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Have you ever watched Mixed Martial Arts?
Asked at Massachusetts Street on July 7, 2008
“Once at a friend’s house. He loves it, but it’s not for me.”
“Actually I have. I thought it was really exciting. I think it’s really cool to see what they are capable of and which martial art works best in each situation.”
“Absolutely, all the time. I actually sell sports equipment for MMA, so I might be a little bit biased, but I think it’s probably about where NASCAR was 10 years ago. As long as they play their cards right, it should be huge.”
“I have seen it a couple times. I thought it was interesting that they would want to compete in something so dangerous with so few rules. But I might watch it again just to see how crazy those guys are.”
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7 July 2008
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blue73harley (Anonymous) says…
No, I would rather watch a “real” sport like lady midget wrestling.
7 July 2008
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snap_pop_no_crackle (Anonymous) says…
It's like pokemon but with people, right?
7 July 2008
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jonas (Anonymous) says…
snap: More like Dragonball Z with non-animated characters, if you ask me. Waiting for the first guy to power-up to Super Saiyajin.
7 July 2008
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killjoy (Anonymous) says…
No, but if I ever get a lobotomy, I might.
7 July 2008
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scott_webb (Anonymous) says…
Will it be on the WTC (White Trash Channel)?Sorry, I don't get that one
7 July 2008
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The_Original_Bob (Anonymous) says…
Scott -Yes, it actually is on the WTC (Versus). I ran across it a couple months ago. Two grown men hugging for a few minutes on the mat. I soon changed the channel and haven't been back.
7 July 2008
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consumer1 (Anonymous) says…
Great, for fourty five years I have been suppressing the instinct to fight and hurt other people. Now, violence has become “trendy”. Being a savage has become a novelty, I hope. It is pretty frightening to think we have come full circle to the point where people need to be entertained by the brutal savagery of violence. What is next?? Feed innocent people to the “caged lions”??? This disgust me but doesn't surprise me. We are a violent society and it is just getting worse. How Sad.
7 July 2008
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RETICENT_IRREVERENT (Anonymous) says…
Have you ever watched Mixed Marital Arts?No, and you can just keep your filth and porn.
7 July 2008
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conservativepunker (Anonymous) says…
Only if the type is Rex Kwan Do
7 July 2008
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consumer1 (Anonymous) says…
Yeah Robert what a bunch of wussies, These people who think violence is a bad thing. So, then there are people like you who are nothing more than a stain in a pair of underwear who “have no interest in sports”, but live vicariously through the viloence of others, because you are so uptight and unable to define your own “lack of masulenity”, But boy don't you feel tough when you talk the trash in your secret identity on the web.. Whooo hoo you are a real (one dinensional man) I am scared just writing back to you, you might give me a real arse whuppin, on your blog… I bet you smell like fish for a few days every month.
7 July 2008
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consumer1 (Anonymous) says…
As a matter of Fact Robert, I'll bet you idolize that woman beater Matthew from Chicago. He really show his small framed little girl friend what a tough guy he was.
7 July 2008
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sunflower_sue (Anonymous) says…
RobertMarble says: “Perfect examples of intolerant, small minded people! Curb the sniveling arrogance, girls.” Spoken like a true, intolerant, small minded sexist pig!Have I watched mixed martial arts? Um, I've seen all 4 “Karate Kid” movies. That count?
7 July 2008
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whiskeysour (Anonymous) says…
I have to admit, I am a fan, at least of the UFC and some of the more established and organized promotions. I certainly don't fit into the category so articulately described as “white trash”. I'm well educated - having earned a master's degree and now working on a PhD - self sufficient, and a productive member of society. It seems that most on this board, and probably throughout society miss understand or willfully ignore the commonality between mixed martial arts and other established sports and activities within society. Broadly speaking, this type of knee jerk reaction to mixed martial arts willfully ignores violence in all facets of acceptable societal activity. This is especially true of activities such as football and wrestling, popular among youth participants and adult fans, which rely upon physical domination of another. Wrestling certainly has long historical roots, going back to ancient Greece and more than likely beyond.More specifically, the commentator who described “violence as trendy” and somehow indicative of a degradation of American culture clearly does not understand the long history of prize fighting (boxing) going back well into the 19th century. Perhaps, if I should be so cavalier as to recommend a bit of a history lesson, a reading of Elliott Gorn's “Manly Art: Bare- knuckle Prize Fighting in America” which to summarize, details the use of prize fighting by lower classes to assert masculine identity within society, might illuminate just how enduring physical tests of strength are in American life. Even prior to American society, physical tests of strength which pitted two contestants against one another have long been staged. Moreover, the label of “two grown men hugging” or do not accurately describe mixed martial arts. Participants utilize a variety of techniques to “control the octagon” and strike their opponent including jujitsu, muay thai boxing, judo, and traditional boxing and kickboxing. Certainly wrestling and grappling are present, but only as one available aspect of the sport. In an Olympic year it is ironic that mixed marital arts is being criticized because almost all components are themselves individual Olympic events: wrestling, judo, and boxing. Before the participants are themselves degraded, I think it would behoove everyone to understand who they are as individuals without making blanket generalizations something that this forum unfortunately is notorious for. In this regard, I would point people to http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008… which demonstrates that many mixed martial artists left full time, well paying careers to pursue fighting full time. They are not, you'll find, “white trash” men without other options of providing for themselves.
