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How much do you think the city should charge for recycling?

Asked at Massachusetts Street on March 5, 2008

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Photo of Libby Gard

“Nothing. It should be free. Don’t we all want to do the right thing? We should all pay for it with our local taxes whether we recycle or not. I know I would recycle more if I could just put it on the curb.”

Photo of Jacob Leal

“I’d say about $10 a month in addition to the trash bill. I think it would help people recycle more and recycle different types of things.”

Photo of Jocelyn Nichols

“I already pay the city to pick up my trash. I don’t see why they can’t just pick it up then.”

Photo of Sam Reichert

“As a student, it’s pretty inconvenient for me to recycle on a regular basis. It would make it easier for me, but it would have to be pretty inexpensive.”

Comments

Multidisciplinary 6 years, 1 month ago

red..thanks for the view of somewhere else.

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Marion Lynn 6 years, 1 month ago

Kansasredlegs:

Why should a business selling a product in the packaging provided by the manufacturer be responsible for dispostion of that packaging?

That would be the responsibility of the end user; the consumer.

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Logan5 6 years, 1 month ago

I'm almost embarrassed to say that we did not start recycling until about a year ago. I lease one of those giant trash cans on rollers from the city and have two other smaller cans as well for a family of four. Now we can barely fill one of the smaller cans halfway. Another thing that really helps reduce your trash in the first place is eliminating junk mail. In my office 90% of the trash used to be junk mail like magazines, catalogs, credit card apps., etc. One day I decided to call all the companies that were mailing me all this stuff. It took a couple of months, but it worked. My junk mail has dropped by more than half. I wish there was a way to charge these junk mail companies double for postage. They have got to kill a lot of trees every year.

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coolmom 6 years, 1 month ago

what about a 5 dollar a month fee for the special trash can for all recycling and build a recycling center and use labor from people who get into mild trouble? community service instead of sitting in jail on weekends or have the option of working off fines that often dont get paid. make it so that they have a choice but that unpaid tickets and fines are stricter.

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kansasredlegs 6 years, 1 month ago

Let's go European on this one. While living in Germany, a local law required the stores to set aside space subsequent to the cashier for customers to remove all the marketing packaging 'scheize' und plastik and leave it with the stores for recycling purposes. May be slow to catch on here initially but it was effective since the German curbside trashcans were scanned and you paid for the amount of your own individualized usage.

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misseve 6 years, 1 month ago

After looking at my bill from the City, I really don't think additional money should be "stolen" from us. How about letting those who wont mind paying for it, do just that?

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Ceallach 6 years, 1 month ago

No prob, md. I got too busy to follow-up. Thanks anyway.

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blue73harley 6 years, 1 month ago

Wow! Cool is advocating for 2 more Wal Marts! Just kidding. I think the idea of neighborhood recycling centers is a good one. Makes more sense than trucks lumbering down neighborhoods.

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Lisia 6 years, 1 month ago

Curbside recycling would be nice. What recyclables would they accept? If they took pretty much everything, I'd pay $10.

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cool 6 years, 1 month ago

really it should be free and necessarily curbside :

i think that we would have a much better program with a north lawrence recycle center, one in east lawrence, west lawrence, and the current south location.

also we need to do a much better job of recycling batteries, paint, and toxic materials - hence more locations which also take these. THEN, curbside could indeed be not needed.

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engr 6 years, 1 month ago

My favorite recycling place in Lawrence is the Habitat for Humanity Restore. You can find great deals and put to reuse all manner of construction items, wood, electrical items, shelving, tiles, furniture, etc.

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engr 6 years, 1 month ago

If the energy (transportation and processing) and water that goes into reclaiming the aluminum, steel, glass and plastic of our recyclables is less than extracting new product from their original sources, then we should be looking for a rebate or other payment for our recyclables. If it takes less resources to get the products from their original source, we may be better returning it to the ground locally to oxidize, crumble, or eventually depolymerize to their original mineral state. Perhaps an innovative company can come up with a clean way to burn plastics locally for energy...

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blue73harley 6 years, 1 month ago

214 W. 10th would be a good place for a recycling center. Plenty of volunteers there.

And T-buses could be converted to do the pick-up and drop-off. We could start by recyling the unused seats.

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Ceallach 6 years, 1 month ago

md, I don't know nuthin bout no Ronda's beatles song game, clue me in.

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JJE007 6 years, 1 month ago

Oh, and people's property taxes should be reduced according to how much time they put in at the recycling center and other yet to be determined citizen militia/volunteer jobs.

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JJE007 6 years, 1 month ago

Quit picking up yard waste. If you have a yard producing "waste", then make your yard EAT IT!~)

Start picking up trash once every TWO weeks. The horror... Pick up recycling every two weeks, too.

Lawrence should have the recycling center, not WalWart. It should be available for dropping off stuff...trash, too.

If "Lawrence" wants to recycle, then it should do the recycling. Melt, mash and meld that stuff! Burn it for power!

