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Which U.S. president do you most admire?

Asked at Hastings Books Music & Videos, 1900 W. 23rd St. on February 19, 2007

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“Probably Abraham Lincoln. He had the toughest job.”

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“I’d say Truman. I just think he did a lot for our country. I like his integrity and what he stood for.”

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“Clinton. The reason I like him is that he defeated the first Bush and he was the best Democratic president in recent history.”

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“It would probably be Abraham Lincoln, because of what he did during the Civil War to try and bring everyone back together again.”

Comments

Flap Doodle 7 years, 10 months ago

To be filed under 'faint praise', refering to Clinton as the best Democratic President in recent history. He and Carter are the ONLY Democratic Presidents since LBJ left the White House in January of 1969. (Sorry, Caps Lock got stuck there for a moment)

andrew55 7 years, 10 months ago

Hillary Rodham Clinton. She ran the country but couldn't run Bill. That's a tough job.

sgtwolverine 7 years, 10 months ago

Is Andy Brucel wearing a K-State hat?

I like Grover Cleveland. Just because his name was Grover.

Sen_Fudgepack 7 years, 10 months ago

George Washington and Abe.... George because he didn't want to be president... Then he refused to accept a king-like position and set the term limits precedent that FDR didn't like.... I guess George Washington was the anti-George W Shrub....

Also, Abe because he had the guts to say that slavery was wrong... I know his positions were a little sketchy but he did take the first step which was very courageous IMO...

ive_got_my_ascot_n_my_dickie 7 years, 10 months ago

Ben Franklin. He was a genius that had more class than Dubya the Chimp or any other neocon could ever muster.

Nikki May 7 years, 10 months ago

Ben Franklin was pretty darn cool, but technically only the president of Pennsylvania.

nut_case 7 years, 10 months ago

I'd say any president that has served during war time as it is almost always a no-win situation.

America is generally isolationist and media has forced us into an attention span of about 5 minutes. If the war can't be fought and won before the sensational headlines die down, we get bored and want an end. So we have to fall back to history...do we sit on our hands and wait 'till we're almost speaking German, or rely an Mutual Assured Destruction and hope the other side has the common sense to not pull the trigger, or try and spark democracy like Vietnam, Korea and Iraq.

The next few years will certainly be interesting...we face an enemy that wants us dead as any cost and has nothing to loose and almost nothing to retaliate against when they do carry out that plan.

sgtwolverine 7 years, 10 months ago

Franklin was a president? I was in the wrong history class.

I'm surprised today's question didn't read, "Which U.S. president do you most admir"

Bruce Rist 7 years, 10 months ago

I'd have to say Ben Franklin and Thomas Dewey

boldaq 7 years, 10 months ago

George W. Bush. He's fighting the most dangerous enemy this country has ever faced while being under constant attack from left-wing whackos who's goal is the same as our enemies - to defeat America.

Osama + Murtha = same thing

Bruce Rist 7 years, 10 months ago

Any predictions on the game tonight?

I was predicting a close game until the Wildcats threw the Black Out at us. We don't have chance now. How do you compete with that??

See below

http://why.kstatesports.com/blackout/

50YearResident 7 years, 10 months ago

If the Question on the street was, Who do you think is/was the worst U.S.President ever it would have been unamious, "George W Bush"

porkchop 7 years, 10 months ago

Nutcase-- It's a nice attempt to convey intellectual legitimacy for your position on the current war by slapping some pseudo-historical "isolationist" gloss on your comments, but it's not a fine line between isolationism and and disagreeing with a policy preemptively attacking a country that didn't attack you, has no intention of attacking you, is not supporting outside elements in their attack against you, and, should your attack succeed, will create a regional power vacuum which will make it more likely that others will attack you. They simply aren't related.

I guess what I'm saying is, America's "general isolationism" doesn't have anything to do with the current Iraq debacle.

canyon_wren 7 years, 10 months ago

It is hard to pick because historians are spending so much time nowadays trying to point out all the bad things and inconsistencies about those we have always held in high regard.

