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Do you have a tattoo, and if so, what inspired it?

Asked at Massachusetts Street on September 4, 2007

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Photo of Bobby Rad

“I have a bunch of them. This is my favorite one; it’s a pirate ship. (It was inspired by) pirate life for years, traveling.”

Photo of Lisa Darter

“I have six of them. The first one I got is the flower, the purple flower in the middle of my back. On the one side it has the runic symbol for growth, and on the other side is the sign for Aquarius. I like violets. It was a favorite flower. And it was like a rite of passage kind of thing because I had just moved out of my hometown and went to college in San Francisco.”

Photo of Jack Donham

“It’s a tribal tattoo with a shamrock in it. I am Irish.”

Photo of Don Holle

“(It’s a) dream catcher. (It was inspired by the) end of a long relationship.”

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RKLOG 6 years, 7 months ago

My libertarianism tends to bulge at the seams when tattoos are concerned.

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none2 6 years, 7 months ago

It is a free country, so adults can do to their bodies whatever they wish pretty much. I will say as someone who had many surgeries as a child to correct a birth defect, I will never understand the opposite trend of people modifying their perfectly normal bodies (body modifications: tattoos, piercings, etc.)

Specifically on the topic of the aesthetics of tattoos themselves, I do think they are unattractive -- especially as the canvas stretches and the colors fade over time. It doesn' t matter to me whether the tattoo artist was Picasso or just somebody down the street. Likewise, it doesn't matter the gender, race, etc of the person carrying the canvas. It is all unattractive to me.

I also don't understand why anybody would want to modify their body permanently. Let's say someone wants a tattoo of the person you are in love with (picture/name) . What if that person dies or you break up? What about your next significant other, would he/she want to be constantly reminded that there was someone else? It is kind of a mess undo a tattoo.

I did see a recent episode LAInk were one particular guy wanted a tattoo of his father who had just died. While I don't want or care for tattoos, at least in his case I could understand his motivations.

I will say that thinking about this topic has made me lax on some other topics. If I had kids, I think I would let them do anything temporary they wanted to do to their looks -- in exchange for a promise not to change anything permanently. In other words, I would now have no problem with mohawks, shaved heads, green/pink/orange/blue/etc hair, weird finger nail colors, or for that matter even temporary tattoos. However, if they wanted to do anything permanent, I would definitely say no while they were young.

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Crispian Paul 6 years, 7 months ago

Marion, you can choose whatever you like or don't. It is not up to me to limit it. However, you are being "attacked" as you put it because of the nature of how you choose to express that opinion....i.e. repeatedly referring to women as tramps, bringing up Nazi's, Gypsies, etc.

I don't like long hair on men, but do you hear me calling men with long hair "sissies" and row on them for ruining their masculine appeal by having long hair, which only women, pirates and rock stars should have? (I don't believe the last part, but I am trying to make a comparison of how vehemently and strongly you choose to trash the people who choose to get tattoos.) Sometimes, it's OK to keep some opinions to yourself.

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Crispian Paul 6 years, 7 months ago

Hey Marion, I am a woman, but thanks for the insanely arrogant shout out.....

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soothing_dragoon 6 years, 7 months ago

Oh, Sydney, you poor boi.

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Marion Lynn 6 years, 7 months ago

erod wrote:

"Marion, were you haunted by dreams as a kid by women clad in tattoos? That would explain a lot. "

Marion writes:

Why is it that some folks feel the need to seek out to precipitating event or an ulterior motive to explain a like or dislike?

For years I preferred Pierre Cardin suits but disliked his ties.

What horror do you suppose happened to be to create that preference?

I prefer Mercedes-Benz to Toyota or NIssan but prefer any Rolls-Royce 20/25 to the Dawn,, the Shadow or the Mercedes-Benz.

I prefer Florsheims to US Keds.

I prefer Goodrich tires over Firestone but prefer Kelley-Springfield to Goodyear.

I prefer Bic lighters to Zippos.

I prefer uninked skin to inked skin.

Have some fun with those!

The problem with some of you people is this:

If another makes a choice with which you disagree, you can deal with that fact only by trying to show that the other person is crazy.

The problem lies with you.

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erod0723 6 years, 7 months ago

Marion, were you haunted by dreams as a kid by women clad in tattoos? That would explain a lot. However, it is your right to be repulsed by people clad in tattoos. But remember, the army of the tattooed is coming for you. Plus, what will you do when we are all required to get identification numbers tattooed onto our heads and hands?

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Marion Lynn 6 years, 7 months ago

"Insane arrogance"?

For what; making a personal choice?

You people are ALL about making "choices" until someone makes one that you don't like and then all Hell breaks loose!

Hypocrites!

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JJE007 6 years, 7 months ago

Marion Lynn says: "The only things that I have written in this thread are that I do not like tattoos and that I do not date women with tattoos." Yeah... I think it's the inflamatory WAY you say it, dude. As in... "I absolutely HATE tattoos on women! I cannot understand why a perfectly beautiful woman would want to "adorn" herself with some idiotic drawing! It just gags me when I see some otherwise attaractive woman lean forward a bit and there is that little spider, bug, Oriental letter or gawdknowswhat in the "v" of her cheeks. I mean if I want a primitive tribeswoman all tattoed up, I will go find one but I am sickened by the current tattoo craze. Tattoos are for marines, gypsy fortune tellers and Popeye The Freaking Sailor Man. Ghastly!"


Nobody wants to take away your rights, only to point out your insane arrogance. Jeepers. You're so easily worked up; this time (and time again, and again and again and again) over NOTHING! Keep up the good quirk!

