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10:07 p.m. Update

Hey all, one more update for tonight... The Big 12's official website now has confirmed this situation and it also has released a story with quotes and comments from several people around the league.

Thought the feel-good piece might be enjoyable for some of you to read.

Also, I'd just like to say thanks to everyone who posted something kind about my efforts here. I can't say how much hearing such nice things means to me and I am thrilled that you found our site and what I could offer so helpful. Thanks to all of you for your help with this blog, as well as your support and continued patronage of KUsports.com. There's more good stuff where this came from!!!

More to come tomorrow, as we expect to hear from KU and we'll also check in with the Big 12 and UT press conferences. There will be more, but at least we all won't be going crazy.

Good night!

7:28 p.m. Update:

KU associate athletic director Jim Marchiony said moments ago that Kansas would wait until Tuesday to comment on the matter.

Marchiony said KU wanted to wait until Texas and the Big 12 held their Tuesday news conferences before commenting.

Texas has a news conference scheduled for 10 a.m. Tuesday. No official word yet on a time for the Big 12's news conference.

But again, UT has confirmed on its official website that it will remain in the Big 12.

6:53 p.m. Update:

Pac-10 confirms things... That's a wrap!!!

Commissioner Larry Scott: “University of Texas President Bill Powers has informed us that the 10 remaining schools in the Big 12 Conference intend to stay together. We are excited about the future of the Pac-10 Conference and we will continue to evaluate future expansion opportunities under the guidelines previously set forth by our Presidents and Chancellors.”

6:25 p.m. Update

The following is from the UT official site:

AUSTIN, Texas — The University of Texas' athletics programs will continue competing in the Big 12 Conference, the university announced today.

University President William Powers Jr., Men's Athletics Director DeLoss Dodds and Women's Athletics Director Chris Plonsky will participate in a news conference at 10 a.m. Central, Tuesday, June 15.

My take: Holy cow. This thing may be over.

6:06 p.m. Update:

Things are definitely looking more and more solid by the minute for the survival of the Big 12 Conference.

Chris Dufresne, of the L.A. Times, has posted on his Twitter account that the Pac-10's new plan is to stop expansion at 12 teams. Colorado became the 11th and Dufresne indicates the Pac-10 will target Utah, of the Mountain West, as its 12th.

Plus, just after 5:30 p.m., Dufresne Tweeted the following: "It's over: Larry Scott just confirmed to me Texas has declined offer to joine [sic] Pac-10. he's back in the Bay Area....statement coming soon."

I put a call into the Pac-10 offices a few minutes ago and am waiting for a call back. Hoping to get Scott or deputy commissioner (and former Big 12 chief) Kevin Wieberg.

More to come.

5:33 p.m. Update:

Dallas Morning News reporting what many already have.... The Big 12 appears to be saved and the conference will move forward with the 10 remaining teams. This report indicates more firmly, that Texas A&M — rumored to be flirting with the SEC — is on board.

More to come. Hopefully we'll hear something from KU officials soon, although they've said all along that they will not comment on rumors.

5:30 p.m. Update:

Less than 30 minutes after a report emerged about the Big 12 possibly being interested in Air Force and BYU as replacement schools for Colorado and Nebraska, an Austin radio station (where the report first surfaced) has retracted that information, saying that someone hacked their accounts to post the erroneous info.

And I thought this saga had it all. It seems that now it may.

More to come.

4:56 p.m. Update:

Note: This could be a couple of schools pushing an agenda, or it could be credible. But reports are starting to surface that BYU and Air Force, both of the Mountain West, are being mentioned as possible replacements for Colorado and Nebraska.

We're working hard to track this down and have calls out to the Mountain West.

Stay tuned.

4:39 p.m. Update:

ESPN is now reporting that the numbers for a reworked television deal for Texas, should it choose to remain in the Big 12, could now reach the $20 to $25 million range.

Some of that would include revenue from a potential Longhorn Network, which UT has been dying to start for some time. But the rest of it comes from a revamped contract for the conference, which maintains that it could actually have more value as 10 teams — minus Colorado (Pac-10) and Nebraska (Big Ten) — than as 12.

