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Should federal taxpayer money go to support the research of stem cells taken from human embryos?

Asked at Borders, 700 N.H. on January 12, 2007

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“No. I think there needs to be more research on it before it’s federally funded to find out if it’s really going to be worthwhile.”

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“Yes. It just makes sense for the common good.”

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“I think it should, because it could be beneficial in so many different ways.”

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“Yeah. It could lead to life-saving cures for cancer and many other diseases. From what I’ve heard, the embryos that they use for the research are those that are being thrown out anyway.”

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boldaq 7 years, 2 months ago

"I don't know why there is even a debate about stem cell research. It is a valid, very useful area of research with a lot of potential benifits." - tweakin

Research has identified 72 successful applications for the medical uses of ADULT Stem Cells. Embryonic Stem Cell research has produced NOTHING. Except another excuse to kill unwanted human beings.

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TweakinTopekan 7 years, 2 months ago

Hey Agnostick. You seem to know a lot about artificial reproduction. "First Hand" knowledge?

I don't know why there is even a debate about stem cell research. It is a valid, very useful area of research with a lot of potential benifits. It should definately be funded with "Tax payers money". We already subsidize a lot of bio-warfare and research into more ways to kill people. And the whole "Tax payer funding" thing is nothing more the talking-point verbage meant to get people riled up against things.

The only other use for human embryos is to artificially make babies for impotent little petty tyrants that God didn't want to reproduce anyway.


Now go ahead Agnostick, start flailing your arms about, hitting "Suggest removal" and crying to the moderators. Thats what petty little impotent tyrants do best. Either that or wind up spastic psychopaths to do their slanderous bidding for them.

I guess THATS why God didn't want some people to reproduce. And I suppose THAT might be a good enough reason to ban stem cell research.

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deec 7 years, 3 months ago

And if you heard it on Faux News, it must be true and we must be outraged en masse.

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jimincountry 7 years, 3 months ago

How gullible we are! If some fast talker or likable celebrity gets press coverage from liberals like the NYT then the ignorant will say it is so very, very important.

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boldaq 7 years, 3 months ago

"I guarantee that as soon as the creation of new embryonic stem cell lines is permitted, the flow of private money will resume and likely yield great results." - log04

If you can guarantee it, shouldn't you be putting your money where your mouth is while they're cheap? STEM - CM:ASTM - GM:GERN

"There is currently a federal BAN on the creation of new embryonic stem cell lines for research." - log04

The only limits in question are on federal funding of new embryonic stem cell lines, requiring the sacrifice of new embryos. Private and state-funded research (California voters are spending six billion dollars borrowing money to fund this) is ongoing. The implicit claim that research based on new embryos is "the most promising" is absurd, completely unsupported by the scientific literature, and an insult to voters, based as it is on the assumption that they are incapable of understanding the issue. Too stupid to tell the difference, is the elitist assumption underlying this campaign.

Adult Stem Cells: 72, Embryonic Stem Cells: 0 - UPDATED

That's the number of successful applications research has identified for the medical uses of Adult Stem Cells vs Embryonic Stem Cells.

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logicsound04 7 years, 3 months ago

"Not providing federal funding for a "business" does not constitute a ban."


Try to follow the conversation Go-doh!. There is currently a federal BAN on the creation of new embryonic stem cell lines for research. While that may not erase the means of doing privately funded research, it will certainly hinder investors willingness to spend money because of the signal it sends about that particular industry. If you had any business sense, you would understand that investors make their choices, not only based on current situations, but also based on what they think is likely to occur. Since the ban on the creation of new lines is one step closer to banning research on embryonic stem cells ENTIRELY, it makes many investors wary of losing their investment.

I will cut you some slack, however, as I know you are not here to follow the conversation. You would much rather make little quips about how I sound like George Soros; Hi-LAR-ious!!!

It's hard to expect much from someone who sees a stem cell as a human life.

