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Should Kansas residents be allowed to carry loaded handguns in a vehicle without a concealed carry permit?

Asked at Massachusetts Street on February 13, 2014

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“No.”

— Stan Weil, chemical operator, Lawrence

Photo of Becky Cheek-King

“No, absolutely not.”

— Becky Cheek-King, psychotherapist, Lawrence

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“Yes.”

— Rudy Shulz, disabled, Lawrence

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“If it’s not conealed (in the car), I don’t see why they need concealed carry.”

— Kelsie Holloway, software developer, Seattle, Wash.

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James Sneegas 3 weeks, 2 days ago

YES...........................

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Mike Edson 3 weeks, 2 days ago

We will anyway.

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Dustyn Polk 2 weeks, 1 day ago

Do you realize just how scary those three words are?

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Wayne James 3 weeks, 2 days ago

Why does every one feel the need to carry a firearm with them at all times?? Have we all reverted back to the 19th century?? What are you so afraid of???????
Perhaps you are all "yellow bellies", so afraid of everyone and everything that you are willing to die for that precious gun! I'll bet those who relish the idea of carrying gun on their hip would not be able to use it in an actual emergency situation & wouldn't be able to properly aim & fire it if their own lives depended on it.

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Bob Smith 3 weeks, 1 day ago

Bran, Wayne. Get more bran in your diet.

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John Middleton 3 weeks, 1 day ago

"Why does every one feel the need to carry a firearm with them at all times??"

I can't speak for everyone, but until you can tell me exactly when and where the next violent attack will occur in Lawrence, I will always be prepared to defend my own life and the lives of my family/friends. If you could give me that information, I could simply avoid that location at that time, but since you can't, I will be as prepared as I can be.

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Brett McCabe 3 weeks, 1 day ago

Wayne, you are exactly right. People who need to carry guns with them have major inferiority complexes. I was listening to a story where a guy in Florida shot and killed a 17-year old who was unarmed because the man thought that the kid was being too aggressive. Knowing when to pull out and use a gun requires good judgement. Cops and soldiers get constant training on this.

The fact that someone wants to carry a loaded gun in the car shows that they don't have good judgement. Bad things will ensue because you will have a bunch of weirdos carrying loaded weapons.

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John Middleton 3 weeks ago

"The fact that someone wants to carry a loaded gun in the car shows that they don't have good judgement."

Too bad the driver of this car didn't have a loaded weapon with him... He might have avoided being dragged from his car and beaten senseless in front of his wife and child. But then, this was in NY...

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/biker-gang-attacks-driver-accident-caught-tape-20429199

The guy in Wisconsin, with a CCP, was luckier...

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/road-rage-caught-tape-victim-turns-tables-alleged-17902950

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Scott Burkhart 3 weeks ago

@ Wayne James, You ask what am I so afraid of????????

Nothing.

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John Middleton 3 weeks ago

Like the one about the guy who was in a police check lane when the officer approached his car. "Officer," he says, "I have a CCP and I have a 9mm holstered on my belt." "OK," says the police officer. "I also have a .45 in the glove box and another one under my seat," the driver says. "Ahh..." says the officer. "Well, sir, I also have an AR mounted behind my seat and a 12-guage in the trunk," he continues. "Sir," the officer says, "just what exactly are you afraid of?" "Not a thing," the driver says, "not a thing!"

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Thom Clark 3 weeks ago

You need to get a grip. I carry. I am also a Retired Army MP and a former Corrections Officer. Guaranteed I will be able to use it when needed. And won't need more than 1 round to accomplish what is needed. Just because YOU are Scared of inanimate objects carried by law abiding and responsible citizens, doesn't mean everyone else has to share your psychosis.

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Dustyn Polk 3 weeks ago

Funny you should use the word 'psychosis'. Isn't it odd how the N.R.A. campaigned against a law that would have required a datalog of all mental health patients in this nation that shouldn't be allowed to have firearms, saying how it was just a ruse to "take your guns"?

Isn't it funny that if you read through that law, cover to cover, there was no mention, or even a veiled hint, of any call to surrender any firearm owned in this nation? But no, scare tactics and false propaganda was spread like so much butter on a piece of toast.

Yeah, I can say that with complete conviction because I read that law, as it was proposed and the final version that was voted upon, cover to cover and found no reason to believe that there would have been any recall of any firearm legally owned before the date of it's inception. It just prevented a select list of models from being manufactured after a given date.

Yep, they sure are out to get your guns...

By the by, how's your mental health? Other than your declaration that it is in decent enough condition, do you have any further proof, say the evaluation of someone that has actually received a degree in mental health evaluation? Somehow I am doubting that answer will be yes, although without actual proof, even saying you have will be only so many more words in the digital world.

Your bullets aren't digital.

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Rick Johnson 3 weeks, 2 days ago

Yes..............

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Elston Gunn 3 weeks, 2 days ago

I agree with Wayne, in a reticent yet irreverent sort of way.

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James Howlette 3 weeks, 1 day ago

Ok, so we already have CC laws. I know several people who got one just so they could carry their guns to the range in their backpacks. They're not that hard to obtain.

Why do we need to allow people to carry around loaded handguns in their car if they haven't gone through the steps to get a CC permit? What purpose does this whole thing solve? The lazy target shooter's desire not to unload his or her gun before driving home?

I'm not being snarky. I don't know why this is necessary.