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Marion Lynn 6 years, 7 months ago

I get a real kick out of this thread and especially comments mde by the likes of Crispian who is evidently well named as his brain is evedently quite fried or "crisp", if you will.

The only things that I have written in this thread are that I do not like tattoos and that I do not date women with tattoos.

Personal CHOICES.

You people are normally all about "CHOICE" but when a CHOICE which you have made for yourselves is rejected by others, you totally wig out!

There is no social, ethical or legal requirement that I accept tattoos.

There is not social, ethical or legal requirement that I not accept tattoos.

I don't like tattoos; that's it, that's all.

It is a personal choice and there is nothing wrong with that choice.

We all make choices every day which involve rejecting the choices of others.

The only real issue here is that I have said it and there are those around here who don't like me so the attacks are on!

I don't see some of the loonier ones going after the others who have indicated that they don't like tattos in the same manner in which the loonies come after me.

I do not like tattoos and will not accept them as an ideal norm and I have that right.

You, on the other hand do not have the right to force me to accept tattoos as a norm.

I do have the right to say that if you work behind my retail counter that you cannot show ink and you do not have the right to force me to do otherwise.

I have the right to set standards for my business and if you wish to work in that business, you must meet those standards as does virtually every other employer on the planet.

I have the right to set standards for my personal relationships and if someone does not meet those standards, then the personal relationship will be limited or non-existent.

You have those same rights and if you take them away from me, you take them away from yourselves.

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Crispian Paul 6 years, 7 months ago

Marion wrote:

Now that I have you thinking, please try it a bit more and get over your widdle self.

I spend plenty of time thinking, but praytell, what is widdle? How old are you? Do you have that speech impediment in real life? I'm so sorry.

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Crispian Paul 6 years, 7 months ago

OK, so if there is a "tramp stamp" is there another cutesy rhyming term for dudes who are d!@ks?

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prospector 6 years, 7 months ago

JJE007, thank you for that. I knew there was "the rest of the story" with Marion and tats.

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storm 6 years, 7 months ago

I heard that epidural injections are not allowed on birthing women with the tramp stamp - something to do with the ink. It may or may not be true. Me, just that birthmark 999.

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Marion Lynn 6 years, 7 months ago

Oh, DARN!

Almost for got about SNAP!

Want to pi** off him too!

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Marion Lynn 6 years, 7 months ago

I like toasted Spam.*

*That is just to aggravate scenebooster, bob and a few others.

I don't do Spam except on sandwiches.

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Gootsie 6 years, 7 months ago

all around the country coast to coast, people always say what do you like most, I don't wanna brag i don't wanna boast, I always tell 'em I like toast.

yeah TOAST yeah TOAST

i get up in the mornin' bout six AM, have a little jelly have a little jam, take a piece of bread put it in the slot, push down the lever and the wires gets hot, i get toast.

yeah TOAST yeah TOAST

im sitting in the class room adding up the sums think' bout toast thikin' yum yum yum and when the bell rings you grab you're back pack and make some toast for an afternoon snack yeah TOAST yeah TOAST

now there's no secret to toasting perfection, there's a dial on the side and you make your selection, push to the dark or the light and then, if it pops too soon press down again, make toast.

yeah TOAST yeah TOAST

when the first caveman drove in from the drags, didn't know what would go with the bacon and the eggs, must have been a genius got it in his head, plug the toaster in the wall, buy a bag of bread, make toast.

yeah TOAST yeah TOAST

oui monsieur bonjour coquette, uh huh croissante, et vous Yvette? maurice chevalier effeil tower, oui marie baggette bon soir.

FRENCH TOAST FRENCH TOAST

in chicago or on the Bob and Tom show

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Chris Deman 6 years, 7 months ago

I have a toast/toaster tattoo on my shoulder Why? I love toast.

The best thing about my tattoo is the reactions I get when I'm out in public. Some people--usually women between the ages of 20 and 50--KNOW there MUST be some deep, dark meaning behind it and my reason always disappoints. The best (and most appropriate) reaction usually comes from men over 50--a laugh that recognizes the whimsy of it all--and the older they are the heartier the laugh is. The demographic that usually "gets it" right off? Children. Ain't they so smart!

I debated for years what my first (and still only) tattoo would be. It was always a toaster/toast. When I told my mom after I got it she didn't blink or miss a beat--she said, "You've always loved toast!"

Favorite Toast Toppings: (butter is always applied first--otherwise it's just stale bread!) - cottage cheese, sunflower seeds, salt & pepper (great afternoon snack) - tahini & brown sugar, mixed (great pre-bedtime fix) - sharp cheddar cheese only (a lazy person's modified "grilled cheese")

P.S. My tattoo includes two butter pats--one says "salted" and the other, "butter"

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bobberboy 6 years, 7 months ago

I was in a drunken stuper and said ah what the hell.

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The_Original_Bob 6 years, 7 months ago

Goodness. The Marion/NickDanger/Hewalksagainbynight Situation gets darker and darker every day.

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George_Braziller 6 years, 7 months ago

Marion - After literally 7855 posts do you really think that anyone takes you seriously any more? You're like the bruise that you push on because it feels so much better when you stop. Guess you have found your purpose in life. Have another beer.

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Flap Doodle 6 years, 7 months ago

Nick, you should start a forum of your very own, so you could curse & rave all you want.

Oh, wait, you tried that.

RCT DOA.

LOL!

