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Should full-strength alcoholic beverages be sold at grocery and convenience stores?

Asked at Dillons, 1015 West 23rd St. on January 27, 2011

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“I don’t think so. In grocery stores there are people getting those beverages and there are also kids. I think the way it is now is good.”

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“It would be very convenient.”

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“I hope they decide not to do it. It might make it easier for people who really struggle with alcohol to get it.”

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“Yeah, I think people should be able to sell whatever they want.”

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b22 7 years, 1 month ago

why no, so Kansas can still be labeled a "backwards" state by everyone else. If its legal let them sell it.

black_butterfly 7 years, 1 month ago

LOL @ "full strength". No I don't beleive all alcohol should be available in grocery stores. If you want alcohol go the Liquor stores. Lord knows there are plenty of them in Lawrence.

sr80 7 years, 1 month ago

what about a bag of k4?? can't forget that.autie

pea 7 years, 1 month ago

What kind of sick overlords need to keep it inconvenient to booze it up just because they can? It's legal, let it be available, FFS.

Alceste 7 years, 1 month ago

In Kansas? HECK NO!!! Further, we need to revert back to the better system of NO LIQUOR BY THE DRINK: Private Clubs and punch cards only. All AMTRACK trains rolling through Kansas MUST be mandated to stop serving alcohol while on Kansas land and any plane flying over this state needs to stop selling liquor when in or about Kansas air space. This problem is out of hand.

maxcrabb 7 years, 1 month ago

Have you been on an Amtrak train? How could you not need a drink?

Bill Lee 7 years, 1 month ago

Stores should be able to sell any legal product, so YES.

sr80 7 years, 1 month ago

you know that alcohol is only consumed for the fine flavor not to get a buzz!! ain't that right hollis

nobody1793 7 years, 1 month ago

Why don't we just let pizza drivers deliver booze with their food?

sgl8888 7 years, 1 month ago

It's legal in Nebraska and it's legal in Missouri. I don't see a problem with it.

Fossick 7 years, 1 month ago

Five or six wives would be a pretty good excuse to drink, IMO.

sr80 7 years, 1 month ago

they do and if you have less than 4 grams its only a misdemeanor

Stuart Evans 7 years, 1 month ago

if we're going to be blazing any trails, the state needs to get on board with legalizing cannabis.

somedude20 7 years, 1 month ago

is that Wilford Brimley's merkin wig on Christina Gilley?

As for the story I firmly believe that booze should not be sold anywhere and the Govt needs to ban sex after midnight, sex without marriage, skirts, fun, little puppies, smokes, girls, trees, buildings, edible panties, people, cars, rubber chickens, tacos and such

RoeDapple 7 years, 1 month ago

OH YEAH!! Put it in a vending machine out in front of the store! You know, right next to the 'Red Box' and the Pitch 'Weakly'. Honor system, 24/7 service and $2/bottle. Keep a dumpster close by. And one space after a period . . .

Kyle Neuer 7 years, 1 month ago

Not a problem. This is already in place in many other states and the world hasn't quit spinning and the sun still comes up in the East.

classclown 7 years, 1 month ago

Only if they put it in a plain paper sack so I can take it down to the park or go behind the store to enjoy it.

Rae Hudspeth 7 years, 1 month ago

In other areas of the world, a person is even given the privilege of drinking wherever the hell they please, let alone purchasing alcohol. Mom and Pop, aka Jensen's and Myer's have no worries of losing my biz. I doubt that the grocery stores will sell Jamesons and decent wines by the bottle, let alone the case.

I sure would like to be able to pick up tonic, soda water and bar essentials at the local liquor store, and why not let them sell cigarettes, too? Make your one-stop the small shop.

Sig 7 years, 1 month ago

Amen brother! You hit it on head!

sr80 7 years, 1 month ago

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davidnta 7 years, 1 month ago

Yes. Missouri does it and it doesn't seem like a problem. Makes it easier to buy wine and groceries all in one place rather than having to drive to Cork & Barrel after Hy-Vee or Dillons.

somedude20 7 years, 1 month ago

hope you get the good vodka, the McCormic from good ole Missoura

said_zeppelin 7 years, 1 month ago

Personally, I don't understand the reason for 3.2 "low point" beer to still exist. When I was growing up there were two drinking ages; 3.2% for 18 to 20 year olds and "high point" beer and hard liquor once you reached 21. Once the national drinking age went to 21 I think low point beer should have gone away.

Since grocery stores are already carrying 3.2 just allow then to sell regular beer and let the liquor stores keep selling all kinds of booze. I agree that they should also be able to sell mixers, cork screws, etc along with the booze.

Richard Heckler 7 years, 1 month ago

Pennsylvania only allows state run liquor stores which is anything but convenient. It does not stop the socializing.

I say leave the small business people alone. It's working.

No matter what if people want alcohol they will get it which is to say this system has not curtailed anybody's desires as far as I know.

Terry Sexton 7 years, 1 month ago

Do y'all remember when Vern Miller was AG? He wanted the airlines to not serve drinks when they flew over Kansas airspace. Johnny Carson made a couple of cracks about it on The Tonight Show.

Tony Kisner 7 years, 1 month ago

Only at very deep discounts. Very deep.

