It is a free country, so adults can do to their bodies whatever they wish pretty much. I will say as someone who had many surgeries as a child to correct a birth defect, I will never understand the opposite trend of people modifying their perfectly normal bodies (body modifications: tattoos, piercings, etc.)

Specifically on the topic of the aesthetics of tattoos themselves, I do think they are unattractive -- especially as the canvas stretches and the colors fade over time. It doesn' t matter to me whether the tattoo artist was Picasso or just somebody down the street. Likewise, it doesn't matter the gender, race, etc of the person carrying the canvas. It is all unattractive to me.

I also don't understand why anybody would want to modify their body permanently. Let's say someone wants a tattoo of the person you are in love with (picture/name) . What if that person dies or you break up? What about your next significant other, would he/she want to be constantly reminded that there was someone else? It is kind of a mess undo a tattoo.

I did see a recent episode LAInk were one particular guy wanted a tattoo of his father who had just died. While I don't want or care for tattoos, at least in his case I could understand his motivations.

I will say that thinking about this topic has made me lax on some other topics. If I had kids, I think I would let them do anything temporary they wanted to do to their looks -- in exchange for a promise not to change anything permanently. In other words, I would now have no problem with mohawks, shaved heads, green/pink/orange/blue/etc hair, weird finger nail colors, or for that matter even temporary tattoos. However, if they wanted to do anything permanent, I would definitely say no while they were young.

Marion, you can choose whatever you like or don't. It is not up to me to limit it. However, you are being "attacked" as you put it because of the nature of how you choose to express that opinion....i.e. repeatedly referring to women as tramps, bringing up Nazi's, Gypsies, etc.

I don't like long hair on men, but do you hear me calling men with long hair "sissies" and row on them for ruining their masculine appeal by having long hair, which only women, pirates and rock stars should have? (I don't believe the last part, but I am trying to make a comparison of how vehemently and strongly you choose to trash the people who choose to get tattoos.) Sometimes, it's OK to keep some opinions to yourself.

Oh, Sydney, you poor boi.

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erod wrote:

"Marion, were you haunted by dreams as a kid by women clad in tattoos? That would explain a lot. "

Marion writes:

Why is it that some folks feel the need to seek out to precipitating event or an ulterior motive to explain a like or dislike?

For years I preferred Pierre Cardin suits but disliked his ties.

What horror do you suppose happened to be to create that preference?

I prefer Mercedes-Benz to Toyota or NIssan but prefer any Rolls-Royce 20/25 to the Dawn,, the Shadow or the Mercedes-Benz.

I prefer Florsheims to US Keds.

I prefer Goodrich tires over Firestone but prefer Kelley-Springfield to Goodyear.

I prefer Bic lighters to Zippos.

I prefer uninked skin to inked skin.

Have some fun with those!

The problem with some of you people is this:

If another makes a choice with which you disagree, you can deal with that fact only by trying to show that the other person is crazy.

The problem lies with you.

"Insane arrogance"?

For what; making a personal choice?

You people are ALL about making "choices" until someone makes one that you don't like and then all Hell breaks loose!

Hypocrites!

Marion Lynn says: "The only things that I have written in this thread are that I do not like tattoos and that I do not date women with tattoos." Yeah... I think it's the inflamatory WAY you say it, dude. As in... "I absolutely HATE tattoos on women! I cannot understand why a perfectly beautiful woman would want to "adorn" herself with some idiotic drawing! It just gags me when I see some otherwise attaractive woman lean forward a bit and there is that little spider, bug, Oriental letter or gawdknowswhat in the "v" of her cheeks. I mean if I want a primitive tribeswoman all tattoed up, I will go find one but I am sickened by the current tattoo craze. Tattoos are for marines, gypsy fortune tellers and Popeye The Freaking Sailor Man. Ghastly!"

Nobody wants to take away your rights, only to point out your insane arrogance. Jeepers. You're so easily worked up; this time (and time again, and again and again and again) over NOTHING! Keep up the good quirk!