The report indicates that a deal is, "in the works," and it's my belief that you're not working on television deals unless you have a conference to reap its benefits.

More to come.

3:27 p.m. Update:

No one within the KU athletic department is saying anything yet but the Kansas Board of Regents has released a statement.

Journal-World reporter Scott Rothschild posted this story with quotes from Jill Docking, the chair of the regents, moments ago.

More to come.

3:13 p.m. Update:

ESPN is finally on board. After going with the headline: "Texas leaning towards Pac-10" all afternoon, the worldwide leader in sports has changed its headline to "Texas leaning toward 10-school Big 12."

What's more, USA Today is reporting that Texas seems likely to stay in the Big 12 and that the most pressing question facing the conference's survival now is what Texas A&M will do.

Will the Aggies go to the SEC or stick with the Big 12? Sources indicated to the Journal-World late last week that an official within one Big 12 school believed that A&M would head to the SEC. However, Gene Stallings, a member of the Texas A&M board of regents, told The Associate Press on Monday that the Big 12 staying together would, "tickle me to death."

And Stallings, who won a national title as the football coach at Alabama, has been a staunch supporter of the SEC throughout this mess.

A&M may still be a key player in all of this, but multiple sources have told me in the last week that the Big 12 (as 10) could move forward without A&M and that the conference would be fine.

That said, I do think that keeping A&M in the fold is the desired outcome.

More to come.

2:34 p.m. Update:

Oh, hey, one more thing... You know that flight we were all tracking feverishly last night? It appears the same plane departed from Austin today and was headed to California. It's not known if the Pac-10 officials were on it or not, nor would it be wise to conclude anything based on a flight schedule, as we learned the hard way.

That said, it's entirely possible that the flight could've gone from Texas to Cali because the Pac-10 could not convince Texas to join and therefore there was no need for Pac-10 commissioner Larry Scott to come to Kansas.

More to come.

2:30 p.m. Update:

Chip Brown, of Orangebloods.com, has changed the headline of his main story yet again. The headline now reads, "Back to life... Big 12" - One can only assume that that means things continue to look good for the Big 12.

As the report has said all along, an announcement out of Texas could come as soon as today.

Of course... It could still not come at all.

Stay tuned.

1:03 p.m. Update

Check out the latest Twitter updates from Pete Thamel, of the New York Times:

  1. Big 12 AD confirms to the NY Times that Texas is on cusp of committing to Big 12. He said, "The musical chairs will stop."

  2. Just got Dan Beebe on the phone very quickly. When asked if things look good, he said, "We'll keep going." Said he couldn't talk anymore.

Working like crazy to get more info on this. Stay tuned.

12:24 p.m. Update:

Here's the latest in the ongoing saga between Chip Brown of Orangebloods.com and ESPN reporter Joe Schad, both of whom, as it seems, have softened their stances a little bit to end up basically where we are with our story in today's paper.

Brown initially indicated that UT was staying in the Big 12. He's since backtracked a little and now is claiming that UT is open to exploring that option. His latest message board update, posted at 12:24 p.m. CDT, is titled: "UT ready to commit to remodeled Big 12."

Still trying to get word on what exactly that says so stay tuned.

As for ESPN, Schad reported earlier today that Texas' move to the Pac-10 was imminent. He since has gone on ESPN radio and backed down from that report all the way to the point of actually reporting what Brown is saying at Orangebloods. Of course, just moments ago, he was on ESPN News saying he still believes the Pac-10 departure will happen.

Interesting developments to be sure. Still feeling good about our report of the Big 12 staying together. Still working the phones to see what we can find out.

More to come.

10:18 a.m. Update:

The Orange County Register has learned that Pac-10 officials will meet with KU tonight at an undisclosed location.

The meeting comes as no surprise in the wake of Sunday's rumors that Pac-10 commissioner Larry Scott was en route to Kansas City. His plane never landed at KCI, but that doesn't mean he didn't get to the area somehow, somewhere.

Sources told me late Sunday night that KU's meeting with the Pac-10 was going down but that it was a back-up plan for KU, as it was looking more and more like the Big 12 may stay together.

