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If Barack Obama becomes the Democratic nominee, do you think he can win Kansas?

Asked at Borders, 700 N.H. on January 30, 2008

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“I think he has a great chance in Douglas County, and I think any Democratic candidate has a better chance in Kansas than they did before.”

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“I don’t know. There are a lot of factors to consider, but I doubt it. It will be a nice surprise if he does.”

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“No, I don’t think it’s possible. When was the last time Kansas ever went to a Democrat in the presidential election?”

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“Unfortunately, I don’t. I just think Kansas is too conservative. It could surprise me, but I don’t think so.”


Sigmund 10 years, 4 months ago

Jaun McCain es muy, muy bueno! Jaun McCain para el Presidente!

hawklet21 10 years, 4 months ago

Can ANY democratic nominee win Kansas? :-/

ksdivakat 10 years, 4 months ago

I would be surprised if a dem could win ks, but then again, most americans are sick of the republicans and bushcos favor ratings suck, so if its ever gonan happen, this would be the time it most likely could! It would be great to see it, but we are in the bible belt so I have my doubts.

trinity 10 years, 4 months ago

good question, hawklet. as long as it is not hillbillary, i continue to hope.

ontheotherhand 10 years, 4 months ago

Wow, I am sorry that so many of you guys had a bad experience when Bill Clinton was in office. Me? I rather enjoyed 8 years of no war, no big scale Homeland Security crap, etc. I am still waiting for someone to tell me what was bad about '93 to '01. Aside from the fact that Bill was a total idiot for messing around with an intern (but then again, from where I sit, this seems to be a problem with many male politicians on both sides of the isle--what is it with politics and infidelity and men??), I did not see major problems with his presidency. Can someone help me out, here? And could you tell me how the event that you list is worse than what is going on with our current administration? Just curious . . .

Richard Heckler 10 years, 4 months ago

Yes. If the man cab draw a large voter turnout. When large numbers turn out to vote Lawrence gets better city commissioners,state representatives and moderate people for Washington D.C.

The more voters the better for all.

alm77 10 years, 4 months ago

I don't understand why people say he couldn't. We have a Dem for a governor and she endorsed him. Why wouldn't the same people who put her in office, vote for him too? I've talked to a lot of people who like him. Especially moderates and especially independents, which I think more and more people are becoming.

Daytrader23 10 years, 4 months ago

I love how everybody talks about how corrupt the Clintons were, but fail to see the the atrocities of the Bush admin. Dick the former CEO of haliburton, now has his pipeline through Afghanistan that he always wanted and the Iraq oil fields to boot, and it only cost us Americans 500 billion dollars and a few thousand lives. But damm those corrupt Clintons making a million or two on real estate. How dare them. Quit being sheep and stop watching Fox.

werekoala 10 years, 4 months ago

He's got the best shot at it, that's for sure. Hell, we've got a Democratic governor, so Kansas can go blue. All depends on who/how the Republicans campaign against him.

Hillary's got a better shot at winning the lottery.

dajudge 10 years, 4 months ago

That Atkeisson engineer gets my vote. And she's cute, too, especially when chocolate is involved. No, Obama bin Laden can't win. His name is too cnfusing. Barack Osama, Obama? Hmmm.....

pbusby 10 years, 4 months ago

for the sake of this country, you better pray he wins!!

BigPrune 10 years, 4 months ago

I'm trying to figure out why Hussein Obama is so great. Frankly, I don't care for the Democrats or the Republicans. The candidates they have running collectively aren't very good. I also don't like Ron Paul "The New Revolution." That guy doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning the Republican ticket. Hillary is too co-dependent for my liking and her husband's presidency was one of the most corrupt in 200 years. Obama has the Muslim name connection plus he is from Illinois, one of the most corrupt states in the union. McCain scares me since he was in a Vietnamese prison camp having bamboo shoved under his fingernails for 7 years - that has got to affect someone's mindset, plus he dumped on his wife, who stood by his side while he was held captive, and ran off with a blonde hottie after his return.

Huckabee is a preacher, and Romney is a Mormon - they scare me as well.

The candidates pretty much ALL suck. Too bad. Not much to choose from, but I will not stay home come election day. I'll figure something out.

jonas 10 years, 4 months ago

"No, Obama bin Laden can't win. His name is too cnfusing. Barack Osama, Obama? Hmmm:.."

