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Should people be required to show identification when voting?
Asked at Target, 3201 Iowa St. on February 25, 2011
“I don’t know. I’m really conflicted on it.”
“No, if they’re in this country I don’t see the reason for it.”
“No, I’m a legal citizen so that doesn’t bother me.”
“Yes, just to make sure you are who you say you are.”
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ku_law (anonymous) says…
First. No.
beatrice (anonymous) replies…
Incorrect. You are the third "no."
RoeDapple (anonymous) replies…
Good catch bea.
jonas_opines (anonymous) says…
It won't fix or help anything except Kobach's resume as he ditches us for more influential or lucrative activities. But then, that's probably the point in the first place.
sherbert (anonymous) says…
Of course we should. Everyone gets one vote, we should identify ourselves to receive our ballot. Why would anyone complain about that?
jackbinkelman (anonymous) replies…
You can't think of a single reason?
sherbert (anonymous) replies…
Nope. I always thought, until recently, that you had to show ID anyway. And I've been voting for a long time.
parrothead8 (anonymous) replies…
If you've "been voting for a long time," but only figured out recently that you didn't have to show ID, then I'm not sure we can take your opinion as a very informed one. ;)
sherbert (anonymous) replies…
I think they did use to ask to see ID.
LoveThsLife (anonymous) replies…
I had to show my ID in a different state when I voted. I don't see the big deal.
disgustedagain (anonymous) replies…
it's not just ID. it's proof of citizenship. I think having to show photo ID is stupid but I could live with it. proof of citizenship is ridiculous.
faceit (anonymous) says…
It's long overdue and only makes sense.
I can see why Obama's party would object, they'd lose plenty of votes if ID was required.
cheeseburger (anonymous) replies…
That's the real reason for people's objection!
Akreed (anonymous) replies…
Correction that is the ONLY reason for people objecting. Occasionally you'll get the "well they may be on a fixed income and can't afford it" line of BS. Like the $10 for the ID is going to completely kill their budget for the year. Give me a f'n break.
punkrockmom (Nikki May) replies…
It's $18. You also have to have an address and proof of that address. While I know many here couldn't care less if homeless people don't vote, what about people who don't have bills in their name? Sure there are other things that prove you are a resident, but I can think of reasons you wouldn't be able to produce them. But anyway, it's more than the money that keeps some people from getting an ID.
I actually do have mixed feelings on the voter identification thing.
Liberty275 (anonymous) replies…
If you don't have an address, you shouldn't be voting anyway. No address means it cannot be determined which candidates or electors you may be allowed to vote for.
vertigo (Jesse Crittenden) replies…
Whether its $100 or 10 cents it's a poll tax and thus illegal.
true_patriot (anonymous) replies…
Obama doesn't get any votes from Kansas. You might want to study the way your country's electoral process works and then learn to think for yourself rather than treat political leadership like a football game.
sulliedotcom (anonymous) replies…
Who said it was just for Kansas?
SinoHawk (anonymous) says…
My only concern is for Americans living overseas (like myself). Given the requirement to show ID for just about everything though, I don't see it as an unfair burden to exercising the right to vote. I have to show ID to swipe a credit card, rent a car, do anything at a government office...
misterlee (anonymous) says…
It's no big deal to me since I always carry ID when I leave home. I wish they'd require IQ tests. Then we wouldn't have people like Kobach getting elected.
8ball (anonymous) replies…
if they required IQ test,they wouldn't let you vote!
autie (anonymous) says…
The Family is slowly but surely erroding your rights and creeping into your private life. Every time you have had a medical procedure that requires sedation, you get a new chip under your skin. Your only existence will be to serve the Family. You won't need I.D., they know who you are.
8ball (anonymous) says…
yes
itwasthedukes (anonymous) says…
Yes, would be terrible if only legal citizens voted.
RETICENT_IRREVERENT (Ronaldo Ignacio) says…
Why not tattoo a number on the inside of my wrist?
Why not inject a radio tracking tag.
Why not swab my cheek for DNA sample?
Why not require me to provide dental records?
This is not a measure to help the voting process.
This is a way to control.
This is a way to restrict.
This is a way to reduce voter participation.