Based upon my limited knowledge, I would have to pick Teddy Roosevelt for being the first president to really be concerned about saving our national treasures (national parks, etc.) and Harry Truman for his integrity and his willingness to "not pass the buck."

jonas 7 years, 10 months ago

"Posted by boldaq (anonymous) on February 19, 2007 at 8:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)

George W. Bush. He's fighting the most dangerous enemy this country has ever faced"

Errrr. . . . right.

paladin 7 years, 10 months ago

Harry Hopkins because he was humble and slept in his clothes at the office and was genuinely committed to improving the lives and futures of the little people and was in constant physical and emotional pain and really did what he was supposed to do to benefit the country. The real deal. One has to admire George Bush because, for an imbecile and a dry/wet drunk and a spoiled brat, he's done pretty well for himself, even if never by himself.

paladin 7 years, 10 months ago

George Bush's most dangerous enemy is himself. I'm not a liberal, just a regular citizen.

Ceallach 7 years, 10 months ago

America has been blessed with many men who, in serving as president, were strong enough to rise above their human inadequacies and do the right thing at the right time. The test of a good president should not be whether or not they have/had the same human frailties we all contend with each day, but whether or not they are/were able to control those traits rather than being controlled by them.

I totally agree with RI, we need a Bless Spunky Old Women and Their Hatchlings Day!!

RonBurgandy 7 years, 10 months ago

I love the people that call other people liberals everytime that other person says something that is incorrect. It's the perfect retort..

Chicago_JHawk 7 years, 10 months ago

"I love the people who talk smack on G.W and then say their favorite president was Ben Franklin. Stupid liberals...."


I love the people who don't recognize sarcasm when they read it (or references to "The Office"). Stupid conservatives...

Bone777 7 years, 10 months ago

Eisenhower - Good in war and good in peace.

Bone777 7 years, 10 months ago

Jason Lindsey (pictured above) - makes an outstanding point.

Bill Clinton was the best democratic president we have had in 'recent history'.

If recent history means since 1981...

Flap Doodle 7 years, 10 months ago

Well, this went right into ***- flinging.

Chicago_JHawk 7 years, 10 months ago

A Commander In Chief who blunders a situation at every turn does not receive a free pass because the situation may have been difficult or complicated. That being said, there has not been a president in history who handles everything perfectly, just some who handled situations less poorly than others.

Anyway, FDR gets my vote. My opinion might be different depending on whether HE would have leveled Hiroshima and Nagasaki or not had he remained in office.

mick 7 years, 10 months ago

Peter Sellers as President Merkin Muffley. The American Enterprise Institute is not doing a very good job as president right now.

sgtwolverine 7 years, 10 months ago

Das, if you went spelunking, you could look up to deceased national executives.

paladin 7 years, 10 months ago

Marithustra is always welcome back, I believe.

Redzilla 7 years, 10 months ago

I voting for Garfield, who didn't live long enough to screw too many things up.

Plus, I agree with whoever suggested we honor Carrie Nation today. Heck, I love a holiday with a built-in sense of indignation AND futility.

Flap Doodle 7 years, 10 months ago

Marion, you give yourself airs. The fact that those two sentences contained no spelling errors made me question your authorship.

trinity 7 years, 10 months ago

somebody please tell me what that blackout dealio is! my computer is messed up or something couldn't load the "message"!

oh uh re the game tonight!

ku_law 7 years, 10 months ago

All of you that said Lincoln need to go back to history class. If you read his papers/text of his speeches, you would know that Lincoln did not want to end slavery because was against it. RATHER, he wanted to end it because he thought it would preserve the Union. He even stated that if he didn't feel it would, he would not try to end it. Additionally, he also suggested that after slavery is ended, all blacks should go back to Africa b/c he did not feel they were equal.

So, do a little research before you post such a dumb answer.

Sen_Fudgepack 7 years, 10 months ago

Posted by Esq2eB (anonymous) on February 19, 2007 at 9:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I love how people assume anyone who calls liberals stupid, must be a conservative. Stupid liberals...


And you admire George W. Bush?? You aren't stupid, you're plain RETARDED...

I don't care what party you belong to... Do you know what a political party is??? You can't know much if you admire the toxic texan....

