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Would you like to see the 2016 Summer Olympics in Chicago?

Asked at Wayne & Larry’s Sports Bar, 933 Iowa on October 2, 2009

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Photo of Roger Paschke

“Sure, if I’m still alive, I’d probably go.”

Photo of Shabina Kavimandan

“Of course, yes, it’s time that they come back to the U.S.

Photo of Wayne Edwards

“Yes, I think it’s good for the United States.”

Photo of Summer Jackson

“For sure, I think it would be better for it to be in the United States rather than outside (the U.S).”

Comments

Flap Doodle 5 years, 2 months ago

"Talk about having your priorities straight. The commander in chief of the free world has taken a break from voting "present" on Afghanistan, letting Iran go nuclear * on the rest of the Middle East, and trying to ram state-run health care down the throats of America, to campaign for Chicago to host the 2016 Olympics.

Now you might wonder why he's doing this, well the answer is simple.

His bosses in the Chicago Machine told him to do it."

http://moxargongroup.blogspot.com/

SpeedRacer 5 years, 2 months ago

I think a Rio Olympics would be much more colorful.

jayhawklawrence 5 years, 2 months ago

This would be great for Chicago.

I lived there for over 10 years. It is a great city full of great people.

I had a great experience in Chicago. Much better than NY or LA.

Go Bears!

preebo 5 years, 2 months ago

They should go to Brazil. It would be the first time the games would be held in South America, C'mon.

Matt Warman 5 years, 2 months ago

A bowling coach? Really?! hmmm...... great sounding profession. You get to wear those cool shoes and drink beer all day. Sweet, sign me up. Nah, I'd end up in the gutter.

Bossa_Nova 5 years, 2 months ago

chicago would be better for america, but on the other hand, it would be nice to have the olympics held somewhere in south america for once

Flap Doodle 5 years, 2 months ago

“A 14-year-old boy severely beaten in Chicago's Edgewater neighborhood was able to talk to detectives Thursday after undergoing surgery for a fractured skull, police said.

The boy, a freshman at Mather High School, was chased down the 6300 block of North Paulina Street on Wednesday evening by three males who beat him, police said. One hit him with a pipe, they said.

"The victim spoke briefly with detectives and was able to relay some details of the incident," Police Officer Gabrielle Lesniak said. "His account is still a little shaky."

The boy was in critical condition at Children's Memorial Hospital but expected to live, police said. No one is in custody, but officers believe the beating is gang-related, Police Supt. Jody Weis said.

"That doesn't take away from the violence that he faced," said Weis, who indicated that police have identified members of a particular gang as the assailants.

The attack, the latest violence against a Chicago public school student, comes a week after 16-year-old Derrion Albert was beaten to death on the Far South Side.

The quiet street is within blocks of the Rogers Park Police District station and nearby Mather. The neighborhood does, however, have pockets of poverty and violence.

Chris Jones, principal at Mather, said the victim of the beating just started at the school this fall and his attendance was spotty. While the violence that felled the boy is not uncommon, Jones said, the school is safe.”

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-teen-beating-02oct02,0,763365.story

Notice what the principal said "...the violence that felled the boy is not uncommon..."

Welcome to Chicago.

jonas_opines 5 years, 2 months ago

Got a big city where you can't find an article like that, snap?

lee66049 5 years, 2 months ago

AP is reporting they got eliminated in the very first round. LOL!

flicker 5 years, 2 months ago

Yep, not going to Chicago apparently from msnbc.com

lee66049 5 years, 2 months ago

I am so glad. We do not need to spend more money we do not have for something we do not need. Hosting the Olympics is just a money pit. Besides I can not think of a worse city to represent the United States than Chicago.

jumpin_catfish 5 years, 2 months ago

Breaking News: Chicago eliminated.

Sorry Obama, maybe the Europeans don't love you as much as you thought.

