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Do you think America can decrease its dependency on oil?

Asked at Speedway Shell, 1733 Mass. on April 9, 2009

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“Yeah, of course I do. All we got to do is drive smaller cars and start getting more solar energy.”

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“I think we can. We have the technology — we have electric cars coming out, we have the hybrid.”

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“I do believe it’s possible. It’s going to take the whole nation coming together, making choices and voting and getting stuff done.”

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“I do think that we can. I think it will just take a lot of legislation and a lot of hard work, putting some laws into enforcement.”

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RedwoodCoast 5 years ago

Price of gas, that is. Not oil.

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RedwoodCoast 5 years ago

sunshine_noise (Anonymous) says…

"If society wasn't so pressed for time contraints I would walk, ride a bike or take the bus more often, but TIME is of the escense ALways. Rush to get to work and drop the kid(s) off at school, rush to grocery shop"

Just imagine how bad it would be if teleportation was safe and reliable...

And with regard to the oil thing... I don't see it happening unless it becomes less of a "feel-good liberal" cause and more a matter of survival. As long as conservatives can afford the luxury of suppressing innovation and enforcing the status quo, I don't think it's going to happen. Now if the price of oil shot up to $6/gallon, then it might be a different story.

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JHOK32 5 years ago

We at least have a chance now with big oil's puppets out of the whitehouse. They totally scr**ed this country over so their fatcats could get even richer....It will take years to get us out of the horrific mess those total incompetents put this country into. I hope they throw the both of them in prison. Maybe they can all share a cell with Madoff!

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tumbilweed 5 years ago

There's just no time to do anything anymore!!!!!!!!

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madmike 5 years ago

We could reduce our dependence on foreign oil, but the eco freaks won't allow us to drill off of our own coasts, and they interfere with mining, nuclean and hydro power too.

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Kat Christian 5 years ago

If society wasn't so PRESSED for time contraints I would walk, ride a bike or take the bus more often, but TIME is of the escense ALways. Rush to get to work and drop the kid(s) off at school, rush to grocery shop to get home and do laundry, or take the kid(s) to practice, rush to pickup kid(s) from daycare to get home for time to cook dinner, help with homework & get the kid(s) to bed. Not much time left for us to just relax and when there is so tired - fall asleep. So not there is NO TIME to walk, ride a bus or bike - perhaps once a month here and there. This is why I believe the work week should be reduced to 30-35 hours to allow more quailty time for home life and walking or biking.

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The_Original_Bob 5 years ago

Snap -

I suppose that is just another of the great mysteries in life. Alas.

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Flap Doodle 5 years ago

Since girlfriend is knows so much about the interwebs, it is a great mystery why all of his own forums are such miserable failures.

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viewfromahill 5 years ago

In light of current economic realities...

"Do you think America can oil its dependency on decrease?"

(hmm... maybe that last word should be "decline")

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Original_Me 5 years ago

I thought the article was about food. America seems to have a bigger problem with weight than anything else. Want an American crisis? Shut down all the fast food chains. Hee hee hee! Haw haw haw! "America's Addicted to Drama!"

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The_Original_Bob 5 years ago

Girlfriend -

You know that rock you've been living under the past three months? You oughta slither back to it.

Also, Genius, if you had to subscribe to this forum, it wouldn't exist. You can't even run a free site, so you ought to understand the difficulty in attracting and retaining customers.

Nice having you back, Nick Danger.

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Marion Lynn 5 years ago

The_Original_Bob (Anonymous) says…

Yeah, I can deal with these. Pop ups and ads with audio make me want to kill."

Marion writes:

Would you prefer to have to subscribe to this forum?

For the Internet Challenged among you, "subscribe" means "pay to play".

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The_Original_Bob 5 years ago

"I'm officially putting a fork in this thread.

Jonathan Kealing Online editor"

Guess which thread he is speaking about? Methinks Mr. Kealing has a good sense of humor.

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The_Original_Bob 5 years ago

Yeah, I can deal with these. Pop ups and ads with audio make me want to kill.

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beatrice 5 years ago

Multi, they appear within the comments section directly beneath comments, not "over there," wherever that may be. The one thing I would hate is if they have flashing ads or something truly obnoxious, like the mortgage ads with dancing figures. That kind of pulsing light can trigger a migraine, which just ticks me off to no end. I'd have to stop visiting the site.