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Marion Lynn 6 years, 7 months ago

Crispian wrote:

"Marion, you've managed to nearly offend me in three ways today on this thread: 1) I must be disgusting with that darn tattoo. 2) Gypsy fortune tellers?! As someone who is an actual ethnic Romanian Gypsy, that is an old, played out and actually incorrect stereotype. 3) Holocaust references?! AS someone who had my grandfather's Gypsy relatives disappear and killed in the Holocaust, that's in very poor taste."

Marion writes:

Good that you are offended; it evidently takes that to get you thinking but let;s straighten out your thinking!

(1) I wrote that I am disguted by tattoos, not by the people who sport them. Nice try at spin but it willnot work.

(2) Of course the "gypsy fortune teller" thing is stereotypical; it was intended to be but then so were the references to soldiers and Popeye The Freaking Sailorman.

(3)If you are offended by a statement that a tattoo which replicates one of the numbers placed on the forearm of a victim of the Holocaust for purposes of remberance and that such a tattoo is worth having, then there is nothing that I can do to help you.

Now that I have you thinking, please try it a bit more and get over your widdle self.

Na bister 500,000.

Zhan le Devlesa tai sastimasa.

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George_Braziller 6 years, 7 months ago

Going for another beer? Yeah, right. When you are self-unemployed that must really be difficult trying to fit it all in.

"Actually, Dear Boi, I am at work right now, having a bit of fun with you between things that must be done."

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Crispian Paul 6 years, 7 months ago

I love when people say "What are you going to do when you're 80 and have this tattoo?" I say if I am 80 and someone is still looking at my naked a$$, GOOOOOOD for me!

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Crispian Paul 6 years, 7 months ago

The_Original_Bob (Anonymous) says:

Marion/NickDanger/Hewalksagainbynight invokes the Holocaust. Stay classy!

Agreed, TOB. Actually, Marion, you've managed to nearly offend me in three ways today on this thread: 1) I must be disgusting with that darn tattoo. 2) Gypsy fortune tellers?! As someone who is an actual ethnic Romanian Gypsy, that is an old, played out and actually incorrect stereotype. 3) Holocaust references?! AS someone who had my grandfather's Gypsy relatives disappear and killed in the Holocaust, that's in very poor taste.

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Crispian Paul 6 years, 7 months ago

Marion, you keep repeating about tattoos on women being disgusting. What about men? WHy the implied double standard? Is it because you are an old man?

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Crispian Paul 6 years, 7 months ago

It seems a little shallow to me to make the basis as to whether or not someone is attractive, worthy, smart, human (Marion....) or mature based on whether or not they have tattoos. I was 15 when I got my first one (a tiny black hummingbird). My (step) mom, a nurse, had friends who would complain about kids getting tattoos when I was about 18. Her response was this: My daughter is a straight A student with a college scholarship. She works, doesn't go out getting drunk and is honest. If her having a tattoo is the worst worry I have, then I am lucky.

At any rate, I have a Mayan face mask that I found in Mexico as well as butterfly wings that go from shoulder to hips that says "In Memoriam" with my mother and sister's names on them.

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manyblessings 6 years, 7 months ago

No tatoos here and I am very thankful I never got one, since anything I would have gotten in my younger years I most likely would regret now.

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Bill Chapman 6 years, 7 months ago

I do not have any - mainly because I can't decide what type of tat to get. The sickest (that's coolest to the old fogies) one I ever saw was a multi-color H.R. Giger inspired tat on a friends shoulder. It was only half down the bicep, and was a work in progress. I never got to see the finished work, but it was very good - there were tubes coming in/ out of the arm and shoulder, and they really looked like it. He said he was going to use some U.V. reactive ink too, so it would glow under a U.V. light. For those of you who do not know who H.R. Giger is: he is the artist that came up with the design for the creature in the "Alien" movies, including the way the nest looks. He tends to work only with a simple line sketch and does the main work entirely with an airbrush.

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killjoy 6 years, 7 months ago

I'm thinking about getting a roundabout, but I haven't decided where to put it.

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nudist 6 years, 7 months ago

H_Lecter,

You're a sick sick puppy

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Newell_Post 6 years, 7 months ago

"....The child is amoral. To our eyes, the Papuan is too. The Papuan kills his enemies and eats them. He is not a criminal. But when modern man kills someone and eats him he is either a criminal or a degenerate. The Papuan tattoos his skin, his boat, his paddles, in short everything he can lay hands on. He is not a criminal. The modern man who tattoos himself is either a criminal or a degenerate. There are prisons in which eighty per cent of the inmates show tattoos. The tattooed who are not in prison are latent criminals or degenerate aristocrats. If someone who is tattooed dies at liberty, it means he has died a few years before committing a murder..."

Adolf Loos "Ornment and Crime" 1909

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Marion Lynn 6 years, 7 months ago

Yeah, my "boss" nos(sic).

I am able to post on this forum while I wait for the 'net to do its thing but that will soon change as there is only so much time and so much money to make.

You will soon have to fend for yourselves and find new target for your sociopathic hatreds.

By the way, I'm glad I suppose that you have no teats and do not give a biosolid about your "tats".

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hornhunter 6 years, 7 months ago

Marion, Does your boss no of your idle time spent on the computer? And if you are at work, you must have small tasks for a small mind, by looking at your post times. And if your wondering, I do have 2 tats and no tits, Mooron.

sorry for the typos

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Pywacket 6 years, 7 months ago

Nugget~ Exactly! Same inspiration that can account for half the population. (Other half: wine or spirits. ;-)

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nugget 6 years, 7 months ago

"Do you have a tattoo, and if so, what inspired it?"

No one answered... beer?

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Marion Lynn 6 years, 7 months ago

George:

Adamancy in an opinion is only an indication of drinking in the minds of those who are incapable of forming and and adhereing to an opinion.