Flap Doodle 5 years, 2 months ago

Epic fail for Oprah, the Klingon and the O'Dude.

lee66049 5 years, 2 months ago

Pywacket your comments has what to do with Chicago getting kicked off the Olympic ballot in the first round? I know you love Obama, perhaps you could point to the great accomplishments....Oh I know; one in ten Americans are out of work, the economy has gone in the tank since the democrats took over the budget during the Bush midterm elections, since he put his eye on the ball in Afghanistan it has gotten worse and he has done nothing about it. When Obama was in congress we had a do nothing congress, now we have a do nothing president. Again I am grateful we do not spend money we do not have for an Olympics we do not need for the purpose of Obama's hometown.

jonas_opines 5 years, 2 months ago

I can never tell from the conservative diatribes if Obama is a do nothing president or one who has done too much. Y'all need to have a sit-down and get your distorted talking points in line with each other, it's embarrassing to watch.

lee66049 5 years, 2 months ago

Poor Jonas let me clear it up for ya. Things that are important, Afganistan, economy, putting people back to work, he has done nothing. Things like the Olympics, health care that 80 of persons surveyed say they like have gotten his attention and have resulted in massive failures. Does that help at all?

jonas_opines 5 years, 2 months ago

So, in other words, lee, he's a do nothing and those who think he's going to destroy us all with socialist practices are the out to lunch ones, then? Opinion logged. You should tell some of the others here, though, as they haven't apparently gotten the memo. I've seen at least a few comments just this morning about how we're all a few steps away from fascism.

/imagine someone thinking that health care is important, when we know that it's just popular. jeez

lee66049 5 years, 2 months ago

No Jonas, not at all. Read again...third time is a charm. The things that are important.....economy for one....nothing. Things that are much lower on the list and would be in better shape if the economy was in order... like health care, gets all of his attention. Failed efforts to get the world to like him, like the Olympics, gets his attention. Dead military in Afghanistan, get a meeting with his political advisers, battle field commanders?....not so much.

cato_the_elder 5 years, 2 months ago

One has to wonder whether Chicago might have won if Barack, Michelle, Oprah and their respective entourages had simply stayed in the States and lobbied from there, with Daley and his henchmen carrying the load abroad, rather than producing the Let's-Go-to-Europe dog and pony show that they did. The IOC members could well have been offended by the entitlement mentality and rock-star ego displayed by the holder of the highest political office in America.

killjoy 5 years, 2 months ago

Napoleon,
Laisa Andrioli certainly has some amazing stats. I hope the Brazilian women's team goes far in the Olympics

Boosh 5 years, 2 months ago

Anybody know where to get a used Portuguese Rosetta Stone?

jonas_opines 5 years, 2 months ago

It's funny, lee, but you keep repeating the same thing as if I don't understand you. You've just said several times that he's Accomplished nothing. I don't disagree with you. I simply find the idea that he'll fail at everything except turning us into a fascist dictatorship or socialist paradise to be based on. . . interesting logic.

Go back to the beginning and read through it all again, maybe you'll get it this time. I won't hold my breath, though.

Deja Coffin 5 years, 2 months ago

Awwww Roger, what a sad little response........

notajayhawk 5 years, 2 months ago

cato_the_elder (Anonymous) says…

"One has to wonder whether Chicago might have won if Barack, Michelle, Oprah and their respective entourages had simply stayed in the States and lobbied from there, with Daley and his henchmen carrying the load abroad, rather than producing the Let's-Go-to-Europe dog and pony show that they did. The IOC members could well have been offended by the entitlement mentality and rock-star ego displayed by the holder of the highest political office in America."

The AP story suggests the IOC was less than impressed - possibly even offended - by Obama's pop-in, pop-out appearence, giving a quick 'heartfelt' speech and then immeidately jetting out of Dodge before they even voted.

jayhawklawrence 5 years, 2 months ago

I am happy for South America.

Let's see if they can deliver the goods. I hope they do.

Satirical 5 years, 2 months ago

Dang, I guess its back to the mundane parts of being POTUS; like talking to your top commander in Afghanistan to decide the fate of 100,000 U.S. troops.

flicker 5 years, 2 months ago

cato_the_elder (Anonymous) says…

"One has to wonder whether Chicago might have won if Barack, Michelle, Oprah and their respective entourages had simply stayed in the States and lobbied from there, with Daley and his henchmen carrying the load abroad, rather than producing the Let's-Go-to-Europe dog and pony show that they did. The IOC members could well have been offended by the entitlement mentality and rock-star ego displayed by the holder of the highest political office in America"


That's what I was just telling my son this morning!

lee66049 5 years, 2 months ago

Clueless Pywacket I said your comment has nothing to do with this thread. Stay on topic. There is a clue for ya.