Ads for lunch specials, not so bad.

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Multidisciplinary 5 years ago

Those boxes just infiltrate everywhere, like chopped mushrooms on a mushroom-hater's restaurant salad.

I just get gray boxes inbetween comments. Now, knowing what the server problem was, we should have flooded them with emails instead of just being patient. (just kidding Jonathan)

I bet they don't do a poll asking how people feel about the ads. Maybe an OTS..Do you have any feelings about the new ads on the comments section?

Best ads I've seen, are the only remaining ones I see on here, the daily lunch specials. If I lived up there, they probably would have pulled me in a few times this week. and they are not intrusive, just over there.

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beatrice 5 years ago

By the way, I've already asked for a share of the profits from the ads that are now appearing after every 8th post. If it appears within my post, I think it only fair. Who is with me?

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Richard Heckler 5 years ago

Bring the family for a day of fun,education,music and food

In the parks as usual.

6:00am Ride the T Free for Earth Day When:Sat, April 18, 6am – 8pm Description: Fares on all fixed routes will be waived. http://www.lawrenceks.org/transit

11:00am Earth Day Parade When:Sat, April 18, 11:00am – 11:30am Where:Downtown, Lawrence, KS (map) Description:Starts at Buford Watson Park and runs down Massachusetts Street between 7th Street and 11th Street. Ends at South Park. For further information, please contact the Waste Reduction and Recycling Division at 832-3030 or visit www.LawrenceRecycles.org.

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11:30am Earth Day Celebration When:Sat, April 18, 11:30am – 4:00pm Where:South Park, Lawrence, KS (map) Description:Lawrence will hold its 9th Annual Earth Day Celebration on Saturday, April 18th from 11:30 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. in South Park (downtown near 11th & Massachusetts), and admission is free. There will be live music, food, and children's activities. People of all ages can learn from the exhibits about waste reduction, recycling, composting, alternative fuels and alternative fuel vehicles, energy conservation, land preservation, wildlife and habitat preservation, and more environmental topics. For further information, please contact the Waste Reduction and Recycling Division at 832-3030 or visit www.LawrenceRecycles.org.

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Multidisciplinary 5 years ago

tube jigs and alka seltzer. Puts a whole new spin on "Ooooh shiny!" This paper is an encyclopedia of information lately. http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2009/apr/09/ordinary-objects-super-uses/#c864618

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Multidisciplinary 5 years ago

(Don't mind autie, his father did this to him, it's iatrogenic. He can't help it, no 12 step for it..)

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autie 5 years ago

Oh brothers of the rod. Watch that water temp.

Like other members of the sunfish family, white crappie are nest builders. They are similar to bluegills in that they tend to nest in relatively large "beds", and they have very high reproductive potential which often leads to overpopulation and stunting in small lakes and impoundments. White crappie nest in the spring, generally when water temperatures reach 65°F to 70°F.

Although some nesting behavior and activity has been observed at temperatures as low as 56 degrees.

There still deep here but the fellows are starting to pick up some good strings. They just have to work pretty hard it.

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prospector 5 years ago

Babboy

WOW, Oil companies with record profits buying Congress while scratching Detroit's back. Dang, they are pretty good. If we could only bring them over from the dark side.

Again, Again, do tell what the oil companies are doing that is illegal. Or is it you want the government to take control of the worlds oil at any cost so we can …? You sound like a war monger to me with that talk.

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Multidisciplinary 5 years ago

I see being a bartender is a lot more involved than it used to be. Over on a blog, they are today discussing Duck Farts, Moose Farts, and all kinds of drinks that would probably put you on the Group W bench. Yesterday I learned about growlers, and now the girls are expanding my education. I see I may have underestimated some of these fillies. http://www2.ljworld.com/weblogs/at-random/2009/mar/27/erica-smith-fund-raiser-canceled-leaner-lawrence-c/#comments

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prospector 5 years ago

TOB, check.

Are the crappie biting yet? "Saturday: Sunny, with a high near 63. Southeast wind between 5 and 10 mph." Looks like a window.

M_D, Yes, the ones with the broad brushes make the biggest messes.