I get a real kick out of this thread and especially comments mde by the likes of Crispian who is evidently well named as his brain is evedently quite fried or "crisp", if you will.

The only things that I have written in this thread are that I do not like tattoos and that I do not date women with tattoos.

Personal CHOICES.

You people are normally all about "CHOICE" but when a CHOICE which you have made for yourselves is rejected by others, you totally wig out!

There is no social, ethical or legal requirement that I accept tattoos.

There is not social, ethical or legal requirement that I not accept tattoos.

I don't like tattoos; that's it, that's all.

It is a personal choice and there is nothing wrong with that choice.

We all make choices every day which involve rejecting the choices of others.

The only real issue here is that I have said it and there are those around here who don't like me so the attacks are on!

I don't see some of the loonier ones going after the others who have indicated that they don't like tattos in the same manner in which the loonies come after me.

I do not like tattoos and will not accept them as an ideal norm and I have that right.

You, on the other hand do not have the right to force me to accept tattoos as a norm.

I do have the right to say that if you work behind my retail counter that you cannot show ink and you do not have the right to force me to do otherwise.

I have the right to set standards for my business and if you wish to work in that business, you must meet those standards as does virtually every other employer on the planet.

I have the right to set standards for my personal relationships and if someone does not meet those standards, then the personal relationship will be limited or non-existent.

You have those same rights and if you take them away from me, you take them away from yourselves.

Marion wrote:

Now that I have you thinking, please try it a bit more and get over your widdle self.

I spend plenty of time thinking, but praytell, what is widdle? How old are you? Do you have that speech impediment in real life? I'm so sorry.

Oh, DARN!

Almost for got about SNAP!

Want to pi** off him too!

I like toasted Spam.*

*That is just to aggravate scenebooster, bob and a few others.

I don't do Spam except on sandwiches.

all around the country coast to coast, people always say what do you like most, I don't wanna brag i don't wanna boast, I always tell 'em I like toast.

yeah TOAST yeah TOAST

i get up in the mornin' bout six AM, have a little jelly have a little jam, take a piece of bread put it in the slot, push down the lever and the wires gets hot, i get toast.

yeah TOAST yeah TOAST

im sitting in the class room adding up the sums think' bout toast thikin' yum yum yum and when the bell rings you grab you're back pack and make some toast for an afternoon snack yeah TOAST yeah TOAST

now there's no secret to toasting perfection, there's a dial on the side and you make your selection, push to the dark or the light and then, if it pops too soon press down again, make toast.

yeah TOAST yeah TOAST

when the first caveman drove in from the drags, didn't know what would go with the bacon and the eggs, must have been a genius got it in his head, plug the toaster in the wall, buy a bag of bread, make toast.

yeah TOAST yeah TOAST

oui monsieur bonjour coquette, uh huh croissante, et vous Yvette? maurice chevalier effeil tower, oui marie baggette bon soir.

FRENCH TOAST FRENCH TOAST

in chicago or on the Bob and Tom show

I have a toast/toaster tattoo on my shoulder Why? I love toast.

The best thing about my tattoo is the reactions I get when I'm out in public. Some people--usually women between the ages of 20 and 50--KNOW there MUST be some deep, dark meaning behind it and my reason always disappoints. The best (and most appropriate) reaction usually comes from men over 50--a laugh that recognizes the whimsy of it all--and the older they are the heartier the laugh is. The demographic that usually "gets it" right off? Children. Ain't they so smart!

I debated for years what my first (and still only) tattoo would be. It was always a toaster/toast. When I told my mom after I got it she didn't blink or miss a beat--she said, "You've always loved toast!"

Favorite Toast Toppings: (butter is always applied first--otherwise it's just stale bread!) - cottage cheese, sunflower seeds, salt & pepper (great afternoon snack) - tahini & brown sugar, mixed (great pre-bedtime fix) - sharp cheddar cheese only (a lazy person's modified "grilled cheese")

P.S. My tattoo includes two butter pats--one says "salted" and the other, "butter"

Nick, you should start a forum of your very own, so you could curse & rave all you want.