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Godot 7 years, 3 months ago

Bush bought a little time by limiting federal funding of reserach on embryos to a few lines of embryos....enough time for other sources of stem cells, those that to do not require the destruction of human life, to come to fruition.

Good for Bush.

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Godot 7 years, 3 months ago

logicsound wrote: "As far as private investment in embryonic stems cells--how ready do you think investors are going to be to fork over cash for an industry that has been, in some capacity, banned by the government? "

What a completely Sorositian thing to say.

LOL!!!! You have morphed the definition of "ban" to a new low. Not providing federal funding for a "business" does not constitute a ban.

Your buddy George won't spend the money to invest in embryonic stem cell research because he knows it is a losing proposition. He wants the taxpayers to fund the research, and then, if, and I repeat, IF, anything comes of it, he will piggy back off the taxpayer funded research to bankroll another Soros enterprise.

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Richard Heckler 7 years, 3 months ago

This is a Bush way to avoid funding a practice with huge positive potential aka terrorist funding(Bush should look into a mirror):

As for the real costs of the war, they could hardly be clearer. Targeted for cutbacks in federal money are virtually all social programs--Medicare and Medicaid, food stamps, housing, job training and child care, education and student loans, environmental protection, public transportation, science research, even veterans' benefits and school funding for children of military personnel.

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Tom Shewmon 7 years, 3 months ago

Hey this Jessica King OTS'r----hottie---just noticed...I'd do some research with her!!

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Tom Shewmon 7 years, 3 months ago

logicsound04---it is abundantly clear EVERYTHING comes down to money.

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H_Lecter 7 years, 3 months ago

I don't know if federal funding is needed (I'm thinking Nabisco), I'm betting they'd be better than caviar on the right cracker.

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logicsound04 7 years, 3 months ago

hmmmmm,

I don't know who to trust about the facts on stem cells curing disease.

First, we have jen82, a self-proclaimed, non-profit researcher. While I must admit I have no proof of jen's true profession, I have no reason not to believe her. Then we have boldaq, a poster with a history of using sensationalism and extremism to push an anti-abortion agenda.

On the one hand, adult stem cells have only produced 9 cures because they are less "pliable" than the embryonic ones. On the other, adult stem cells have cured 72 diseases.

All I'll say is that I sure as hell don't trust boldaq (or anyone who refers to fetuses as babies) on any issue related to human reproduction.


As far as private investment in embryonic stems cells--how ready do you think investors are going to be to fork over cash for an industry that has been, in some capacity, banned by the government? I guarantee that as soon as the creation of new embryonic stem cell lines is permitted, the flow of private money will resume and likely yield great results.

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moralebooster 7 years, 3 months ago

I think we should spend the money on plastic surgery to make this a nation of beautiful people.

I can see it now, other countries will be so jealous, that their suicide bombers will explode from envy.

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Katie_Horner 7 years, 3 months ago

Holy Cow Gootsie, Don't you think I haven't been busy? Of Course WE'RE ALL GOING TO FREEZE TO DEATH!!!! Exciting to think about isn't it? Jaycat, Bite your tongue; I just got the weight off. I'll still be the most fertile weatherperson in KC (not just because half of them are gay - I'm not making that up).

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Tom Shewmon 7 years, 3 months ago

I think it's Ok if federal funding can also find a cure for hemorrhoids-----this has plagued mankind since the beginning.

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boldaq 7 years, 3 months ago

Step right up, suckers, get 'em while they're hot & cheap. On the NASDAQ -

STEM - CM:ASTM - GM:GERN

If you really believe ECR isn't a scam, put your money where your mouth is.

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budwhysir 7 years, 3 months ago

Hello all, it is good to be back in my chair, pondering the wonderfull facts brought to us by this excellent political pounding forum

Federal funding???? I believe that would be an account comprised of our federal tax dollars. So, I suggest we use our federal tax dollars to take care of each problem one by one

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yourworstnightmare 7 years, 3 months ago

Godot,

We have some unfinished business. I would like to know your answer to the query I posted a week or so ago:

"Godot, your answer to my second question is interesting. Lets discuss it.