Such attacks are the last refuge of the half-wit.

Actually, Dear Boi, I am at work right now, having a bit of fun with you between things that must be done.

Catandmouse:

"Grace, humour and wisdom" in a bleeding tattoo?

That's certainly one for the books!

Who did your tattoos, Picasso?

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George_Braziller 6 years, 7 months ago

My, my, my. Marion did I hit a nerve?

Marion (Marion Lynn) says: George: Shove it.

All I said was, " Blah, blah, blah. Ok, Marion after ten posts we get the point that you don't like tattoos. Move on to your next 12 pack."

When you're sober you often have really good insight, but when you are drunk you are just plain nasty and ... well, nasty.

George (I'll just tell myself to "shove it" right now to save you the effort of responding.)

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Cynthia Walker 6 years, 7 months ago

Wow, I don't usually post, but here goes...I have six tattoos, all lovely and very special to me. I got my first one at the age of twenty and my most recent one at the age of forty-two. I imagine I will have a few more before I'm done. All of my tats have personal meaning for me, they are all beautiful, and they will all age with me just as the rest of my mind and body will: hopefully with grace, humor and wisdom.

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Marion Lynn 6 years, 7 months ago

Dena, you can do whatever you like; the last time I checked, this was still a reasonably free country.

I do not seek to ban tattoos, I simply said that I don't like them.

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Flap Doodle 6 years, 7 months ago

Save

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Thanks

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snap

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denak 6 years, 7 months ago

I absolutely HATE tattoos on women!......"Tattoos are for marines, gypsy fortune tellers and Popeye The Freaking Sailor Man......

I am a woman. (Yes, this has been verified by a doctor) and I was a Marine for 5 years. (This can be verified by the DOD.)

So, am I or am I not, allowed to get a tattoo.

Please clarify for me Marion.

I would hate to do anything to offend you.

Dena

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Marion Lynn 6 years, 7 months ago

Sgt.:

I write for the largest group which attempts to read this and other papers; near functional illiterates, yourself obviously excluded from that category.

Most of these people cannot even spell, much less read.

Information must be presented to the soundbyte generation in little bits as their tiny rat brains cannot otherwise absorb it.

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trinity 6 years, 7 months ago

it isn't the opinion of the pompous resident arse that irks; rather, the manner in which it is presented. to the effect, "i am the great and powerful ozzzzzzzzzzzzzz, if i say it is so-then by god it is! and pity the fool that disagrees!"

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sgtwolverine 6 years, 7 months ago

Marion, have you ever written for a newspaper? Your writing follows the mildly obnoxious every-sentence-is-a-paragraph style of newspaper columnists.

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George_Braziller 6 years, 7 months ago

Blah, blah, blah. Ok, Marion after ten posts we get the point that you don't like tattoos. Move on to your next 12 pack.

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Marion Lynn 6 years, 7 months ago

There is such a thing as a "tasteful" tattoo?

YEECCCCHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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mom_of_three 6 years, 7 months ago

No, I don't have any tattoos. Don't care about them one way or another, but have seen some nice tasteful ones. My late uncle had one on his upper arm, to show for his service in the navy.
And some places of employment don't care if you have tattoos, as long as they aren't offensive. Had a manager at a major chain department store which had a tattoo on her ankle, and she was promoted. Other managers had them, too, but all were tasteful, small, and usually hidden.

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Marion Lynn 6 years, 7 months ago

You see this thread is not really about tattoos any more.

It is now about the requirement of the Pseudo-liberal/Neo-socialist/Progressive that even the unacceptable be accepted.

I don't like tattoos and according to some of the folks posting her I must be all sorts of hideous things, some have resorted to online pseudo-psychoanalysis, that there are deep rooted problems associated with the rejection of tattoos and posters have implied that my rejection of tattoos says all sorts of things about those who have them.

Horsebiosolids!

I don't like tattoos.

That's all I wrote.

Period.

Especially on women.

I don't like okra, either.

I like tomatoes.

I dislike cooked spinach and wouldn't eat it on a bet.

So much today is built around the acceptance of anything and everything and I refuse to play the game.

I don't like Toyotas.

I like Mercedes Benz.

Such likes and dislikes are not indiciative of any sort of mental disturbance but they are indications of personal freaking preference.

I have freinds with tattoos but I do not make an issue of it with them. I do not date women with tattoos. This is standard to which I choose to adhere.

My sister got a tattoo and although I detest it, that is, after all her decision to get one and I will respect that. Doesn't mean that I have to like it and I don't.

You want a tattoo; fine by me. fine by me.

Just don't expect me to like it.

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Pywacket 6 years, 7 months ago

Now, now, A_A... I implore you to ink over that shoulder-chip tat and replace it with a little smiley theatre mask or something equally representative of your usually delightful sense of humor. I, for one tattoo-disliking responder, was not seriously implying that all of you ink-enhanced individuals are felons, drunk sailors, or carnies... only that those are the folk I will always associate the needle with, due to the times and attitudes in which I was simmered.

I've got lots of friends (people I respect!) and a few relatives who have gone under the needle. (Just as I have lots of friends who have gone vegetarian.) That's fine for them, and I certainly don't feel any less close to them, just as an ugly (in my opinion) hairstyle wouldn't make me feel less close to them. I don't have to admire their hairstyle (or tattoo). If they are secure, they won't really care what anyone thinks or be put out if everyone they know doesn't love it.