Conflicting reports on the matter have emerged today, with Orangebloods.com reporting that Texas is staying and ESPN's Joe Schad reporting that a move to the Pac-10 is imminent.

On Sunday, KU officials would not confirm that any meeting of any kind was scheduled to take place on Monday.

More to come.

9:39 a.m. Update:

ESPN just posted a story that indicates that Texas to the Pac-10 seems likely and that Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State would follow.

The report quotes a source as saying Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe's plan has "zero" chance of working.

That's in contrast to what we reported late Sunday night and what Chip Brown, of Orangebloods.com reported early Monday morning.

Here's the link to the latest ESPN story.

Stay tuned as this thing is now more out of control than ever.

8:58 a.m. Update:

Chip Brown, of Orangebloods.com, just posted a story citing sources that say Texas is committed to moving forward with a 10-member Big 12 conference.

According to Brown's report, posted early Monday morning, "Sources say Texas is considering a plan by Dan Beebe to hold the Big 12 together with 10 teams. UT officials are expected to announce their decision to remain in the Big 12 as early as Monday."

This news supports the report from a source close to the situation, who told the Journal-World late Sunday night that it looked as if the Big 12 would stay together and that Oklahoma would shift to the North Division.

8:47 a.m. Update:

The Associated Press is reporting that Missouri, the school that some believe started this mess in the first place with its longing for the Big Ten, is pledging its loyalty to the Big 12 Conference.

The latest report out of Columbia quoted Missouri chancellor Brady Deaton as saying via email that MU "will do everything possible to assure the success of the conference."

Missouri officials met around 8 p.m. Sunday night to discuss their options and Deaton briefly met with the media following the meeting.

"We have been a proud member of the Big Six, Big Seven and Big Eight, and we continue to take great pride in the accomplishments of the Big 12," Deaton wrote, according to the AP. "Our position as a member for more than 100 years gives us a great appreciation for the tremendous value of our conference and a vital stake in its future."

More to come.

8:14 a.m. Update:

What began as a lazy Sunday turned into a wild night, with trips to both Kansas City International airport (around 10 p.m.) and the Lawrence Municipal Airport (at 12:45).

The reason? Reports out of Texas indicated that Pac-10 commissioner Larry Scott was headed, via private plane, to Kansas City to meet with KU officials.

The news seemed to make plenty of sense considering the fact that Sunday evening reports surfaced that Texas A&M had turned down an invitation to join the Pac-10, thus leaving KU as the conference's likely replacement. Those reports were quickly shot down by at least one Texas A&M university spokesperson and the guessing game continued.

About a dozen reporters stalked the waiting area at KCI's smallest terminal but Scott never showed up. We're still unsure if his plane was diverted elsewhere or if he even took off at all.

While we waited, the Journal-World learned that the newest most likely scenario was that the Big 12 would be saved and that the Pac-10 meetings were simply a back-up plan, just in case things changed. In this thing, it seems wise to have at least one back-up plan, perhaps even two or three.

Sources told me late Sunday night that the Big 12 appears closer to a agreement to move forward with the 10 members that remain and, if it in fact did, Oklahoma would shift to the North division, therein opening up the possibility of OU and Texas meeting each year in the conference's football championship.

The source was unsure if the league would move ahead with 10 or 12 teams — perhaps adding two to replace Colorado and Nebraska — and that's where we stand today.

Should be another wild day, as officials from all of the Big 12 institutions likely will be meeting individually and perhaps together to take the next step in this process.

Stay tuned to KUsports.com throughout the day for the latest as it occurs.


KEITHMILES05 7 years, 7 months ago

There needs to be HUGE penalities for any team who wishes to leave if/when this new Big 10 forms.

Missouri and their sucking ways almost destroyed the conference and in fact until it is a done deal they were the deciding factor.

Ricky_Vaughn 7 years, 7 months ago

I think it's more appropriate to say that the Big 10 started all of this. They played Mizzou like a fiddle!

That being said, I still agree with the need for steepened penalties for the next time this happens.

