How interested are you in the presidential election? / LJWorld.com

Asked at Massachusetts Street on September 26, 2012

“ We’re getting pretty into it. We just got in a big fight about it. Just because the choices suck doesn’t mean the outcome is irrelevant.”

— Chris Pankiewicz, student, St. Joseph, Mo.,

“ I’ve been reading a lot about it. But I don’t really care right now because I’m going to move to Belgium.”

— Jacob Meyer, student,, Topeka

“ Honestly not really interested. I find it to be a pageant. I’m going to vote, but they are focusing too much on last-ditch efforts to put the other candidate down. ”

— Ariel Smith, student, Kansas City, Mo.,

“ I’m not interested. It’s Kansas, and voting for a Democrat doesn’t matter. I feel like my vote is pointless. ”

— Amelia Warden, student, Lawrence

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blue73harley 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Very.

But I wonder who will die next on Sons of Anarchy? Can you believe they killed off Opie?!

BTW - it is cool to watch SOA. It is not cool to wear SOA apparel. At least not in public.

Andini 7 months, 3 weeks ago

There's an election coming up??? I had no idea.

Klumma 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Am interested to a point. But more interested in the Congressional elections.

Klumma 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Sons of Anarchy? That show is still on? Not a fan,

Topple 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Liked the first two seasons....3rd was definitely a big step back. Haven't watched it since then.

Liberal 7 months, 3 weeks ago

All of the seasons have been great. Gritty TV.

Klumma 7 months, 3 weeks ago

No more $$ for Belgium. Keep Belgium boyfriend with white sun glass frames until he need more white frame glasses. Kapoot!

Call China when boyfriend cry.

Have a nice day!

RETICENT_IRREVERENT 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Less than some, more than others?

jonas_opines 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Autie and Chris above pretty much gave my response. I'm interested, and I'll argue about it some, but on the whole the choices are poor. But it does provide some interesting study in how we behave as a society, as such evolved ape-ish creatures.

It's very similar, really, to watching a sport contest between bitter rivals, like KU and MU. Team Red and Team Blue. One's good at one sport, one's bad at another, etc., but the dialog between each team's fans seems pretty much the same.

Topple 7 months, 3 weeks ago

I'm ready for 80% of the articles on LJWorld to not be about the latest stupid thing Mitt Romney said.

deec 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Romney is good pals with Monsanto. It'll be just super to have someone who profits from poisoning our food and the planet in the White House.

End sarcasm.

http://www.thenation.com/article/169885/mitt-romney-monsanto-man#

labmonkey 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Babboy doesn't strike me as a vegiterian though, which Henry Rollins is.

msezdsit 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Probably the most important difference between the candidates is the possibility that three supreme court justices could be replaced. Obama likely would appoint justices that would hopefully reverse citizens united, the worst court ruling since Bush v Gore which gave the presidency to george Bush in spite of Gore winning the vote and will of the people. While a Gore presidency probably wouldn't have gone down as a great presidency, he likely would have prevented 911 since he already understood the danger Bin Laden posed and Bush had to be taught how dangerous Bin Laden was. Also, Gore wouldn't have got us into an unfunded illegal war in Iraq. Think how many people would still be alive today just based on that alone. Think what the debt would look like minus the money spent on that unfunded war. Gore simply wouldn't have taken the country to the depths that Bush did. Think of all the disasters Romney will inflict on us and how much better we will be because Obama will bottom out way before Romney will. The republicans have to have war. Romney will have us in war with syria, iran,afganistan, iraq, libya and anywhere else the war hawks can take us.

ThePilgrim 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Your revisionist history doesn't work. Gore won the popular vote but did not win Florida, and thus did not win the Presidential election. No less than the NY Times went and counted the hanging chads and verified that Bush won by less than 1000 votes.