Here is the second best example of bad things coming out of Wichita. He is a Maroon!

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sgtwolverine 5 years ago

Babboy, the Big 3 like them just fine.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/blogs/automotive_news/4284293.html

http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/new_cars/4283076.html

Also, if you're going to criticize "CEO handout beggars," you shouldn't leave out the financial sector. They begged for a lot more money, and they got it with a lot fewer strings attached.

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BABBOY 5 years ago

Electric cars. With demand and little engineering and development, they can be efficient and just as fast as gas powered cars.

The problem is they do not make any noise and the Big 3 auto makers do not like them.

Why would anyone listed to those CEO handout beggars is beyond me. Oh, wait, they get help from the oil lobbyists and the oil companies with their lobbyist do not have to beg for anything..

Congressmen listen to oil lobbyist -- particularly when the head "lobbyist" has been in the oval office 12 out the last 20 years. (GB and GWB) The regular lobbyist hired more directly by the oil companies also have buckets of money to hand out and people in congress have tough time saying no to that.

Scientist and environmentalist get laughed at. But, what do you expect from a society which far too many people actually take Rush Limbaugh seriously or somehow think that Bill O'Riely is neutral.

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Multidisciplinary 5 years ago

I can't even look at that Captain's picture on Fox, I have to scroll past as soon as the page loads. He must be terrified.

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autie 5 years ago

ouch. I was so good. Got next to last in everything I touched.

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Tony Kisner 5 years ago

I think we could but I think we don't want to.

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XD40 5 years ago

The environMENTAL left scores another loser idea -- CFLs. Turns out they're not energy efficient:

http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/08/2125250&art_pos=3

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The_Original_Bob 5 years ago

Autie -

Well, you'd probably have Syracuse or Pitt trying to rescue the one guy, so we do know how that would turn out.

/damn.

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autie 5 years ago

I was still hung up on the fork in the eye thing. Which made me think of Pirates. Which by the way, looks like the Somolia pirates bit off more than they wanted when the attacked an American ship..with American sailors..U.S.S. Bainbridge vs. out of gas life boat with one hostage. I hope I don't need a bracket guess for that one.

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Multidisciplinary 5 years ago

Maybe some should do a little more surveying before they drill prospector. ;)

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The_Original_Bob 5 years ago

Prospector -

It appears that many people believe vague and meaningless strings of words construed as slogans are going to fix the economy. When reality stomps it's foot down (mid-July), bring an extra growler of Oatmeal Stout on your way out to the bunker.

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RETICENT_IRREVERENT 5 years ago

'Yes, we call them “mashed” potatoes.' - D_I_S_T

Canadians?

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prospector 5 years ago

ocean,

"you bet we can" What is your stake in this bet? What do you want us to risk?

Do you buy your gas at wally world or just having a case of Inc.-itis?

Knock yourself out. Fill that void, bring me a business plan for any widget you like and I can get you all the financing you want to build a factory and pay great wages. Just remember you are the last one in line on payday. Succeed, enjoy your riches and share them with others or don't. Fail, you got a lot to pay back.

Be the doer not the downer.

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couranna1 5 years ago

ketchup on mashed potatoes Yuk

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Benjamin Roberts 5 years ago

autie (Anonymous) says… "Oil is necessary....Ever eat a boiled french fry?"

Yes, we call them "mashed" potatoes.

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Flap Doodle 5 years ago

If the temp is between 70 & 75 degrees with no chance of rain & you have no farther than a couple of blocks to travel, the PUMA looks like the in thing for the svelte set.

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ocean 5 years ago

you bet we can.

will the us based corporations quit out sourcing all of our jobs?

we slipped from #1 for example to #9 in machine tools actually installed in the home country since the 'CORPS' decided to outsource so that you could have cheaper goods at WalMart.

WalMart bad idea. how long do you thing that works to have stuff made on the other side of the planet and then shipped back?

news economy crashed due to too many outsourced jobs by us companies.

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Multidisciplinary 5 years ago

(shakes fist at autie, great minds..)

