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Would you like to see the local anti-smoking ordinance overturned?
Asked at Wayne and Larry's Sports Bar, 933 Iowa on February 10, 2010
“Yes. I’m a smoker and I would like to go to the bar and have a beer and smoke a cigarette, like the good old days.”
“No, I’m just too used to it now; you don’t go home smelling like smoke.”
“No, it’s good for the community. People that don’t smoke don’t have to breathe it and ruin their health.”
“No, because I don’t like secondhand smoke.”
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RoeDapple (anonymous) says…
no
snap_pop_no_crackle (anonymous) says…
Let 'em smoke, just don't let 'em exhale.
rdragon (M. Lindeman) says…
Let the business owners decide smoking is or isn't allowed. If they choose to allow smoking and you don't like it, you have the right not to patronize the business. Its that simple.
jonas_opines (anonymous) says…
Been over this and nothing's changed.
DEDO (anonymous) says…
Talk about beating a dead horse!
Let it go people.
conservativepunker (anonymous) says…
No, because it's a good thing to go see a band, not come home stinking of smoke, coughing up lung oysters and not having a sore throat the next day.
consumer1 (anonymous) says…
Tomorrow's on the street question.
Have you ever beaten a dead horse?
consumer1 (anonymous) says…
or is "beat a dead horse" mo betta?
The_Original_Bob (anonymous) says…
"Have you ever beaten a dead horse?"
That is how I make homemade glue.
honeychild (Mel Briscoe) says…
Nope.
IslandContributor (anonymous) says…
In theory if you beat a dead horse long enough you can reduce second hand smoke to the original first hand smoke and then ultimately stop smoking before anyone ever had the chance to smoke, which in turn changes the smoking horse to an unlit cigarette...you follow?
BrianR (anonymous) says…
"...beating a dead horse!"
Did the horse smoke cigarettes?
IslandContributor (anonymous) says…
Lets just all agree to stop beating animals is what I was getting at unless of course they smoke cigarettes or k2!
The_Original_Bob (anonymous) says…
I think this question was posed just to rile up Autie.
RETICENT_IRREVERENT (Ronaldo Ignacio) says…
The only thing hotter than a hot chick driving fast, is a hot chick firing guns.
gccs14r (anonymous) says…
Ban tobacco. That's the real fix.
CWGOKU (anonymous) says…
Smoking hot
rando1965 (anonymous) says…
many bars would stay non smoking so let the smokers have a choice and the nonsmokers have a choice..so add a blog after me crying about my blog so i don't have to go to the comedy club tonight
charliejohnson (anonymous) says…
I have always thought it should be up the the owner of the establishment. I don't smoke anymore and can appreciate the statements about coming home and smelling like smoke, but it was my choice to enter that establishment. .
BABBOY (anonymous) says…
Popular subject in Topeka. We got a bar that is defying the law by drawing duct tape on the floor and saying the area is in the duct tape is a tobacco shop. The Topeka ordinance allows smokers to smoke in tobacco shop. The bar has been in the newspaper bragging about how they found an "exception" and how they are smarter then the City. They basically have been daring the City to cite them. The City -- to their credit -- took their time, researched their ordinance, and did cite them recently. The case has not been heard yet but has been covered excessively in the Capital Journal. From what I can tell, the bar owner's reading of the ordinance is pretty whack but I am only relying on the on going debate between the bar and the City in the paper.
Funny thing is when they show pictures of the bar's good patrons gleefully defying the ordinance.
Lets just say the wine is in boxes and steak is not on the menu........
consumer1 (anonymous) says…
Umerika
love it er leave it!
troll wrote, "smoking should be outlawed".
Then only outlaws would smoke !!
Welcome back bad boys!!
Leather jackets, Brylcream, a smoke and a Harley.
Yeah Baby!!
consumer1 (anonymous) says…
I can see it now, ridin my Harley down mass, cig hangin outta the side o my mouth. I see a hot college chick, rev the engine, give er a look and say, "hey baby"!
Shaft! he's one bad Mo Fo!!
consumer1 (anonymous) says…
Is BOZO in jail?
true_patriot (anonymous) says…
Sure let's move backwards, what the hay. As long as we also repeal bans on DDT and Chlordane and cocaine and Thalidomide. Good times!
milkman_dan (anonymous) says…
Ban Thalidomide, are you kidding?