Come on... Don't tell me you don't associate certain looks with tackiness or trashiness.. Mullets? Certain types of clothes? 80s-porn-star mustaches & thick gold chains w/unbuttoned shirts on a guy?.... Admit it! Our background, the times in which we were raised, the type of neighborhood in which we lived, profoundly inform our gut reaction to certain things we observe decades later. Tattoos just happen to be one of those things that hit my "unsavory character" button, even though I know that the trend has transcended gender and class lines nowadays. Shoot--one of my favorites among my kids' LHS teachers is a young, heavily tattooed and pierced woman who relates to the kids beautifully. She has blue hair and a wicked command of math. She's wonderful. Yet that little voice inside me still says she just rolled off a circus boxcar! heehee..

Despise Marion if you will but I hope you won't take my comments any more seriously than I take them myself.

And for those who believe tattoo haters likely have piercings... Nope. Not this one. I really don't wear much jewelry. I can usually think of a dozen things I'd rather do with any given amount of money than spend it to adorn my body.

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kneejerkreaction 6 years, 7 months ago

I tattoed "Teresa Heinz-Kerry" on my left arm but am real sorry I did it since John lost. An interesting question would have been "how many of you are SORRY you got a tattoo?", or, how many of you were sober at the moment?

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Azure_Attitude 6 years, 7 months ago

Uh, no, Bone. If I had one on my nose then it could be seen, would it not? I do not wear a viel. My tat is not visible unless you're superman and can see through my clothing with your x-ray vision. (I'm surprised I haven't gotten yanked for that comment, but I figure Marion's a big boy)

Is the exit only sign in case you have too many six packs and pass out bottoms up?

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Bone777 6 years, 7 months ago

I don't have a tatoo, but I have considered a couple:

A six pack of beer on my stomach or an EXIT ONLY sign on my rear.

Azure, I didn't read back far enough to see where your tatoo is but I'm guessing by the "Kiss me 2 inches below my tatoo" comment that you have one on your nose.

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Azure_Attitude 6 years, 7 months ago

Smoke it yourself, windbag.

No one I haven't wanted to see my tat hasn't. No one knows I have a tat unless I tell them. My next tat will also be placed just as discretely. To me, tats are a personal thing that I don't feel the necessity to display, but I certainly don't think ill of people that enjoy the display of their body art nor would I count such a thing against someone in making a hiring decision provided that their art was not considred offensive (visible swastika, bare breats, swear words, etc.) or too distracting ("I use horse daily" across their forehead, etc).

I do, however, find many jailhouse tattooes ill thoughtout and applied and may not necessarily consider that so much art, rather evidence of a mispent youth. But I still wouldn't hold that against someone provided the conditions stated above are met.

Kiss me 2 inches below my tatoo, Marion.

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soothing_dragoon 6 years, 7 months ago

Marion, does enforcer know you don't like tattoos?

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Veritas 6 years, 7 months ago

And he'll probably snuggle up to a tatted woman...just doesn't call again after the night is over.

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acg 6 years, 7 months ago

I can't imagine he has many friends. Who wants to listen to a CliffClavenish moron babble incoherently about how the whole world is out to get him and oh yeah, save the pitbulls. Yawn!

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Marion Lynn 6 years, 7 months ago

Azzy, put this in your pipe and smoke it:

Tattoos are NOT covered by anti-discrimination laws:

http://www.bmezine.com/news/guest/20040405.html

Tattoos can prevent you from gaining employment:

http://www.newsday.com/business/ny-bztatt0727,0,2007251.story?coll=ny-business-leadheadlines

And if you have a visible tattoo you have no legal leg to stand on:

http://employeerightsatty.blogspot.com/2005/12/body-piercings-tatoos-hairstyles.html

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Veritas 6 years, 7 months ago

...assuming he has friends, that is...

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Veritas 6 years, 7 months ago

I bet Marion has tons of friends that are tattooed.

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Azure_Attitude 6 years, 7 months ago

8 x 6? Holy Cow!! That's a huge tat, Sue!!! A show in itself!

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Azure_Attitude 6 years, 7 months ago

If it's just that they don't like tattooes thing, I might buy that. It's the interjection of derogatory verbiage that shows the really deal, baby.

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bowen 6 years, 7 months ago

I have 6 tattoos so far and am anxiously awaiting my next one. My mother is of the mindset that tattoos on women are "trashy", as are most people of her generation. However, I did not get my tattoos to please (or displease) my mother. My tattoos are for me and me only. If you don't like them, don't look at them. If you are interested in tattoos, I can carry on about my experiences forever! Everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion, but I feel it is unfair to say that tattoos are "repugnant". And I understand that my cute little tree frog on my belly will one day look like a bull frog, but the point is partially vanity, partially memories. Regardless of how my tattoos age with me, I will always remember getting them and the memories and people associated to them.

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sunflower_sue 6 years, 7 months ago

A_A, although I'd never get a tat myself, I find them really fun to look at on others. Some are quite nice...others, not so much so, but I view most of them as either artwork, or membership.

I'd go as far as to bet that quite a number of people that find tats distasteful have a piercing or two. (Yes, ears count!) Why do we not find that form of self mutilation offensive? I'll bet even Marion doesn't look at a woman with pierced ears and say "Ohhhh, gross!" Well, ok, maybe he does.

My friend with the "body art" show has no tats. However, her show inspired her friend, an english professor (in his 60's), to get his first tattoo. It is fairly large...maybe 8X6...and he is going to have it done just in time for the opening of the show. He wanted it to be finished at the show (kind of a performance piece), but thought better of it.

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Marion Lynn 6 years, 7 months ago

No, Azzy, they just don't like tattoos.