Notabonehead 7 years, 1 month ago

One thing no one talks about is the fact that liquor sales in grocery stores can solve two problems we have in Kansas with urban development and rural decline.

First, in cities like Topeka and Wichita there is always an effort to develop condos and apartments in the downtown areas (to keep the carpet from rolling up at 5pm) but for people that actually try to live there they have to drive to the burbs to buy groceries. In large cities that allow liquor sales in grocery stores, small deli/convience/grocery/liquor stores can make it work (visit DC, San Francisco, etc). The ability to sell liquor can tip the scales and make these small stores viable.

Second, I can think of at least a dozen small Kansas communities that have a liquor store, but no grocery store. Why? Because you can't sell anything but liquor in a liquor store and a grocery store by itself won't make enought money. Allow free enterprise to work and maybe a small combination liquor and grocery store will make it in these communities. For people in these communities today they can walk to the liquor store but they have to drive 20 miles to buy a box of wheaties.

backyardwino 7 years, 1 month ago

Could we compromise and just have drive through liquor stores like in Florida?

jaywalker 7 years, 1 month ago

Sure. Why not? Haven't read through the full string, but didn't see a decent reason against it.

KS 7 years, 1 month ago

My travels to other states has been extensive and I see more states allow this than not. There are still local stores. Kansas laws are too old. Need to make some changes here. It's about time. Hope it goes thru.

Bob Forer 7 years, 1 month ago

Beer sold in grocery stores is "3.2%" alcohol content, liquor stores sell "6%" alcohol content. "3.2%" has no taste, no punch, etc., right? Well, it's mostly psychological. Here's why: 3.2% alcohol-content beer contains 3.2% alchohol BY WEIGHT; 6% alchohol-content beer contains 6.0% alcohol BY VOLUME. If you measure the alcohol content of "6%" beer by WEIGHT--guess what, it comes out about 3.6% or so. Not much difference between the two.

Liquor store beer therefore has 1/8 (about 12 per cent) more alcohol than grocery and convenience store beer. Not much difference--you have to drink about 8 grocery store beers to have the same "effect" as 7 liquor store beers. In the past, people between 18 and 21 could purchase 3.2 beer. Not any more. You have to be 21 to purchase either. Its about time that we repeal this distinction, and allow grocery stores to sell 6 percent beer.

independant1 7 years, 1 month ago

I sure gald you explained why I get a headache from both.

Christine Anderson 7 years, 1 month ago

What if God smoked cannabis? Toked a bong like one of us?

Kyle Neuer 7 years, 1 month ago

Do you doubt it? Ever seen a platypus?

guess_again 7 years, 1 month ago

Did anyone notice one the primary advocates for this change in law is the Koch/AFP funded professor up at KU?

Yea, the Koch's, looking out for the small guy in Kansas, by giving everything to the multi-national companies.

You remember the Koch's, the ones who funded all the Tea-Party anger during the last year:

evilpenguin 7 years, 1 month ago

In the UK it is legal to sell alcohol in grocery stores and GAS STATIONS! While I don't agree with gas stations (that's really just encouraging drink driving I would think), why not sell it in grocery stores? People who want to get booze will go anywhere that sells it anyway.

Hoots 7 years, 1 month ago

Did you also notice the HUGE drinking problem they have in th UK?

OldEnuf2BYurDad 7 years, 1 month ago

If we sell it in grocery stores, the liquor stores will go under.

The liquor stores are largely locally owned. The grocery stores are largely corporately (out of town) owned.

So, NO.

Hoots 7 years, 1 month ago

Changing the system would destroy many of the locals who own liquor stores whike turning those jobs and profits over to out of town/state corperations. I guess many here want to see even more money leave your town. What a great thing to do in a horrible economy. People miss the point that burgers, lumber, housewares, and pancakes have never been regulated like alcohol. I guess it will just make everyone happy to see those jobs dry up too. The current system isn't a bad thing. I doubt anyone here has any problem finding a bottle of vodka in Lawrence. Maybe they should sell it at Kohl's, McDonalds, and Home Depot too. If you have a need to purchase booze everyplace you go maybe you have bigger issues.

Hoots 7 years, 1 month ago

Maybe we should sell booze to your kids too. Why do people feel a need to buy anything, anywhere, at anytime? What a spoiled bunch Americans are. Alcohol isn't a cheese's a drug. All governments on this planet regulate alcohol.

Liberty275 7 years, 1 month ago

My views are a little less reserved. I think you should be able to buy any alcohol, pot, LSD, heroine, meth and/or etc at any store that chooses to sell it.

Terry Sexton 7 years, 1 month ago

Oh, give me a store With rum on the floor And bourbon & scotch on the shelf.

You can put them right near The wine coolers & beer. I'll be happy to fetch them myself.

Booze, booze in the Box (stores)! I'll drink a cart full, Then head to Detox!

Let free enterprise shine And put some fine wine Across from the bagels & lox.

Stuart Evans 7 years, 1 month ago

do you suppose they would have the free sample ladies out on Saturdays. In fact, they should just put a bar in the grocery store; A place for people to relax before or after a shopping experience. And maybe even allow you to enjoy your beverage while shopping.

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