RogueThrill 7 years, 7 months ago

This is a load of crap. Now that it looks like A&M is going to the SEC Texas jumps out in front of the announcement and says we would like to stay so they don't look like conference crashers. This is at best a solution until 2016.

yourworstnightmare 7 years, 7 months ago

NU and CU should be glad they are gone, even if the Big 12 survives.

If the Big 12 holds, Texas will have been given even more concessions and will have a tighter stranglehold on the operations and finances of the conference.

Also, who wants to be inn a conference that was nearly dissolved because of the greed and vanity of one of its members (Texas).

The leaders at the other schools are fools if they think Texas will change and be magnanimous. If the Big 12 holds, I give it five years tops.

Eddie Muñoz 7 years, 7 months ago

It's not just Texas showing their greed, though - this was all started by Nebraska's greed.

yourworstnightmare 7 years, 7 months ago

I beg to differ. Nebraska has long been chafed by the concessions Texas was given when the Big 12 was formed, including a greater share of TV revenue and refusal to commit to a Big 12 network. They were also the lone voice against the Big 12 championship game moving to Texas on a semi-permanent basis. They wanted an alternating North-South location.

NU wanted to be in a conference with more equity in terms of TV revenue and conference leadership. They were acting i their own self interest, and remaining associated with Texas was not an option.

If KU gets an offer from the Pac 10, they should take it. remaining in a 10-team Big 12 dominated by Texas is not a good option.

Steve Jacob 7 years, 7 months ago

I am hoping the Big 12 stays alive just long enough for Nebraska to write the $20M check. Anyway, if Texas stays and the 10 are left, I will credit the little five schools of getting together and sweetening the pot for Texas, knowing it was better then splitting up and going to weaker conferences.

Kevin Sontag 7 years, 7 months ago


UT, Tech, OU, OKST: Departure to Pac10 is now imminent. So much for saving the Big 12/10.

Lawkan 7 years, 7 months ago

They would have to add 2 more teams. With 10 you can not have a championship game and there would be no reason to have 2 divisions as you would play everybody every season in football and basketball.

more_cowbell 7 years, 7 months ago

"Sources told me late Sunday night that the Big 12 appears closer to a agreement to move forward with the 10 members that remain and, if it in fact did, Oklahoma would shift to the North division, therein opening up the possibility of OU and Texas meeting each year in the conference's football championship."

I had the same reaction, Lawkan. With 10 teams, Oklahoma doesn't move to the North because there IS no North any longer. The NCAA rule still applies: need 12 teams for a championship game.

But given the fact that about half the time the championship game has knocked the Big 12 contender OUT of the national title game? Good riddance.

Oh, and work out a trade with the Big Ten for its name. Otherwise I'm going to laugh everytime I hear the names "Big Ten" or "Big Twelve" from this point forward... X-D

Big5 7 years, 7 months ago

Has anybody heard whether or not KU is considering hiring Richard Billings as its new AD? Richard bleeds crimson and blue and has what it takes to restore the Big 12 to its glory days. Hope he's not swooped up by another conference.

dubujg 7 years, 7 months ago

Have no info on Billings but am wondering if there is any truth to the rumor that Lew (the Spew) is leaving early to star in the upcoming remake of THE HILLS HAVE EYES?

anonyname 7 years, 7 months ago

Not sure if you're referring to the AD position or the Big ex-12. As far as the AD, I'm confident Gray-Little will find the right person. If you're referring to the league situation, the sad truth is that KU is just a passenger along for the ride. Unless she can find a way to guarantee that other schools will get the revenue they are seeking, without a high-level football program or a well-populated state, KU is in no position to call their own shot.

riverdrifter 7 years, 7 months ago

Up this bailing wire conference. If the Pac 10 offers, take it. This proposed conference wouldn't be built to stand the test of time any more than the previous one. Look west & don't look back.

yourworstnightmare 7 years, 7 months ago

If KU gets an offer from the Pac 10, they should take it. Remaining in a 10-team Big 12 dominated by Texas is not a good option.

Big5 7 years, 7 months ago

Just talked to a friend who has heard from Richard Billings. He believes Billings can not only save the Big 12, but that he has enough contacts personally to fill up the gridiron club. We've got to get this guy hired before the Pac-10 or Nebraska does.

