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Do you think Lawrence is headed in the right direction, economically?

Asked at Speedway Shell, 1733 Mass. on June 11, 2009

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Photo of Joel Thomas

“Yes, I do. I don’t see anything that says it is headed in the wrong direction.”

Photo of Julie Haycraft

“I think that the town is divided on which direction we are going to take.”

Photo of Thomas O’Leary

“I think that the city can cut back a lot on its spending and be more responsible, not just now when economic times are down, but also when they’re good.”

Photo of Wendy Lindberg

“No. I think it’s all about the KU students instead of the poor people.”

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bronze 4 years, 10 months ago

why didn't we help to subsidize affordable housing instead of a subsidy of $11 million for the new hotel at 12th & Oread built and owned by the local elite?

could we not have benefitted the economy by providing green-sustatinable and affordable housing for a similar subsidy?

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Moderateguy 4 years, 10 months ago

The fundamental issue with our economy is that the government is telling us the only way to save it is to go out and buy things we don't need. Until somebody figures out the real answer is to make something other people need, we're all just watching the in-flight movie while the pilot is aiming for the ground. No, the economy is not going in the right direction. People just became bored with saving money and are buying more stuff they don't need. Thus somebody tracking "consumer confidence" says things are turning around. Nobody is paying attention to how much gas is left in the tank of the plane.

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Stuart Evans 4 years, 10 months ago

it won't matter much when the federal government goes broke and inflation destroys all the rest of our hope. China will be accepting towns such as our in trade for repayment of loans. good luck to us all!

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couranna1 4 years, 10 months ago

being as the questions were asked in the winter this is a lame on the street Sorry ljw pathetic

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Richard Heckler 4 years, 10 months ago

It's fine if economic displacement is acceptable over economic growth.

You see when towns become over saturated with retail such as Lawrence then it becomes unfriendly to business as our limited amount of retail dollars do not go far enough thus economic displacement which promotes the calling for higher fees and taxes ..... higher fees is a tax increase.

Lawrence has more infrastructure than it can support which is why older Lawrence neighborhoods are ignored and why the additional "infrastructure" sales tax was pushed which I did not vote for. Older Lawrence neighborhood tax dollars are being used and have been used to add more and more miles of new infrastructure without any means of support. Yet it goes on and on.

This was kind of of a irresponsible way to present this question because most voters/taxpayers do not pay attention to the events that take place at the school board meetings, planning commission,city commission or county commission. The end result is current politicians are getting into our wallets thus shrinking our expendable cash.

Economic Growth Problems in Lawrence http://www2.ljworld.com/polls/2007/sep/why_do_you_think_lawrence_growth_lagging/

http://www2.ljworld.com/polls/2007/jun/what_do_you_think_mayor_sue_hacks_sales_tax_propos/

http://www2.ljworld.com/polls/2006/jan/bauer_farm/

http://www2.ljworld.com/polls/2006/aug/rise_property_tax_rate_lawrence/

http://www2.ljworld.com/polls/2007/nov/what_do_you_think_oread_inn_proposal/

http://www2.ljworld.com/polls/2007/may/should_city_hall_give_tax_abatements_businesses/

http://www2.ljworld.com/polls/2007/apr/developers_new_roads/

New not necessary roads and developers are big budget/tax dollar items for taxpayers. It also known as subsidizing new wealth for the real estate/development mover and shakers.

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gl0ck0wn3r 4 years, 10 months ago

Hecklernomics have been fantastic for Lawrence... if you like high taxes, ineffective services and a small tax base.

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autie 4 years, 10 months ago

I had something humorous that others may have found humorless..so I refrained. Did somebody steal a vehicle recently? My cousin came by in a new dodge.

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prospector 4 years, 10 months ago

I'll get my chaps out and get right on it. I guess I am thinking of the Boys Club.

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RETICENT_IRREVERENT 4 years, 10 months ago

prospector, Are you bringing a YMCA to town? Because I heard somewhere it's place you can go when you're short on your dough, and that you can stay there and surely find many ways to have a good time. They have everything that you need to enjoy, you can hang out with all the boys... At the Y-M-C-A.