Sen_Fudgepack 7 years, 10 months ago

Posted by ku_law (anonymous) on February 19, 2007 at 10:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

All of you that said Lincoln need to go back to history class. If you read his papers/text of his speeches, you would know that Lincoln did not want to end slavery because was against it. RATHER, he wanted to end it because he thought it would preserve the Union. He even stated that if he didn't feel it would, he would not try to end it. Additionally, he also suggested that after slavery is ended, all blacks should go back to Africa b/c he did not feel they were equal.

So, do a little research before you post such a dumb answer.


Didn't you see where I said his positions were a little sketchy? It still took GUTS to end slavery so even though it is a little murky about exactly where he stood, it still gained my admiration for doing something that was widely unpopular... Even in the North...

purplesage 7 years, 10 months ago

Ronald Wilson Reagan - the great communicator. He excelled at both domestic (read economic) policy and instrumented the ultimate collapse of the Communist hold on Eastern Europe.

Of course, President's Washington, Jefferson and Lincoln are high on the list - but I can only read of them in the history books (which, sadly omitted Ben Franklin's presidency).

Anyone want to imagine Al Gore on 9/11?? W has been much maligned but he was the "man of the hour."

ForgotAboutTodd 7 years, 10 months ago

FDR because his policies did more to improve this country for ALL Americans more than any others.

Sen_Fudgepack 7 years, 10 months ago

purplesage: I can't imagine Gore sitting there for 7 minutes with some blank look on his face... I guess if Gore choked, that would put him in the same boat as the shrub...

beatrice 7 years, 10 months ago

I love how stupid people call other people stupid in order to not be looked upon as stupid themselves. Or some stupid thing like that. Stupid people.

When they say "admire," do they mean physically? If so, then I'd have to go with Kennedy. If by admire, they are referring to the job they have done, I would have to go with FDR. Roosevelt had to clean up the mess left behind by Hoover -- talk about a president that sucked!

Laura Watkins 7 years, 10 months ago

president james dale. i love jack nicholson!

paladin 7 years, 10 months ago

Garfield was a cool cat. Besides, he got shot and I have his autograph. And, I think he was fat, too. I resent the previous posts because I am, I think, as stupid and/or retarded as the next guy. I'm just thankful that I'm not a President. Things really would be fouled up, maybe even more than they are now, if that's possible.

sunflower_sue 7 years, 10 months ago

I just wish YDP would leave Poo out of this! Poo never hurt anyone and the bees can just make more hunny (yes, I spelled hunny correctly). Why not pick on Rabbit? He's just a grumpy old fella that doesn't give a darn about anyone but himself. He's the meanie who will come out and chop up your kickball with a hatchet if it lands in his yard.

President: I admire whoever is the president of the " Free Chocolate for All" coalition.

paladin 7 years, 10 months ago

And, what's up with John McCain? Is he flipped out? It could be PTSD or it might have something to do with Britney's hair, or lack of. Anyway, he's acting strangely and has been for awhile. Don't think he's drinking or doing drugs, so you can't blame it on that. I'm pretty sure I used to admire him, but don't now. Glad he's not the President.

Ceallach 7 years, 10 months ago

ku_law: some references please, especially where Abe "suggested" blacks go back to Africa because he did not feel they were equal." Not trying to pick a fight, just want some references to pick through. I'm one of those stupid independents that prefer to see statements attributed to . . . well anyone, in their original context. Thanks.

Ceallach 7 years, 10 months ago

I'm with sue, all y'all should leave poo out of it. If you must bring him into this fray at least use true quotes and spell his name correctly!

"If you live to be a hundred, I want to live to be a hundred minus one day, so I never have to live without you." - Winnie the Pooh. :)

Bone777 7 years, 10 months ago

I have to agree that Jefferson was a great president.

No president ever promoted diversity and a 'mixing of the races' like he did.

beatrice 7 years, 10 months ago

For the humorless among us -- Hoover is a brandname for a line of vacuum cleaners. Vacuum cleaners, when they work properly, suck things off the ground and place them in a receptor. Thus, Hoovers suck ... Hoover sucked.