Stop trying to rationalise it away.

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Azure_Attitude 6 years, 7 months ago

Look at all the tatoo hate going on here! Such degrading references to those with tattoos: Trash, tramp, felon, drunk, carnie (not that I have anything against hard working circus folk).

Words that proably aren't accurate descriptions of most of us posters that are tattooed, though maybe true for others.

It sounds to me like people with over developed senses of self importance that mask great insecurity. So much so that they will pick on anything that in their mind makes them appear to be superior to others. It's just too bad that it doesn't work outside of their narrow, narrow minds.

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Bassetlover 6 years, 7 months ago

Marion-----I love you!!! I have never understood doing anything permanent to your body. Yes, we were taught in kindergarten never to write on our bodies (ink poisoning???) so my fear is that many of these young women will have serious regrets as their bodies age. What looks good on a 25 year old body won't be so pretty at 55, 65, or older. This temporary whim has a long-term consequence. Though I recognize my opinion is in the minority these days, as my visits to the swimming pool the past few summers prove that the majority of women there seem to have them. Blows me away. Guess I've turned into my parents.

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purplesage 6 years, 7 months ago

They taught us not to draw on ourselves in kindergarten.

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Baille 6 years, 7 months ago

I think Marion was a bit misleading with the I-don't-date-females-with-tattoos schtick.

http://www.nationaldogregistry.com/index.html

Maybe the problem is in the definition of "date."

;)

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b3 6 years, 7 months ago

Do I have a trashtoo? No.

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Azure_Attitude 6 years, 7 months ago

Not finding humor in your responses hardly means our senses of humor are stunted . . . unlike your height.

Humor and fashion senses functioning just fine here.

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tuna 6 years, 7 months ago

inklines said: Leviticus 19: 28

Yet I know a couple of priests and a few ministers who have tattoos with no regrets.

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sharron5rs 6 years, 7 months ago

Yes I have one. A light orange rose with 2 sm red hearts. I got formyself for my 50th B/D. I have never regreted it and sometimes think about getting another small one, but keep thinking about the pain I had when I got this one. I got it also because my ex always said if I got one he would have divorce me. Guess I should have gotten it sooner.HA!

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EasyTiger 6 years, 7 months ago

To each his own of course, but I think women with tattoos are made just that much more sexy by them rather than in spite of them. Exhibit A for me: L.A.'s Kat Von D, she's got all kinds of old school tats all over, and she is gorgeous. Sor for every Marion, there's an EasyTiger to scoop up the hot girls with ink. . .

As for me, I've got a half-sleeve on my left arm, and a few others. Can't wait to get the right arm half-sleeve done next. Once you get ink in your blood, you understand, and you want more.

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Marion Lynn 6 years, 7 months ago

Azure wrote:

"So Mike and Marion be real men and say what you mean. Why not come right out and say women with tatoos are tramps. Dare ya!"

Marion writes:

That is not what I wrote and I am not going to write that because I do not believe that it is true.

All I wrote was that I find tattoos on women to be disgusting, repulsive and repugnant.

Ther is no ulterior motive, no "hidden cause", no "repressed memory"; it's very simple!

Much in the same way that one may dislike clothing of a given colour without engendering all sorts of online pseudo-pcychoanalysis, I dislike tattoos on women.

Very simple and I am as entitled to my feelings on the matter as you are with yours.

My response to Madmike was a joke; too bad you people have stunted senses of humour.

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mamaknows 6 years, 7 months ago

If a lady puts a tweedy bird on her bosom in her 20's. Do you think it will look like big bird when she is in her 60's?

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acg 6 years, 7 months ago

Marion's just mad that women (adorned with tattoos or not) find him repugnant.

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Azure_Attitude 6 years, 7 months ago

So Mike and Marion be real men and say what you mean. Why not come right out and say women with tatoos are tramps. Dare ya!

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RETICENT_IRREVERENT 6 years, 7 months ago

I have always heard those refered to as "targets"

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madmike 6 years, 7 months ago

We refer to tattoos on the middle of a woman's lower back/upper butt as a "TRAMP STAMP"

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RETICENT_IRREVERENT 6 years, 7 months ago

Marion, Big Daddy's Tattoo and Piercing?, Is that where you "hang"?

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OrangeCat5 6 years, 7 months ago

I have 6, starting with the first one 20 years ago and all of them are significant to me. The last one is a memorial to a dead friend. I couldn't care less if anyone "likes" or "approves" of the art on my body. They are for me, no one else.

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sunflower_sue 6 years, 7 months ago

Bone, forgot to tell you, that Jack Black comment is exactly what I thought when I first saw the pic of Mr. Donham...who, coincidentally, is another Jack. Too funny. He's actually a real cutie...but I really want to trim up that beard! It seems to be creeping down his neck.

Anyone notice Don Holle has snake eyes? Yes, what is with the large pics? I could paint a portrait from one of those!

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Magpie 6 years, 7 months ago

Marion: "I absolutely HATE tattoos on women!"

JJE: "Why do you think they get'em, M? Keeps the arrogant prigs at bay:"

Ha!

If tattoos deterred jerks, women would be lined up in front of Big Daddy's every single day to get spiders and ankhs drawn in their cleavage.

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Pywacket 6 years, 7 months ago

Bwahahahaha~~

Sometimes I'm positively astounded by the weird things I find myself in agreement with Marion over... But I'll go him one further and say I hate to see them on men, too. Call me old, but I will always associate tattoos with certain unsavory, low-class types--which is the only sort who obtained them when I was an impressionable kid.