Jonas gotta love ya, please show me saying "I simply find the idea that he'll fail at everything except turning us into a fascist dictatorship or socialist paradise to be based on… interesting logic." or anything like that.

I went to LSU, played football. We can't spell half those words, never mind understand them. You give me too much credit.

flicker 5 years, 2 months ago

Not to mention the "it's all about me" speech he gave to the IOC.

Flap Doodle 5 years, 2 months ago

Imagine the carbon footprint generated by this trip. Al Gore is probably sobbing his little heart out.

jonas_opines 5 years, 2 months ago

"Jonas gotta love ya, please show me saying “I simply find the idea that he'll fail at everything except turning us into a fascist dictatorship or socialist paradise to be based on… interesting logic.” or anything like that."

You'll note that the entire time I was referring to disordinate and disconnected talking points in a variety of diatribes about here, and encouraged you at two points to talk to other conservatives on here to address the inconsistency.

That's what I meant about going back and reading it again. I'm not going to take responsability for your inability to follow a point over three posts.

cato_the_elder 5 years, 2 months ago

Based on news reports, the finger-pointing has already started hot and heavy, with much of the national media already attempting to cover up for Obama's stinging embarrassment in one way or another. Locally, however, Chicago may be about to experience a political civil war, with the many corrupt factions there pitted against each other in their efforts to re-direct the blame from themselves.

Flap Doodle 5 years, 2 months ago

Hey, you could go to Chicago & watch the Rio Olympics on TV. Isn't that almost as good?

Mel Briscoe 5 years, 2 months ago

well, guess he didn't get his way. shrugs shoulders

jonas_opines 5 years, 2 months ago

"Based on news reports"

Probably the first mistake right there.

The second, that they're Cato's news reports.

lee66049 5 years, 2 months ago

Jonas: I am certainly not responsible (spelled correctly) to explain other people's comments. I know I have never said or implied anything like that. "...fascist dictatorship or socialist paradise..." that is something the Sean Hannity, Glen Beck types talk about.

I'm more concerned with the unemployment almost doubling in an Obama administration with no hope for change in site. I'm retired Air Force, so I am very concerned about Afghanistan, and Obama taking his eye resulting in doubling deaths in the war. I'm concerned with Obama doing nothing about that yet hoping on a plan to spend millions of dollars to get an Olympics to Chicago that we don't need and can't pay for.

cato_the_elder 5 years, 2 months ago

Jonas_whines, the news is the news, and I'm sure you're not liking the news of today. Chances are that it will be even worse for you tomorrow, so be sure to take your blanket and teddy bear with you to bed tonight.

sgtwolverine 5 years, 2 months ago

Py: "If the IOC did need any direct reasons to eliminate Chicago, however, they are there, starting with the out-of-control violence..."

If crime were a major consideration, Rio wouldn't be in the picture. It has been noted that Rio was the most violent of the four finalists, and not by a small margin.

Flap Doodle 5 years, 2 months ago

From another forum: “Masked_Man wrote: sing with me... mmm mmm mmm Barack Hussien Obama mmm mmm mmm lost the bid along side of his babys momma mmm mmm mmm Barack Hussien Obama his ego got knocked down mmm mmm mmm Barack Hussien Obama stop clowning around... “

http://www.chron.com/disp/discuss.mpl/ap/washington/6649332.html?p=2

Flap Doodle 5 years, 2 months ago

Okay, I'd have bet mario would have come up with that before 2:00PM today. I lost. :(

ivalueamerica 5 years, 2 months ago

Hmm, Fox does it again.

Fox has decided that Australia is not in the Southern Hemsiphere, reports the Rio games in 2016 as the first Olypics in the southern hemisphere.