Heck, thanks to Thalidomide, my older brother was the worlds greatest Table-tennis player until they changed the rules and said you could only use two hands.
acg (anonymous) says…
I think it really should be the business owner's decision. I'm a smoker, but either way this issue doesn't affect me anymore. I have three kids so when we go to dinner, I wouldn't sit them in the smoking area anyway, its uncool. Plus an ashtray on the table is gross. In the clubs and bars, I would love to still be able to smoke, but then again, I have three kids so I don't go to clubs and bars anymore, anyway. I hate being a smoker and have tried everything to quit (incuding $250/hour hypnotherapy sessions--what a joke). This is one substance I almost wish they would ban. It's the only product on the market that if used correctly, has a high probability of making you sick or killing you.
tomatogrower (anonymous) says…
rdragon (M. Lindeman) says…
Let the business owners decide smoking is or isn't allowed. If they choose to allow smoking and you don't like it, you have the right not to patronize the business. Its that simple.
Should business owners have the right to let people snort up and shoot up in their businesses? Should they be able to allow people to have public sex? Should they be allowed to let people bring in their dogs to pee wherever? No, because all they things would be disgusting to many people. Smoking is disgusting to many people. If you are a smoker, go home and smoke in private, so those of us who are grossed out by your addiction do not have to deal with it. If they overturn the ban, I'm going to start walking into businesses wearing a bikini. I have a 50 something old body with no plastic surgery. I'll just out gross all you smokers. But, hey, that's my right according to you.
salad (anonymous) says…
I hate smoking. All in favor of the ordinance; huge benefit to restaurant diners. But there should be an exemption for bar patrons, I mean....come on! It's a bar, you should be able to smoke if you wanna.
Mariposa (anonymous) says…
This is really overreacting. Smoking is not gross. Watch films from the 40's, 50's, and 60's with Frank Sinatra, Clark Gable, Elizabeth Taylor or Marilyn Monroe smoking. Were they gross? No.
sundancewierdo (anonymous) says…
Who really cares? Really? There are way too many things to worry about these days. As a smoker, I've learned that it is my habit, and out of courtesy I have to find a proper place to smoke. What's the problem? How hard is that for people? If they want to be fair, we smokers should be able to take our drinks out to the smoking area.
jayk231 (anonymous) says…
If places chose to go back to allow smoking I will no longer spend my money there. I encourage everyone that is smoke free to not go to establishments that make that decision. Establishments like that have no respect for their workers health all they care about is making money. i am tired of establishment that don't care that their customers and staff are going to have heart, lung and other health problems as long as they are making money off of them. I have many friends that have quit since the ban and it was very helpful to them seeing the ban removed would be a terrible thing.
labmonkey (anonymous) says…
I lived in Lawrence before the ban, and I hated going out because I would go home smelling like I was in a closet with someone puffing smoke on me. Your eyes would water by the end of the night. Although I am not normally for government intrusion upon small businesses, I think it is beneficial in this case.
As for beating a dead horse.....isn't it much safer to do that than it is to beat a live horse? Wouldn't they throw you in prison for animal cruelty?
honeychild (Mel Briscoe) says…
banning tobacco isn't going to do any good... look how they banned alcholic beverages back in the 20s (and 30s also here in kansas). folks were still getting drunk. all it did was make the bootleggers back then the equivalent to the drug dealers of today.
xbusguy (chris Ogle) says…
100 years ago: Smokers beat by dead horse. Horse was ..... well.... dead
rdragon (M. Lindeman) says…
tomatogrower (Anonymous) says…
rdragon (M. Lindeman) says…
Let the business owners decide smoking is or isn't allowed. If they choose to allow smoking and you don't like it, you have the right not to patronize the business. Its that simple.
Should business owners have the right to let people snort up and shoot up in their businesses? Should they be able to allow people to have public sex? Should they be allowed to let people bring in their dogs to pee wherever? No, because all they things would be disgusting to many people. Smoking is disgusting to many people. If you are a smoker, go home and smoke in private, so those of us who are grossed out by your addiction do not have to deal with it. If they overturn the ban, I'm going to start walking into businesses wearing a bikini. I have a 50 something old body with no plastic surgery. I'll just out gross all you smokers. But, hey, that's my right according to you.
rdragon writes:
Tomatogrower, your statement is just stupid. Your comparing apples and oranges (a legal to illegal drug), apples to grapes and so on. I never claimed to be a smoker, I just feal it is the business owners choice. Let us remember that when smoking was allowed it didn't stop the non-smokers going to those bars.
RETICENT_IRREVERENT (Ronaldo Ignacio) says…
Wrong thread earlier, too many tabs open.
Rather see other things, I would hate to have to move to San Francisco or Chicago.
consumer1 (anonymous) says…
EeeeeeeeeeeeeeeYuuuukkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!!
Mater grower!!!!!!!!
Say's " I'm going to start walking into businesses wearing a bikini. I have a 50 something old body with no plastic surgery"
Instead of expecting everyone to be grossed out why not take care of you body?????