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Bob Smith 3 weeks, 1 day ago

In other firearms-related news: "We recently discussed the decision by the Los Angeles district attorney not to charge officers who shot up a vehicle of an innocent man because they were acting in “an atmosphere of fear and extreme anticipation.”Officers were on edge in the search for cop-killer Christopher Dorner. We now have a decision in the shooting that proceeded the McGee case where eight Los Angeles police officers fired over 100 times. Margie Carranza, then 47, was cut by flying glass while her then 71-year-old mother, Emma Hernandez was shot in the back. You guessed it. No one will be fired or even suspended. Let’s recap what these officers did and will now only be required to take a little more training. Police were searching for Dorner. Two women happened by the police delivering newspapers in a blue Toyota Tacoma pickup truck. (Dorner was driving a charcoal Nissan Titan pickup truck). Without clear identification and without any appearance of a weapon, the police fired 103 times at the truck. A Commission has now completed its investigation of the officers and found that the officers were not at serious fault in trying to kill two innocent unarmed women and unleashing a wall of lead on a vehicle..." http://jonathanturley.org/2014/02/12/eight-police-officers-fire-103-times-at-two-unarmed-women-delivering-newspapers-commission-rejects-calls-for-any-officer-to-be-fired-or-even-suspended/

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Leslie Swearingen 3 weeks, 1 day ago

It seems to me that people, police and civilians alike, are becoming more and more emotionally fragile and thus more likely to become violent at any provocation no matter how small.

Thus the world will end not with a bang or a whimper but with a scream of rage.

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Thom Clark 3 weeks ago

CHUCKLES So let's disarm them and allow them to be run to ground by those who still have weapons. Which is really what Gun Control is all about.

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Munchma Quchi 3 weeks, 1 day ago

Kentucky allows this, and it has proven to be neither the apocalyptic nightmare that anti-gun activists would envision, nor has it proven to be the ultimate crime deterrent that the pro-gun activists would envision. Do what you will, Kansas, it will matter not.

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Jim Phillips 3 weeks, 1 day ago

Hot news, people! Kansas has allowed the transporting of weapons in cars for years. Kansas does not require the gun be locked or out of the reach of any passenger, as long as the weapon is not concealed on your person proper unless you are in possession of a concealed carry permit. You would probably be surprised at the number of cars with firearms in them you pass everyday and the overwhelming majority of those evil, scary guns have never been used in a crime or to scare the poopoo out of anyone.

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M. Lindeman 3 weeks, 1 day ago

Yes and no Jim, Yes you can transport your weapon in your vehicle but right now Kansas requires it to be unloaded and the ammo locked up.

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Bob Smith 3 weeks, 1 day ago

The 9th Circuit Court ruled today that the 2nd Amendment establishes a right to carry arms. Let freedom ring! (Yes, there will be appeals from now until the heat death of the universe. It's still encouraging to see a federal court come down on the side of the people once in a while.)

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Dustyn Polk 3 weeks ago

Yeah....

I suppose pointing out that the First Amendment has been altered multiple times, and no one seems to be irritated in the least, but the instant someone mentions that maybe you don't need an AK-47 to defend your house, they have somehow committed blasphemy and should be burned at the stake.

I suppose it's pointless to point out that when those words were first put to paper, the concept of a multiple round firearm was at best a wild dream. Do you even bother to contemplate how many rifles and flintlock pistols it would take to reenact Aurora? Sandy Hook? Jonesboro? Columbine?

Mental health wasn't exactly considered real at that point and time, and instead was frequently considered to be demonic possession.

Out of the entire Bill of Rights, only the Second Amendment has fewer than 6 legal alterations to it's meaning or definition. Five whole court cases. Well over 200 years and only 5 cases? I wonder what that number is for the First Amendment? The Fourth Amendment? The Fifth?

Nope. No gun worship in this country...

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Bob Smith 2 weeks, 6 days ago

Firearms are inanimate objects. If you want to discuss worship, how's about the adoring attitude of the MSM towards the current resident of 1600 Penn. Ave?

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Dustyn Polk 2 weeks, 1 day ago

I have no clue what 'MSM' means, and I have no desire to hazard a guess. Until I know what you are actually talking about without using concept terms that, for all I know, are made up in your head, there is no way to truly respond.

But, curiously enough, you write all of 4 words about firearms, but rant about what I am assuming is the current occupant of the White House.

Funny how he doesn't actually write, or vote, on any laws, but he, whomever it is, certainly does take an inordinate amount of blame for things he has absolutely no say over...

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Mike Ford 2 weeks, 6 days ago

when one does not comprehend the wrong of their actions nor do they care they rationalize situations like children. example......I've voted for supply side economics, evangelical judgement, racial and gender exclusion, financial hoarding and inequity and I refuse to accept that my vote is running this country into the ground. As long as my excuse of a political party holds state and some federal power I will advocate for the last vestige of denial enforcement I have....over arming myself in fits of delusional paranoia. You can't tell me anything based in reality....I'm armed to the hilt and I don't care. I think I nailed it.

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Bob Smith 2 weeks, 5 days ago

You forgot your own mantra …. every day I seethe in impotent rage at the infinite sins of the white devils…

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Bob Smith 2 weeks, 3 days ago

In other concealed carry news: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/02/17/growth-chart-of-right-to-carry/

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Larry Sturm 2 weeks ago

You need to have a loaded CC in your car so that if someone cuts you off at a freeway entrance or a stop sign you can shoot them and they won;t do it again.

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Bob Smith 2 weeks ago

We don't all have your impulse-control issues.

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