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Do you think downtown Lawrence needs more apartments and/or a hotel/retail space like the proposed Ninth and New Hampshire streets development?

Asked at Massachusetts Street on June 27, 2012

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Photo of Lisa Blomquist

“More people in the area for that building means more business for everyone. I think the people who oppose are just resistant to change. It (would be) aesthetically pleasing and have an upscale feel.”

Photo of Shannon Howard

“I think it’s a good thing because options are always a good thing, for apartments or whatever.”

Photo of Josh Liston

“I don’t think so — I think the cost would be too high (for area people to use the building), and parking’s already not great.”

Photo of Kate Elser

“I don’t think we need more downtown apartments — we need cultural developments instead.”


Gart 5 years, 10 months ago

No. It is Downtown LAWRENCE, KANSAS.... Think about it.

BTW. I met some shirtless guy who was "bathing" in Potters "Pond" a few days back. He was really excited to tell me that he had some "crawdads" in his underwear...... Not sure why.

He asked me to spread the word of something or another and tell Lawrence that he was going to "climb the mountain and touch the sky." I think he may have been on drugs.

RoeDapple 5 years, 10 months ago

It was too hot to fire up the lead pot at 4;00AM. Ah, well, just went out and rolled around in the grass clippings for a while. . . . ♣free the blog♣ . . . .

♣RIP multi♣

LadyJ 5 years, 10 months ago

The story of her infamous blog that would not die (at least not without a lot of effort by the LJW) will live on amongst the JW employees and bloggers. ♣free the blog♣

George_Braziller 5 years, 10 months ago

Before building more apartments or hotels, how about first getting some of the businesses and services back in the downtown area that people already living there need on a daily basis like a gas station and a drug store. I live a block from downtown and rarely ever go unless I'm meeting someone for lunch.

If they want more people living in the downtown area there has to be some place where they can pick up a quart of milk, a tube of toothpaste, or a package of diapers.

jafs 5 years, 10 months ago

Kind of a chicken/egg sort of thing, don't you think? If there isn't enough demand for those stores, they won't build them. And, if they're not there, more people won't necessarily want to live downtown.

George_Braziller 5 years, 10 months ago

Round Corner Drugstore didn't close because there wasn't a need or demand. It closed because of Tom's health issues.

jafs 5 years, 10 months ago

Ok. But no other drugstore has opened in it's place, right?

George_Braziller 5 years, 10 months ago

That doesn't mean there isn't a need for one. Not advocating for a Walgreens per se, but a smaller version of something that in the downtown area would make a killing. It has the perfect mix of merchandise downtown is lacking for the many different personalities it goes through within 24 hours. The mix of people downtown at 8 a.m. is completely different than the mix at 8 p.m. and different than the mix at 1 a.m.

jafs 5 years, 10 months ago

My point is, that if businesses perceive a market, they'll open businesses.

And, at the same time, if people perceive the area as having the amenities they want, they'll move there.

It's circular in nature, and hard to know which comes first.

George_Braziller 5 years, 10 months ago

And my point is that there's already an existing market for it.

jonas_opines 5 years, 10 months ago

Well, finally my posts are being processed.

Richard Heckler 5 years, 10 months ago

Hotels are typically low wage job centers which in reality cannot support living in Lawrence.

JackMcKee 5 years, 10 months ago

Here's what we have, new apartments cannibalizing old apartments and rental properties. This town has a love affair with new construction, even when it's not needed or wanted. To grow Lawrence and it's economy we need jobs. Good jobs. Not part time waiter/bartender/dishwasher gigs. Lawrence should have a good tech centered economy. We have a University sitting right in the middle of town that can produce educated workers. Of course, the city "leaders" (aka developers) always take the easy way out and ask us, the taxpayer, to help fund their excess. Will things ever change in this town?

Bill Lee 5 years, 10 months ago

Construction produces jobs. Apartments don't build themselves.

JackMcKee 5 years, 10 months ago

This is true, but it would be much better if the construction jobs were being created by growth in the economy with high paying, growing industries, like tech. Not just by filing in empty space.

Leslie Swearingen 5 years, 10 months ago

Well, you know jobs like dishwashers and waiters will always be needed unless people want to serve themselves at a restaurant and then clean up. What about the maids in the hotel? Does anything ever think about all the invisible people in the background who make life pleasant for others? What about the constructions workers who will get paychecks from putting this building up? Sure, it is a temp job if you chose to look at it that way, but what construction job isn't?

JackMcKee 5 years, 10 months ago

which is perfect for a rental economy, which is where we're heading in Lawrence, so maybe it all balances out. We'll have the serfs washing dishes and cleaning rooms and we';; have the lords building apartment complexes where they can live. All we need is the company store where they can buy their groceries.

booyalab 5 years, 10 months ago

In more desperate times, I've had jobs cleaned rooms and washed dishes and I'm not gonna lie, it sucks. But there is no easy way of getting skills in order to qualify for better work and there are no jobs (that I know of) for unskilled people that involve sitting around and eating bonbons.

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