msezdsit 7 months, 3 weeks ago

nope, your wrong . The us supreme court stopped the recount and then ruled that the only way to resolve the election was to recount the votes. Now that they had run the clock out on a recount they ruled it was to late to do the recount because of an arbitrary December 12 date that required the election to be certified by. What the supreme court ruling did was to declare an arbitrary date to be more important the will of the American people thus disenfranchising the American people . The only thing the republican supreme court could do now could do is appoint the republican as president. Fox news wrongly declared Bush the winner in Florida and the rest of the networks didn't want to get beat by Fox so they hurriedly declared Bush the winner without even checking themselves. This is the declaration that Bush would repeat over and over as to why he had won the election.Problem was that Fox was wrong in addition to just wishful thinking and all the other networks were then wrong as well. Any where there was a hanging chad, the voting card was punched and a vote was made. The whole hanging chad had nothing to do with anything except Bush figured he could manufacture an issue out of it that he later exploited. The final recount after the ballots had been violated by being moved and stored so many different times pretty much made a recount impossible and a recount after Bush was already declared president was completely worthless. By the time the recount was complete, Bush had blundered us into the 911 attacks and all the media decided it was not a good time to undermine the president (even though he wasn't elected) while the country needed to reunite and begin recovering from the terrorist attacks. Which, by the way, Bush immediately exploited into a lie about why we should attack Iraq. I'm sure your one of the people who still believes the lies, along with all the other bush lies, that Iraq was involved in the 911 attack. Nevertheless, Gore still won the recount. Without all Gore votes that were manipulated and changed to bush votes, the election wouldn't have been close enough to justify a recount anyway.

You can rewrite history all you want but you can't change the catastrophic disaster Bush was and the fact that we will be suffering from his regime for decades to come. allowing the supreme court to appoint our president resulted in one of the worst presidencies in history and it would be nice to get back to the time honored way of selecting a president. Allowing the Ameican people to vote for a president would have landed us with gore and thus avoided the disaster Bush left us with. If that was all Gore did, our country would be a million times better off than it is.

Liberal 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Yea who knows maybe would all be driving water powered cars that Al Gore invented. And speaking of disasters....How much debt has Obama and the Dems sacked us with? How about gasoline prices. $4.00 a gallon....what about the outrageously expensive grocery items. Oh yeah what about all of the civilians and American citizens that Obama has killed with Drones. Yeah the Muslim world loves bragging about surgical strikes on civilians and gloating about killing Bin Laden. Why did the President LIE about the Embassy murders by Terrorists? All the wrong things are going up Unemployment, prices, welfare and food stamps recipients.

msezdsit 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Get back to me when you can come up with some facts to back up your rant.

Liberal 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Are you saying groceries are not more expensive? Gas? American Citizens have not been killed? That the Muslims love our President bragging about killing Bin Laden? That the President lied about terrorists killing our ambassador. What more facts do you want it is on the nightly news and at my gas pump and grocery store.

Right before your eyes.

msezdsit 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Your parroting fox and making up false scenarios and connecting dots that don't connect and trying to spin it into some sort of twisted pretend reality.

wmathews 7 months, 3 weeks ago

OK, but back to SoA. I was so upset about Opie I may have had bad dreams.

Topple 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Spoiler alert again! After seeing just one comment I'm able to discredit it enough to still be somewhat surprised....now you confirmed it.. :(

CWGOKU 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Election.......... with an "L"................ nah, change it to an "R".............. yep

lindallu 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Because of the electorial vote, the election is over before they even count Kansas votes. So it does seem to matter anyway. Sad, but true.

smitty 7 months, 3 weeks ago

take the opportunity to vote for Roseanne Barr or yourself or the ficus tree or agnes the frog...it's KS lol.

Eddie_Haskell 7 months, 3 weeks ago

He said sex.......

gccs14r 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Obama is a Republican, so it was difficult for the GOP to come up with a suitable challenger who isn't a complete nutcase.

caughtinthemiddle 7 months, 3 weeks ago

And they didn't.

RETICENT_IRREVERENT 7 months, 3 weeks ago

I would be a whole lot more interested in having an election if Kristi Noem involved

Frankie8 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Right now, the election is the most important thing in my life. How could anyone not see that President Obama is the best president we have had in a long while. If the Republicans in Congress were not so biased and intransigent a number of bills would have been passed that would have been of great benefit to the country. I follow all of the political news closely as well as international news as I believe that being informed is a good thing. Two bits,
Four bits
Six bits a dollar
All for Obama,
Stand up and holler,
Are we all fired up?
Are we ready to go?
OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

snap_pop_no_crackle 7 months, 3 weeks ago

I want a piece of the contract for anti-depressives for the disappointed progressives that will go all banana-sandwich after the Mope is sent off the pitch.

beatrice 7 months, 3 weeks ago

From your example, I take it going "all banana-sandwich" after being disappointed lasts at least 4 years.