Until we give up our passion for pan frying, and make a clean switch over to charcoal for all dishes, this country always be oil dependent. Just switching to pam from bottle could to wonders. - TOB, they are going to have to make a much wider version of that PUMA, if they are going to sell it in the countries that people can afford it. Looks like most people would have to have an extra knee joint installed to climb into it too. Men will have to wear beer gut puma spanx. This model doesn't appear to work too well (rofit). Perhaps in black with the Hellboy promo on the front? http://www.underworks.com/983.html

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Mixolydian 5 years ago

It takes a village to power Al Gore's mega home.

Face!

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Flap Doodle 5 years ago

Al Gore must give up his private jet. Do it for the children, Al.

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prospector 5 years ago

jayhawklawrence "It is real simple. It is called making choices that put America and Americans first before the oil cartels and the oil monopolies." ======================

Then simply explain what "It is called" is for me. "choices" like what?

Americans first? What are you in line for the gas pump behind a member of al qieda (SP?)? Do you want to rewrite the immortal words: Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness with all the gasoline the government can provide.

Again, do tell what the oil companies are doing that is illegal. Or is it you want the government to take control of the worlds oil at any cost so we can ...? You sound like a war monger to me with that talk.

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sgtwolverine 5 years ago

"Hybrids aren't the solution, but they are a step in the right direction. Instead we have people in America driving massive vehicles that far exceed their transportation needs."

Do hybrid SUVs make you feel conflicted?

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BuffyloGal 5 years ago

I'll ask the mom who drives her kid to school in her Hummer what she can do to change.

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The_Original_Bob 5 years ago

Bea - Ha!

Prospector is throwing down today.

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prospector 5 years ago

TOB,

The persona's ridiculed above as a point, was in no way, shape, or form a reflection of or to be disparaging to your brothers in Bob.

I think you have a candidate for the summer "funs" coming when cartoon reruns come this summer.

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jayhawklawrence 5 years ago

prospector:

Glad you enjoyed my post.

It is real simple. It is called making choices that put America and Americans first before the oil cartels and the oil monopolies.

I guess that is just too tough for some people to do.

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beatrice 5 years ago

No. Rachael Ray has us all using too much extra virgin olive oil from Italy, and we now are hooked and can't stop. Darn you Rachael Ray for being so perky and getting us hooked on e.v.o.!

snap: "I don't want to be the one to tell the ranchers in Wyoming that they have to figure out how to pull a cattle trailer with a Prius."

Okay, but would you mind telling the lady driving across town to meet friends for coffee at Starbucks that she really didn't need a Ford Explorer to get there? If the problem was really about ranchers in Wyoming driving large vehicles, we wouldn't be relying on foreign oil today.

Hybrids aren't the solution, but they are a step in the right direction. Instead we have people in America driving massive vehicles that far exceed their transportation needs. It is like trying to hunt down the last animal of a species so you can brag about being the one that made it extinct.

TOB, how soon we forget: http://nixonisinhell.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/president-bush-and-saudi-prince-abdullah2.jpg

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prospector 5 years ago

jayhawklawrence (Anonymous) says…

It's real simple.

It starts with, “Yes we can.”

Go after the energy companies and their puppets in the congress. Be fair but be square.

Enough is enough.

=============================== "“Yes we can.”" Thank you "Bob the Builder"!

"Be fair but be square." Thank you "Sponge Bob"!

"Go after' What? With burning torches and pitch forks?

The energy companies are doing what? Besides providing you a place to put your money to receive a product that provides you transportation. Do tell what they are doing that is illegal.

"It's real simple.'
You are naive or a simpleton. Turn off the cartoons and learn something. Start with the word 'fungible" and a basic grasp of economics. If anyone knows of a "School House Rock" episode to recommend as a learning tool for some of the others, I would appreciate it.

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autie 5 years ago

So does that thing come with attachments? you know, like an edger, roto tiller tynes, brush cutters, rake, leaf vaccum?

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The_Original_Bob 5 years ago

"Will that souped-up Segway hold 6 people, haul 1500# of stuff, and have a 7500# tow rating?"

It holds two people and can't even hold a briefcase.

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jayhawklawrence 5 years ago

I think the strategy being employed is to talk an issue to death instead of just doing the right thing. If you stall and talk about something long enough, everyone will be totally confused and nothing will change the status quo.