I asked if a woman should be forced to give birth even if it might kill her.

Your response was " No, and no pro-lifer suggests that."

Interesting. So, in your mind (the pro-life mind), the life of the mother is more important to preserve than the life of the fetus? Why do you believe this? Why is it not a draw?"

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yourworstnightmare 7 years, 3 months ago

"But, Boldaq, the problem is that there are public institutions and individuals of great power who have a major investment in EMBRYONIC stem cell research who stand to suffer a major economic setback if information like yours sees the light of day....."

Godot, this is good-sounding populist paranoid rant often seen from those on the left.

You are incorrect, however. The "major investment" in embryonic stem cell research was consolidated at the University of Wisconsin when Bush banned the creation of any new lines, and only those generated at UW could be used (for a tidy fee, of course).

So, you have almost exactly backwards. Bush and his buddy Tommy Thompson from WI cut a deal to create a ES cell monnopoly.

Tommy Thompson was Secretary of Health and Human Services at the time.

HHS oversees National Institutes of Health, from where the vast majority of biomedical research money emanates.

Dang, Godot, that pesky reality again, biting you in the arse...

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The_Original_Bob 7 years, 3 months ago

"Among the diseases cured by ADCR are..." Boldaq

Horse Biosolids. Those diseases are cured? You are the Least with your lies.

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JayCat_67 7 years, 3 months ago

Maybe Katie's gettin' busy making another little Horner ;-)

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Godot 7 years, 3 months ago

But, Boldaq, the problem is that there are public institutions and individuals of great power who have a major investment in EMBRYONIC stem cell research who stand to suffer a major economic setback if information like yours sees the light of day.....

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boldaq 7 years, 3 months ago

So far, there have been 0 cures found from embryonic stem cell research. Zero. Zip. Zilch. Nada. In fact, there have been so few results from embryonic stem cell research that money from private investors is diminishing. That is because embryonic stem cell research is the worst investment ever made.

Adult stem cell research has had the opposite impact. It has cured patients with 72 different diseases so far! In fact, the British Medical Journal said last year that "the need for fetal cells as a source of stem cells for medical research may soon be eclipsed by the more readily available and less controversial adult stem cells."

Among the diseases cured by ADCR are:

Brain Cancer Retinoblastoma Ovarian Cancer Skin Cancer: Merkel Cell Carcinoma Testicular Cancer Tumors abdominal organs Lymphoma Non-Hodgkin's lymphoma Hodgkin's Lymphoma Acute Lymphoblastic Leukemia Acute Myelogenous Leukemia Chronic Myelogenous Leukemia Juvenile Myelomonocytic Leukemia Chronic Myelomonocytic Leukemia Multiple Myeloma Myelodysplasia Breast Cancer Neuroblastoma Renal Cell Carcinoma Various Solid Tumors Soft Tissue Sarcoma Ewing's Sarcoma

Myelofibrosis Auto-Immune Diseases Cardiovascular Acute Heart Damage Chronic Coronary Artery Disease Ocular Corneal regeneration Immunodeficiencies Severe Combined Immunodeficiency Syndrome Parkinson's Disease Spinal Cord Injury Stroke Damage Anemias and Other Blood Conditions Osteopetrosis Cerebral X-Linked Adrenoleukodystrophy Liver Disease Chronic Liver Failure Liver Cirrhosis Bladder Disease Wounds and Injuries

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Gootsie 7 years, 3 months ago

Maybe we can get Gary Lezak to post here. Katie obviously is waaaaay too busy.

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Gootsie 7 years, 3 months ago

R_I, you spoketh too thoon.

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logicsound04 7 years, 3 months ago

"Why kill babies when so much has already been done with adult stem cells..."