"In Rio, where parties erupted as crowds learned they would host the first Olympics in the Southern Hemisphere, the news that Chicago had been eliminated was greeted with surprise."

http://msn.foxsports.com/olympics/story/10154098/Chicago-loses-in-bid-to-host-2016-Olympics?GT1=39002

Fox news, News you can count on to be off-base.

staff04 5 years, 2 months ago

Great article by Glenn Thrush in right-leaning Politico today. Not really saying anything new about politics, but some insider-y thoughts on how Republicans seem to relish news that is bad for America.

From the article:

"Remember when Republicans accused Democrats of rooting against America?

Judging from the volume of exultant Tweets and press releases from Republicans today -- you'd think they'd won a doubleheader, what with Chicago losing the Olympics and the unemployment numbers rising unexpectedly."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/1009/Bad_day_for_USA_Good_day_for_GOP.html?showall

jonas_opines 5 years, 2 months ago

So what's in the news that would have me upset, Cato? If you're referring to this story, I'd be happy to repost a few from yesterday where I said this smacked far too strongly of special interests and I thought it was quite bad form.

Poor Cato, you simply don't have the capacity to understand that I can disapprove of Obama's performance so far and still find you to be nothing more than a shrill partisan shill.

cato_the_elder 5 years, 2 months ago

Jonas_whines, perhaps you should re-read your post of 2:36 p.m. Only a petty, partisan pipsqueak upset with the news of the day could have posted what you did.

Mixolydian 5 years, 2 months ago

What?

The IOF didn't fall for the Obama's self-referential style of diplomacy?

If he can't help his cronies out, maybe he can help his brother out....

Nairobi 2020!

sgtwolverine 5 years, 2 months ago

Py...you're getting a little bit defensive and a touch shrill with the political diatribes. I don't much care to be called a winger, particularly since I haven't been littering the board with obnoxious knee-jerk OMG FAILs. It just bothered me that you said Chicago has "out of control" violence, and I thought that rather significant inaccuracy needed to be noted.

notajayhawk 5 years, 2 months ago

staff04 (Anonymous) says…

"Great article by Glenn Thrush in right-leaning Politico today. Not really saying anything new about politics, but some insider-y thoughts on how Republicans seem to relish news that is bad for America."

And how, exactly, is Chicago losing out on hosting the Olympics 'bad for America,' staff? Oh, yeah, those 15 million unemployed folks will have to travel farther for their sporting entertainment, I forgot.

Bread and circuses - hey, wtf, it's worked before. Don't worry about unemployment - don't worry about the recession - don't worry about any of the other issues facing this country. It's losing the Olympics that's 'bad for America.'

Okay, I will grant you that having Obama at the helm, representing our interests to the rest of the world, is bad for the country. Can't help that, we tried to warn you, and did all we could to prevent it. Now we have to live with it, but don't expect us to be unhappy when events that will bring about the end of the nightmare in four years instead of eight come to pass.

Personally, I prefer to watch the other side of the coin - it's not who's rejoicing, it's who is NOT. Pretty amusing, actually, that the people who voted for the man and continue to defend him are the ones who AREN'T happy.

Flap Doodle 5 years, 2 months ago

"...In short, this is a microcosm of the entire administration. They entered into a situation about which they knew nothing and put the prestige of the presidency on the line without bothering to listen past themselves and the Daley Machine in Chicago. It only occurred to them that they didn’t know the first thing about the situation until after having wasted their time and distracting themselves from much more pressing — and presidential — matters of war and the economy.

It’s not the end of the world, but perhaps it’s finally the end of the fawning and obsequious assumptions of brilliance about Barack Obama that have informed his media treatment since January 2007."

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/03/gray-lady-white-house-clueless-on-olympic-bid/

staff04 5 years, 2 months ago

"And how, exactly, is Chicago losing out on hosting the Olympics 'bad for America,' staff?"

Really? When in the very next breath you are talking about unemployment and the economy? Really?

"I prefer to watch the other side of the coin - it's not who's rejoicing, it's who is NOT"

You mean like all the people who might have been put to work, or the businesses that would have profited handsomely from the building boom that an Olympics bring?

Nice to know what you and yours think of your fellow Americans.

I think you once accused me of being drunk while posting...

Godot 5 years, 2 months ago

Perhaps this statement by Mrs. Obama had something to do with the loss.