Oh, wait, you tried that.

RCT DOA.

LOL!

Crispian wrote:

"Marion, you've managed to nearly offend me in three ways today on this thread: 1) I must be disgusting with that darn tattoo. 2) Gypsy fortune tellers?! As someone who is an actual ethnic Romanian Gypsy, that is an old, played out and actually incorrect stereotype. 3) Holocaust references?! AS someone who had my grandfather's Gypsy relatives disappear and killed in the Holocaust, that's in very poor taste."

Marion writes:

Good that you are offended; it evidently takes that to get you thinking but let;s straighten out your thinking!

(1) I wrote that I am disguted by tattoos, not by the people who sport them. Nice try at spin but it willnot work.

(2) Of course the "gypsy fortune teller" thing is stereotypical; it was intended to be but then so were the references to soldiers and Popeye The Freaking Sailorman.

(3)If you are offended by a statement that a tattoo which replicates one of the numbers placed on the forearm of a victim of the Holocaust for purposes of remberance and that such a tattoo is worth having, then there is nothing that I can do to help you.

Now that I have you thinking, please try it a bit more and get over your widdle self.

Na bister 500,000.

Zhan le Devlesa tai sastimasa.

Going for another beer? Yeah, right. When you are self-unemployed that must really be difficult trying to fit it all in.

"Actually, Dear Boi, I am at work right now, having a bit of fun with you between things that must be done."

The_Original_Bob (Anonymous) says:

Marion/NickDanger/Hewalksagainbynight invokes the Holocaust. Stay classy!

Agreed, TOB. Actually, Marion, you've managed to nearly offend me in three ways today on this thread: 1) I must be disgusting with that darn tattoo. 2) Gypsy fortune tellers?! As someone who is an actual ethnic Romanian Gypsy, that is an old, played out and actually incorrect stereotype. 3) Holocaust references?! AS someone who had my grandfather's Gypsy relatives disappear and killed in the Holocaust, that's in very poor taste.

It seems a little shallow to me to make the basis as to whether or not someone is attractive, worthy, smart, human (Marion....) or mature based on whether or not they have tattoos. I was 15 when I got my first one (a tiny black hummingbird). My (step) mom, a nurse, had friends who would complain about kids getting tattoos when I was about 18. Her response was this: My daughter is a straight A student with a college scholarship. She works, doesn't go out getting drunk and is honest. If her having a tattoo is the worst worry I have, then I am lucky.

At any rate, I have a Mayan face mask that I found in Mexico as well as butterfly wings that go from shoulder to hips that says "In Memoriam" with my mother and sister's names on them.

H_Lecter,

You're a sick sick puppy

"....The child is amoral. To our eyes, the Papuan is too. The Papuan kills his enemies and eats them. He is not a criminal. But when modern man kills someone and eats him he is either a criminal or a degenerate. The Papuan tattoos his skin, his boat, his paddles, in short everything he can lay hands on. He is not a criminal. The modern man who tattoos himself is either a criminal or a degenerate. There are prisons in which eighty per cent of the inmates show tattoos. The tattooed who are not in prison are latent criminals or degenerate aristocrats. If someone who is tattooed dies at liberty, it means he has died a few years before committing a murder..."

Adolf Loos "Ornment and Crime" 1909

Yeah, my "boss" nos(sic).

I am able to post on this forum while I wait for the 'net to do its thing but that will soon change as there is only so much time and so much money to make.

You will soon have to fend for yourselves and find new target for your sociopathic hatreds.

By the way, I'm glad I suppose that you have no teats and do not give a biosolid about your "tats".

