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Do you carry a weapon? Why or why not?

Asked at 23rd Street on June 8, 2008

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“No, I don’t own any sort of weapons, because I don’t feel the need for one, and I avoid places that could put me in harm’s way.”

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“We have a weapon in the house, but we don’t carry it. It’s kind of scary when you don’t know who has a weapon or not.”

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“Generally I don’t carry a weapon, because I don’t need to. Your mind is the best weapon.”

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“No, it’s not necessary for me. I could see why some people would and it’s a response to a negative experience. I think it could be turned on me, too.”

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Pink_Sock 5 years, 10 months ago

Do I make you Randy?Asked at Pricillas, 23rd Street.

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macon47 5 years, 10 months ago

i used to always carry a gun, or at least a knifeuntill i taught myself to kill a man with my bare hands

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RobertMarble 5 years, 10 months ago

.454 Casull: Because sometimes 'dead' isn't quite good enough.

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cool 5 years, 10 months ago

NO of course i don't 'carry a weapon on my person'......i leave my .357 at home, thank you very much.

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compmd 5 years, 10 months ago

Yes, I have a C&R FFL. Its pretty trivial to get, being cheaper and easier to obtain than a CC permit.

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RobertMarble 5 years, 10 months ago

*I've gotta amend that- you can only have that sks shipped to your door is you are a current holder of a federal firearms license; an 03 C&R license may suffice for certain models depending on year. Either way, it can't be done by the average slob on the street or on campus without the proper credentials.

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compmd 5 years, 10 months ago

SpeedRacer:Don't forget, Lawrence is an Open Carry city. As long as its visible, you don't need a permit. mom_of_three:You stated, "Whatever we did before conceal and carry to stay safe is what we are going to do after conceal and carry." Well, sort of. First, CC permit holders don't go mugging people. So, we don't have to worry about staying safe from them.As much as the optimist in me wants to believe that the way we stay safe overall will not change, the fact is that firearms have become quite advanced over the last 60 years, and more heavy weaponry has become available. Today it is far easier to obtain an AK-47 (for example) than it was 25 years ago. Heck, I can order an SKS rifle and 1000 rounds of ammo and have it shipped next day air to my front door. Availability has made it easier for everyone to obtain a firearm, both you and me, and the sketchy folks.

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KoolKat 5 years, 10 months ago

I thought that the post was do you carry a wheapon? Why or why not?If you carry pepper spray that is a whapon. If you carry a pen or pencil those are wheapons, If you have hands or feet those are wheapons, If you carry a pocket nife that is a wheapon, Ifg you pick up a rock that is a weapon. If you hunt with a bow and arrow or any type of gun those are wheapons, if you carry conecieled whapons then of course you carry a wheapon. If you look at the FBI statistics you will discover that guns of all types added together don't equal 1/2 of the deaths as a result of weapons, Hands, baseball bats, knives, blunt objects ect make up more than half of the deaths on the list. You are much more likely to die from a staph infection because you enetered a hospital than from a weapon. When you go into the hospital you have some control of dying from a staph infection by using hand sanitizers so why shouldn't you have some control for protecting youself when you are in public. It isn't the people that have a CCH liscence that you need to be afraid of. They have passed a background check and the training to know the consequences if they take action. It is those who carry concealed that are breaking the law because it is illegal to carry concealed without the permit that you need to worry about. Most CCH holders won't stop an armed robbery if they are somewhere that one occurs if they think that someones life isn't in danger but if they feel they, their family, or the clerk is in danger of being killed they will probably take action to prevent an innocent victim's death. If a gunman starts shooting people and I had a weapon I would definitely shoot him if I feared for my life or my loved ones. Those of you who don't have a gun or won't touch a gun probably would be thankful if someone would shoot a person killing people and you are an intended victim. Like I said before people who carry legally are not a threat to the public. Those who think the police will come to their rescue have to realize that there are not enough police to be everywhere at once. If something bad happens the police get there in time to be able to identify the victums and possibly the gunman or gunmen if they commited suicide, otherwise they will start their investigation to try to find the gunman or gunmen.

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yourworstnightmare 5 years, 10 months ago

That bulge in my trousers is not a Walther PPK 9mm.

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buddythegunlover 5 years, 10 months ago

Unless I'm at my day job, or sleeping.You can bet your life I am carrying.

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RobertMarble 5 years, 10 months ago

One of the many ironies here is that those like dup are usually the first to whine about intolerance, or profiling, or discrimination, etc. Yet witness how they behave when confronted with something they disagree with.

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MandM 5 years, 10 months ago

Well I wear a suit and a tie. Sometimes I don't wear the suit jacket. But otherwise you'd probably next really ever think I was the "type" to carry a gun.

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RETICENT_IRREVERENT 5 years, 10 months ago

They carry "Guns & Ammo" at Checkers?Borders does not want my business.No 'stache, just shorts and a polo or t-shirt.

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MandM 5 years, 10 months ago

sigh:you can spot this dude. He's the guy with the greasy 'stache in a black trenchcoat fondling the May issue of "Guns & Ammo" at Checkers._____________Is this really what you think CC License holders are like?