Move it on, head it up Head it up, move it on Move it on, head it up Recycle Ride it out, count me in, Count me in, ride it out, Ride it out, Count me in, Recycle!

Keep movin', movin', movin' Though they're disapprovin' Keep that trash a movin' Recycle! Don't try to understand it Just grab, sort, and change it Soon we'll...be living high and wide. My hearts calculatin' My true world will be waitin', Be waitin' at the end of the ride.

Recycle! Recycle!~)

Oh and don't forget to have a furniture and electronics recycling barn! ...for the nuts and bolts and granola menchers!~) Require people to work there if they're not chosen for jury duty!~) We need to organize and regulate our militia in this recycling war. Free concealed carry classes and licenses for all disassemblers of the patriarchy!~)

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Flap Doodle 6 years, 1 month ago

Link the price to the average wholesale cost of a fruitcake.

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chemegirlie 6 years, 1 month ago

mtnfreak-hello fellow engineer! You beat me to the punch in responding to cutny!

cutny-I am an engineering student at KU. I spend far more than "15 hours a week" on school. On Monday and Tuesday alone: 4 hours in class (including a 2 hour test) 6 hours studying for said test (not including studying all weekend) 20 hours on a design project

Total 30 hours in 2 days.

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sunflower5 6 years, 1 month ago

salad Recyling is all free. Trash is pay as you go. The more you toss, the more you pay. There are also fines for throwing out recyleables. Everything is billed electronically: trash guys carry electronic tagging devices like our meter readers do.

YES!! I believe this would be most beneficial for our community. Sign me up!

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Oracle_of_Rhode 6 years, 1 month ago

I pay around $10/month privately. So it should be in that ballpark. Now, get it done!

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average 6 years, 1 month ago

The question to me is, "why is there never a middle ground"? A compromise answer is that the city provides more comprehensive self-service recycling centers in, say, 5 or 6 different places in town. Use some city park land if needed. You'd have to run a truck or two to each of them every day (particularly since they wouldn't have crushers). The city does it already for cardboard and newspapers, why not other recyclables. Seems like it should be markedly cheaper than curbside.

I'm lucky to have a garage. I take in a full truckload of stuff about 4 times a year.

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cool 6 years, 1 month ago

shouldn't the new hotel at 12th & Oread also function as a neighborhood recycling center since it is getting an $11 million TIF assist from the city ?

if we help to finance 1/3 of the project what does the city get out of it ?

how about a garage recycle center and mandatory recycliing for the Hotel ?

see www.oreadinn.com / re: TIF financing

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Multidisciplinary 6 years, 1 month ago

sue, ceal, r_i, blue, r_t, everybody..good morning! go play Ronda's beatles song game, they need more people.

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bobberboy 6 years, 1 month ago

Nothing. We should be getting paid for recycling.

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BABBOY 6 years, 1 month ago

mtnfreak:

Hmm. Please do not apply at my firm. I think our work load would be stressful for you. I think it frankly be a shock to you that we expect substantially more then what you did in school. College was pretty easy. The part time job I was worked was just as easy.

How hard can it be to throw the pop can in one trash receptacle and the paper in another? Do you have logic or analytical skills?

Your post name suggest you like mountain activities. I think you will find you have more time for outdoor activities as working student then working professional. But, do not listen to me. You will find out when you graduate.

I have a graduate degree and worked when I was in school like 1000s of other people in the area. Your situation is not that unique.

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wakeup 6 years, 1 month ago

Trucks, gas, drivers, sorting, storing, and employee benefits........sure the city could do it for free. Especially when gas is over $3 a gallon.

Get off you lazy butts and drop off your recycling at one of the many drop off locations in the city. That's free recycling.......or we could eliminate a few cops or teachers and use there salaries and benefits to pay for a mandated city wide system.

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sunflower_sue 6 years, 1 month ago

It is a convenience that I would pay for. How much? It should only be whatever the city doesn't recoup in the process. If the city actually makes money on the venture, then they should charge nothing.

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ohjayhawk 6 years, 1 month ago

T_O_B - Sounds like what we have here, although it's through a private company that the city contracts with. We get a plastic tub for no additional charge on our bi-monthly trash bill. It makes it quite simple. Pick-up is on the same day as the trash pick-up, but they are picked up by different trucks. We pay $30 every other month (which is still reasonable, even though that is double what it was in 2006). However, if we go over a set amount of bags, or have more bags that can fit in a certain size trash can, we do have to buy the additional stickers as well. I think they are $1 as well.

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jumpin_catfish 6 years, 1 month ago

I will charge the city $10 per week to take it off my hands.

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Ceallach 6 years, 1 month ago

salad, you've got to be kidding! Like Germany!! If they control your trash to that extent just imagine how much they control the rest of your life.

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average 6 years, 1 month ago

"Trash is pay as you go."