Kevin Randell 7 years, 7 months ago

Can we please please please change that picture up at the top. Colorado and Nebraska should no longer be in that picture....

RogueThrill 7 years, 7 months ago

The Big XII will not survive until the end of the week.

RogueThrill 7 years, 7 months ago

You're going to see it the quickest on the Phog. But beware, Chip Brown has changed his story so many times that it's impossible to say if he actually has sources or if he is just using the shotgun method of getting the scoop.

Big5 7 years, 7 months ago

Perhaps Texas has swooped up Richard Billings to take over their school or maybe the Pac 10 has taken him?

mdrndgtl 7 years, 7 months ago

I've heard some pretty obscene things about Richard Billings and his personal life. KU doesn't need that press now.

mdrndgtl 7 years, 7 months ago

I've heard some pretty obscene things about Richard Billings and his personal life. KU doesn't need that press now.

RogueThrill 7 years, 7 months ago

The best part is that this Big5 guy signed up on the 10th and has made 7 posts and get which proper nouns are in each of his posts?

LogicMan 7 years, 7 months ago

That PAC-10 plane is scheduled to go to great San Francisco:


With or without the PAC-10 people? Don't know.

CreatureComforts 7 years, 7 months ago

That thing bounced around Oklahoma and Texas like a pinball yesterday!

Freestater456 7 years, 7 months ago

Check out chip browns Twitter just search "chip brown twitter" on google. You don't have to make a twitter account or anything!

Big5 7 years, 7 months ago

You're just jealous bc Billings will get his share (and yours) of looks from the women around here too. He's built like a brick you know what as he used to be quite the fullback.

Shardwurm 7 years, 7 months ago

Not sure anyone would have noticed Colorado leaving if they hadn't announced it.

bwilson 7 years, 7 months ago

There are a good number of KU fans in western Kansas who found it more convenient to go to the away game in Boulder than drive to Lawrence. Cheaper, too. They, at least, are pretty disappointed.

mdrndgtl 7 years, 7 months ago

You know what I'm referring to when I speak of Billings' behavior. You and I both know it doesn't need to come to light. Let's just leave it at he's not quite the man for the job.

LogicMan 7 years, 7 months ago

"Not sure anyone would have noticed Colorado leaving"

I'd bet that CU BB folk are hoping KU doesn't go to the PAC-16!

ruffemupbuffs 7 years, 7 months ago

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lithium45 7 years, 7 months ago

Looks like Nebraska and Colorado may have to pay up = nice bonus for the remaining teams. i wonder if Colorado can even afford the buyout? Plus the Big 12 Lite gets rid of the weakest basketball teams in the conference. More money for everyone, rivalries stay in the conference, athletes will travel much less and not having to watch games in the Pacific Time Zone. Whoot! Sure hope this works out for the Big 12.

Kevin Randell 7 years, 7 months ago

Hey, check out the latest post on ESPN. It lists the latest TV contracts for the conferences. The Big XII's runs about 98 million and the Pac-10 is like 78 million. So........why is there even a discussion of realingment? But looking at the Big 10's 200+ million contract...I can see why Nebraska bolted.

Ricky_Vaughn 7 years, 7 months ago

It has to do with the way the money gets split. It's my understanding that the Big 10 and PAC 10 evenly distribute their revenue, unlike the Big 12 which gives bigger pieces of the pie to those who are more successful.

Anyway you slice it (ha!), everyone left in the Big 12 will now get increased revenue. X/10 is bigger than X/12 no matter what X is.

Methinks Texas was just playing along to get other teams to leave...now they get their increase in revenue without going anywhere.

yourworstnightmare 7 years, 7 months ago

Could be. In any case, CU and NU will be much better off in the long run by not being associated with a conference that includes Texas.

jaywalker 7 years, 7 months ago

Nope. Texas was entertaining the offer because they - and any institution that cares about academics along with the football revenues on the side - would be stupid not to entertain an offer to be included in the research monies generated by the likes of Cal/Stanford/UCLA/UW/UO. The overwhelming majority of schools have to foot some of the bill for their AD's and are always looking for ways to not have to so that money goes to research and faculty. Every school in the Big 12 just got closer to that goal because UT stayed. They'll get a bigger piece of the pie because they deserve it.

yourworstnightmare 7 years, 7 months ago

Yes, and non-Texas members will continue to get an ever-dwindling share of that pie. At least in the Pac 10 Colorado will get an equal share. In the Big 10, NU will get and equal and bigger share.