No.
cheeseburger (anonymous) replies…
Aren't you overreacting a little, er a lot?
kernal (anonymous) replies…
One step leads to another, cheeseburger.
cheeseburger (anonymous) replies…
I'm not a fan of losing freedoms, but I am asked to show ID for many things, and I don't think it is out of line for something as important as voting. Even a democrat, I would hope, would want things to be fair, honest, and equitable.
vertigo (Jesse Crittenden) replies…
Are you saying that elections, now, are not fair, honest, and equitable? Is that why Republicans have held either a majority or super majority in the Kansas legislature for the past 50+ years?
jafs (anonymous) replies…
Actually, I believe that Jimmy Carter was involved with an organization that certifies elections as free and fair in other countries, and that organization would not certify ours that way.
That's a problem.
jhawks1510 (anonymous) replies…
Everyone gets one vote. No one is taking that right away, and to ensure a fair election that individuals vote just once, and reduce or eliminate instances of voter fraud (which occurs on a regular basis), it is perfectly w/in reason to have to show ID to vote. Cheeseburger makes an excellent point. I have to show my ID to enter certain buildings, or use a credit card, or apply for a passport. So, since I'm betting you already have some form of ID, that should be good, right? So come up w/a situation where someone has no valid ID but should still vote. How would that be possible? You can't function in this society w/o some form of government ID, and all us LEGAL residents and citizens of the country have social security numbers, so getting an ID should be no problem whatsoever.
Akreed (anonymous) replies…
Fearmonger
beeshlii (anonymous) replies…
u mean u did not know this is already going on?
Patriot2 (anonymous) replies…
Which wrist and when?
Can I pick the size of the needle?
Blood would be much better.
You still have teeth?
This should be law.
Yes. ID required. Maybe special ID's for voters with tattoo numbers on wrists, radio tracking tags and no teeth!
RoeDapple (anonymous) says…
I'm on a first name basis with all the election officials in my voting district. Not so much the others . . .
I need ID to write a check, pick up my prescriptions, fish, hunt or drive my car. Hell, it's been forty years since I had to show an ID to buy a beer, it'd be nice to get asked now and then. I carry my ID when I walk out to the mailbox. (Well, sometimes) A friend has spent three nights in jail over the years for no other reason than being out late without ID and refusing to tell who he was. Twice he was sober, just needed a warm bed.
murphy59 (anonymous) replies…
Your pharmacy IDs you for picking up a prescription?
RoeDapple (anonymous) replies…
By law after Feb 1,2011 your pharmacist must have on file or be presented photo ID for dispensing controlled meds
vertigo (Jesse Crittenden) replies…
"A friend has spent three nights in jail over the years for no other reason than being out late without ID and refusing to tell who he was."
No, he was in jail for refusing to tell who he was. The ID played no portion in that equation unless he was operating a vehicle.
jafs (anonymous) replies…
It's illegal to not identify yourself to a police officer?
I thought we didn't have to do that.
vertigo (Jesse Crittenden) replies…
If asked you must give your name and address.
Kansas Statute 22-2402
http://kansasstatutes.lesterama.org/C...
Peacemaker452 (anonymous) replies…
Read it again, the devil is in the details.
The officer must have a reasonable suspicion that the person has committed, is committing or is about to commit a crime. Case law also says that the officer must be able to articulate his reasonable suspicion for the detention to be lawful. Also, the last part of the code that requires “an explanation of such suspect’s actions” would not hold up very well to a 5th amendment challenge.
So no, a cop cannot just walk up to you and demand your name and address out of the blue.
RoeDapple (anonymous) says…
Dang autie! Is that what that lump is in my shoulder? I thought it was an implant from when the aliens probed me . . .
merrill (anonymous) says…
WE do not need special ID that will require MORE of my tax dollars. This is nonsense!! GO away nazi thinkers!!!
A drivers license or a state ID will do all of which are available through the drivers license headquarters as we speak. Medicare card should also suffice.
Otherwise I see nothing wrong with an ID check
RoeDapple (anonymous) replies…
Godwin award.
monkeyhawk (anonymous) replies…
So merrill, still waiting to hear how phenomenal those taxes are that you pay. I'll bet you would freak if you ever got audited.