Ahhh, so now not only are FETUSES considered babies, but embryonic stem cells are as well? Why don't we just start classifying sperm as babies too? It seems to be the next logical step.

*as if any of the "pro-life" reasoning is LOGICAL!!!

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RETICENT_IRREVERENT 7 years, 3 months ago

Semi-quiet posting day for a "hot" topic.

I can only attribute this quietness to the "cyber smootching" posts on the OTS last night.

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ms_canada 7 years, 3 months ago

Das_U - well then that does not sound so bad, if others will benefit. I was just thinking about the Dems call for a raise is the minimum wage and wondering what kind of a fight would be seen there. In light of that, I call $50 mil a year obscene. But then, one must think of all the people that would benefit when those millions are spent in restaurants, nightclubs and clothing stores etc. Eh? as we Canucks are wont to say. :o)

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The_Original_Bob 7 years, 3 months ago

Gootsie -

I've received word from Gary Lezak...

"New data is in."

The ball is in your court, Katie.

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Bone777 7 years, 3 months ago

person_of_interest -

That sounds good to me, but I think the yield of viable cells per participant could be in the single digits.

You can't make chicken soup out of chicken sh...........

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Das_Ubermime 7 years, 3 months ago

You know, I think you are right harley. Of course, with the date on that photo, that would make that the very first evidence for round-a-bouts in human history. If we are right, that means that round-a-bouts are North American in origin. The next time I drive through a round-a-bout, I'm referring to it as "Sitting Bull's Revenge".

Not to worried about Beckham's salary Ms. C. Most of (80% or more?) it is the estimate for sponsorship deals. If this is the case, I seriously doubt if he will be making that $250 mill over the next 5 years.

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Gootsie 7 years, 3 months ago

KATIE HORNER WHERE ARE YOU???? Getting your hair done for the weather marathon this weekend?

Speak up! Are we gonna die?

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jen82 7 years, 3 months ago

Adult stem cells have only produced 9 FDA approved cures, they are less flexible, and more likely to contain toxins or genetic defects. ES cells hold much more promise - we just need the money and time (Adult stem cells were discovered in the 60s and have $2.24billion in federal funds, ES cells discovered in 1998 and have $55million in federal funds) for research. ES cells can become any tissue in the body, while adult stem cells cannot. Amniotic stem cells could only be used on that child, or related family members, with the risk of rejection similar to organ donation. In addition, amniotic stem cells are still already partly specialized. The major point is, however, that we should continue to work on ALL 3 types, and not abandon any particular one.

Finally, the federal government funds all kinds of research already that you just don't hear about, but you would probably recognize the drugs. Many ridiculously priced treatments are the result of NIH funds. While it would be nice (and I think it should happen for most things) to have free access to these treatments, the discoveries made with NIH (government funds) are almost always handed over to private pharmaceutical companies. This is not only a stem cell issue. Bottom line is that the results of all federally funded research should be easily and affordably (or freely) available to taxpayers.

Those are the facts.

-jen. (research scientist w/KC not-for-profit)

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ms_canada 7 years, 3 months ago

Stem cell question, yes. Aside from that, what think ye all of the obscene $250 mil package offered to, orrrrrr was it demanded by Beckham? Thoughts.

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blue73harley 7 years, 3 months ago

Das - I see there are fans of roundabouts in Sheboygan, too- suggested caption for the dead horse - "Confused and exhausted after several unsuccessful attempts navigating the Eighth Street round-about, Wilbur Schmidt and his horse, Amanda, take a well-deserved rest."

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Das_Ubermime 7 years, 3 months ago

What would be really awesome would be if it worked like a Final Fantasy game with little Saddam Hussein and George Bush characters facing each other. Hussein attacks by waving a rifle in the air and launching his "Choking Pretzel" attack. Attack does -50 damage.

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beatrice 7 years, 3 months ago

Can I beat a zombie horse? Lord knows I wouldn't want to ride one.