Marion, Does your boss no of your idle time spent on the computer? And if you are at work, you must have small tasks for a small mind, by looking at your post times. And if your wondering, I do have 2 tats and no tits, Mooron.

sorry for the typos

"Do you have a tattoo, and if so, what inspired it?"

No one answered... beer?

George:

Adamancy in an opinion is only an indication of drinking in the minds of those who are incapable of forming and and adhereing to an opinion.

Such attacks are the last refuge of the half-wit.

Actually, Dear Boi, I am at work right now, having a bit of fun with you between things that must be done.

Catandmouse:

"Grace, humour and wisdom" in a bleeding tattoo?

That's certainly one for the books!

Who did your tattoos, Picasso?

My, my, my. Marion did I hit a nerve?

Marion (Marion Lynn) says: George: Shove it.

All I said was, " Blah, blah, blah. Ok, Marion after ten posts we get the point that you don't like tattoos. Move on to your next 12 pack."

When you're sober you often have really good insight, but when you are drunk you are just plain nasty and ... well, nasty.

George (I'll just tell myself to "shove it" right now to save you the effort of responding.)

Dena, you can do whatever you like; the last time I checked, this was still a reasonably free country.

I do not seek to ban tattoos, I simply said that I don't like them.

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I absolutely HATE tattoos on women!......"Tattoos are for marines, gypsy fortune tellers and Popeye The Freaking Sailor Man......

I am a woman. (Yes, this has been verified by a doctor) and I was a Marine for 5 years. (This can be verified by the DOD.)

So, am I or am I not, allowed to get a tattoo.

Please clarify for me Marion.

I would hate to do anything to offend you.

Dena

Sgt.:

I write for the largest group which attempts to read this and other papers; near functional illiterates, yourself obviously excluded from that category.

Most of these people cannot even spell, much less read.

Information must be presented to the soundbyte generation in little bits as their tiny rat brains cannot otherwise absorb it.

George:

Shove it.

There is such a thing as a "tasteful" tattoo?

YEECCCCHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You see this thread is not really about tattoos any more.

It is now about the requirement of the Pseudo-liberal/Neo-socialist/Progressive that even the unacceptable be accepted.

I don't like tattoos and according to some of the folks posting her I must be all sorts of hideous things, some have resorted to online pseudo-psychoanalysis, that there are deep rooted problems associated with the rejection of tattoos and posters have implied that my rejection of tattoos says all sorts of things about those who have them.

Horsebiosolids!

I don't like tattoos.

That's all I wrote.

Period.

Especially on women.

I don't like okra, either.

I like tomatoes.

I dislike cooked spinach and wouldn't eat it on a bet.

So much today is built around the acceptance of anything and everything and I refuse to play the game.

I don't like Toyotas.

I like Mercedes Benz.

Such likes and dislikes are not indiciative of any sort of mental disturbance but they are indications of personal freaking preference.

I have freinds with tattoos but I do not make an issue of it with them. I do not date women with tattoos. This is standard to which I choose to adhere.

My sister got a tattoo and although I detest it, that is, after all her decision to get one and I will respect that. Doesn't mean that I have to like it and I don't.

You want a tattoo; fine by me. fine by me.

Just don't expect me to like it.

Now, now, A_A... I implore you to ink over that shoulder-chip tat and replace it with a little smiley theatre mask or something equally representative of your usually delightful sense of humor. I, for one tattoo-disliking responder, was not seriously implying that all of you ink-enhanced individuals are felons, drunk sailors, or carnies... only that those are the folk I will always associate the needle with, due to the times and attitudes in which I was simmered.

I've got lots of friends (people I respect!) and a few relatives who have gone under the needle. (Just as I have lots of friends who have gone vegetarian.) That's fine for them, and I certainly don't feel any less close to them, just as an ugly (in my opinion) hairstyle wouldn't make me feel less close to them. I don't have to admire their hairstyle (or tattoo). If they are secure, they won't really care what anyone thinks or be put out if everyone they know doesn't love it.