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duplenty 5 years, 10 months ago

"Criminals, look closely, the 4 people above have just designated themselves as soft targets."sigh...you can spot this dude. He's the guy with the greasy 'stache in a black trenchcoat fondling the May issue of "Guns & Ammo" at Checkers. "Soft targets". Give me a break.

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rachaelisacancer 5 years, 10 months ago

Chuck Norris is my dad so I don't really need a weapon.

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mom_of_three 5 years, 10 months ago

Whatever we did before conceal and carry to stay safe is what we are going to do after conceal and carry.

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MandM 5 years, 10 months ago

RomanNose (Anonymous) says: A little squirt gun filled with ammonia would probably thwart off an assailant or a dog attack._____________It might make them mad and escalate the situation to the point of a more violent, physical attack.

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RomanNose 5 years, 10 months ago

A little squirt gun filled with ammonia would probably thwart off an assailant or a dog attack.

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RobertMarble 5 years, 10 months ago

to repeat again for your benefit logic, the nuked idiot had the same inability to read for content that you demonstrate. I didn't knock the guy for not choosing to carry a gun- idiot! Scroll up and re-read before you shoot your mouth off.........you gun phobic fruits are so hell bent to look for an excuse to get your panties in a twist that you are interpeting everything as a slight against your petty viewpoint.

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SpeedRacer 5 years, 10 months ago

I might carry, but haven't gone through the hassle of getting a permit yet. I'm not sure I will even then...I have enough trouble keeping my pants up with just a cell phone in my pocket.

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MandM 5 years, 10 months ago

I can't give you details about Lawrence. I don't live there. I live in a much more rural area of Kansas. In the past two years I know an 18 year old boy who was attacked and suffered head injuries that put him in the neurological ICU in Wichita for a week. He nearly died. I know a man in a very small town who apparently walked into a burglary at his rural home. He was tied to a chair and executed. I know a farmer who woke in the early morning hours to find several people in his house. He grabbed a gun and held one of them at gunpoint until the sheriff's deputies arrived. I know a business person who was murdered in her sleep. I know a man who was stabbed numerous times by a young man who was intoxicated and wanted "a ride". These things all occured in communities of 200 to 3,000 people. Not inDetroit, Chicago, Kansas City, Lawrence or Topeka.

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logicsound04 5 years, 10 months ago

"mom does this mean you don't go to the mall, church or schools?"------------------I think the point is that the likelihood of an individual being in a situation where a gun will help them in these places in their lifetime is slim to none.Sure, those stories seize our attention on the news, because of how shocking and tragic they are, but there is no realistic expectation to need a gun when you go to these places. That is why shooting sprees in those places are so jarring, because it's unexpected.Out of all the schools in the United States, what % have fallen prey to a violent rampage?Out of all the malls in the United States, what % have fallen prey to a violent rampage?Out of all the churches in the United States, what % have fallen prey to a violent rampage?I don't have the numbers, but I'd be willing to bet it's around 1%. Or some other equally insignificant ratio.If shooting sprees like the ones that happened in Omaha, at NIU, at VTech, etc. are the best reason for carrying a gun, then why are there so few examples (if any at all) of people stopping these tragedies with their own firearm?Typical street violence, like muggings, robberies, etc. are a different story. I think most pro-gun advocates make a much better case when they stick to those far more likely scenarios when they make their case for CCH or gun ownership. If you live in inner city Detroit (or any other high-crime area) I can understand the need to carry. Not so much in Lawrence, KS.When was the last time someone innocent was gunned down in Lawrence that could have saved themself with a personal firearm?

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kneejerkreaction 5 years, 10 months ago

Dark places.....like the Luby's restaurant in Texas at lunch time? A well lit, crowded lecture hall? A mall in the middle of the day full of shoppers?

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cool 5 years, 10 months ago

.357 at home is ****ing way too heavy and cumbersome in chino slacks.

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cool 5 years, 10 months ago

no just my cell phone with camera !

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MandM 5 years, 10 months ago

Mom I agree with you 100%. Commen sense. As you said, avoid the dark and bad places. To me, a gun is a tool just like the seat belt on my car. I drive safely, I don't speed.......my cruise control is my friend. But I wear my seatbelt too. Because I don't know if everyone around me is going to be a "safe" person.

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mom_of_three 5 years, 10 months ago

I think when we talk about places that put us in harm's way, we mean the dark alleys, late at night, in strange neighborhoods, or places where violence frequently occurs. Heck, if I was going to be scared there might be violence, I shouldn't step foot out of my house. Someone in a car could get mad and shoot me, too. But I am using common sense, as you should. Mall, school and church shootings don't happen that often, but when they do, they are publicized. There is usually one shooting a week in areas of Kansas City, and those are the places I don't go, especially at night, because they are known for trouble. Common sense, man, common sense.

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kneejerkreaction 5 years, 10 months ago

MandM, this is true, however the very fact that BO proposes such socialistic tripe irritates me.