Stop trying to snow us.
snap_pop_no_crackle (anonymous) says…
merill gets the first Godwin flag this morning!
RoeDapple (anonymous) says…
Sorry snap I only type with one arthritic finger, you beat me to it
g_rock (anonymous) says…
What is the point of limiting/ verifying voters when the real issue is really the politicians in most cases? Until they are more worthwhile, why spend the time and money?
Oh and it is Friday. Why can't we find a more entertaining topic? Any suggestions?
rtpayton (anonymous) replies…
What you prefer soft verse's hard? Example soft taco's or hard taco's. Entertaining maybe to some?
g_rock (anonymous) replies…
I guess it depends on what is going inside the taco in the first place?
independant1 (anonymous) replies…
the real issue is really the politicians - You brought up an excellent point!!!
merrill (anonymous) says…
All of us pay taxes. Sales, personal property,income,social security,water and sewer etc etc.
I now question whether Lawrence and Douglas County should allow any of our tax dollars inside the statehouse under the circumstances.
autie (anonymous) says…
I know my daughter just went to the dentist last monday for a root canal. That means she has a new chip buried underneath the stuff they filled that hole in with. It will register to The Family all the classes she takes at KU and given her major, she will be on the watch list of subversives. We found that drinking interferes with information transmission. The alcohol binds to the receptor sites on the outside of the chip and disrupts the upload. With all the new bogus laws they are making in Topeka we advise replacing the foil and black trash bags over all your windows. Black trash bags are also recommended in your attic, layered on top of the insulation.
prospector (anonymous) says…
Silly. Just silly.
Bunch of Goat Fornicating Nero's
charliejohnson (anonymous) replies…
!!!!!!!
salad (anonymous) says…
Yeah....cause nothing says "freedom" quite as clearly as being asked, "Show us your papers!" at the voting booth.
No surprise that conservatards can't see the irony.
prospector (anonymous) says…
R-I
You have not got a copyright on that yet have you?
Credit should go to you.
ophiuchus (anonymous) says…
With so many shape-shifters about, we should all be required to wear t-shirts bearing our own likenesses and, beneath that, full body tattoos of our own likenesses, front and back.
... not to mention all the varieties of *flair* enumerated by RET, above.
autie (anonymous) says…
wow...something is missing. Oh Healthcare Moocher, where did you go?
jayhawklawrence (anonymous) says…
I don't have a problem showing my ID.
I DO think that requiring first time voters to bring their birth certificate to register will make them want to either register as Independents or Democrats because of the hassle factor.
Personally, I don't see any good reason to join either political party.
Money and propaganda has corrupted the system to the point where major reforms are the only solution.
Unfortunately, when you want to get a company back on the road to solvency you have to do painful things and you have to do creative things. You cut everywhere and you pray for talent in the right places. I am not optimistic that our government can accomplish this. Maybe it will take an election and getting rid of people.
I have managed to save some companies in my career. I am most proud of the ones where creativity and initiative brought the best result. In every case, the morale was very low even after we showed tremendous success.
We had to get rid of the complainers. They just couldn't stop complaining and bringing everybody down. Even when their jobs were saved and their futures looked bright. Complaining is a cancer that destroys an organization.
It is the same with government and when people become aligned with an ideology, they stop thinking. Not a good situation.
jayhawklawrence (anonymous) says…
I vote at a Presbyterian Church.
I must not be living right.
nobody1793 (anonymous) says…
Can't we just settle all our elections using LJW online polls?
RoeDapple (anonymous) replies…
nobody likes elections, nobody . . .
nobody1793 (anonymous) replies…
Can you rephrase that in the form of a poll?
autie (anonymous) says…
Hollis, it that a.m. or p.m.? Cause basement boy east will still be drinking whiskey and reading the paper at 2:30 p.m.
CWGOKU (anonymous) says…
Yes, unless you want to continue with duplicate votings and fraud.
I went to the Dentist Tuesday.... So, am I chipped now Autie?
RoeDapple (anonymous) says…
Dang . . . I went to the dentist Tuesday too . . . autie may really be onto something here! Anybody else hearing WLS-Chicago in their sleep?