I am 58 and look pretty darned good without a shirt and great in my underwear. Ya know why??? I take care of myself. Don't smoke neither!! Not a vegirtarian either. Good cholesterol, BP under control, all my internal organs are functioning good. Don't wear glasses, although I do have a bald head. Get it together girl!! Represent!!
gogoplata (anonymous) says…
Yes, I believe in freedom.
gl0ck0wn3r (anonymous) says…
Yes. Let people make their own choices.
Ricky_Vaughn (anonymous) says…
When it comes to universal health care...everyone screams "freedom of choice".
When it comes to smoking bans...everyone screams "ban smoking".
I smell hypocrisy...
darkagent (anonymous) says…
consumer1 are you talking about the first Bozo interviewed at wanye and larrys? He did make the dgso site
honeychild (Mel Briscoe) says…
^^^ hell, i'm not even a smoker and i'm right there w/ you, spacehog! topeeky rocks!
eotw33 (anonymous) says…
topeka sucks
kneejerkreaction (anonymous) says…
Mariposa (Anonymous) says…
This is really overreacting. Smoking is not gross. Watch films from the 40's, 50's, and 60's with Frank Sinatra, Clark Gable, Elizabeth Taylor or Marilyn Monroe smoking. Were they gross? No.
*******
Clark had horrendous breath, according to Vivian Leigh. If you had smelled the early morning butt breath of any of these glamorous stars after a night of puffing, you'd say "gross". eyeech
kneejerkreaction (anonymous) says…
“Yes. I’m a smoker and I would like to go to the bar and have a beer and smoke a cigarette, like the good old days.”
— Joshua Marvin, restaurant trainer, Lawrence
*******
Well I would like to go to the bar, have a beer and NOT smoke a cigarette.
d_prowess (anonymous) says…
The thing that makes this issue hard is that people that go to bars that don't like smoking (probably the majority given polling numbers), also don't hate smoke enough to stop going to bars if the ban was removed. I like going out to some bars in town and LOVE that I don't have to breathe in the smoke. However, if they allowed smoking again, I would still go out to the bars. I just wouldn't enjoy it as much later in the night or the next day. Now maybe I would go slightly less often and might not just pop into a downtown place for a single drink since I wouldn't want to deal with smelling like smoke. But overall, those small changes in behavior aren't going to make a business to decide to remain smoke-free.
merrill (anonymous) says…
NO!
autie (anonymous) says…
TOB, I don't reckon I'd care much one way or the other.
A. I ain't had no dang cigarette in ten days.
B. Smelling somebody else smokin don't bother...me....yet.
3. I'm just easy to get along with like that and I promised myself, I could stayed quit off them, I weren't gonna be no self rightous danged crusudered about the whole thing.
Milkman Dan, that was the most horrible thing I have read in quite some time. Absolutely horrible. damn you for making me blow scotch through two nostrils at once...that kindy hurts.
Catzilla (anonymous) says…
H-E-double toothpicks NO!
denak (anonymous) says…
I am firmly in the "no" category.
It has been shown that there is a 25% reduction in heart attacks in places where a smoking ban is in place. That alone shows how beneficial the bans are.
On a more personal note, I am very smoke sensitive. It has been such a joy to actually go into a restaurant in the last few years and not leave with a headache. Not to mention that I have only had to wait for a table once since the ban.
Dena:0)
jayhawklawrence (anonymous) says…
No.
I think the bar owners are pushing this more than anything because they have seen their revenues tank from smoking ordinances and the drunk driving laws.
The old days are over and that's a good thing.
Our nation's health is the bigger issue and how we start to to take better care of ourselves. We cannot afford our health care system.
gogoplata (anonymous) says…
Yes.
SLOPOKE (anonymous) says…
YES !! The notion or decission of passing no smoking laws in public places,local gov. and Fed. bldgs.,was only considered half way.I love it when the pro's have to walk thru a group of smokers, standing in the front door, all smoking and enjoying them selves.The con's are going to smoke when they wish to smoke...Speaking of the con's. I don't think any body thought about the cost of extra Security, to enforce this law in our State and Fed. Bldg's,like our Prison system's alone. Tobbaco, is more expensisive than Herion, and other Drug's in these State and Fed. Bldg's.A carton of cigarettes cost appx. (1000.00). Is it really worth the $ to hire more Securty, Salary per officer,Health Ins., retierment....Think of the $ for Medical Bill's from the deal's gone bad, and the fund's these Gang's make to strengthen there attack on YOU the one's that voted (no) i know the ? was Local, But we can't forget the Big picture...peace to all...