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prospector 4 years, 10 months ago

Nope. The economy is still in the tank with nothing but a light at the end of the tunnel and we do not know if it is the end or a train coming at us. We should wait for the dust to settle after the riots.

I personally like the community education/outreach programs, arts, pools, and parks. The sports, gym, and workout business should be left to the schools, private sector, or YMCA.

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JS82 4 years, 10 months ago

"Asked at the Speedway Shell January 11, 2009"

I know it is a cold June so far but I missed the big "snow" event this month.

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somedude20 4 years, 10 months ago

The LJW stated that this question was asked on 6/11/9 at the Shell on Mass but looking at the pictures the trees have no greens and I believe that snow is on the ground in Wendy's picture. Am I missing something or being misled?

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parrotuya 4 years, 10 months ago

Wrong, wrong, wrong! More tax cuts for the wealthy! Then, wait for the crumbs to tinkle down!

DOWn, baby, DOWn!

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duplenty 4 years, 10 months ago

"Liberals just don't know how to run an economy. "

There are no words for stupidity of this magnitude.

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Tom Shewmon 4 years, 10 months ago

That was a good post BigPrune. I couldn't be more cynical than you are about the so-called progressives if I tried!

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couranna1 4 years, 10 months ago

let the neocon nancy talk how far can that foot actually go in his mouth or up his ............. Economy is still bad bushco did a lot of damage cannot be repaired this fast Kealing was this really asked on 6/11/09 Looks like snow on the ground

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9070811 4 years, 10 months ago

The Aquatic Centers have the Parks and Rec's biggest budget. Taxes pay for Parks and Rec.

Maybe if the outdoor pool wasn't open on 70*, rainy, cloudy, cold days, then we could save thousands of dollars. Maybe if the pool wasn't open till 9pm, when there are a total of 7 people in the water. Or we could eliminate one of the three pool supervisors. That would be about 40-60k. After all, a computer system does the scheduling (just gotta punch in some figures and it's a wizz!). Two, competent, individuals (with great communication) could budget, schedule events and maintain a facility just fine.

If the city didn't waste so much money on that...money pit....then the lifeguards could get paid more than minimum wage. $7.25 to be certified in waterpark guarding, cpr, first aid, o2 and A.E.D. All to babysit the children that get dropped off at 1pm and picked up at 8:30pm. But they're probably better off at the pool than on the streets.
Aquahawks, other swim clubs and special groups should be paying way more for their lanes and/or special events.

For the city as a whole: An electronic time card system would be handy too. Then city workers wouldn't have to write down 7:15 when they arrived at 7:20....5 minutes adds up. Btw, they're required to round down or round up to the nearest quarter.

So no, not until we fix these wack budgets can this town be headed in the right direction, economically speaking.

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autie 4 years, 10 months ago

Big Prune, you are on target. Locally, we lost a major player. The finest minds in the area came together and developed the best deal they could shake. The lost out to our neighbors to the south. The the local guys took a big hit from the public..but bottom line was their pockets weren't deep enough. See you have to understand in economic development, extortion is the name of the game for the industry side. If you can't cut a better deal, they will go down the road until they find someone who can.

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dipweed 4 years, 10 months ago

Hey Journal-World! All these people have their coats on and there is snow on the ground. You're saying this question was actually asked on June 11th? Would that be in Siberia?

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BigPrune 4 years, 10 months ago

Of course it is NOT headed in the right direction economically. Lawrence hates businesses, period. This is especially true in the past 8-9 years. It all started with the hippy so-called progressives.

Here's a scenario: Farmer John owns some farmland being subsidized by the Federal Government to not grow crops. His land happens to be across the street from an industrial park. He pays $1500 a year in property taxes for his farmland. Big Gadgets Inc. is looking for a site to put in a distribution warehouse. They expect it will cost $10 Million to build their warehouse and they will employ 300 people with starting pay at $9 per hour but will also pay up to $30 per hour for management. They request a tax abatement for 10 years. The first thing the City says is, "No, hell no!" The local kook contingent says it will be ruining virginal farmland. The whole idea gets tied up in red tape for 3 months. Big Gadget sees the opposition. Ottawa contacts Big Gadget and within 5 days, Big Gadget has their site and their tax abatement.