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MandM 5 years, 10 months ago

kneejerkreaction (Anonymous) says: vpete69, you can defend yourself until Barack O. becomes president and enacts his Federal ban against concealed carry, with exceptions. President Obama will decide who can and cannot defend themself.__________-Sorry but the President of the United States doesn't have that authority. Congress makes laws. The President doesn't have the authority to take such broad steps on his own. Of course it would also be challenged at the Supreme Court since they are already addressing the Heller case.

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MandM 5 years, 10 months ago

mom_of_three (Anonymous) says: "No, I don't own any sort of weapons, because I don't feel the need for one, and I avoid places that could put me in harm's way."Since I was a kid, I was taught not to go places where there might be trouble. It makes perfect sense. And even if I carried a gun, why would I want to go any place where I might need to use it. _________-mom does this mean you don't go to the mall, church or schools? Those are the three most frequently targeted areas. Look at Columbine, the church shootings in Colorado and the mall shooting in Omaha as examples. Also look at the news from Oklahoma from Tuesday night. Two girls ages 11 and 13 I believe were shot to death just walking on the country road by their house. Not a stray bullet. They were both shot in the chest and head.

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kneejerkreaction 5 years, 10 months ago

vpete69, you can defend yourself until Barack O. becomes president and enacts his Federal ban against concealed carry, with exceptions. President Obama will decide who can and cannot defend themself.

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vpete69 5 years, 10 months ago

Carrying a gun isnt about being insecure or paranoid. Its about recognizing the fact that anymore the world isnt as safe as it once was. There ARE people out there that dont mind hurting you, sometimes for no apparent reason. And if I am ever in one of those situations (i hope i never am), which 9 times out of 10 will involve a gun and possibly even gunshots, I will confront it with equal force. Paranoia. Right. You think your feelings, emotions or fists are going to stop a bullet? These gang bangers and thugs have treaded the streets with guns for so long without ANY opposition. They rape, murder, kidnap and attack unarmed people at gunpoint all the time. What is paranoid about me finding a (effective) way to prevent me or my family from being the next victim? There are a lot of people who dont believe in the care bear fantasy world that the left tries so hard to force on us. There are a lot who recognize that the police are NOT there to protect us, and have no obligation to do so. I applaud every CCL holder who has had to defend their own life or another's from a threat. If it is the job of the police and government to protect us, then why do we have ANY gun deaths at all? Sorry, but the police are about the last people that I would trust to protect my life when confronted with a life or death situation. CCH is in place to allow for us as citizens to be able to protect ourselves and our families from the unfortunate threats that DO in fact exist in today's society. And in today's society, to create a level playing field, one must be able to carry a firearm. It is sad that it has come to this, but it has. We must deal with it. I will NEVER yield to thugs by not going someplace that they have made unsafe. I have the freedom to go where I wish. And now with CCH, the bad guy doesn't know if I have a gun or not. As for all the care bears out there who live in "My Little Pony Land", you need to step out of your fantasy world and come to terms with reality.

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consumer1 5 years, 10 months ago

Can you say stereotyping ????? Isn't that against the law in Lawrence??? Don't those of us who are enlightened refer to people who stereotype as "biggots"?

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consumer1 5 years, 10 months ago

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consumer1 5 years, 10 months ago

Multi, I didn't bother reading any of the post after you mentioned that you would be happy to have someone else carry those two big weapons of yours. So, i would like to volunteer for that position.Con1

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kneejerkreaction 5 years, 10 months ago

No, your loaded bat won't count against a loaded gun I'm afraid.

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mom_of_three 5 years, 10 months ago

No, I do not own a weapon, nor do I plan on owning a weapon. My family does not own a weapon. But I do have a loaded baseball bat - does that count?

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RedwoodCoast 5 years, 10 months ago

I carry pepper spray when I'm out jogging... for dogs. And as I've said before, the decision to carry a firearm can probably be traced to nothing else but individual psychology. If you aren't consistently putting yourself in harm's way or aren't traumatized for some reason, then I might suggest that you are either paranoid or insecure... or varying degrees of both.

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Windlass 5 years, 10 months ago

No, nothing. I have never needed to carry a weapon. Carrying weapons is probably the dumbest thing I've ever heard of.

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autie 5 years, 10 months ago

Forget my question. I went back up and read where that came from..You are correct logicsound, that is one of the dumbest post I ever read.

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autie 5 years, 10 months ago

do I carry a weapon? sure, my rapier wit. It almost gets me killed though. Up above I saw "Nazi leftist". What is that? ?That term is like an oxoymoron..

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logicsound04 5 years, 10 months ago

Just who is it you think I am?I don't work for the state.

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justfornow 5 years, 10 months ago

So let me get this straight:.you are spending your time posting on this blog to call me out for:.err:posting on this blog.No, just while your at work working for the Taxpayer's of Kansas. Be productive while at work.

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logicsound04 5 years, 10 months ago

"justfornow (Anonymous) says: logicsound04, that's it I'm calling. Slacker!"-------------------------So let me get this straight....you are spending your time posting on this blog to call me out for....err...posting on this blog.The word hypocrite comes to mind. Or maybe moron.Oh, but if you are serious, her number is 1-800-ANNOY-ME

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Eybea Opiner 5 years, 10 months ago

I own a pistol, and I keep it loaded in my house. There are no children in the house and my wife doesn't even know where it is. I bought this weapon when I traveled in a trailer a lot, and might find myself camped in a parking lot, or in a remote location. I don't really have any need for it any more, but I kind of like the idea of exercising my 2nd Amendment right.