Sigh. . . . . .

ontheotherhand 10 years, 4 months ago

Blue and T_O_B: Ok, I acknowledge your comments (although I was responding to the fact that someone used the term "hillbillie." To me, that implies Hill and Bill). Still, no one has ventured to tell me why Hillary is a itch and She-Devil. Why are strong men called great leaders while strong women are called iches? Do we really have so few role models? Can someone tell me what policies Clinton has supported which qualifies her as a *itch? I'm talking about policies, and not superficial crap such as the way she wears her hair or hold her microphone.

ontheotherhand 10 years, 4 months ago

BigPrune, did you REALLY state that Clinton's presidency was the most corrupt in 200 years? OMG! You must have been spending the last 8 years in a cave because, let me tell you, this current administration trumps any corruption we will see in a very long time. Please, while you are at it, can you state HOW Clinton's presidency was more corrupt than Bush's?

ontheotherhand 10 years, 4 months ago

Thanks, TOBob. I agree with you. And the person who said Obama won't win because of his name is probably correct. It's amazing to me how superficial our nation is. I guess that's the price of freedom (I'm glad for the freedom, not so glad for the rampant superficiality). Still, I sure wish more people would place more importance on the presidency. The daily posts I see here amount to little more than a popularity contest. It reminds me of those silly elections we had in high school: Vote for me for president and you'll get hamburgers everyday! Don't vote for her because she sleeps around. Vote for me because even though I have no leadership skills whatsoever, I can superficially assure you that I will make our high school The Best!

pomegranate 10 years, 4 months ago

That word is Hillbillary, not hillbillie. I did not post it this time, but have before, and use the term a lot.

BigDog 10 years, 4 months ago


I agree with you but not for the reasons you may think. I agree that we are very superficial and style over substance is very apparent this year in the presidential politics. People have been supporting him based on his great speeches but if you ask what his policies or history on issues .... most cannot tell you a thing.

Obama who is a masterful speaker, talks about change with little substance or history of creating change. This man is seen to be a leader and going to change America for the better .... yet in his time in Washington he has been unable to lead the charge to get any significant legislation passed.

McCain an okay speaker, not great. Can talk about what he has done in Washington, where he has been a leader. But he has also started to sell people on being conservative, yet much of his positions in recent years would not support that view.

I guess in both cases, their speeches are selling people versus anyone looking at what they have actually done in their careers or positions they have taken.

ontheotherhand 10 years, 4 months ago

wow, r_t. You pretty much summed up my argument re: superficial. The Web site you give is so trite. I am sorry: Whitewater, Lewinski--these are not things that I am happy about with the Clinton Administration, and it certainly wasn't perfect. But I can only tell you that I greatly preferred it to Haliburton, Patriot Act, Homeland Security, and the fear I now have of flying out of the country. You can make all of the superficial comments that you want about "The Left," but I am not into soundbites and popularity contests like you seem to enjoy. I READ the news as it happens, while the people are saying it. I don't wait for the soundbite from Rush L or Fox News or CNN or The Wash Post. And I can tell you that from what I read and hear our leaders say, our U.S. situation is much more serious, more dire, than the silly little "it's the left's fault" comments that you like to make. I am not a RIGHT thinker or a LEFT thinker. I merely THINK. (Some of the other posters think, too.) I think you might be a smart person. I would prefer that you say something of substance. For starters, can you tell us all at least two things you think Bush has done wrong during his administration? And can your response reflect intelligence as opposed to the superficial "popularity contest" drivel I have been talking about all day? And please don't resort to the name-calling you tend to do when you feel threatened. I am asking you these questions with all sincerity.

ontheotherhand 10 years, 4 months ago

You have never called me names because I usually ask you not to when I ask you to clarify something. But you use terms like loony left--that is not a popular soundbite. You always call americorps "americorpse." You even refer to the Clintons as "white trash," which floors me. I was hoping to finally hear some intelligence from you (2nd paragraph), but then you had to follow it up with superficial drivel (3rd paragraph). I guess that sells. . . I just don't know how to do it.

ontheotherhand 10 years, 4 months ago

Dirty, Thanks for your comments. I am sorry that my comments make you think I believe the Clintons should be considered for sainthood. This is incorrect. I don't think that any presidency is perfect. This current administration just amazes me. At least for all his flaws, Clinton's big redeeming quality to me (and this is just how I feel) is that we had a budget SURPLUS under is reign. We cannot say this now. The thing is, Bill Clinton's personal life became public, and a lot of people did not like what they saw. I'm cool with that. But the guy was good at running the country. He could run my business any day of the week. Would I let him near my teen-aged daughter? Maybe not. :) George Bush, on the other hand, would never be allowed my business. I am basing this on how he has run this presidency to the ground (in my opinion).

No matter who becomes the next president, we should all be vocally critical of his/her missteps whether the president is a republican or democrat. Let's stop treating the presidency like a team sport!

sgtwolverine 10 years, 4 months ago

I think we should vote in a cylon for president. Then the "they're only human!" argument wouldn't be valid.

Kookamooka 10 years, 4 months ago

Let's get a three for one deal. If you vote for Hillary you get Bill AND Chelsea! The Dem's are amazingly lucky to have two awesome candidates to choose from. I don't have a preference. I'll take either. Hopefully they'll chose the other for V.P. and then we'll get BOTH!! YEEEE HAAAAAA!