Big oil runs the show. They always have. That's the deal. Congress plays along as they always have. The wall is built on sold Republican political gamesmanship and it will take a lot of angry citizens before that wall starts coming down.

As long as there are a bunch of cult like followers out there going along with these monopolies we will continue to get the shaft and nothing will change.

Obama is the scariest thing to come along in a long time because he is upsetting their apple carts and they have to spend a LOT more money to keep their scams going.

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ms_canada 5 years ago

Talk about stupidity!! A couple of years ago I heard an Alberta trucker talking about a recent trip he made to Calif. carrying a load of potatoes. His return cargo??? you guessed it, potatoes. Humans are stupid and selfish.

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jayhawklawrence 5 years ago

It's real simple.

It starts with, "Yes we can."

Go after the energy companies and their puppets in the congress. Be fair but be square.

Enough is enough.

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ms_canada 5 years ago

Right on Sarge -" most people won't accept the drastic changes required until they have to out of necessity" We are just to selfish, let the other guy do it, Will it be back to the horse and buggy days???????? You know folks, it is not just the automobile that eats it all up. Or polutes this earthly domain. We are just using all of the resources of this earth indiscriminately. We want it all NOW. Don't worry about the great grandkids. Let them figure it out. Oh yeh. Sheesh, I could write a book on how we squander everything on this earth. We are so dang stupid.

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RETICENT_IRREVERENT 5 years ago

snap, Will that souped-up Segway hold 6 people, haul 1500# of stuff, and have a 7500# tow rating?

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Flap Doodle 5 years ago

In other news: GM is betting the farm on what is basically a souped up Segway.

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HermioneElliott 5 years ago

No, because there is no way at all to force a few million people to do anything in concert. Individuals are going to keep doing what they want. All the postings on this newspaper are not going to change human nature one jot.

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sgtwolverine 5 years ago

Hybrids aren't a solution. They never have been, and they never will be. There would be more benefit to putting all that money either into building cars that use no gas at all or into making cars considerably more fuel-efficient. Hybrids just waste money and make people feel like they're doing something good when they're not.

As to the question: yes, America can decrease its dependency on oil ... when the oil starts to run out, or when the alternative is the same price or cheaper than oil. America can try to decrease its dependency on oil in the meantime, but most people won't accept the drastic changes required until they have to make them out of necessity.

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prospector 5 years ago

We have no choice and already have, but we will not keep it up. It is a finite resource, and when the economy figures out where it is going and demand increases, say hello to $100 oil again.

No if's but when.

DOE information

"Overview. Following the sharp price decline that occurred during the second half of 2008, the global oil market has remained relatively stable since the beginning of the year. This situation is expected to continue through most of 2009, until economic recovery in the United States and elsewhere leads to a rebound in oil demand growth.

The future direction of world oil prices in the short-term will largely depend upon the timing and pace of the recovery of the global economy. Our macroeconomic forecasts are derived from the IHS Global Insight macroeconomic model. If economic growth in the United States and overseas rebounds sooner than expected, oil demand could experience stronger-than-expected growth and outpace production increases, leading to rising prices. However, any upward movement in oil prices will be muted by the relatively high levels of commercial inventories in the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) and surplus production capacity among members of the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC). OPEC is scheduled to meet March 15 to assess the market situation and determine its future oil production targets.

U.S. real gross domestic product (GDP) is expected to decline by 2.8 percent in 2009, leading to a reduction in domestic energy consumption for all major fuels. An economic rebound is projected to begin in 2010, with a 1.9-percent year-over-year growth in U.S. real GDP."

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/steo/pub/contents.html

Natural gas vehicles are a very good idea. Just lacking 10,000 NG filling station and an affordable home unit. They are $3000 today. Tax breaks to those putting NG stations up and rebates or subsidize(tax credit) for the home unit. Before the screeching of "NO tax breaks for the Oil people" folks come out, one, if you did not know it, most of the filling stations today are franchise owned, small businesses and not the one's you picture and demonize. Exxon is trying to sell all they have left, so you too can own a piece of the oil pie. Two, Screech away if you DO NOT want NG cars and truck using US NG instead of oil. Until they are known to be on the way (NG vehicles), no one can out lay big buck to serve a none existent market and they are not being built because of the non-existent infrastructure.