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sgtwolverine 7 years, 3 months ago

I think I was visualizing Iraq Attack! as some sort of old-school video game. Maybe not Commodore 64 old, but somewhere between SNES and N64, with a version for the PC.

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Godot 7 years, 3 months ago

Does this new bill include the same amount of funding for amiotic stem cell research?

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person_of_interest 7 years, 3 months ago

Bone,

Can we just take stem cells from the homeless?

You know, like tell them that they can't have any food, shelter or booze and/or ciggies unless they sign a written consent allowing their heads to be sliced open and a portion of their stem cells removed (whatever's left of them).

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Das_Ubermime 7 years, 3 months ago

Um, I meant that Godot will be the first to fall...

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Das_Ubermime 7 years, 3 months ago

Damn Bea! Godot isn't describing the Iraq Attack (you know, that kinda sounds like a board game), he is leaking plans for my creation of an army of nanobot zombie ninjas. That's okay though. My plans cannot possibly be stopped at this conjuncture and all Godot has succeeded in doing is assuring he will fall under the force of their undead ninjitsu heals.

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deec 7 years, 3 months ago

I know, I will get Congress to provide taxpayer money to fund my idea, to the tune of millions and millions of dollars. I will do it by playing on peoples' emotions, promising that I am going to solve their problems, and that, if I do not get the money, they will suffer into eternity.

And I will operate as a not-for-profit organization so I don't have to pay real estate taxes, or tax on profit (if it every develops) and I will pay me and my staff reallly, really, big salaries because I can. After all, the Feds are giving me the money with absolutely no accountability or oversight. Or any religious institution.

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The_Original_Bob 7 years, 3 months ago

"It is winter in Kansas, afer all." Grandma Gootsie

Yep. 67 degrees one day. White stuff the next.

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Gootsie 7 years, 3 months ago

Bea, no horse beating, you hear?

Ok in Lawrence. It is winter in Kansas, afer all.

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trinity 7 years, 3 months ago

where IS katie horner when ya need her???? yikes, it's icing like mad here in beautiful miami county kansas!

friday friday friDAY friday friday friDAY!!! :)

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sunflower_sue 7 years, 3 months ago

I'm all for stem cell research and federal funding is okie dokie with me.

Has the freezing rain come? Still grogeous here in Bangalore. I can so see why ExPat would want to come here. Maybe I'll run into her/him at the spa.

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Gootsie 7 years, 3 months ago

Stem cell treatment on my daddy may have enabled him to be with me longer. I'm for it. Using federal money though? If that keeps it available for the common folks, absolutely. I don't know.

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JoRight 7 years, 3 months ago

To put subjective reasoning aside, federal funding in R&D in anything (whether it be electronics, cars, superman's kryptonite) will get the U.S. ahead of the pack. I see biotech as a wave of the future and if the U.S. wants to lead the pack, the federal funding will be necessary.

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Godot 7 years, 3 months ago

No, Beatrice, go beat that horse on another thread.

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galfromku 7 years, 3 months ago

Posted by Whatever_the_Second (anonymous) on January 12, 2007 at 6:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Why kill babies when so much has already been done with adult stem cells...Then there is the blood from the umbilical cord.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX This question is NOT about babies, abortion or ethics. It says,

"Should federal taxpayer money go to support the research of stem cells taken from human embryos?"

It could be adult human cells they use or cord blood. Don't try to make this into an anti abortion issue. It is just asking if govt. money should be used for research.

I agree that if the Govt. pays for the research, it would not be fair for the pharmaceutical lords to reap the benefits!

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sgtwolverine 7 years, 3 months ago

Bea, I think he would have said "billions of dollars" if he meant the Iraq Attack.

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beatrice 7 years, 3 months ago

Godot, I believe you just described the war in Iraq.

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Godot 7 years, 3 months ago

I have a new venture that I would like to explore, I do not know if it will work, and it might actually do harm, but the hope is there. Problem is, no private investor will take a chance on me.