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mom_of_three 5 years, 10 months ago

"No, I don't own any sort of weapons, because I don't feel the need for one, and I avoid places that could put me in harm's way."Since I was a kid, I was taught not to go places where there might be trouble. It makes perfect sense. And even if I carried a gun, why would I want to go any place where I might need to use it. No, I would still avoid a place where there might be trouble. You are not limiting or the criminals are not limiting where I can go or not go. I simply choose not to. And if the bad guys are hanging out there, is there really anything to see to begin with?

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justfornow 5 years, 10 months ago

logicsound04, that's it I'm calling. Slacker!

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vpete69 5 years, 10 months ago

The jews were unarmed. We all saw what happened to them. A gun ban will never happen in the US without a civil war. I wonder who will win that battle? Bullets or emotions?

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logicsound04 5 years, 10 months ago

"the Nazi's were leftists"-------------Absolutely ignorant. Please read a book.

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logicsound04 5 years, 10 months ago

Does someone hear a buzzing sound?

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justfornow 5 years, 10 months ago

logicsound04, get your A$$ back to work before I call your supervisor.

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logicsound04 5 years, 10 months ago

You can try to spin it all you want, but the "idiot" you "nuked" was simply saying that he doesn't feel the need to own a firearm. His comment made no judgement about those who DO carry one.But that's often the problem with certain types of pro-gun advocates like yourself. You think everytime someone expresses their dislike of guns is an affront on your right to carry one.I don't think avoiding the types of places where one is likely to need a gun for protection is "spineless" or a self-denial of freedom. Personally, I think most people--even gun owners--would prefer to avoid having to use a gun at all, and probably already avoid the types of places that pose a higher risk of needing a gun for protection. One example would be staying away from clubs like Last Call. Another might be avoiding walking down inner-city streets alone late at night.Now I'm not saying that no one could possibly have the need for a firearm unless they frequent places that are similar to those I've mentioned. But it is unlikely that your average person will need a firearm to defend themself in their lifetime, and that unlikelyhood increases if they don't find themselves in places where risk is high.But please, continue with the hard-headedness your screenname implies.

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RobertMarble 5 years, 10 months ago

by the way...there have been several comments by the libs here referring to "licensed" or "registered" firearms. In the state of Kansas, as in nearly all states (with certain fruitcake exceptions, no licensing or registration is required for ownership of a firearms (other than class III weapons).

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gogoplata 5 years, 10 months ago

"I guess we're gonna have to register you as a lethal weapon."

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RomanNose 5 years, 10 months ago

The disabled guy must be an amputee. He's "unarmed."

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unite2revolt 5 years, 10 months ago

Guns are tools, use as appropriate.

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JLoh21 5 years, 10 months ago

OK All. Let's get to the point. The whole idea about having the freedom to own a gun is simply that is the only thing that keeps the leftists (such as bozo) from treading on me.Since I have the abilty, through owning a firearm (12 gauge pump), of rolling the first five, and more once I reload, bad guys right back down my front steps, they keep some distance. But please know that day by day they are trying to take away this inherent and natural right. But they will want to draw lots, and not pick the black bean before they come into my house. There would have been no holocaust had the European Jews all owned firearms and known how to use them.Oh yeah, since your liberal educators did not tell you, the Nazi's were leftists. National Socialism in other words.Lawrence liberals: ESAD.

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RobertMarble 5 years, 10 months ago

ah, I've reread you whine & now see the issue log. You need to scroll up and read the previous postings- the statement you're referring to has already been addressed, and similar accusations to yours already de-bunked. Try to keep up. But again, I'll repeat it for your benefit. The comments you refer to were directed towards the person's choice to curtail his freedom by "avoiding" certain areas, which lets the bad guys win, which does allow crime to flourish. That in no way is equivalent to attacking him for choosing not to carry a firearm, nor could it be reasonably misinterpeted as such. The obvious answer is that you would prefer I had said such a thing to give you a basis for ranting. Since I did not you feel the need to compensate by name calling and fabricating false interpetations. Nice try conman.

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RobertMarble 5 years, 10 months ago

log, once again I must repeat myself for those such as yourself who are unable to comprehend simple concepts....so once again, just for you: I haven't knocked anyone for choosing not to carry a firearm- that is a deliberate fabrication. I have nuked several idiots who have attacked myself and others for choosing to own firearms- and I will continue to do so. I challenge you to re-post any comment I've made that attacks someone for not carrying. Why is it that these libs can't grasp facts?

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RobertMarble 5 years, 10 months ago

log, I have no idea what you're ranting about, please be more specific. Conman? wtf are you talking about?