Come on... Don't tell me you don't associate certain looks with tackiness or trashiness.. Mullets? Certain types of clothes? 80s-porn-star mustaches & thick gold chains w/unbuttoned shirts on a guy?.... Admit it! Our background, the times in which we were raised, the type of neighborhood in which we lived, profoundly inform our gut reaction to certain things we observe decades later. Tattoos just happen to be one of those things that hit my "unsavory character" button, even though I know that the trend has transcended gender and class lines nowadays. Shoot--one of my favorites among my kids' LHS teachers is a young, heavily tattooed and pierced woman who relates to the kids beautifully. She has blue hair and a wicked command of math. She's wonderful. Yet that little voice inside me still says she just rolled off a circus boxcar! heehee..

Despise Marion if you will but I hope you won't take my comments any more seriously than I take them myself.

And for those who believe tattoo haters likely have piercings... Nope. Not this one. I really don't wear much jewelry. I can usually think of a dozen things I'd rather do with any given amount of money than spend it to adorn my body.

Uh, no, Bone. If I had one on my nose then it could be seen, would it not? I do not wear a viel. My tat is not visible unless you're superman and can see through my clothing with your x-ray vision. (I'm surprised I haven't gotten yanked for that comment, but I figure Marion's a big boy)

Is the exit only sign in case you have too many six packs and pass out bottoms up?

I don't have a tatoo, but I have considered a couple:

A six pack of beer on my stomach or an EXIT ONLY sign on my rear.

Azure, I didn't read back far enough to see where your tatoo is but I'm guessing by the "Kiss me 2 inches below my tatoo" comment that you have one on your nose.

Smoke it yourself, windbag.

No one I haven't wanted to see my tat hasn't. No one knows I have a tat unless I tell them. My next tat will also be placed just as discretely. To me, tats are a personal thing that I don't feel the necessity to display, but I certainly don't think ill of people that enjoy the display of their body art nor would I count such a thing against someone in making a hiring decision provided that their art was not considred offensive (visible swastika, bare breats, swear words, etc.) or too distracting ("I use horse daily" across their forehead, etc).

I do, however, find many jailhouse tattooes ill thoughtout and applied and may not necessarily consider that so much art, rather evidence of a mispent youth. But I still wouldn't hold that against someone provided the conditions stated above are met.

Kiss me 2 inches below my tatoo, Marion.

Azzy, put this in your pipe and smoke it:

Tattoos are NOT covered by anti-discrimination laws:

http://www.bmezine.com/news/guest/20040405.html

Tattoos can prevent you from gaining employment:

http://www.newsday.com/business/ny-bztatt0727,0,2007251.story?coll=ny-business-leadheadlines

And if you have a visible tattoo you have no legal leg to stand on:

http://employeerightsatty.blogspot.com/2005/12/body-piercings-tatoos-hairstyles.html

A_A, although I'd never get a tat myself, I find them really fun to look at on others. Some are quite nice...others, not so much so, but I view most of them as either artwork, or membership.

I'd go as far as to bet that quite a number of people that find tats distasteful have a piercing or two. (Yes, ears count!) Why do we not find that form of self mutilation offensive? I'll bet even Marion doesn't look at a woman with pierced ears and say "Ohhhh, gross!" Well, ok, maybe he does.

My friend with the "body art" show has no tats. However, her show inspired her friend, an english professor (in his 60's), to get his first tattoo. It is fairly large...maybe 8X6...and he is going to have it done just in time for the opening of the show. He wanted it to be finished at the show (kind of a performance piece), but thought better of it.

No, Azzy, they just don't like tattoos.

Stop trying to rationalise it away.

Look at all the tatoo hate going on here! Such degrading references to those with tattoos: Trash, tramp, felon, drunk, carnie (not that I have anything against hard working circus folk).

Words that proably aren't accurate descriptions of most of us posters that are tattooed, though maybe true for others.