Plus, this particular line of vacuum cleaner didn't do enough by far to stop the effects of the Depression on individual lives, thus the people forced into homelessness built shanty towns they called "Hoovervilles." Not what I would call the sign of a good leader, even if that leader is just a vacuum cleaner.

aeroscout17 7 years, 10 months ago

Dang it Marion, once again I have to agree with you; I thought this thread was going to run forever before someone talked about Teddy Roosevelt.

Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 7 years, 10 months ago

paladin, For many on this forum, if you don't support Bush, you're a liberal, despite what you believe. Bush is not a conservative. If you're conservative of the old days, you should be angry at Bush. He does not promote small government. Conservatives have to find a new name, because Bush has stolen your name. Bush supporters have turned moderates into liberals. Oh, how I long for the simple life, when words meant something.

Bone777 7 years, 10 months ago

Oreck / Bissell in 2008

Now that would really suck.

Ceallach 7 years, 10 months ago

Mighty Mouse could definitely beat up Superman . . as long as Krakatoa Katie isn't around to distract him.

http://www.bcdb.com/cartoon/19747-Mighty_Mouse_in_Krakatoa.html

dotteboy 7 years, 10 months ago

George Jefferson....Weezieeee!!!! And the way he treated his maid...what a card!

Flap Doodle 7 years, 10 months ago

Universe Man could beat up Superman. BTW, good one, D_U.

paladin 7 years, 10 months ago

Ãbermensch is dead, except for the one which still dwells among us here. Mighty Mouse will never die because he is a cartoon, not unlike the one here who is a caricature of himself, but a figment of his own imagination. So, its no contest. The will to power can, at times, produce some fascinating and/or humorous characters, but rarely a great President or a scholar. FDR, ala Harry Hopkins, was tops in my funnybook, as far as Presidents go.

Janet Lowther 7 years, 10 months ago

William Henry Harrison did less damage to the republic than any other president.

Calvin Coolidge was the best president of the 20th century.

Lincoln was the absolute worst president in history: No other country in the world fought a war to end slavery. Mr. Lincoln's war was about promoting the interests of northern manufacturing and transportation corporations and was in direct violation of the tenth amendment.

Teapot9 7 years, 10 months ago

Richard Nixon

Bill Clinton wasnt too bad since he was much more of a Republican ehhh well maybe more of a spineless Democrat.

beatrice 7 years, 10 months ago

"He was a very good man that happened to get steamrollered by events."

Great presidents don't get steamrolled. Great presidents do the steamrollering. See FDR for an example -- that guy could roll!

Seriously, any other president have shanty towns named after them?

1derer 7 years, 10 months ago

Thank you, I know understand the meaning of the term "yellow dog."

Flap Doodle 7 years, 10 months ago

"...Carter was put in a bad spot from jump street (before you ask why use your mind and it will come)"

Johny Depp had it in for Carter?

Ceallach 7 years, 10 months ago

Now you've done it, Py, I'm off to the vending machines :)

Linda Aikins 7 years, 10 months ago

TOB - I'll play.

"I love how Wildcat people call other people Wildcats in order to not be looked upon as Wildcats themselves. Or some Wildcat thing like that. Wildcat people."

beatrice 7 years, 10 months ago

I swear, some people have to be spoon-fed a joke.

But no joke is that I will admire our NEXT president, be it Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama.

Crispian Paul 7 years, 10 months ago

Posted by Esq2eB (anonymous) on February 19, 2007 at 8:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I love the people who talk smack on G.W and then say their favorite president was Ben Franklin. Stupid liberals....

OK, I am a liberal and I know that Ben Franklin was not president. That's a stupid generalization based on the fact that you clearly don't like liberals and thus must attribute the stupidity here to be from liberals.

Crispian Paul 7 years, 10 months ago

Posted by Marion: Perhaps the LJW Staff Gnomes will let this post stand?

Marion, You don't gnome me.

Ceallach 7 years, 10 months ago

I think we need to go back to the "What is your favorite ice cream" question, then maybe we can go past 100 and the majority of the posts will remain sweet.