KansasTwister (anonymous) says…
Absolutely yes!!!!! I see no problem with requesting ID. It might reduce some of the voter fraud. I have to show my ID when I cash a check at my bank. I have to carry my driver's license and auto insurance card when I drive. I have to show ID if I get a fishing license. It's just a fact of life... Get use to it people!!!!!
beatrice (anonymous) replies…
What voter fraud? Do you have proof of this widespread fraud? And how will people who have mail-in ballots show be asked to show their IDs?
Also, driving and fishing aren't Constitutional rights. Do you need your ID to use your freedom of speech?
However, you may be correct. We may need to get use to political figures asking everyone at all times to carry their ID. Maybe this is why people are saying it isn't necessary now.
RoeDapple (anonymous) replies…
Cool! Next time I purchase a firearm I will tell them it is my constitutional right to keep and bear arms so I don't need to show ID! This is working out great, thanks bea!
vertigo (Jesse Crittenden) replies…
It's a constitutional right to keep and bear arms... not purchase them from a retailer.
Owning is different than purchasing through a dealer. One is specifically covered in the Bill of Rights, the other isn't mentioned at all.
Akreed (anonymous) replies…
Well thank god NOT showing ID to vote is covered in the Bill of Rights. So what is the discussion all about again?
beatrice (anonymous) replies…
RoeD, are you required to show your ID every time you go shooting? Are you required to show your ID every time you carry?
A better analogy would be comparing the gun purchase with registering to vote. IDs should be required in both instances. Once that is out of the way, then it is your right to bear arms / vote, and no ID should be required.
Are second-hand sellers of guns always required to get ID? If not, then gun owners have more freedom of the rights than voters.
RoeDapple (anonymous) replies…
I was asked for my hunting license and deer tag while target shooting several years ago. When I told him I wasn't hunting he informed me he would confiscate my guns, vehicle and ticket me if I could not provide them. Was he right or wrong? I don't know. I had them with me, showed them and he went on his way. No big deal.
RoeDapple (anonymous) replies…
And yes, if you carry concealed you better have your permit with you.
beatrice (anonymous) replies…
You obviously don't live in Arizona.
RoeDapple (anonymous) replies…
Nah, I like a little green growing on the rocks I live on ;-)
RETICENT_IRREVERENT (Ronaldo Ignacio) says…
Lets look at this hypothetically...
I am a non U.S. citizen, but I have a work permit, I-688B or an I-766. (Green Card). I am 18 years old. I have an apartment.
I show my passport, pass the vision test, pass my spanish language drivers license test, and pass my practical driving test.
I am now the proud possessor of a Kansas DL.
I now cruise the information superhighway, and go to:
http://www.kssos.org/forms/elections/...
I fill it out, skipping of course the naturalization number blank, (I am not naturalized) and because I do not totally understand english, I sign the box where it says I am a U.S. citizen. I also do not understand the part where it says I can face a penalty of up to 17 months in prison for submitting a false application. I send in a copy of my D.L. with the application.
14 days later I am a registered voter in Douglas County, KS.
Voting day rolls around, and even if I have to show a photo I.D., My newly obtained Kansas D.L., It appears that I can vote.
So...
Just how is having to show a photo I.D. (That is not a U.S. passport) going to prevent me from election fraud, and voting illegally?
ophiuchus (anonymous) replies…
RET say: "Lets look at this hypothetically..."
Ok, you lost me.
ophiuchus (anonymous) replies…
Toto... make it stop...!
jhawks1510 (anonymous) replies…
OK, let's say hypothetically you go and rob a bank, or you bilk a bunch of investors with a fraudulent scheme. What do all of these have in common? You broke the law. By your own logic, you are advocating living in an anarchic state, because you're stating that you can break the law and do what you want, so what point is there in having a law?
Anyway, I'm sure showing a passport would be fine, or a military ID, drivers license, state ID, or some other government issued ID. Really, there is no problem here.
madameX (anonymous) replies…
I'm sorry, in your hypothetical world is there no one whose job it is to review registration applications that come in and make sure they contain all the necessary information before approving them? In the real world I believe there is such a person (or persons) and I would think that an application with no SS# and no naturalization # would not result in the person submitting said application becoming a registered voter.