It sounds to me like people with over developed senses of self importance that mask great insecurity. So much so that they will pick on anything that in their mind makes them appear to be superior to others. It's just too bad that it doesn't work outside of their narrow, narrow minds.

I think Marion was a bit misleading with the I-don't-date-females-with-tattoos schtick.

http://www.nationaldogregistry.com/index.html

Maybe the problem is in the definition of "date."

;)

Not finding humor in your responses hardly means our senses of humor are stunted . . . unlike your height.

Humor and fashion senses functioning just fine here.

inklines said: Leviticus 19: 28

Yet I know a couple of priests and a few ministers who have tattoos with no regrets.

To each his own of course, but I think women with tattoos are made just that much more sexy by them rather than in spite of them. Exhibit A for me: L.A.'s Kat Von D, she's got all kinds of old school tats all over, and she is gorgeous. Sor for every Marion, there's an EasyTiger to scoop up the hot girls with ink. . .

As for me, I've got a half-sleeve on my left arm, and a few others. Can't wait to get the right arm half-sleeve done next. Once you get ink in your blood, you understand, and you want more.

Azure wrote:

"So Mike and Marion be real men and say what you mean. Why not come right out and say women with tatoos are tramps. Dare ya!"

Marion writes:

That is not what I wrote and I am not going to write that because I do not believe that it is true.

All I wrote was that I find tattoos on women to be disgusting, repulsive and repugnant.

Ther is no ulterior motive, no "hidden cause", no "repressed memory"; it's very simple!

Much in the same way that one may dislike clothing of a given colour without engendering all sorts of online pseudo-pcychoanalysis, I dislike tattoos on women.

Very simple and I am as entitled to my feelings on the matter as you are with yours.

My response to Madmike was a joke; too bad you people have stunted senses of humour.

Thankfully, you don't have to be stuck with 'em...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdFviE4JNys

Agnostick agnostick@excite.com http://www.uscentrist.org http://www.americanplan.org

Madmike:

You got it!

Bone, forgot to tell you, that Jack Black comment is exactly what I thought when I first saw the pic of Mr. Donham...who, coincidentally, is another Jack. Too funny. He's actually a real cutie...but I really want to trim up that beard! It seems to be creeping down his neck.

Anyone notice Don Holle has snake eyes? Yes, what is with the large pics? I could paint a portrait from one of those!

Marion: "I absolutely HATE tattoos on women!"

JJE: "Why do you think they get'em, M? Keeps the arrogant prigs at bay:"

Ha!

If tattoos deterred jerks, women would be lined up in front of Big Daddy's every single day to get spiders and ankhs drawn in their cleavage.

Bwahahahaha~~

Sometimes I'm positively astounded by the weird things I find myself in agreement with Marion over... But I'll go him one further and say I hate to see them on men, too. Call me old, but I will always associate tattoos with certain unsavory, low-class types--which is the only sort who obtained them when I was an impressionable kid.

A tattoo? Oh, hell no, children! Do I LOOK like a felon, a drunken sailor, or a carnie? Didn't think so--and don't want to.

CindiCat:

You are correct in that I tend to be adamant about my beliefs.

The "question at hand" is moot for me as I consider virtually all tattoos on women to be disgusting.

On the other hand, there is one tattoo worth having because it would actually mean something.

A tattoo of a number on the inside of the left forearm.

Go here and pick a number; doesn't matter which number, just pick one within the series specified:

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/tattoos1.html

You want a tattoo with MEANING, get one of these!

dear god in heaven, or wherever...marion doesn't miss a chance to spout off about women&tattoos. seems we've been down this road before.

he protests with such vehemence-i suspect he stores women/tattoos in his feeble lil' memory bank to use as stimulation for his next encounter. in other words-he's so nasty about it, i think it turns him on.

While I am not a regular contributor to "posting a comment" on LJW, I do read them every day.

I must say, I always get a good giggle from Marion's comments regardless of the topic of the day. You are totally funnie.