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compmd 5 years, 10 months ago

crazyeddie,I don't necessarily advocate the proliferation of CC, I advocate the proliferation of responsible firearm ownership and usage. It is up to each citizen whether or not they want to carry. I simply choose to from time to time, and I never make the decision lightly.Very few people I know that are not in LE carry. That's fine. However, I believe that they should at least know how to use a firearm should they find themselves in a situation where they would need to and have the opportunity. I know lots of people who are proficient in firearm use and safety even though they don't own one. All my friends know that if they want to learn pistol, rifle, or military or SMG use, I'll teach them. Several have taken me up on the offer even though they have no desire to carry. So let's say that I advocate proliferation of awareness as well. And proliferation of concealed snowshovels.

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crazyeddie 5 years, 10 months ago

Let's not confuse home defense and CC, compmd. As a CC permit holder, I would not advocate its proliferation. I respect those who do not choose as well as those who do choose to obtain a CC permit. Many, including my NRA friends, do not understand that guns also take lives (in addition to saving). One must be cautious when making a serious decision to own a firearm, let alone carry. Regardless, one must not be critical of another's choice as I believe both are positions of merit.I do think that your story is funny, though!

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compmd 5 years, 10 months ago

geekin_topekan (Anonymous) says:":See who the folks are protecting themselves daily in America"+++See,that is what I dont understand.Why do the CC licensed,would be he-men,I am invincible crowd think that because I am not armed with a hand gun and probably never will be(yes,I said probably)believe that I will not defend myself and my family?I know! Since you'll know a few hours in advance that a couple of guys are going to break into your house, you can draw up a plan and booby trap it. Put a charcoal starter on the doorknob, swing paint cans from the second floor down the stairway if they try to come to the second floor, then escape through a window on a clothesline into your treehouse, pray that your elderly neighbor can help you out since he has a concealed carry permit for his snowshovel, then after all the fame from defeating the burglars, fade from the public eye...

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gogoplata 5 years, 10 months ago

A .44 magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world so you've got to ask yourself one question: Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?

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logicsound04 5 years, 10 months ago

Why hello.....Conman.Didn't take you long to begin launching into diatribes about other posters needing medicine for PMS.How long do you think you'll be around for this time? Please note, I said "conman", nothing less, nothing more. Last time you got careless and outed yourself.Finally, I'd like to point out that no one "exploded" at the idea of law-abiding citizens having the freedom to carry a firearm. In fact, no one "exploded" at all. A few people, however, took exception to your belief that anyone who doesn't carry a firearm is contributing to criminal activity.Your words, in case you forgot: "Wow, what a great way to not only voluntarily have your personal freedom curtailed but to contribute to the success of those who would curtail it. That's a time proven tactic to letting criminals flourish- bury your head in the sand and let them have their way. Perhaps we can have a spine cloned for this individual."So for all your rambling about the "antis" destroying freedom of choice, you are the only one here who acting as if another "law-abiding citizen's" choice NOT to carry a weapon is somehow criminal in nature.

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RobertMarble 5 years, 10 months ago

Note that I have openly expressed the rightness of having freedom of choice- yet antis explode into a rabid frenzy at the thought of law abiding, good citizens having the freedom to choose to arm themselves. Yet at the same time they call others intolerant. Even worse that this must be pointed out specifically. Maybe some of them will be intelligent enough to realize the absurdity of that behavior.

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RobertMarble 5 years, 10 months ago

poop....either I've really struck a nerve or you need to switch to decaf. Either way, get over it; this is just an internet posting so no reason to have a coronary,carter...you've missed the point. I was NOT knocking the guy for refusing to carry a firearm. I don't give a crap whether someone does or not. I beleive in individual choice, and have never made a statement denigrating someone for that choice. Please re-read the statement, perhaps you honestly misunderstood it. As I said earlier, my negativity was directed to the statement which amounted to the guy being afraid to go to some areas and choosing to avoid them. He has made the choice to allow criminals to limit where he goes- and I will continue do direct negative comments towards decisions of that nature. But I would never ridicule anyone for choosing not to arm themselves. Accusing me of doing so would be even less intelligent. More typically it is the other way around- the ones who don't beleive in freedom of choice spend endless hours bashing those who do. Rather Ironic that they attempt to impugn me by reversing the tactic.

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cool 5 years, 10 months ago

no i don't believe in CCW as a good idea.guns belong at home.

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geekin_topekan 5 years, 10 months ago

Well Mand,first I will not play hero whether armed or not.I suppose faced in the situation I would have to see where my instincts take me.Other wise I can not answer that question.Secondly,me reference is merely a warning to anyone who thinks that "unarmed" means "helpless".Seen it happen and it is not pretty to think that a gun makes you invincible or is a good reason to remain in a hostile environment.Three I dont go to church.Four my son graduated KU and managed to go the Four years without a gun!Imagine!Five,my home is sacred and I dont intend to give it up without mortal combat.What is the alternative?the appeal that Bondsmen is counting on?I hope he never feels so frightened as to pull a weapon because his fear will be his motivation and a weapon will only aggravate the situation.A gun can not guarantee his survival and his righteous stance will make him his own worst enemy.

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BigAl 5 years, 10 months ago

I still feel that if anyone feels the need to carry a gun, they are making up for the lack of something else. And, I really don't much like the state deciding who can and cannot carry a gun.