RoeDapple (anonymous) says…
Simple. Show proof of citizenship when applying for drivers license/state ID. Check box indicates citizen/non-citizen. Of course, if I need to show it to vote, then whoever I vote for should show theirs. (By the way, although I am not a fan of the current POTUS, I do consider him a citizen of the US due to his mother being a citizen.)(assumed)
snap_pop_no_crackle (anonymous) says…
Roe, if you are hearing John Records Landecker on WLS doing boogie checks, you may have a problem.
autie (anonymous) says…
Can I get forms to send my wife back? just kidding of course.
All you guys that went to the dentist....you betcha you got chipped. If you start dreaming about rock and roll, you'll know why now.
and if what R_I says is accurate...it was all for naught...dumbasses.
CWGOKU (anonymous) says…
I've been hearing Twisted Sister in my sleep.
Autie is sleeping on the couch tonight
RETICENT_IRREVERENT (Ronaldo Ignacio) says…
autie,
Us sovereign citizens know a thing or two...
BigPrune (anonymous) says…
I have no problem showing my i.d. to vote. I guess if I did, then I wouldn't vote. All those in favor of showing your i.d. go out and vote. All those against showing your i.d., (what are you hiding?), stay home. It's the principle of the thing.
vertigo (Jesse Crittenden) replies…
"It's the principle of the thing."
You're right. The principle being you trying to restrict my freedoms even more. Why do you hate freedom?
cheeseburger (anonymous) replies…
Why do you hate any form of compliance? What are you trying to hide?
vertigo (Jesse Crittenden) replies…
I'm already complying. I've registered. I show up. I state my name. They find my name in the book. I sign next to my name.
Why should I have to be "hiding" something if I don't want the government to hinder my freedoms anymore than they already do?
BigPrune (anonymous) replies…
I went in to vote at a resthome and some lady from another resthome comes in with this huge stack of ballots that had been filled out, said where she came from and where did they want them. THAT made me think how easy it would be to cheat in an election. Living in Lawrence doesn't help.
RoeDapple (anonymous) says…
Freedom isn't free.
beatrice (anonymous) replies…
And dom is pronounced dumb, so what is your point?
Freedom isn't free, and perhaps the price to be paid for the true freedom to vote is knowing that a very small number of people will attempt voter fraud.
(Not calling you dom, of course, just playing with the sounds of letters within words.)
autie (anonymous) says…
Why does Kris Kobach hate Kansas?
verity (anonymous) says…
I think this question is misleading. Showing some form of identification is very different from showing a photo I.D. and having to have certain "documents to prove citizenship" in order to register. (LJW did not clarify what those documents were in their February 21 article---just said an amendment was added.)
Autie, so that's why my dentist insisted that I needed a perfectly good crown, which was causing no problems, replaced. Never showed me the x-rays that supposedly proved it. Explains the tinny sound I've been hearing when I chew. Woe and tarnation, now they will know that I'm an elitist and listen to classical music. I thought I was hiding that so well.
g_rock (anonymous) says…
I have to show ID when I vote for my favorite beer in town. It is the law. Ok fine I lied. I'm 38 and no one cards me anymore at Alvins.
dogsandcats (anonymous) says…
I've had to show my ID to vote in states where I previously lived. I was surprised the first time I voted in KS and I didn't need an ID. I don't see what the big deal is, though.. I carry my ID in my wallet which is with me wherever I go anyway. I have to show it for sorts of things, what is one more?
CWGOKU (anonymous) says…
Wow.... eat a bran muffin and have a BM, sheesh, or move. Literally
prospector (anonymous) says…
When asked for my drivers license, I quickly respond, "Show me your badge."
"You have to have a picture ID, here is my PADI certification card."
LadyJ (anonymous) says…
Funny that people get upset about this and not the fact that the school district asks for you child's Social Security number. Does going to school get you SS benefits?
ivalueamerica (anonymous) says…
We are stepping ever so closely to a NAZI state.
Minorities are in hiding
Citizens have to show their papers
Unions being busted.
