Do you support Nancy Pelosi's decision to visit Syria? / LJWorld.com

Asked at Borders, 700 N.H. on April 5, 2007

“I support it. There are obviously substantial roadblocks that need to be overcome if the situation in Iraq is ever to come to a conclusion. I think she’s taking an innovative approach, and I commend her.”

— Betsy Gaydess, industrial hygienist, Bonner Springs

“I think it’s time someone took some initiative to reach out to Syria and try to create some solution in Iraq and the Middle East in general. So if that’s what she’s trying to do, then I think it’s fine.”

— Jody Johnson, academic advisor, Lawrence

“I do. I think as a leader she needs to find out everything she can about the situation.”

— Judy Tomei, benefits officer, Lawrence

“I think it’s fantastic; it’s totally needed. Our current administration is in desperate need to be reminded why checks and balances were incorporated in the original plan for our government.”

— Gene Tyner, engineer, Lawrence

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snap_pop_no_crackle 6 years, 1 month ago

Defender, hate isn't confined to one side of the aisle.

http://www.shns.com/shns/g_index2.cfm?action=detail&pk=MURDOCK-04-05-07

Nancy Pelosi is NOT the Secretary of State. She is NOT privy to all intelligence of our "paid spies". She is Speaker of the House and also a citizen and maybe has the right to go, but it sends the wrong message and she and others should not have gone. She is undermining the intellegence agencies and troops of the US. If the Dems want to take control of the war, win the White House, for which they may, but until then, stay out of it. There are some bad people out there that want to destroy us and I don't believe she can see the forest for the trees. Playing right into their hands. But, what the heck, I guess it will take another 9/11 to prove me correct. A typical American that wants instant gratification. A sign of the times that is really troubling.

RETICENT_IRREVERENT 6 years, 1 month ago

"Damascus Nancy"?

75x55 6 years, 1 month ago

It depends ENTIRELY on what exactly the reason and message delivered is.

loudmouthrealist 6 years, 1 month ago

r-t

Why do you think that the republican lawmakers would know more about the issues than Pelosi ?

jonas 6 years, 1 month ago

rightthinker: hahahaha.

Seriously, though. Pelosi shouldn't go to Syria as the Speaker of the House.

SanFran is a great place. Although I can see why you'd be afraid of it, with so much diversity it's bound to make you nervous.

loudmouthrealist 6 years, 1 month ago

Being one who does not "cowtow" to either party, I am a bit surprised at the virulent attacks on Pelosi only.

Why no attacks on the republican law makers who just visited Syria?

http://www.thestate.com/372/story/24186.html

"Lawmakers visit Syria to discuss ties. The U.S. House members, who included Virginia Republican Frank Wolf, Pennsylvania Republican Joe Pitts and Alabama Republican Robert Aderholt, also said they had raised with Syrian officials the issue of stopping the alleged flow of foreign fighters from Syria to Iraq."

And since when has dialog become a liability when trying to resolve a conflict? The real danger is to force a opponent into a corner with no way out.

Example: the 15 British sailors in Iran.

jonas 6 years, 1 month ago

S'all right. After now I won't have any time to check this until 11 this evening. Bit of a busy day for me.

loudmouthrealist 6 years, 1 month ago

Their is no way this can be true.

"Posted by right_thinker (anonymous) on April 5, 2007 at 6:11 a.m. (Suggest removal) San Fran Nan is at this time, one of the most dangerous persons, if not THE most dangerous person, to the United States of America."

At a 33% approval rating in the USA, the approval rating around the rest of the world has to be in the single digits for our President.

He is the most dangerous person to the US at this time. He is the figure head of the USA. The great majority of the rest of the world hates HIM and his administration, not the citizens of the US.

But since the really dangerous people cant get to him they will take their anger out on us, the citizens of the US. We are the easy targets that will bear the consequences of his failure.

sgtwolverine 6 years, 1 month ago

I didn't know Syria was a vacation destination. But hey, if she wants to spend her free time there, I guess that's okay.

I supported my decision to visit Columbus, OH a few weeks ago, and I think for me as a Michigan fan, that was a much more drastic move than this whole Syria thing.

Also, I would always support a visit to Chicago, because Chicago is a great place to visit.

whistlestop75 6 years, 1 month ago

"Why no attacks on the republican law makers who just visited Syria?" -loudmouth

Seems to me that Pelosi took the whole press core with her...IS SHE throwing her hat in the ring for President? If the Dems thought they had a chance winning the moderate Republicans over for '08...she just blew their hopes...someone needs to de-flate her ego!

paladin 6 years, 1 month ago

rt-this is for you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psycholo...

Why are you angry? Get to its real source. You, too, can be a happy person, maybe. Its never too late.

consumer1 6 years, 1 month ago

lets send Jane Fonda, she is good at that sort of thing. NOT!!!!

jimincountry 6 years, 1 month ago

San Francisco is the only foreign government she should visit!

mick 6 years, 1 month ago

I think Nancy's doing a real good job representing the American people. We should be proud of her.

loudmouthrealist 6 years, 1 month ago

r-t

If, like you say, the Israelis do not want to negotiate a peaceful settlement of their ongoing mid-east conflict, why is the Bush administration spending millions of $ on negotiations. Maybe someone should tell Bush and Rice not to waste their time and our tax money trying to secure peace for the region.