A tattoo? Oh, hell no, children! Do I LOOK like a felon, a drunken sailor, or a carnie? Didn't think so--and don't want to.

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sgtwolverine 6 years, 7 months ago

I do not have a tattoo; I decided to grow a goatee instead. I guess I wouldn't rule out the possibility of a tattoo, but it's not too high on my list. Besides, I usually prefer adornments with a bit less permanence.

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Marion Lynn 6 years, 7 months ago

Didn't like that one, did you, TOB?

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redneckwoman 6 years, 7 months ago

I have four. All but the first one are original ideas. I actually watched the guy throw away the drawings. Each one was to mark that point in my life. The latest one, which is about 6 weeks old is three butterflies with my kids initial's & birth year. I don't think I'm done either.

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The_Original_Bob 6 years, 7 months ago

Marion/NickDanger/Hewalksagainbynight invokes the Holocaust. Stay classy!

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Marion Lynn 6 years, 7 months ago

CindiCat:

You are correct in that I tend to be adamant about my beliefs.

The "question at hand" is moot for me as I consider virtually all tattoos on women to be disgusting.

On the other hand, there is one tattoo worth having because it would actually mean something.

A tattoo of a number on the inside of the left forearm.

Go here and pick a number; doesn't matter which number, just pick one within the series specified:

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/tattoos1.html

You want a tattoo with MEANING, get one of these!

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trinity 6 years, 7 months ago

dear god in heaven, or wherever...marion doesn't miss a chance to spout off about women&tattoos. seems we've been down this road before.

he protests with such vehemence-i suspect he stores women/tattoos in his feeble lil' memory bank to use as stimulation for his next encounter. in other words-he's so nasty about it, i think it turns him on.

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Azure_Attitude 6 years, 7 months ago

How many women, Marion, after meeting you decided not on a bet, not with a ten foot pole, or not-even-with-lulu's-kitty-kat before you even discovered whether they even had a tat, or not?

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H_Lecter 6 years, 7 months ago

I'm thinking about lampshades.

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Flap Doodle 6 years, 7 months ago

No tatts for me. I'm keeping myself free of identifying marks in case I decide to turn to a life of crime.

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Ceallach 6 years, 7 months ago

No. To date, nothing has inspired me enough to go under the needle. I was tempted on Saturday, went to the KCIrishFest, crazy Irishmen (and friends) everywhere, with lots of creative tats. But then I remembered some I've seen that have already gone the way of the example given by blue's link and decided against it :)

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CindiCat 6 years, 7 months ago

While I am not a regular contributor to "posting a comment" on LJW, I do read them every day.

I must say, I always get a good giggle from Marion's comments regardless of the topic of the day. You are totally funnie.

While you are entitled to your opinion/view, as are the rest of us, I have noticed that there seems to be a pattern though. When you are vehemently opposed to something, you just don't let go. Gotta keep on goin on.

Maybe you choose to do that to get the debate going further or maybe that is just your way of getting your point across.

Either way, you do crack me up.

Since you never answered the question at hand, I am goin out on a limb and guess that you do not have a tattoo.

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blue73harley 6 years, 7 months ago

My daughter was going to get a lower back tattoo a few years ago but this SNL skit made her change her mind...

http://www.videovat.com/videos/721/tattoo-removal.aspx

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The_Original_Bob 6 years, 7 months ago

Marion/NickDanger/Hewalksagainbynight -

Cut and Paste!

Why do you think you are British?

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coolmom 6 years, 7 months ago

lol maybe since its my gateway tat and having one can apparently make the world end i shoud just quit the pta, site council and the board of special olympics and stop volunteering in schools and should have our newest childs adoption not finalized...maybe even buy a harley and join a gang lol...funny. tats are the end of the world heehee, run flee before me!

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coolmom 6 years, 7 months ago

i have a small heart with the tail coming through it and 4 tiny stars circling it for each of my kids and a slightly bigger one for the hubby. its tiny but i do wish i had put it somewhere else as it shows in some formal attire. i have never wished i didnt get it though.

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Marion Lynn 6 years, 7 months ago

Oh, Dear, you poor babies!

I generally avoid even speaking to wmone with tattooos and have normally made the judgement call before they are even aware of it, so no great loss there.

I prefere to deal with a better class than those who emulate primitive hominids.

I am not alone in this preference as tattoos are rapidly falling into disfavour with empoyers as well.

You can have'em but no one had better see them, the employers are saying.

Studies such as this one also indicate a strong connection between the rise of tattoos and the increase in the number of Hep C cases:

http://www.scienceblog.com/community/older/2001/E/200115687.html

and more:

http://gateway.nlm.nih.gov/MeetingAbstracts/102201575.html

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Azure_Attitude 6 years, 7 months ago

I have an ankh and yin yang with decorative border. It's on my lower back, what I consider to be the geographical center of my body. It's a spiritual thang.

Mr. Attitude called it a "tramp stamp" the other day - they didn't fall out they're only a little loose . . . his teeth that is . . .

I'm kidding, I didn't really punch him in the mouth. Razzed him back a bit, for sure, but that's part of the beauty of our relationship.

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sunflower_sue 6 years, 7 months ago

No tatts. The best one I ever saw was on this big burly dude's arm. It was a portrait of his 3 babies. I will admit that I found it more beautiful because this dude was huge! It showed a soft side to him.

A friend is doing a show on "body art." (In Iowa.) It's interesting what she is finding out about why people adorn their bodies the way they do. For the most part, there is a definite age cuttoff for "meaningful" versus "pretty" tattoos. All I can say is, we were given a finite amount of "canvas" to work with. Use it wisely.