Just like Germany during the 1930´s
Patriot2 (anonymous) replies…
Minorities in hiding? WHO are the minorities?
Citizens should be proud to show they ARE citizens, if you're not proud may I suggest the border to the south. Be sure to take proof of ID with you because they have unique ways of dealing with non-citizens who enter THEIR country illegally.
Unions being busted? You mean they are going be treated like the rest of us, equally?
Germany during the 1930's? Not even close. YOU still have the freedom to voice your opinion.
ivalueamerica (anonymous) replies…
Do we? Under the Bush administration, some of that was eroded. Further, the GOP is trying to silence unions, but maintaining free access to big business, women are being forced to breed against their will, even when raped by their fathers.
Citizens forced to carry papers
People of different color skin or non Christian religions being treated much like the Jews of Nazi Germany in the 30´s
I think it is you that needs to revisit history
snap_pop_no_crackle (anonymous) replies…
I'm buying Godwin flags by the pallet & am still running out.
Ceallach (anonymous) says…
Read the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich then get back with us regarding what is and is not a NAZI state.
75x55 (anonymous) says…
Any of the current lib-foamers remember "The National Health ID Card".....
"eligibility for a health plan and health claim status. —The set of operating rules for eligibility for a health plan and health claim status transactions shall be adopted not later than July 1, 2011, in a manner ensuring that such operating rules are effective not later than January 1, 2013, and may allow for the use of a machine readable identification card."
Memories are mighty short around these yer parts....
artwhore (anonymous) says…
are id cards free? they aren't are they?
what about old people in nursing homes, they probably don't have IDs.
disenfranchising anyone from voting is wrong.
i understand the sentiment, but to get on a voters roll don't you have to register?
i get a voter ID card in the mail, so that should be enough i think.
prospector (anonymous) says…
"So, since I'm betting you already have some form of ID, thathould be good, right? So come up w/a situation where someone has no valid ID but should still vote." jhawks1510
I am blind and disfigured, a shut-in because of medical issues. My daddy is rich so it's all paid for . Got that sirius radio and listen to NPR and Rush Limbaugh. With the advent of the internet I can even get college credit. Please tell me why I can't vote?
jhawks1510, did you/do you still use or know anyone that has a fake ID?
I do.
RETICENT_IRREVERENT (Ronaldo Ignacio) says…
You do?
autie (anonymous) says…
my picture ID don't look nothin like me no more no how....hell that looks like Brad Pitt on my drivers license. But its been through the wash about eight times now. ID's? just so much bulls**t. Give me enough money and I'll get you what you need.
Patriot2 (anonymous) says…
Have to show ID to buy alcohol, cigarettes, spray paint, to watch R-rated movies, purchase insurance, to get the senior discount, to get a job, open a bank account, cash a check….hell just about everything! What’s the problem with showing ID to vote other than getting caught voting illegally!
vertigo (Jesse Crittenden) replies…
None of the above listed that you have to show ID for are rights in the Constitution,
sherbert (anonymous) replies…
The Constitution allows every US citizen the right to vote. It does not mean any person of any country who walks up to a US poll station and says they wants to vote. You also have to be 18 years of age, should you have to prove that?
madameX (anonymous) replies…
That information is included on your voter registration application. If you've already proven it to register, why should you have to prove it again to actually vote?
Peacemaker452 (anonymous) replies…
Jesse,
ID is required to:
Purchase a firearm
Get a permit for “Lawful Assembly”
Get anything done in our court system
So, do you agree that we need to get rid of all the restrictions on these Constitutionally guaranteed actions, or is it just voting that you have a problem with?
snoozey (anonymous) says…
Not just yes, but hell yes.
del888 (anonymous) says…
You don't need a picture ID. Just a phone book. You look up someone's name. Go to the polling place in their neighborhood, and vote using that name. You can do that hundreds of times. This even works for those dang terrorists. Who needs an ID.
toe (anonymous) says…
I am pretty sure you can live in a nursing home anonymously. Just show up, tell them you are living there, and move in.
RonHolzwarth (Ron Holzwarth) replies…
If you pay in cash, I think that will work.