My guess is, it will last a bit longer.

Frankie8 7 months, 2 weeks ago

So, who are you going to be dancing with as the re-elected President Obama and his beautiful wife Michele dance the night away? Hey, there is a chance of the democrats having a majority! Here we go!! Seriously, dude, you have to stop eating those banana sandwiches, remember what they did to Elvis?

snap_pop_no_crackle 7 months, 3 weeks ago

In another election prediction: " merrill 1 year, 1 month ago The primary is over. Richard Perry is the nominee. That's all there is to it. Kinda like how GW did it. The money and media will focus primarily on Perry. The back door party leadership has spoken." And we all see how that worked out, didn't we?

beatrice 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Very true. Perry's light initially burned brightly, but he turned out to be such a bad candidate that Republicans actually ended up nominating Mitt Romney! Can you imagine?

Glad to know you aren't avoiding making predictions this year. I mean, someone might want to come along and say ... um ... "congratulations." (is it possible to type in a sarcastic tone?)

verity 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Our local elections are extremely important, more than any time I can remember. Don't not vote because your vote in the presidential election won't count.

In the primary in my area, one race was won/lost by seven votes. Your vote does count.

You must be registered by October 15 to vote in the general election. After Jan 1, 2013, registering for the first time will be more difficult.

verity 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Sorry, wrong date. The last day to register for the general election is Tuesday, October 9. You can do it online at www.kdor.org/voterregistration/>

rockchalker52 7 months, 3 weeks ago

I'm very interested in the presidential race. My bottom line: Which candidate is more trustworthy? It ain't the challenger. Don't pick on him, though. "Just stop it. This is hard." (from a source)

I knew Andy & Barny & Goober were gone. Now Opie?!?! Has anybody told Aunt Bea? Oh, wait...

RETICENT_IRREVERENT 7 months, 3 weeks ago

"I can't believe it took four days for some publication to post common sense. I'm not sure who benefited from the Great Bacon Shortage Hoax of the Week of September 24, but I'm certainly glad we can put it to bed no". - T_O_B

Slate Magazine?

The goverment is purchasing pork to buoy the market, but it is just a stop gap measure. While you sheeple have your heads buried in the sand, I will be enjoying fine Amish Yoder Meats bacon while your frying pan is empty.

Kristi Noem 2016

beatrice 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Abso-fricken-lutely! Who isn't?

Of course, this one is all but over, with Mitt Romney having very few (virtually no) electoral college options now that numerous polls show Florida and Ohio tilting toward Obama. It won't be as big a win as he had against McCain, but polls indicate Obama is very likely to win.

So ... HILLARY 2016 !!!

Let the games begin!

somedude20 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Lesser of 2 evils IMHO is Obama but I am leaning towards voting for my genitals

beatrice 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Now that would be nuts.

somedude20 7 months, 3 weeks ago

by somedude20

avarom 7 months, 3 weeks ago

You must be stroking us.

Eddie_Haskell 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Not very. But I don't vote for idiots. I didn't vote for Al Gore or John Kerry or John McCain and I sure has hell wouldn't vote for phony Mitch Romney. That's a pretty good split. I betcha guessed I'm not party-affiliated.

merrill 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Neither Veterans, Republicans nor Democrat Middle class Can Afford the Republican Party

--- Is the market value of your home worth less than your mortgage? How much market value have home owners lost since 2007?

--- Let's talk about those entitlements that have literally destroyed jobs,economies and retirement plans. And made owning a home a risky investment - now that is remarkable.

--- DC republicans have been successful at wrecking our economy big time twice in the past thirty years. Because of the pattern I am convinced it is their economic policy established under the direction of Reagan/Bush.

--- Bush/Cheney have accomplished a remarkable achievement by destroying the world economy which of course makes it difficult for the USA to bounce back quickly. The question becomes how in the world did they sucker financial institutions worldwide into buying bundles upon bundles upon bundles of bad USA home loans worth trillions of dollars in bad debt?

--- What an incredible and criminally insane economic policy? I don't believe the entire world can afford the economically reckless republican party that was born in 1980.

--- Remember when Reagan was running about asking "Are you better off than you were 4 years ago? " The Reagan/Bush response put millions more out of work.