Autie, I appreciate the reminder for that bunker rotation and restocking chore.

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couranna1 5 years ago

All of Seattle's busses are electric and gas. They have the wires up above all over downtown. After a while you don't even notice them

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Richard Heckler 5 years ago

If we could get the Kansas legislature to wake up and move into wind,solar and hydropower Kansas would have a new and smarter image.

Hey bored children ask mom and dad to buy you roller skates to get around town and have some fun thus assisting in creating a cleaner future for yourselves.

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Richard Heckler 5 years ago

Yes commuter trains and light rail should definitely be introduced and expanded.

Obama did put out some money for cleaner burning and fuel efficient bus vehicles. Some of these are on the way to Lawrence so I hear.

So we'll see how that money is spent.

Taxpayers keep an eye on local governments to be sure they are not abusing OUR tax dollars! We know how politicians love to spin legal language.

Any vehicle that can get 37 -75 mpg will make a dent in partnership with cutting back on driving. Less driving is the key.

Local oil pollutes just as foreign oil does. Cutting back on demand for oil is the objective.

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geekin_topekan 5 years ago

RETICENT_IRREVERENT (Anonymous) says…

I wonder if Obama is going to wash anyones feet today? ++++ Hey,we all show and demonstrate our graciousness toward our foreign friends in one way or another. Some by practicing a little piece of their culture(Odude),others by smoking crack(sheter friends) and still others by refusing to use the T (I_R) and continuous shopping at wallyworld (City Fathers).

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couranna1 5 years ago

In Seattle there is a guy who works for an oil co. as head of it's driving team that has a truck {the size of a large Ryder truck} and it works on no gas at all and he runs it for 10 hours at a time. It is electric and battery powered. It will go 70mph and he uses it every day in his side business. I asked him once why they do not make more of these and he only laughed. Who would buy gas was his reply. He said the cost was more to build it but in the long run at never having to pay for gas just elec to charge it you save a bundle which is higher profit in his business. There is the technology the oil companies must just believe the public is not ready for it

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XD40 5 years ago

We need to be able to consume our own oil resources and end our dependency on foreign oil. We need to drill close offshore and on public lands. We need to extract the oil from the shale deposits in the Rockies.

BTW, the bulk of the oil we import comes from Canada and Mexico.

Drill here. Drill now.

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farfle 5 years ago

We need to radically alter our lifestyles if we are to give our children a sustainable future. I mean radically. The way we live our lives today is insanity.

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geekin_topekan 5 years ago

All but Hailey,predictably,shifted the dependency change into someone else's hands.No one mentioned altering their own behavior and attitudes as the core to relief from dependency on foreigners.

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RETICENT_IRREVERENT 5 years ago

I wonder if Obama is going to wash anyones feet today?

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Chris Ogle 5 years ago

Autie- I believe the Mrs. is on to something. By the way crappie are biting, and mushrooms around the corner.... time for the oil.

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Flap Doodle 5 years ago

Three words to reduce our dependence on foreign oil, "drill, baby, drill".

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Ceallach 5 years ago

Can? Yes, the nation CAN. The real question is whether or not we WILL. I'm not sure we have a hybrid automobile that can even drive across Texas (let alone trying to pull something at the same time) without needing to stop for a hug and a little time to chant, I think I can, I think I can, I think I can.

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couranna1 5 years ago

Of course we can the only question is will we. There are alternatives stopgap or not but they take $ to implement and then have to battle the oil companies and car companies; they are like drug dealers, they want to keep you dependent

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bobberboy 5 years ago

We had better or we can say GOODBYE to the American Dream.

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Richard Heckler 5 years ago

Stop driving so much is the best answer. No one needs to wait on government to make decisions. Stop driving so damn much. Walk,Bike,take the bus or buy some roller skates. The greater majority of Lawrence is physically and mentally capable of making change on their own and will realize a fiscal improvement in their bottom line.

Taxpayers can take stock of how the federal government spent each 2008 income tax dollar: 37.3 cents went towards military-related spending (military and military-related debt), while environment, energy and science-related spending split 2.8 cents.

The Military Cost of Securing Energy

According to a new report from National Priorities Project (NPP), the United States is spending between $97 and $215 billion dollars annually on military action to defend access to oil and natural gas reserves around the globe.