I know, I will get Congress to provide taxpayer money to fund my idea, to the tune of millions and millions of dollars. I will do it by playing on peoples' emotions, promising that I am going to solve their problems, and that, if I do not get the money, they will suffer into eternity.

And I will operate as a not-for-profit organization so I don't have to pay real estate taxes, or tax on profit (if it every develops) and I will pay me and my staff reallly, really, big salaries because I can. After all, the Feds are giving me the money with absolutely no accountability or oversight.

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Godot 7 years, 3 months ago

No, Federal money should not be used. Gates, Buffett and Soros should pony up the money.

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Agnostick 7 years, 3 months ago


REPRODUCTIVE SERVICES, INC. 456 Springfield Avenue Anytown, USA 12345-6789

INVITRO FERTILIZATION (IVF) UNIT ZYGOTE RELEASE AND CONSENT FORM

"The IVF process almost always results in a number of fertilized eggs that will not be implanted in the woman's uterus. Knowing this, what would you like done with these extra embryos? (Check one)"

__ Please humanely destroy them

__ Please donate them to a stem cell research facility

__ We would like to discuss the cryogenic preservation process, for future use.

__ We would like to discuss donating them to another infertile couple


Agnostick agnostick@excite.com

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sgtwolverine 7 years, 3 months ago

For once, I will join the friday-friday-friDAY line, because after last week's Saturday workday, I'm back to a normal actual happy Friday.

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beatrice 7 years, 3 months ago

RI, I have no idea what you are talking about. However, I certainly wouldn't exclude sgtw from any club.

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Pywacket 7 years, 3 months ago

YES.

Hey--be careful out there; it's already slick.

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RETICENT_IRREVERENT 7 years, 3 months ago

Bea,

Are you going to induct sgt into the reversible club?

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beatrice 7 years, 3 months ago

Gods, let us not turn this into another thread on inferior nanobot zombies.

Well, the secretary of the department of redundancy department also says friday-friday-friDAY!

Yes on stem-cell research. It will lead to a truly reliable zombie army.

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Gootsie 7 years, 3 months ago

Hey Katie Horner, what's up with this weather? Are we gonna die?

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RETICENT_IRREVERENT 7 years, 3 months ago

sgt,

"I do vary wildly between cynicism and idealism" You think?

Should you be included in Bea's "reversable" club too?

I will take mine hunter orange one side, real tree camo the other.

Welcome to the club sgt.

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Gootsie 7 years, 3 months ago

Well the Secretary of the Irrelevant says,

friday-friday-friDAY! friday-friday-friDAY!

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sgtwolverine 7 years, 3 months ago

I know it's gotta come from somewhere -- I just think it would go beyond profit-seeking (which I do not say in a completely negative way) industry.

Of course, I do vary wildly between cynicism and idealism, and I think we know where this one goes.

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Das_Ubermime 7 years, 3 months ago

I wasn't necessarily referring to state universities, just the funding sources which support the professors at state universities. Money gotta come from somewhere.

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sgtwolverine 7 years, 3 months ago

Incidentally, das, I should probably note that I'm not saying we should cut state universities. (I know they are a source of a great deal of research -- I live near the U of Michigan, and they like to note their accomplishments.)

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Das_Ubermime 7 years, 3 months ago

I understand your point sgt, but there are all too many fields of knowledge which would be heavily (if not even wholly in some cases) stiffled by reducing government spending. The problem with relying on industry to advance knowledge is that industry tends to be short-sighted and self-centered when it comes to research.

blue73harley, If you listen to that old-timer, Beatrice, you can use stem cells to reanimate zombies, but my money is and has always been on nanobots.

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ksmoderate 7 years, 3 months ago

Whatever the second,

Embryonic Stem Cell Research is not killing babies. And, the gov't. is only considering funding for those embryos that are scheduled for destruction by fertility clinics. Why incinerate an embryo without using it for research first?