--- Reagan/Bush responded with the The Reagan/Bush Savings and Loan Heist aka home loan scandal which sent the economy out the window costing taxpayers many many $$ trillions (Cost taxpayers $1.4 trillion), Plus millions of jobs, loss of retirement plans and loss of medical insurance. http://rationalrevolution0.tripod.com/war/bush_family_and_the_s.htm

--- GW Bush and Dick Cheney did it again! How do they get away with it?

--- This ENTITLEMENT Bailing out the Bush/Cheney Home Loan Wall Street Bank Fraud cost consumers $ trillions, millions of jobs, loss of retirement plans and loss of medical insurance. Exactly like the Reagan/Bush home loan scam. Déjà vu can we say. Yep seems to be a pattern. http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2009/0709macewan.html

--- This ENTITLEMENT - Bush/Cheney implied many financial institutions were at risk instead of only 3? One of the biggest lies perpetrated to American citizens. Where did this money go? Why were some banks forced to take bail out money? http://www.democracynow.org/2009/9/10/good_billions_after_bad_one_year

--- Is the market value of your home worth less than your mortgage? How much market value have home owners lost since 2007? Trillions of dollars.

Liberal 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Ten times Merrill no one is paying attention.

Eddie_Haskell 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Christ, Merril, you're interrupting my grove with your c&p. Okay. Hey, all you Sons of Anarchy fans, WTH?!! http://tv.yahoo.com/news/-sons-of-anarchy--star-johnny-lewis-dies-in-bizarre-double-death.html

merrill 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Republicans are constantly complaining about debt to the point one might believe they are the economic giants of our time. Whoaaaaaaa there for a minute.

--- In the end big debt and super duper bailouts HAVE BEEN the results which does not seem to bother Republicans, as long as they are in power.

--- In fact, by the time the second Bush left office, the national debt had grown to $12.1 trillion:

--- This Repub ENTITLEMENT - Over half of that amount had been created by Bush’s tax cuts for the very wealthy.

--- This Repub ENTITLEMENT - Another 30% of the national debt had been created by the tax cuts for the wealthy under Presidents Reagan and George H.W. Bush.

--- This Repub ENTITLEMENT - Fully 81% of the national debt was created by just these three Republican Presidents. http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2010/0111orr.html

snap_pop_no_crackle 7 months, 3 weeks ago

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57400369-503544/national-debt-has-increased-more-under-obama-than-under-bush/

Eddie_Haskell 7 months, 3 weeks ago

Groove. I've never seen SoA. Probably because crafty Ron Perlman is on it. I never got over being traumatized by "Beauty and the Beast".

somedude20 7 months, 3 weeks ago

never watched that dreadful B&B but do recall that Linda (hot bod T2) Hamilton was in it

merrill 7 months, 3 weeks ago

These people posing as republicans are not republicans. Big money effectively voted out most republicans so we could say this insane group posing as republicans bought the name as the voters watched.

How about Rt Wing Libertarian Neocon Fundamentalist Tea Party for Economic Terrorism aka The Texas Mafia.

No matter what they are no one on this planet can afford them AGAIN!

beatrice 7 months, 3 weeks ago

"I should tell my story. I'm also unemployed." — Mitt Romney

Let's keep it that way.

Obama 2012

merrill 7 months, 3 weeks ago

No one should discount the potential destructiveness of a victory for Mitt Romney. The widespread media assumption that he’s really a “Massachusetts moderate” who adopted extreme positions to placate the Republican electorate before resetting his Etch A Sketch would be irrelevant even if it were true.

A Romney victory could be accompanied by GOP control of all branches of government, with the party’s right-wing majority in the House driving the agenda.

As Grover Norquist argues, “We are not auditioning for fearless leader…. We just need a president to sign this stuff.”

The “stuff” they would pass—already endorsed by Romney—includes

--- repeal of healthcare reform, stripping some 30 million people of coverage

--- an end to Medicare and Medicaid as we know them.

These draconian measures would be used to pay for increases in military spending and tax cuts for corporations and the wealthy.

Under the Romney plan, those making over $1 million a year would receive an average tax break of $250,000.

A Romney victory would buoy a Republican right eager to roll back social progress, constrict voting rights and exacerbate racial divides in an era of middle-class decline.

The offensive against labor and workers’ rights would escalate.

And Romney’s bellicose foreign policy would make George W. Bush look dovish.

If Romney wins, we will spend four years fighting to limit the damage he will inflict on the nation.

http://www.thenation.com/article/168264/politics-99-percent[/