Today, Big Gadget is paying the starting worker an average of $15 per hour because they needed to attract a better workforce from out of town, far exceeding the "non-Living Wage" requirement of Lawrence. They've also expanded and employ 700 people.

The kook contingent in Lawrence feels good and pat themselves on the back because they got to "stick to the man." Now, on to the next protest to justify their sorry existence.

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Flap Doodle 4 years, 10 months ago

Over the river and through the woods....

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autie 4 years, 10 months ago

but on the up side, he didn't mention Pelosi or Reid this time.

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edjayhawk 4 years, 10 months ago

This discussion board wouldn't be very interesting without all of Nancy Boy's non-fact based opinions...

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motocross 4 years, 10 months ago

T O BOB-

HAHAHAHA INFIDEL!!!!!!

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JackRipper 4 years, 10 months ago

Oh yes, Lawrence is onto a brilliant economic path that has worked so well, taking farmland and building something on it, houses, apartments, and business parks to increase tax income with no regard to what those will provide as far as jobs or expenses incurred by that growth.

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RETICENT_IRREVERENT 4 years, 10 months ago

T_O_B, "Man, will I feel stupid standing in the snow in just a codpiece and sipping a Long Island Iced Tea when there is a tear in the space-time continuum in July."

There, fixed it for you. (since you can not actually edit comments)

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The_Original_Bob 4 years, 10 months ago

Good point, Autie. I just hope that my survival supplies transport with me in case this goes on during the riots. Man, will I feel stupid standing in the snow in just a codpiece and sipping an iced tead when there is a tear in the space-time continuum in July.

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Practicality 4 years, 10 months ago

If the direction is few and/or low paying jobs for its citizens and high rents and/or mortgages, then yeah, it is heading in the right direction.

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autie 4 years, 10 months ago

I see the article on the number of homeless also has a winter time picture now. The space time continuum continues.

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Eddie Muñoz 4 years, 10 months ago

It's a little odd that two of the four questioned were from Manhattan and Columbia.

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The_Original_Bob 4 years, 10 months ago

Good eye, Motocross. This is the second time the LJW did this within the past week.

"“I think that the town is divided on which direction we are going to take.”

— Julie Haycraft, CMA, Columbia, Mo."

Which town? Declare your allegiance! Infidel.

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ECM 4 years, 10 months ago

This question was asked June 11, really????

All of them are wearing heavy coats and there is snow and ice on the sidewalk in the last picture.

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labmonkey 4 years, 10 months ago

Julia is a little out of her territory... So people of Lawrence, do you think Columbia, MO is headed in the right direction, economically?

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otto 4 years, 10 months ago

Brown grass and snow - Wendy is living in a different world

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jonas_opines 4 years, 10 months ago

haha! I didn't even notice the snow!

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autie 4 years, 10 months ago

Obviously your property taxes are not high enough. Lets get those valuations up people..tack on some more mils and spend, spend, spend.

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motocross 4 years, 10 months ago

UMM YEAH.... I don't think that was asked in June... There's snow on the ground.. didn't know it snowed the other day! hmm hahaha

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Flap Doodle 4 years, 10 months ago

Can you say flaming handbasket?

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Tom Shewmon 4 years, 10 months ago

Much like the state of California's economy, which is the direction the entire nation is heading at warp speed. Liberals just don't know how to run an economy. Had it not been for the faux economic dot-com boom of the 90's, Slick Willy would've been just another lackluster one-term liberal Democrat.

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RoeDapple 4 years, 10 months ago

And so sorry Wendy, if it wasn't for the university, Lawrence would be about the size of LeLoup

But the homeless problem would go away...........

;-)

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Chris Ogle 4 years, 10 months ago

Yes, I do. I don’t see anything that says it is headed in the wrong direction.”

Sounds like something a "music business" student would say.

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RoeDapple 4 years, 10 months ago

If you have to ask the question, the answer is obvious. No

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blue73harley 4 years, 10 months ago

“I think that the town is divided on which direction we are going to take.”

Exactly right. Half of us head to Topeka to work, the other half to KC - leaving the students to run amok.

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RETICENT_IRREVERENT 4 years, 10 months ago

Nope. Have everyone reduce their belongings to 100 items, pack the whole town into a few prii with GPS, and find a cheaper gas station than Speedway Shell.

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