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MandM 5 years, 10 months ago

"geekin_topekan (Anonymous) says: I will appeal to noone if they enter my home with anti social or violent intentions and they will pay a terrible price for doing so.I made no mention of such a plea and your belief that an unarmed person will offer you one because you have a gun will be your undoing.Seen it happen.you will lose."So geekin_topekan what will you do if you and your family are sitting in church and a gunman walks in and starts shooting people? What if you are at the mall and a gunman starts shooting people? What if you child is away at college and someone walks into their classroom and starts shooting? These are all scenerios we are too familiar with right here in the midwest in Colorado, Oklahoma and Nebraska.

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geekin_topekan 5 years, 10 months ago

I will appeal to noone if they enter my home with anti social or violent intentions and they will pay a terrible price for doing so.I made no mention of such a plea and your belief that an unarmed person will offer you one because you have a gun will be your undoing.Seen it happen.you will lose.

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bondmen 5 years, 10 months ago

Because appealing to the criminal about to foist violence your way by saying "please don't hurt me I'm not armed" just will not appeal to his higher sense of justice! That's why.

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geekin_topekan 5 years, 10 months ago

"...See who the folks are protecting themselves daily in America"+++See,that is what I dont understand.Why do the CC licensed,would be he-men,I am invincible crowd think that because I am not armed with a hand gun and probably never will be(yes,I said probably)believe that I will not defend myself and my family?

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bondmen 5 years, 10 months ago

I'll bet Eurodude doesn't live in Switzerland where the people are well armed with the finest weaponry in the world! In Britain the criminals are killing each other with firearms by the hundreds; as subjects, Brits are not allowed to own guns. Better to be a citizen than a subject! Better to be armed and free than a paragraph in the obituary column. See who the folks are protecting themselves daily in America:http://www.claytoncramer.com/gundefenseblog/blogger.html

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Daytrader23 5 years, 10 months ago

I live in Europe so I have no need for a weapon. But if I was in KS with the thug and hick cultures I might consider carrying one. But I agree with the guy from Boulder, your mind is the best weapon you have. And for those who cannot comprehend this concept I will give you a quote from Sun Tzu's Art of War "The good fighters of old first put themselves beyond the possibility of defeat, and then waited for an opportunity of defeating the enemy."

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CarterFaucheaux 5 years, 10 months ago

RobertMable - I'm glad you know so much about me. I've always been a leftist, phobic-type and indeed, I pee my bed on a regular basis. I'm so glad that you've pointed out the error of my ways. I will go buy a gun (or several) and everything will be okay. On a more serious note, I could care less if you own a thousand guns as long as you are legally licensed to do so. However, it is pretty ridiculous for you to assume that Jerreme or anyone else who decides not to own a gun is spineless and fearful. Have a good day, kiddo.

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Pywacket 5 years, 10 months ago

Poop2Scoop~ That was hilarious--and probably true down to the last detail!MD--are you a Fembot? You go, girl! They do make devastating weapons under the right circumstances, don't they? I usually have a little 2 1/2-inch-fixed-blade Case knife at my side, which (strangely enough) seems to make men nervous. I've never done anything more violent than gut a fish with it on occasion. But it's there.

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Tom Shewmon 5 years, 10 months ago

"If we're allowed to carry arms, why are the police for?"- livingstoneRevisit that notion in 10-15 years, or after 10-15 years of Obama/Soros/Dean/Pelosi style rule and see if you still think that."I'd say that the fact that you feel the need to cary a weapon on its own translates into being constantly afraid. No I don't own a gun and will never allow one in my house. I'm not so insecure to feel that I need one."-George BrazillerI don't carry a weapon most of the time. You're entitled to your position and I respect that. I tend to think I feel TOO secure, and should reconsider carrying more. It just does not strike me to have to pack all the time. Again, a right that I have and can exercise if needed, like in the event of a new, young, inexperienced, leftist, freaked out president that has the military patrolling my streets because terrorists have done (fill in the blank) and feels it's easier to control the citizens than the real threat. Again, you're opinions are respected by me and I hope your situation works out well for you in the event of the need to arm yourself.

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George_Braziller 5 years, 10 months ago

"How does carrying a weapon or protecting yourself translate to fear or being constantly afraid?"-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I'd say that the fact that you feel the need to cary a weapon on its own translates into being constantly afraid. No I don't own a gun and will never allow one in my house. I'm not so insecure to feel that I need one.

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MandM 5 years, 10 months ago

livingstone, my instructor was a police officer. He repeated a phrase I'ver heard from several sources........ when seconds count, they police are only minutes away. Think of those at Virginia Tech who had to wait for the police, or the church shootings in Colorado, the mall in Omaha. The police can't be everywhere.

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Sean Livingstone 5 years, 10 months ago

To those who said things against those who don't want to bear arms: Look closer at yourself. If everyone carries arm, and use it when they think is appropriate, then we'll have a civil war in this country. I don't carry arms, so what if you have one? By the time someone gets to you, you will be killed before you can even pull the trigger. If we're allowed to carry arms, why are the police for?