While you are entitled to your opinion/view, as are the rest of us, I have noticed that there seems to be a pattern though. When you are vehemently opposed to something, you just don't let go. Gotta keep on goin on.

Maybe you choose to do that to get the debate going further or maybe that is just your way of getting your point across.

Either way, you do crack me up.

Since you never answered the question at hand, I am goin out on a limb and guess that you do not have a tattoo.

My daughter was going to get a lower back tattoo a few years ago but this SNL skit made her change her mind...

http://www.videovat.com/videos/721/tattoo-removal.aspx

Marion/NickDanger/Hewalksagainbynight -

Cut and Paste!

Why do you think you are British?

Oh, Dear, you poor babies!

I generally avoid even speaking to wmone with tattooos and have normally made the judgement call before they are even aware of it, so no great loss there.

I prefere to deal with a better class than those who emulate primitive hominids.

I am not alone in this preference as tattoos are rapidly falling into disfavour with empoyers as well.

You can have'em but no one had better see them, the employers are saying.

Studies such as this one also indicate a strong connection between the rise of tattoos and the increase in the number of Hep C cases:

http://www.scienceblog.com/community/older/2001/E/200115687.html

and more:

http://gateway.nlm.nih.gov/MeetingAbstracts/102201575.html

I have an ankh and yin yang with decorative border. It's on my lower back, what I consider to be the geographical center of my body. It's a spiritual thang.

Mr. Attitude called it a "tramp stamp" the other day - they didn't fall out they're only a little loose . . . his teeth that is . . .

I'm kidding, I didn't really punch him in the mouth. Razzed him back a bit, for sure, but that's part of the beauty of our relationship.

No tatts. The best one I ever saw was on this big burly dude's arm. It was a portrait of his 3 babies. I will admit that I found it more beautiful because this dude was huge! It showed a soft side to him.

A friend is doing a show on "body art." (In Iowa.) It's interesting what she is finding out about why people adorn their bodies the way they do. For the most part, there is a definite age cuttoff for "meaningful" versus "pretty" tattoos. All I can say is, we were given a finite amount of "canvas" to work with. Use it wisely.

Hehe, yeah, hey ladies, it turns Marion off if we get tattoos, so be sure to get the biggest one you can, so he won't be panting anywhere near you. Whereas he's turned off by chicks with tatts, I'm turned off by creepy, racist old men that have a blowhard opinion about everything, that's usually wrong.

I have the purple rose of Cairo on my right ankle. The inspiration was to anger my mother (I was only 18) but I've never regretted it. It's a one of a kind design, the guy who did it is dead so I don't have to worry about him copying it onto anyone else and it has never faded because I stay out of the sun. Now when I look at my tattoo, I can remember the days when I was a little wild and free and since I love nostalgia, it all works out.

If my kid ever wanted a tattoo -- I would take him see the parade of tattoo banality that is Oceans of Fun.

If he actually had something that was unique and creative, and still wanted it after seeing his probable future, I wouldn't really object.

Marion/NickDanger/Hewalksagainbynight -

Whew. You have too many names. Anyhoo, the female species now knows your opinion and I'm sure they'll take it into account at their next meeting.

I absolutely HATE tattoos on women! I cannot understand why a perfectly beautiful woman would want to "adorn" herself with some idiotic drawing!

It just gags me when I see some otherwise attaractive woman lean forward a bit and there is that little spider, bug, Oriental letter or gawdknowswhat in the "v" of her cheeks.

I mean if I want a primitive tribeswoman all tattoed up, I will go find one but I am sickened by the current tattoo craze.

Tattoos are for marines, gypsy fortune tellers and Popeye The Freaking Sailor Man.

Ghastly!

I have an eye on my ankle. Coolest thing I could think of in my friend's basement at 17 years old, and it was, at least, simple enough to allow it to look alright using just a needle and india ink.

Probably wasn't a good idea though.

Wow, close-ups!!! Scary.

Jack Black appears to have lost a few pounds...