7 July 2008
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The_Original_Bob (Anonymous) says…
“Moreover, the label of “two grown men hugging” or do not accurately describe mixed martial arts.” WhiskeysourYou can throw me in the category of willfully ignorant about MMA, but I'm just telling you what I saw for the short time I watched it that day.
7 July 2008
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fu7il3 (Anonymous) says…
There is a science to the grappling arts that a lot of people don't appreciate. Injuries to the brain are less severe in general than occur regularly in boxing. If people took time to understand MMA and grappling as a sport in general, they would find that the athletes are among the most skilled and well-conditioned athletes in the world.
7 July 2008
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Multidisciplinary (Anonymous) says…
I don't recall having seen it. I may have when flipping channels. I will no longer blanket-reject each show title I think would not interest me. I'm not a 'ninja' fan. There is a show on G4 called Ninja Warrior, that I totally ignored. I found fun in Unbeatable Banzuke .. a short-courses game show using different backyard kid skills..pogo stick, handwalking, unicycles, etc.. like cheering for a neighbor to win.,.good clean fun! One day I didn't switch when the “Ninja Warrior” came on. No kidding, it's more exciting than the Olympics. No fighting.. just a test of skills course requiring shear strength and dexterity.. you sit on the edge of your seat hoping they don't fail! What these people can do is beyond human.The best lately? The 20th sansuke.. and guess who won? The American Free Runner! Woo Hoo!Both shows are rated G and suitable for kids.
7 July 2008
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fu7il3 (Anonymous) says…
I watched a Ninja Warrior marathon one day. I watched it for hours. I couldn't get enough. It's like Jackie Chan gave birth to a game show.
7 July 2008
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Multidisciplinary (Anonymous) says…
And then..during the whole show..these people have more social graces and good sportsmanship..far above Western behavior. A good influence for all I think.
7 July 2008
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rumor_man (Anonymous) says…
If there were women who were in mud or oil, I might watch it once in a while. Until then….
7 July 2008
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ms_canada (Anonymous) says…
No, and don't think I ever will. Oh, by the way, I believe someone has a birthday today and I want to be the first to wish her the very best birthday yet. happy birthday, ceallach, and many more. Way to go girl and you make sure the gang takes you out for a great meal!!!!!!!
7 July 2008
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sunflower_sue (Anonymous) says…
Happy birthday Ceal!!! Wooooo Hoooooo! (My nephew's b.day also)
7 July 2008
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prospector (Anonymous) says…
Only when I can't help myself. Kind of like not wanting to goose neck at a car wreck but I do anyway. I prefer raslin'. These guys don't jump off the turnbuckles or get to use chairs. Usually, nobody gets hurt.Don't forget your titanium cop piece!
7 July 2008
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ms_canada (Anonymous) says…
prospector - should that be codpiece???????
7 July 2008
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prospector (Anonymous) says…
Arg, Yes ma'am!!
7 July 2008
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emily_litella (Anonymous) says…
I think its fine if people with mixed marriages want to create or appreciate art. What the problem with that?
7 July 2008
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jumpin_catfish (Anonymous) says…
kimberly likes 'em crazy
7 July 2008
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sgtwolverine (Anonymous) says…
Ninja Warrior is hilarious and remarkable; I highly recommend it.
7 July 2008
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Gootsie (Anonymous) says…
er, no. Not with exciting reality shows on, like life with Tori or the Lohans or the one WWF guy with the blonde hair and the divorcing wife?I don't watch those either.Happy Birthday Ceal!'prospector, our mutual lady friend that we've discussed had a birthday this weekend. Go figure!