Ceee (anonymous) says…
No need. Responsible public officials from both parties say there is no fraud problem. It's a figment of Kobach's fears. Also, isn't it ironic that it is Kobach and Republicans who are trying to add another layer of government.
raerae (anonymous) says…
There are a lot of people who live outside the mainstream. Are they, who are legal citizens, not to vote?
Let's not forget that a good many of the men (and women) who fought and lost their sanity for your freedoms are living outside that mainstream, and many do not have an ID card, carry a driver's license, some don't even have the means to afford that state ID card.
Would you deny them the right to vote?
They can't get a voter card in the mail if they don't have a "valid" mailing address.
wissmo (anonymous) replies…
Ask any street person who obtains free legal meds through places like Bert Nash if a photo I.D. is needed.
Yes, they will respond, and they never lose them either. They may claim they don't have one, but they do.
We have local taxpayer paid full time positions dedicated to problems like obtaining I.D.
independant1 (anonymous) says…
much ado about nothing
independant1 (anonymous) says…
but then....
Say you volunteered for election commission. Some one walks up to your A-G table and pronounces their name to get ballot. You know that name/person and this is obviously not them.
Shoot first ask questions later? Ask for ID? Give them their ballot?
independant1 (anonymous) replies…
In AZ is it legal to conceal/carry at polling place?
independant1 (anonymous) says…
When I first went to poll to vote the little lady at table looked at me and said you don't live in this precinct anymore, you cant vote here. Registered in that precinct but denied. Still stings a bit.
wissmo (anonymous) says…
pssssst shhhhhhhhhh quiet listen carefully,
the library requires photo I.D. to be issued a library card
ophiuchus (anonymous) replies…
... not that voters read.
wissmo (anonymous) replies…
meant my yep comment to go here. oph, you do have a point, sigh.
vertigo (Jesse Crittenden) replies…
Do you have to show ID every time you check out a book or is it a one time thing (like registering to vote)?
sherbert (anonymous) says…
response to Snowy Voice - If I were in Italy, I wouldn't expect to be able to vote, just because I was in the country. Nor would I expect to use their health care or in- country tuition at their universities. And if I were arrested there, I would expect to have to show my passport or other identifying documentation (as in Arizona). Just like an underage drinker, are they being profiled if they get carded? Some things require ID and the only ones who would object are the ones who aren't legal.
Jimo (anonymous) says…
Absent any voter fraud, no. Why?
gl0ck0wn3r (anonymous) says…
I, for one, would like the old-world European connections between the Lawrence Heckler family and the Wichita Koch family investigated. International weapons trafficking, political money and oil? A plant in a local papers designed to make ultra-leftists look crazy and out of touch. Coincidence? To quote Merrill's racist phrase: "no way,jose." [sic]
wissmo (anonymous) says…
Yep, you have a point, well played.
slvrntrt (anonymous) says…
In MN all you do to vote is show your state ID. You don't have to register or anything. That's how it should be here. There's really no point in requiring people to register.
Barclay (anonymous) says…
Citizenship must be verified. Without photo and citizenship verification fraud will occur. Ridiculous to advocate any other voting system. Naivete will destroy our democracratic protections. Can't believe any thinking person could think otherwise.
adagio (anonymous) says…
Duh. Yes!
snap_pop_no_crackle (anonymous) says…
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pace (anonymous) says…
I wouldn't mind showing my id except they show my weight on the darn thing and the picture is oddly red. I do mind the current ID won't be sufficient. There is the fake ID problem and we will need new super hard to counterfeit ID and then we will need proof of citizenship. A lot of the republicans have rejected Obama's birth certificate as not sufficient proof of citizenry. Plus we will have to prove it is a valid birth certificate and since a foot print is part of it, I will be slipping my shoes off and submitting my foot, if I haven't lost the foot by putting it in my mouth. DNA just proves you are a person, not you are a citizen. I expect we will have a citizen certification board and , and and.
repaste (anonymous) says…
Absentee ballots. Who? 40% some states
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PigFarmer (anonymous) says…
Of course there is no reason not to have an ID, well unless you are trying to commit fraud.
Pay_N_My_Way (anonymous) says…
Yes! one should show their ID. Furthermore, I think we should do away with absentee ballot as well.