The Military Cost of Securing Energy provides a critical analysis of the military cost of defending U.S. energy concerns overseas. The report estimates that the military spends up to 30 percent of its annual budget to secure access to energy resources internationally.

http://www.nationalpriorities.org//Energy_Security/Energy_Priorities

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overthemoon 5 years ago

Went to Bruce Mau Lecture last night, One of the many ideas he touched on was Ray Kurzweil's assertion that the 21st century will see more change than the last 20000 years. The exponential explosion of information and new technologies makes our whole way of thinking about energy technology obsolete before its even out of the box. And maybe there's something coming that's a lot better and more health sustaining than a piece of fried potato!

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Kat Christian 5 years ago

Not in my lifetime. I still think that whatever happens to this earth we humans with our technogolical thinking will come up with a way of surviving. We are unique in that we are adaptable creatures. That is why we've survived as long as we have. Even if we have to burrow in underground habitats or live in a huge dome with articial atmosphere the human race will go on. Until when only Gods knows this.

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autie 5 years ago

I don't know, I'm dependent on oil. We should be converting to canola oil, as it is supposedly healthy. However, Mrs. Autie demands we use crisco for fish and potatoes. She says that the healthy oils taste like something I pressed out of my boot and prefers those saturated with the large fat molecules.

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Chris Ogle 5 years ago

Not yet autie, but I am curious..... how was it?

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autie 5 years ago

Oil is necessary. Always has, always will be. How else can we fry our fish? Ever eat a boiled french fry?

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BrianR 5 years ago

Probably true Roe but as Harlan Ellison said, “The two most common elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.” Let's hope one doesn't cancel out the other.

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Flap Doodle 5 years ago

I don't want to be the one to tell the ranchers in Wyoming that they have to figure out how to pull a cattle trailer with a Prius.

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dajudge 5 years ago

Curtis has solved the problem above. It's simple. Drive smaller cars and start getting more solar energy. Done!

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Flap Doodle 5 years ago

Perhaps if we could get NIMBY Democrats like Ted Kennedy from blocking wind-power projects things would improve.

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The_Original_Bob 5 years ago

Snap -

Damn near covered the monitor in java after I read your post. Next time the Obamas meet a foreign leader, what will happen? Will Barry try to do a chest bump to Raul?

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Mary Darst 5 years ago

I agree with gram. We could have had all of this done, if they had started 30 years ago. Seriously, It wasn't a secret then that this needed to be done.

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jumpin_catfish 5 years ago

Roe, the hydrogen thing sounds good but we aren't there yet. So until then compressed NG seems a sound alternative. But the correct answer is yes if we can get the government and car industry on board. I'm not convinced with electric cars yet but this is America and we can do it unless the politicians get in the way but the answer to that is to vote out every senator and representative who has served more then two terms. Out this the old in with the new.

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grammaddy 5 years ago

Of course we can, but it will take EVERYONE making some tough choices. Personally, I think we should have done this during the big embargo of the '70's. we were warned.

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Chris Ogle 5 years ago

Yes, but what would the folks in Saudi land say...We want everybody to like us now, you know.

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Flap Doodle 5 years ago

If doing that would stop Barry from bowing down to the king of Saudi Arabia, I'm all for it.

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RETICENT_IRREVERENT 5 years ago

Yes, of course, it is possible to legistlate America into the stone age.

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Donnuts 5 years ago

Yeah it is possible but not probable in the near future. Who knows what the future holds.

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RoeDapple 5 years ago

Hydrogen is the most abundant chemical element, constituting roughly 75% of the universe's elemental mass. All other options as a power supply are no more than temporary and inefficient. It is highly flammable, and converts itself and oxygen into water vapor as it burns. It can be produced by means of solar energy, wind turbines, hydro-electric or any "green" source of power. It can be stored as safely as fossil fuels and internal combustion engines can be readily converted to operate on it. in volumes compared to gasoline it can be produced at less cost. Down side? Possible need for "full service" gas stations, with trained handlers to fuel our vehicles.
So, enjoy your hybrids, your ethanol, your battery power. When you are ready for the power of the universe, think hydrogen.

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