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Tom Shewmon 5 years, 10 months ago

How does carrying a weapon or protecting yourself translate to fear or being constantly afraid? I have my permit and carry sometimes, sometimes not. I know I have it and I know when I choose to exercise my right, it's there for me, other than that, in my nightstand. Dog barks, I awake, assess the situation, shoot and kill perp. Simple. Don't want to, but reality is hard to sort out for some, some not.

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EasyTiger 5 years, 10 months ago

Somebody drop RobertMarble smack in the middle of South Los Angeles or South Chicago, or central KCMO for that matter. Gun or no gun, I bet the little loud mouthed punk would last about 10 seconds. Are you a tough guy lil' Robert? You got a big gun, huh? It's easy to talk tough over the internet, but I'm guessing you're more afraid than anyone else who's posted here.

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poop2scoop 5 years, 10 months ago

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bondmen 5 years, 10 months ago

I drive one - it's 3,000 pounds of steel and plastic with a steering wheel and accelerator! Why? It takes me where I'm going and gets me there safely.Oh, and my weapon - it's too big to conceal!

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RETICENT_IRREVERENT 5 years, 10 months ago

Do you carry a weapon?I was carrying a 24" pipe wrench this morning. Why or why not?Because those dang lift arm links can be quite a challenge at timeScore: tractor =0, R_I =1.

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denak 5 years, 10 months ago

David Kiser is right. Your mind is your best weapon. You have to be aware of your enviroment and to use your head. If you are a woman, and you are out walking, you need to be aware of the people around you. Don't listen to music. Don't walk at dusk or early morning, don't always use the same path, don't put your hair in a ponytail.(Rapist like to grab them and pull you down by it.) Avoid trouble spots. This isn't letting people(or criminal) dictate your steps. This is being sensible. Don't walk down a dark alley in the middle of the night. Use the lighted pathways. Don't go home with a guy or gal you just met in a bar. If you are female, don't drink with a bunch of guys even if they are your "good buddies." A lot of crimes won't happen if people are more aware of their environment and avoid situations that will make them a victim. This isn't a situation where I am blaming the victim but sometimes, people make their own problems and if people were a little more aware of the potential (like mixing alcohol with weapons) these crimes/problems can be avoided.Dena

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geekin_topekan 5 years, 10 months ago

No for one simple reason.Un-armed,Un-afraid.OK thats Two simple reasons.

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RobertMarble 5 years, 10 months ago

wow carter, you've demonstrated the capability to take a lame attempt at an insult- great progress kiddo. Now try to add some actual meaning or content.The anti gun fruits are definitely making themselves known here; it sure doesn't take much to get them in a snit. If you phobic types are so frightened you should probably find yourselves someplace safer, perhaps a padded cell. Face it, Americans own firearms. Not just the criminals that you lib types seem to enjoy coddling so much but also law abiding, productive citizens. If that throws you people into a tantrum, tough luck. Guns are a part of American culture and crying about it on the JW threads is unlikely to change that. It's always interesting to see how leftists and their ilk shoot their mouths off against intolerance, discrimination, etc all day long- but the second someone mentions something contrary to their rhetoric they'll be the first to degenerate into cheap insults...oh, by the way carter I don't have a gun. I have numerous guns- that kind of goes along with the territory of being a collector. Hopefully the idea of a free citizen having access to all those "horrible evil firearms" won't have you peeing your bed for too long. Besides, since I live roughly 1500 miles way you won't have to worry about being protected by me. It's all up to you kiddo.

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RobertMarble 5 years, 10 months ago

benny- please re-read my posting; I read nothing into his viewpoint. I am merely addressing one aspect of a single statement. That aspect is the idea of having to avoid any area where he has every right to go. It's that simple. While my reply may put the panties of firearms phobic liberals in a twist, I made no comments which should create so much misguided animosity to an individual who is capable of even nominal reading comprehension.

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RobertMarble 5 years, 10 months ago

poop....your alias speaks for itself. If you'd care to engage in a reasoned debate on the subject I'd gladly oblige. But your 3rd grade level name calling and obvious sniveling doesn't cut it. Go get some midol & a tampon, and quit being such an uptight idiot.

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Flap Doodle 5 years, 10 months ago

Okay, I had one leg hollowed out and carry an 81mm mortar. Nothing wrong with that. BTW, MD, the "kill with a muffin" line was also used by Bruce Campbell in an episode of the Hercules TV show. I think he may used an apricot, tho......

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CarterFaucheaux 5 years, 10 months ago

lawrence is safe, everyone!robertmable has a gun and he will stop crime from flourishing!also, he can clone spines! robertmable the superhero, stem-cell scientist, and proud firearm owner!

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Multidisciplinary 5 years, 10 months ago

Not as dangerous as they used to be, someone appreciates them.Of course still a threat...someone might trip!I also have to avoid updrafts. It's hard to explain the black eyes.

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JLoh21 5 years, 10 months ago

Damn tough to kill game without a weapon. So I actually carry a loaded weapon. During season that is.

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cool 5 years, 10 months ago

multi -- those must be big knockers !YES, they could work as weapons ----under the right circumstances......

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Multidisciplinary 5 years, 10 months ago

Thanks a lot snap..now I'm trying to remember where that came from. Monty Python comes to mind, but I can't find it.