“Some of my best memories are sitting on my dad’s lap, cheering on Olga and Nadia, Carl Lewis, and others for their brilliance and perfection.”

I hear that the members of the IOC know their Olympics history. They, then, probably knew that Carl Lewis made his first Olympic appearance in 1984.

So Michelle bounced on her daddy's knee, watching Carl Lewis run, when she was 20?

Though the IOC love sports; they probably don't appreciate being "played."

notajayhawk 5 years, 2 months ago

staff04 (Anonymous) says…

"I think you once accused me of being drunk while posting…"

I don't remember doing so - sadly misinformed is a better descriptor.

"When in the very next breath you are talking about unemployment and the economy?"

How, exactly, is a Chicago Olympics going to help the economy or the employment rate of, say, Topeka? Or anyplace else besides Chicago, where the benefit will be to a few political cronies and the odd 'community organizer' that's pals with your Messiah?

"You mean like all the people who might have been put to work, or the businesses that would have profited handsomely from the building boom that an Olympics bring?"

'Chicago 2016, the organization leading the effort to host the games, expects a cost of $3.8 billion, including a "rainy day" fund of $450 million in case of unforeseen increases.'

'But there's good reason to be skeptical of that projection, said Robert Livingstone, producer of GamesBids.com and a leading expert in the Olympic selection process. Host cities routinely overrun their Olympic budgets, he said.'

'"It's going to be more expensive than we think it's going to be, because it typically is," Livingstone said. "I think every [host] city is going to lose money. It's not an efficient event."'

'The bidding process alone is costing Chicago about $100 million, even if it doesn't win, Livingstone noted.'

'An argument often made by host city advocates is that presenting the international spectacle is good for a local economy. But such "trickle-down effects," like benefits to local businesses, are "almost impossible to measure," Livingstone said.'

'"I think a lot of people look at the Olympics, and they try to justify it by how much money it adds to the economy," said Livingstone. "[But] if you're in this to make money and improve your economy, you're in it for the wrong reasons."'

'A Chicago 2016 spokesman, who asked not be named, stood by the $3.8 billion projection. "Our numbers are completely feasible thanks to the infrastructure already in place, the number of venues already built and the temporary nature of the majority of those we're planning to build," he wrote, in an e-mail.'

...

'"The great thing about Chicago is that it needs very little infrastructure to pull off the Olympics," he said.'

http://money.cnn.com/2009/09/30/news/economy/chicago_olympics_economics/index.htm

A selling point of the proposal was the already-existing infrastructure - there wouldn't have been any "building boom." And while that might have allowed some small profit for the local economy, what would the security to avoid a much bigger recurrence of Atlanta have cost? There would have been some people put to work - for two weeks. That's a huge boon to the nation's economic problems, staff, certainly worth a 4 billion dollar investment.

Try informing yourself before trying to respond. It might just make you look marginally less like an a**.

beatrice 5 years, 2 months ago

I wonder if any of the other American haters were torn up over the fact that leaders of other nations have talked to the IOC in trying to win an Olympic bid?

Didn't think so.

Marion: “22 August 2009 at 12:11 a.m. Marion (Marion Lynn) says…

I have some interest in preservation of what might be called the “White culture”.” http://www2.ljworld.com/weblogs/at-random/2009/aug/20/heritage-and-culture-how-important-are-they-in-you/

Marion, why should we care if a racist like yourself thinks Barack "Big Bad Scary Middle Name" Obama has failed? If we wanted to know the cracker barrell's opinion of our President we would ask David Duke.

Don't you have a race-baiting blog to write?

Flap Doodle 5 years, 2 months ago

Air Force One went to Denmark & we didn't even get t-shirts. :(

staff04 5 years, 2 months ago

notajayhawk:

Not a Reagan fan I see.

I didn't read the same article you did. Hadn't seen Livingstone's opinions on it yet. If it makes you feel better about yourself to call names, then I'm happy for you. The article still didn't say that it was not a good thing to host the Olympics. It DID say that other US cities have profited from hosting though.

For some reason, I have this sense that you are one of those KC area natives who always cheered for the Raiders.

You must be really miserable inside.

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