GretchenJP 10 years, 4 months ago

I hope so. I trust Barack. I don't trust Hillary.

busymom 10 years, 4 months ago

So , after reading all of these posts, what was the topic of the question again? Clintons? Bush? Scrolls up, oh yeah Barack Obama.

OldEnuf2BYurDad 10 years, 4 months ago

If McCain gets the nomination, I go with McCain. If McCain doesn't get it, then I go with Obama. If neither Obama nor McCain are on either ticket, I vote for anyone who's name doesn't rhyme with "Billary" (green party nut-cases also excluded).

average 10 years, 4 months ago

It's not that the 90s weren't pretty good. Surely in retrospect. I appreciate the budget work. I appreciate Ruth Bader Ginsberg and Stephen Breyer. Obviously the biggest obstacle to doing something about health care came from Congress.

But, I don't think Bill stood nearly firm enough on things like health care, jobs (trade is one thing, but unfettered trade with nations without environmental or workers' protections hurts us more), media consolidation, or gay rights (triangulated to Don't Ask, signed DOMA). But, his inability to get much done (the '94 election) has plenty to do with the Clintons' polarizing stature. It sucks to react to perceived reactions, but Sen. Clinton on the ticket will not be good for Democratic candidates like Rep. Boyda. Am I sure Obama will be more effective? No. But I hope for more. I don't see four more years of Clinton doing what eight could not.

Barack is inspiring a generation in civic discourse. This is a good thing, period. Senator Clinton can hopefully go on and become a much more useful Senate Majority Leader than Harry Reid has been.

JohnBrown 10 years, 4 months ago

If McCain and O'Bama are the candidates the country may recover from W's excesses and incompetences. If its Romney vs Clinton, I may not vote for either.

McCain offers honor and integrity, and he's a veteran. O'Bama offers hope. Hillary offers Bill, and more gridlock. Romney offers us what? The man has changed his tune too many time to know what he brings, and more gridlock.

To everyone: presidents don't manage the economy. Ron Paul is correct in saying that the economy runs by itself, but presidents, (such as GWB and the republicans overspending by trillions) can ruin it. As for the great economy of the 90's, that wasn't Bill's doing, it was a coincidence that he was president during the silicon revolution, nothing more.

Give me honor and integrity, or hope.

preebo 10 years, 4 months ago


While I agree with most, if not 99%, of your previous comment. I will say this, while William Jefferson Clinton's Presidency happened to coincide with the Tech Boom of the 90's it was his administrations policies that balanced the budget and left us with the surplus. It was George W. Bush who thought that money would be better served in the hands of the people so we all got $300 checks. answer the original question posted, I believe if McCain is the Republican nominee and Obama is it for the Democrats then he might have a shot. Remember, he (McCain) doesn't have the arsenal that recent Republican candidates have had. For the right to choose, pro gun control, and don't forget the immigration issue. Given all these views it seems like a pretty level playing field.

Mkh 10 years, 4 months ago

ontheotherhand (Anonymous) says:

"Wow, I am sorry that so many of you guys had a bad experience when Bill Clinton was in office. Me? I rather enjoyed 8 years of no war, no big scale Homeland Security crap, etc"

No Wars? Hardly, the military-industrial complex was Very busy during the Clinton years.

No Homeland Security crap?
Obviously you weren't protesting the WTO on the streets of Seattle in 1999.

Now can Obama win Kansas? Extremely doubtful. Of course there is no telling who Kansas will vote for since there is no true conservative in the race besides Ron Paul, and Kansas tradionally votes very conservative, that all could change however.

PlainsMan2008 10 years, 4 months ago

I like Obama too, but .... I grew up in the great plains. My uncle grew up in El Dorado, KS. I saw where Obama visited El Dorado a few days ago. The news said it was his first time there, and that his (white) grandfather was raised there. I was wondering why Obama went all the way to Kenya ten years ago to look up the relatives of his father (who deserted the family when he was a little kid), but he never made it to El Dorado to research the background and relatives of the man who raised him to adulthood until the eve of the caucus. I was kind of offended by this passage from his book: "Dreams from my Father" at page 15: "escape from the empty, dust-ridden plains, where big plans mean a job as a bank manager and entertainment means an ice-cream soda and a Sunday matinee, where fear and lack of imagination choke your dreams so that you already know on the day that you're born just where you'll die and who it is that'll bury you." He was talking about Wichita and El Dorado.
Now, in my home town, which is near El Dorado, some of my friends are plumbers, plasterers, and, yes, even a bank manager. I don't see their lives on the plains as some kind of sad, ridiculous joke. So, while I like Obama a lot. I just don't think he has any real respect for people in the great plains. John McCain comes a lot closer to my kind of man.

Sigmund 10 years, 4 months ago

Yo mucho quiero Juan McCain para el grande Presidente!

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