Texas was a bully in the Southwest conference and destroyed it. If the Big 12 survives, it will be just a matter of time before Texas demands more and destroys the conference. My advice to KU is to get out while you can.

Mary Sucha 7 years, 7 months ago

The remaining Big 12 schools -

UT - Austin UT - Lawrence UT - Columbia UT - Norman UT - Stillwater UT - Manhattan UT - Lubbock UT - Ames UT - College Station UT - Waco

And, you all get to go through this again in a few years.

yourworstnightmare 7 years, 7 months ago

Yep. Just about right. The Big Texas conference might just survive.

This would be great for Texas schools, but would be very bad for KU, KSU, MU, and ISU.

Daniel Kennamore 7 years, 7 months ago

I'm failing to see how doubling their current revenue would be 'very bad' for those schools.

bill_the_kat 7 years, 7 months ago

Take BYU and Air Force, two schools Cal would never let into the Pac-10.

bill_the_kat 7 years, 7 months ago

Forgot to say the God and Guns expansion.

fan4kufootball 7 years, 7 months ago

I hope we do accept invite two schools in to replace CU and NU and I think Arkansas should be one of them.

LogicMan 7 years, 7 months ago

"Colorado made a huge mistake."

Have they officially signed the contract with the PAC-10 yet? Our commissioner should ask their AD directly, and if not, offer to welcome CU back without retribution. Their move was understandable given the situation at the time. Thing$ are looking up now.

Raider 7 years, 7 months ago

This is the absolute worst thing that could happen. Tech, OU and OSU... all wanted to go to the Pac-10. Aggies screwed the whole thing up by talking to the SEC, which in turn gave Beebe time to come up with his mythical TV package. The North Division schools that remain will obviously agree to anything UT wants b/c they had no other options for landing in a decent conference. So... they caved to Beebe and UT; which in turn screwed the South Division schools (except UT and Aggie) by letting UT have anything they want in order to stay. Without Nebraska, the North is worthless in football. How in the world does Beebe think he will get a TV deal worth any more than what we have now?

Hopefully Tech and OSU will still accept the invites offered by the Pac-10. Both schools still have BOR meetings planned for tomorrow. The Big 12 needs to just disband and let everyone go their separate ways.

jaywalker 7 years, 7 months ago

" How in the world does Beebe think he will get a TV deal worth any more than what we have now?"

Umm.....'cuz he's already got one? Still waiting for you to post something worthwhile, Raider.

Raider 7 years, 7 months ago


Here you go Jaywalker. Maybe something a little more substantial for you. Beebe in the teleconference today admits he doesn't have a TV deal, just the "promise" of one. Basically a handshake deal with UT and the networks. If you can find something where Beebe says he has an actual contract with the networks then please post it and I will apologize to you. But right now, we have a promise. I hope that the league can be viable, but I'm also leary that's it's a bunch of smoke and mirrors.

Also, check out the Katz blog on ESPN where he says the Big 10, SEC, BCS and remaining B12 AD's panicked at the aggressive moves of the Pac 10 and did whatever they could to keep the B12 alive.

There's way more to this story.

Majestic42 7 years, 7 months ago

THIS JUST IN: No one cares. Goodness, I've never seen such a self-indulgent shoutfest. It's a bunch of whiny sports teams wanting more money, responded to by a bunch of people that only ever watch ESPN and think that counts as being caught up on current events. Grow up, stop living in your fantasy world that sports actually matter, and consider the fact that the schools nearby are just that: Schools. You know, where people learn. And go to class. And where perhaps they might happen to maybe have a sports team, but that's still classified as EXTRA-curricular.

jaywalker 7 years, 7 months ago

this just in: You hate sports and the people who enjoy them. Gooood for you. Now go back to your fantasy world and quit pretending you actually have an opinion on this matter.