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ronwell_dobbs 7 years, 3 months ago

In the highly scientific poll at the top of this page, 75% say 'Yeah' and 25% say 'Nay'. Could it be what we call the "Lecompton Effect"?

/physics pun

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i_tching 7 years, 3 months ago

Imagine there's no cancer. Or no Alzheimers, no Parkinsons. No traumatic loss of function if nerve tissue could be regenerated after spinal cord injury.

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sgtwolverine 7 years, 3 months ago

Das, I don't think private research would be insufficient if the government were a shadow of its current self, financially speaking. Research may be structured with government funding in mind, but it doesn't need to be that way, and I'm not so sure it would suffer if it restructured itself without government funding ... if the government seriously downsized.

If that government money just went elsewhere within government spending, then yes, there would be a problem.

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trinity 7 years, 3 months ago

wow will it be inappropriate to start a conga line on this thread???

i like geekin's response&agree. well said, geekin.

and jonas-"Gods, let us not turn this into another thread on abortion." hah, in your dreams baby! ;)

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Bone777 7 years, 3 months ago

I just thought of something.....

If we could get the homeless to research stem cells.

Two birds with one stone. I like it!

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RETICENT_IRREVERENT 7 years, 3 months ago

Stem cells are also found in amniotic fluid. We all know this fluid just goes to waste and ruin.

One minute you have a brand new leather office chair, the next minute your spousal unit has baptised it, and it is forever... well...forever changed. It gets soaked up by the multiple towels you have carefully lined your vehicle with to protect its interior, but this torques your spousal units maturnity shorts. ("there are like 9 layers of towels here... your a equine posterior") It puddles on your new hardwood floor, as you struggle to clean it up, your spousal unit chides you for not "getting going".

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Bone777 7 years, 3 months ago

Heck yes, but since I don't have any say in the many frivilous ways the government spends money, I don't figure I'll have any say in this either, so.....

Just give the money to the homeless.

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Das_Ubermime 7 years, 3 months ago

I don't think the government should spend less in general as much as they should spend less on specific things. Research and Development of health issues especially is not one of them. Two or three million dollars can go a long way to supplement the research financed by industry.

Of course, no pharmaceutical company is going to provide medication on the terms which g-t outlined, and the government should not be in the business of manufacturing drugs. It is probably more realistic for the gov. to sell the patent for any publicly developed drug to the highest bidder (absolutely none of that 'no bid contract' business).

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Whatever_the_Second 7 years, 3 months ago

Why kill babies when so much has already been done with adult stem cells...

http://www.stemcellresearch.org/facts/asc-refs.pdf

Then there is the blood from the umbilical cord.

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RETICENT_IRREVERENT 7 years, 3 months ago

Yes. It should be internationally, and galatically funded also.

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sgtwolverine 7 years, 3 months ago

Maybe the government should spend less in general. So no.

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jonas 7 years, 3 months ago

Gonna go with Geekin' Topekan on this. If research is federally funded, then big pharmacueticals should not be allowed later to patent it and screw the taxpayers out of the benefits.

Gods, let us not turn this into another thread on abortion.

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Melanie Birge 7 years, 3 months ago

Yes it needs to pass, I am 100% for it. I think maybe reasoning is going against it because the impack it will have on so many. We have only been able to treat to supress, never to cure. Why start now.....

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Harry_Manback 7 years, 3 months ago

Yes, I think so.

I don't understand why people are opposed to stem cell research. Abortions will happen regardless of legality, and at least using stem cells makes some use of what would be deemed in pro-lifers' eyes as a "senseless death." The tissue from the fetus will be destroyed otherwise, might as well use it to save a life.

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geekin_topekan 7 years, 3 months ago

Sure,but with the stipulation that any miracle cures it provides is given just as freely back to the taxpayers. In other words,make it a Two-way street.No drug manufacturer shall deny life saving medication to anyone for any reason.

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