Crispian Paul 7 years, 10 months ago

I know I will probably get slammed for this, but I think Jimmy Carter was one of the most under-appreciated presidents in history. His skills in diplomacy coupled with his "home spun" demeanor mean to me that people have an innate respect for his ability to walk the line between both "sides". To this day, he continues act on behalf of US diplomacy...

bevy 7 years, 10 months ago

Thomas Jefferson. Smartest, most talented guy to ever hold the office, IMHO. He tried to get slavery abolished in the Constitution, you know. Yes, I'm aware that he owned slaves. His were all freed when he died.

Cheers to whomever (I think it was Marion) reminded you all not to view the events of yesteryear through the eyes of today. Lincoln's view of blacks was no different than many others of his time - including many abolitionists.

sunflower_sue 7 years, 10 months ago

I agree with Crispian. I'm a Carter lover! I admit it! (And I think RI had the hots for Amy...although he will try to deny it!)

OK all you far righties, balls in your court. Play nice.

Ceal, chunky monkey :)

beatrice 7 years, 10 months ago

Ceal -- "I think we need to go back to the 'What is your favorite ice cream' question."

I agree. My favorite is Ben and Jerry's "Neo-Cons are Ruining our Country Cookie Crunch," followed by "Liberals are better than Conservatives Chocolate."

As I suspectect when I saw today's question, any political question will lead us down a Rocky Road.

Crispian Paul 7 years, 10 months ago

I am a fan of plain vanilla ice cream as well as caramel flavored ice cream. (And Jimmy Carter!)

sunflower_sue 7 years, 10 months ago

And anything with peanut butter! God bless the peanut farmers of America!

great, now I have to swing by Sheridan's and get a Reece's peanut butter concrete...

Monument was a go w/ the "Reaganomics/Trickle down fountain." I nixed the Jodie Foster idea.

BunE 7 years, 10 months ago

Bill Clinton was the single greatest president. Hands down.

sunflower_sue 7 years, 10 months ago

RI, Oh, I get all the credit, especially since I've had to spend all my time since explaining over and over what "Reaganomics" is/was/whatever! (And you'd just accuse me of taking all the credit anyway.)

Crispian Paul 7 years, 10 months ago

Trickle Down Economics....AKA "VooDoo Economics"...

Tychoman 7 years, 10 months ago

James Garfield or Millard Fillmore. I couldn't possibly choose.

Flap Doodle 7 years, 10 months ago

Where did you copy & paste that from, Marion?

hottruckinmama 7 years, 10 months ago

Posted by beatrice (anonymous) on February 19, 2007 at 2:31 p.m. (Suggest removal) Seriously, any other president have shanty towns named after them? no. but then bush still has almost 2 more years in office..

i think my most admired would be fdr. i think it will take someone with his wisdom to straighten the mess that we are in today. next would be ol' give 'em he!! harry.

Flap Doodle 7 years, 10 months ago

Marion, I meant your post: "The near complete lack of knowledge and understanding of American history evidenced by some of the posters on this thread is appalling. No wonder this country is in the mess that it is." Is that another C&P job?

jonas 7 years, 10 months ago

Your rationale is that he was voted in a second term?

Doesn't take much to please you, does it?

Newell_Post 7 years, 10 months ago

I most admire our first President, Samuel Huntington.

nbnozzy 7 years, 10 months ago

No votes for James Monroe (who was a very popular President in his times) or James K Polk who died of some serious diahrrea?

Zachary Taylor or Andrew Jackson, the ex professional soldiers?

anyone even remember Buchanan?

now, have we named them all in this looooooooong thread?

beatrice 7 years, 10 months ago

rt: "GWB, two termer, picked by Americans."

You are correct. Supreme court justices do qualify as Americans. It is just too bad he wasn't picked by the American people.

Crispian Paul 7 years, 10 months ago

Posted by right_thinker (anonymous) on February 19, 2007 at 8:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

GWB, two termer, picked by Americans.

Well, Only the second time.....GW was only the second president in history to win the electoral votes while losing the popular votes.....

gccs14r 7 years, 10 months ago

Lincoln may have preserved the union, but he killed the Republic. States' Rights went out the window at Appomattox.

Tychoman 7 years, 10 months ago

States' rights? I hope you're kidding, gccs14r

gccs14r 7 years, 10 months ago

The Civil War was the birth of Big Government in the U.S. The States lost their sovereignty after the war.

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