Majestic42 7 years, 7 months ago

Nice job trying to rebut me with the opening line. Didn't work out so well for you, though. Also, for the record, I don't hate sports, or the people who enjoy them. I think that our American society places far too much importance on them, and our efforts would be better spent elsewhere rather than pondering statistics of various players or what conference is going where.

Mandie Eutsler 7 years, 7 months ago

Sports are an example of evolution at it's finest. Humans are no longer in caveman competition for food, mates, and housing. We take out our caveman instincts on the field. Sports are very necessary for our society and we love it. Go comment on another story. If you don't care, why are you here?

Majestic42 7 years, 7 months ago

Yes, I can tell that we are indeed very evolved people. Especially those of us that can spell "weirdo."

jaywalker 7 years, 7 months ago

Sorry, majestic, but sure you do. There's no other reason to post such drivel otherwise. Sports is a diversion. I'm sure you have such in your life, everyone does or we'd all go mad. Sports isn't yours - that's not a problem. There's too much sadness and divisiveness in the news today. Sports is an excellent outlet for billions (that's with a big freakin' B) around the world. If this isn't a big deal for you... cool. But don't believe for a second that you're holier than any thou because you'd prefer to focus your down-time on something else.

jhawks1234 7 years, 7 months ago

These "Extra-curricular" activities bring millions of dollars to these schools each year and are very important to the progression of the Universities and the community. Businesses in college towns love game days because thousands of people flock to their towns and spend money at the local businesses... So yes we care

Uhjh 7 years, 7 months ago

There is no North South everyone plays in football and twice in basketball. I welcome the competition and while I am not that enamored with TU the 10 number is a good fit for people who just like the sport. Anyone who is scared by too much for the North just wants glory and not real teams.

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motivatortom 7 years, 7 months ago

Without Nebraska, this conference is not viable in football and therefore it will NOT survive. In 2 years (or maybe even before) Texas will go through this same thing again and will absolutely be gone. Absolutely. They have many more options that are much more attractive than the current Big 12 (or whatever it's now called). Culturally they fit the Big 10. The SEC has great football rivalries but few academic institutions that can match Texas or the Big 10 schools. Texas matches up there as well. When the Big 10 expands again in 18 months or so ... Texas is gone.

The best thing Kansas can do now is try to plot its own future ... take care of itself. They do not fit the Big 10 but might fit the Pac 10. That's where they should look. The Big 10 will likely never take Missouri. It's not exactly zero chance ... but a very, very small chance.

labmonkey 7 years, 7 months ago

The Big XII should try to lure Arkansas and Notre Dame when Notre Dame's NBC contract expires.

Uhjh 7 years, 7 months ago

I doubt Nebraska will ever return the glory days. I just glad they’re gone. TU and OU are very viable and the conference will thrive. I doubt Nebraksa will ever return the glory days. I just glad thier gone. :>)

John_Brown 7 years, 7 months ago

Let's get on w/ rebuilding this conference w/out all the confrontation between Dr Tom/the Erkels in Columbia and UT. We need a nice, midwestern style to nudge UT where we want em. The nice, lady Chancellor backed by a backstabbing Sweet Lew is the team for the job. And we need some allies. The future is in the west. When the Big 12 formed in 1996, Utah had 1.7 million folks and Colorado 3.2 million. Now, Utah has 2.8 million and Colorado 5 million. If trends continue, they'll be the size of Indiana/Ohio in 15 more years. If your game is teevee sets, you need to hitch your wagon to the fastest horse. Dumping Nebraska for Utah is a no-brainer and we need to hold on to the Denver market. Rebuild this conference w/ BYU and Colorado State or Air Force. My preference would be the AFA if they want it. Besides the teevee sets, neo-con BYU/AirForce/aTm would be a nice counterweight to ultralibs in Austin. Plus, Baptists vs Mormons would be dam fun.

To he!! w/ Ar-kansas. They patsies when it comes to UT.

truman 7 years, 7 months ago

Arkansas will not join the Big 12 as long as Texas is a member. They left the Southwestern conference years ago to get away from Texas.

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