This is the logical answer. My household, who regularly puts out one kitchen-sized trash bag a week, is subsidizing the people who don't recycle or compost and put out 6 large bags every week. In much of the world, you have to put out trash in special bags that you pay for in advance, to meter your use.

It would never work in this country, though. Way too many people would just dump their trash in some rural ditch.

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The_Original_Bob 6 years, 1 month ago

Back in the old days I lived in KCMO. They provided a plastic tub for free and all the recycable stuff got thrown in there (no glass). Two bag limit on the trash (I used superlarge bags) and if you needed more, you had to buy a sticker for $1 at the store. I was fuming mad at first that the city dictated this, but after about two weeks it was so easy. There was no additional charge by the city other than the $1 extra bag fee.

So, I guess what I'm saying is that Lawrence will never have curbside recycling. It makes too much sense to do so. However, The most mismanaged city in the Midwest (KCMO) figured out how to do it. Maybe Lawrence can figure it out.

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Ceallach 6 years, 1 month ago

I agree with Jacob (graphic designers just seem to have it all together and always come up with the right answer :) Let's face it, for those who take their recycling to Wal-Mart (not that many of you would step foot inside) the gas and time used would be well worth paying $10 per month and just leave it at the curb.

wys---, funny you should call us tree huggers, Tree Huggers is the recycling group I use and they do a great job.

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salad 6 years, 1 month ago

Do it like Germany does: Recyling is all free. Trash is pay as you go. The more you toss, the more you pay. There are also fines for throwing out recyleables. Everything is billed electronically: trash guys carry electronic tagging devices like our meter readers do.

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Tom Shewmon 6 years, 1 month ago

The only obvious answer: As much as they want.

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cool 6 years, 1 month ago

no more than $5.00 per month please !

any further costs should be included in the city budget but free to taxpayers.

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cool 6 years, 1 month ago

curbside recycling should be FREE !

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Norma Jeane Baker 6 years, 1 month ago

My water bill is already high enough. About $5 of my bill is for actual water; the rest is for everything else the City charges me for. I generate one kitchen-szed bag of trash every other week. I think I'm already doing my part to keep stuff out of the landfill.

Don't stick me with yet another tax (let's face it, that's really what it is) when the City has so much trouble working with what they've got.

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RETICENT_IRREVERENT 6 years, 1 month ago

"I expect the city could do it cheaper." - sdinges

I laughed so hard I just experienced a momentary bladder control failure.

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CrazyDiamond 6 years, 1 month ago

wysiwyg69 (Anonymous) says: "take to the landfill that is what it is there for you freekin tree huggers. what the hell will it matter in 100 years, you will not care by then."

Wow, you must be one of our great short sighted politicians.

How about I just drive by your house & throw it in your yard. What the hell will it matter in 2 minutes, I won't care by then, I'll be down the road.

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sdinges 6 years, 1 month ago

mtnfreak: Usually, when cities run mandatory curbside recycling (not sure if they are considering mandatory or not), the University either participates by having recycling bins available in their buildings and residence halls, or pays a large fee to opt out and does not recycle. Likewise, their job, the bar, etc would also be able to recycle or opt out. Generally people living on campus are not expected to pay fees for garbage/recycling pick up - the university does.

There is nothing to prevent off-campus students from recycling the detritus they create at home.

I pay 10 bucks a month to private company for curbside recycling. I expect the city could do it cheaper.

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SayWhat 6 years, 1 month ago

Option #1: Have it be a charge from the city in addition to trash collection, which will encourage more recycling if people are already paying for it. Option #2: $10/month

Is wysiwyg69 serious or yanking our chains? If serious, sounds like the "W"hackos who think they should do anything they want to rape the world for today's profit... who cares about the future since we won't be here and the rapture will surely come before then. Hopefully wysiwyg69 won't procreate so he won't have any little rednecks running around to care about their future.

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wysiwyg69 6 years, 1 month ago

take to the landfill that is what it is there for you freekin tree huggers. what the hell will it matter in 100 years, you will not care by then.

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mtnfreak 6 years, 1 month ago

cutny - Did you ever go to college? I'm guessing no. Students don't just go to school for 15 hours and then lay around - at least I didn't with my engineering degree. After 15 hours in class I would spend 45+ hours working on problems or labs. And this is in addition to the 20-30 hours per week that I worked because mommy and daddy didn't pay my way. Besides, Sam never said time kept him from recycling, but convenience. When you are rarely home because you are running around campus, studying in the library, or going to and from your job, where do you recycle? Are you just supposed to stash cans in your already loaded backpack to save them up until you finally do get to go home at 2am? Oh cutny, get a clue.

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KsTwister 6 years, 1 month ago

Should be free for the money it saves in buying land to bury it.

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cutny 6 years, 1 month ago

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Norma Jeane Baker 6 years, 1 month ago

Jocelyn is right. We already pay the city to pick up our trash. We also pay them to pick up our yard waste ~~ whether we use it or not.

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