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logicsound04 5 years, 10 months ago

":..So in other words, you let fear determine your steps?"-----------------No moreso than anyone who feels the need to carry a weapon to be "protected".

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Boston_Corbett 5 years, 10 months ago

anyone who refers to another person as a 'soft target' should probably not be allowed to pack heat.

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Multidisciplinary 5 years, 10 months ago

I was told once that I should put red warning flags on two body parts because they stuck out so far, they were dangerous.Does that count?And frankly, if anyone else would carry them for me, it would be a relief.

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le 5 years, 10 months ago

Damn skippy..why would i leave my gun at home only to arrive and find the burglar in my home with my gun in his hand...screw that ..their will be a gunfight at the L.E. corral if anyone is in my space!P.S. i realize my comments are not being posted cuz ljw is fraudulently posting my comments on my computer only...and have been leading me to believe they are posting them..and I intend to sue on mine and the publics behalf...shame on you ljw..the computer guy or gal that did this to me at ljw and Dolph for allowing the em[loyees to do this to me ! It very well is happening to others and could happen to you next! Also i am sure the topeka paper and the K.C. star would jump all over this story of a newspaper abusing my 1st amendment rights without notifing me about it for one..but as well the worst part is that they have lead me to believe my voice has been heard the last 3 or 4 months..I have video proof that it shows up only on my computer and my comments are not showing up on any other computer i have checked! Shame on you ljw!

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Flap Doodle 5 years, 10 months ago

There are numerous ways to kill a man using only a bran muffin.

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bennyoates 5 years, 10 months ago

These people on the street haven't designated themselves as soft targets. But some of their critics on this board have left no doubt that they are paranoids with delusions of grandeur who've gone soft in the head. Congratulations, you carry guns. Or, you may not carry one and you like to keep all the crooks guessing. Congratulations again, you Harry Callahan wannabes. If it makes you feel safer, fine. If others don't feel safer because of your choice to carry--and I wouldn't blame them--too damn bad!

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poop2scoop 5 years, 10 months ago

RobertMarble--- your response reveals that you are a categorical idiot. You are likely one of those "loud-mouth, tough guy, bully types" that provokes trouble with people that are physically smaller than you. Your are probably well known for telling other people that you are a real bad-a$$. However, in reality the people that know you regard you as a wind-bag.

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bennyoates 5 years, 10 months ago

being disabled is neither a job nor an identity. (If it doesn't show up as such, I wrote that in all caps.) That actually makes me a little bit mad.--------------------------------------------------------------------------So you're a little mad that the guy chooses to define himself as he sees fit? What're you going to do, hold your breath until you turn blue?

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bennyoates 5 years, 10 months ago

"No, I don't own any sort of weapons, because I don't feel the need for one, and I avoid places that could put me in harm's way.":..So in other words, you let fear determine your steps? Considering the fact that you must take care to avoid places your delicate sensibilities have identified as potentially dangerous, you have allowed criminals to dictate your movements. Wow, what a great way to not only voluntarily have your personal freedom curtailed but to contribute to the success of those who would curtail it. That's a time proven tactic to letting criminals flourish- bury your head in the sand and let them have their way. Perhaps we can have a spine cloned for this individual.++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++You read an awful lot into this man's perspective. And everything you say makes you sound defensive because the man has dared not to share your amazingly stupid viewpoint that anyone who isn't packing heat is letting crime flourish. Perhaps you're one of those people who considers himself one of the guardians of individual liberties against the encroachment of the awful federal government. Well, I have a lot of problems with our government, but if people like you are the alternative, no thanks. Don't worry about the man's spine--I think it takes a lot more courage to have his attitude than yours, and you should work on getting a brain instead of talking about his lack of backbone.

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Devon Kissinger 5 years, 10 months ago

Criminals, look closely, the 4 people above have just designated themselves as soft targets. Does the LJW really expect that anyone they asked this question of would respond truthfully? I'm walking down 23rd st. and some clown asks me if I'm carrying. The truth would be yes, the answer would be something along the lines of mind your own business. No one but me needs to know or will know that I am carrying.

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RobertMarble 5 years, 10 months ago

"No, I don't own any sort of weapons, because I don't feel the need for one, and I avoid places that could put me in harm's way.".....So in other words, you let fear determine your steps? Considering the fact that you must take care to avoid places your delicate sensibilities have identified as potentially dangerous, you have allowed criminals to dictate your movements. Wow, what a great way to not only voluntarily have your personal freedom curtailed but to contribute to the success of those who would curtail it. That's a time proven tactic to letting criminals flourish- bury your head in the sand and let them have their way. Perhaps we can have a spine cloned for this individual.

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1wetwilly 5 years, 10 months ago

"Generally, I don't carry a weapon, because I don't need to. Your mind is the best weapon" ---David Kiser, disabled, Boulder, Colo.What does that mean? Is it profound or whacked-out?

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sgtwolverine 5 years, 10 months ago

BEING DISABLED IS NEITHER A JOB NOR AN IDENTITY. (If it doesn't show up as such, I wrote that in all caps.) That actually makes me a little bit mad.Anyway, let me use the obvious joke now: of course I carry a weapon! My hands are with me at all times!

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