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Sigmund 6 years, 7 months ago

I have a "666" on my forehead right above the hairline so it isn't really visible. I don't know what inspired it because I can't seem to remember when I got it, Weird huh? I think it must of been sometime between May 31 - June 3, 2007 at the Ritz-Carlton hotel in ÅiÅli, Istanbul, Turkey. I was hanging out with the Bilderberg Group and they asked to see my Birth Certificate, it's a long story. But I do remember they were worried about a group of people in Kansas who were driving around without proper documentation and if they ever figured out the BG's secret, their grip on world power would broken.

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acg 6 years, 7 months ago

Hehe, yeah, hey ladies, it turns Marion off if we get tattoos, so be sure to get the biggest one you can, so he won't be panting anywhere near you. Whereas he's turned off by chicks with tatts, I'm turned off by creepy, racist old men that have a blowhard opinion about everything, that's usually wrong.

I have the purple rose of Cairo on my right ankle. The inspiration was to anger my mother (I was only 18) but I've never regretted it. It's a one of a kind design, the guy who did it is dead so I don't have to worry about him copying it onto anyone else and it has never faded because I stay out of the sun. Now when I look at my tattoo, I can remember the days when I was a little wild and free and since I love nostalgia, it all works out.

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werekoala 6 years, 7 months ago

If my kid ever wanted a tattoo -- I would take him see the parade of tattoo banality that is Oceans of Fun.

If he actually had something that was unique and creative, and still wanted it after seeing his probable future, I wouldn't really object.

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RETICENT_IRREVERENT 6 years, 7 months ago

I sometimes find a "target tat" alluring...

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The_Original_Bob 6 years, 7 months ago

Marion/NickDanger/Hewalksagainbynight -

Whew. You have too many names. Anyhoo, the female species now knows your opinion and I'm sure they'll take it into account at their next meeting.

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chemegirlie 6 years, 7 months ago

I don't have any, but mom's second husband had an interesting one. It was merely the number 13 1/2. One day I finally asked him what it meant. He had gotten it i while in jail awaiting trial for something (yeah, a real upstanding guy. glad I never live with them) I stood for "12 jury, 1 judge and a half a$$ chance."

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JJE007 6 years, 7 months ago

Why do you think they get'em, M? Keeps the arrogant prigs at bay...

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Marion Lynn 6 years, 7 months ago

I absolutely HATE tattoos on women! I cannot understand why a perfectly beautiful woman would want to "adorn" herself with some idiotic drawing!

It just gags me when I see some otherwise attaractive woman lean forward a bit and there is that little spider, bug, Oriental letter or gawdknowswhat in the "v" of her cheeks.

I mean if I want a primitive tribeswoman all tattoed up, I will go find one but I am sickened by the current tattoo craze.

Tattoos are for marines, gypsy fortune tellers and Popeye The Freaking Sailor Man.

Ghastly!

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JJE007 6 years, 7 months ago

I have a pencil stab, graphite tattoo on my right cheek. It was inspired by sibling violence.

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staff04 6 years, 7 months ago

A few. All motivated by stupidity. Coincidentally, all three were also done on August 22. Didn't plan it at all either--the guy at the shop pointed it out to me when I got the last one...

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Crossfire 6 years, 7 months ago

....Yep, a W on the left and a W on the right.... .............................Bent over................................ .................................WoW................................ ....................Standing on my head................. ...............................MoM................................ ...........................Sometimes......................... .................................M&M............................. .................................(w)(w).........................

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trinity 6 years, 7 months ago

i have a very special tattoo on my left shoulder blade; all 3 of my darling daughters had already gotten the same one, and they chipped in to get me mine on my birthday last year(i LOVES me some skin illustrations, wonderful awesome artisitc bunch there!). it's my daughter's initials, and coincidentally the initials of my 3 grandbabies! and it wasn't even planned, lol. also have a vanity plate on my 'cycle with the same thing.

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cutny 6 years, 7 months ago

Thank goodness, no tattoos. Ink and needle = "alright" = inky blob. Wow, cool.

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blue73harley 6 years, 7 months ago

Small tattoo of Calvin. I'm a big fan of comic strip and when it ended, I stopped reading the comics. I also have a friend and we were kind of like Calvin and Hobbs....lots of adventures (and mis-adventures).

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Das_Ubermime 6 years, 7 months ago

I have a tattoo of a centipede which encompasses almost my entire upper right arm. It was inspired by personal issues in my life.

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CindiCat 6 years, 7 months ago

I have 3 tattoo's. The first 2 I got.....just on a whim. No inspiration. The 3rd one, my 2 daughter's idea for us to get matching ones. Can't see any of them unless I want them seen!

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jonas 6 years, 7 months ago

It does seem, though, that if we're to have giant close-up pictures, on this question they should be of the tattoos, not just the faces.

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oldvet 6 years, 7 months ago

EGA on my arm, put there many years ago and still proud to be part of it. Semper Fi!

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jonas 6 years, 7 months ago

I have an eye on my ankle. Coolest thing I could think of in my friend's basement at 17 years old, and it was, at least, simple enough to allow it to look alright using just a needle and india ink.

Probably wasn't a good idea though.

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PrincessConsuelaBananaHammock 6 years, 7 months ago

I have a butterfly with my daughter's name above it. Butterfly to symbolize her fluttery personality, and it's in her favorite colors. I wanted to capture her childhood and have something that reminded me of this time in her life, so that when she's a teen and she hates me I will always remember when I was her hero!

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Bone777 6 years, 7 months ago

Wow, close-ups!!! Scary.

Jack Black appears to have lost a few pounds...

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