7 July 2008
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beatrice (Anonymous) says…
I prefer the reality of professional wrestling. psssttt, somebody ask Robert Marble about his guns. He loves his guns, his guns, hissssgunns, hissss precious. (Could that be where he gets his bravado?)
7 July 2008
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Ceallach (Anonymous) says…
Thank ya, thank ya, thank ya! Having a great day. No work, spa manicure this morning, lunch at First Watch, and a ticket to visit mother and sibs in the Rio Grande Valley. Don't even have to drive through Waco :) Woo Hoo!As for the question, no I haven't watched MMA and I don't care for boxing or wrestling (televised that is).
7 July 2008
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Multidisciplinary (Anonymous) says…
Happy Birthday Cellach!You might bring back some cowboys for susiecreamcheese and ronda.
7 July 2008
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Gootsie (Anonymous) says…
ha ha Emily! I finally got it.Your comment reminds me of one of the parts of the Mr. Obvious Show!
7 July 2008
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Multidisciplinary (Anonymous) says…
this stuff is criminal!The dishwasher..slow start, but for good reason.(shakes head, realizes there are a lot of Mr. Obvious youtubes to see)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3A33w-P0js
7 July 2008
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Multidisciplinary (Anonymous) says…
oh no..skip the previous one.This one is a riot!Greatest prank call.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5z4Vs26-TI&feature=related
7 July 2008
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RobertMarble (Anonymous) says…
HAHAHA……that really got the low intellect crowd stirred up. Consumer, in addition to failing the IQ test you failed reading comprehension as well. I clearly stated I don't watch the stuff- my point was merely slap the whiners down for knocking those who did. Instead you throw a tantrum about wifebeaters? You'd better switch to decaf, kiddo.
7 July 2008
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RobertMarble (Anonymous) says…
oh hi beatrice! You're still whining about the firearms issue? Sheesh, that thread was weeks ago- why carrying such a grudge? With all that bedwetting you must be changing your linen twice a night.
7 July 2008
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The_Original_Bob (Anonymous) says…
Bobby Marble gots some issues.
7 July 2008
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monkeywrench1969 (Anonymous) says…
It is very clear people still have the mind set to badmouth things they don't understand. Fighting in the ring in many ways is the closest to testing your skills as a fighter without doing something illegal and potentially get arrested for “testing yourself.” Most people in every type of sport or activity have some way to test or compete against each other. If you fight you do point sparring, forms competions with and without weapons and breaking of boards. Many forget before the times of liability most martial arts had a form of heavy fighting or challange matches to see if you could measure up or went school against school. It is interestingly enough in the first Olympic games at its conception they had a competion known as Pancrase in mordern circles which was the first MMA event which included strikes and grappling and in some cases ended in severe injury and/or death of one of the competitors. Now most would say the Greeks were the great scholars and creators of everything that is great. I don't think they had any trailers around the temples back then. Even today Pro wrestling was affected by liability. Much of what you see in the WWE came from a very brutal form of wrestling called Catch as Catch Can wrestling which had many of the same holds and submissions as Brazilian Jiujitsu but was defeintiely geared more for street fighting. Around the time of the early 1900s, they had been holding catch prize fights and someone said “hey we could make more money at the county fairs and other expos by having the same guys fight with a set winner and plan the whole fight without the good fighters getting injured all the time.” Hence WWF WWE etc.
8 July 2008
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Bone777 (Anonymous) says…
MMA is a true combat sport. Anyone who really wants to watch a sport where there is usually a definitive winner and loser, this is the sport for you.
8 July 2008
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monkeywrench1969 (Anonymous) says…
Fu7If you have checked out Fight Science on National Geographic channel they support your point that the elite MMA fights are some of the most fit skilled fighters in the world. A very good episode:http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/series/fight-science/all/Overview
8 July 2008
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fu7il3 (Anonymous) says…
I haven't seen it, but I'll definately be looking into it. Thanks for the heads up.
8 July 2008
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Gootsie (Anonymous) says…
Multi, I am so glad you are a Bob and Tom fan. I love their stuff, and think the prank caller one is great. I didn't realize they were all on YouTube! Thank you!!!
10 July 2008
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gogoplata (Anonymous) says…
I love MMA. But not as much as the original Ultimate Fighting Championship with no rounds, no judges, no time limits, and very few rules.