But I do agree that you may be on to something here (let my cynicism kick in).

Israel receives about $ 3 billion a year in military aid from the US. This benefits Israel and it also benefits the USA because Israel spends about 40% of the back in the US with our U.S Military Industrial Complex (Raytheon, Boeing, Honeywell, GM-Hummer, Colt.......).

A lot of Americans would loose their jobs if peace were to break out in the region. If a lot of jobs are lost in America, the American people would retaliate against the current administration by voting the other party into office (it would not matter which party was currently in office, because the Dems know this just as well as the Repubs do).

Of course, if peace were to break out in the region, I am certain the US would be able to find another region somewhere else in the world, to supply aid to, for a continued, secure source of spending on our Military Industrial Complex. (Looks like Nigeria might be our next major aid recipient. We don't want to miss out on that oil).

Here are some sources on aid in general to Israel:

http://www.worldpolicy.org/projects/arms/reports/israel050602.html

http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1209/p16s01-wmgn.html

http://www.palestinemonitor.org/factsheet/US_Aid_to_Israel.htm

jimincountry 6 years, 1 month ago

Actually Lawrence might be another place suitable for a Pelosi visitation. She might learn something at a women's study course at KU.

acg 6 years, 1 month ago

I find it sadly funny how you wingers get riled up over Pelosi's trip to Syria, but have no problem with W. holding hands and kissing a representative of the country from whence 15 of the 19 hijackers originated--scenebooster

set and match!

Centrist 6 years, 1 month ago

R-T ... I think you'll find that Ohlmert echoed that sentiment about wanting to work with Syria. Ya might want to check yer facts.

As usual, Republican fear-mongering ... well done.

Having said that, I don't think ANYONE but our actual government should be 'representing' us overseas.

Not elected members of the house, speakers, senators or anyone else, just those who ARE at the international level. Members of Congress are NOT.

Nancy Pelosi can go visit all she wants, have a cup of tea, whatever. But she has no business pushing anything - she's not employed to do so.

mick 6 years, 1 month ago

Nancy Pelosi looks really hot for a woman her age.

jimincountry 6 years, 1 month ago

I think she should declare victory and retire!

beatrice 6 years, 1 month ago

"At a 33% approval rating in the USA, the approval rating around the rest of the world has to be in the single digits for our President." --- I have a single digit approval rating for our President right here.

Are we at war with Syria? If not, might they not be able to take part in discussions regarding the Middle East? I support our government's attempts to deal with world politics through conversation and negotiation instead of through military force whenever possible.

Yes, I support our Speaker of the House, and anyone who does not is anti-American and should be considered a traitor. Either you are with us or against us. To go against our Speaker is clearly giving aid to our enemies. You won't be happy until our nation is in ruins. You are just blaming America first. If you speak ill of our elected officials you should be tried for treason. (See, this game can be played both ways.)

Agnostick 6 years, 1 month ago

http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/images/larson_what_dogs_hear.jpg

Agnostick agnostick@excite.com http://www.uscentrist.org

Centrist 6 years, 1 month ago

The elephants tend to shrink to the size of the donkey in a proper conversation ..

loudmouthrealist 6 years, 1 month ago

Actually Congress and the Senate are paid to represent us. Why else would our (KS) elected officials go overseas to promote agricultural (and other) business with foreign countries. Representatives from Congress and the Senate travel all over the world to represent the US and their respective States.

Agnostick 6 years, 1 month ago

In an attempt to add a bit more logic and level-headed diatribe to this discussion (as opposed to the usual barking extremism from the usual trained attack dogs), I'd have to agree with KS and 75x55 on this.

First and foremost, we need to remember Condi: Like her or not, agree with her or not, she IS our Secretary of State. She, effectively, represents each and every American when she visits a foreign country, whether it's trade negotiations, peace talks, or a baby shower. (Well, maybe not--seems to me that baby showers, weddings, and funerals are duties of the vice president!) I think it should be the responsibility of all these "armchair delegates" from Congress to at least consult with Condi's office before they go.

As 75x55 suggests, motive and intent are everything here. A group of legislators visiting an area that's been ravaged by a natural disaster, in order to assess humanitarian needs is one thing; a maverick legislator trying to undermine the policies and strategies of the Executive Branch, on the other hand, is a dangerous and foolhardy undertaking.

Not having been in the actual rooms with Aderholt, Pelosi, Pitts, and Wolf... I'll reserve judgement until more facts come to light.

Really, though, when you think about it, there's probably plenty on the conventional "Speaker's plate" already, that she doesn't need to go globetrotting for more busy work.

Agnostick agnostick@excite.com http://www.uscentrist.org

mick 6 years, 1 month ago

Right on Beatrice!

Centrist 6 years, 1 month ago

loud ... agribusiness or commercial interests are a whole lot different to international diplomacy, which concerns our national security. We have a government for that.

Nancy Pelosi is not a member of the Executive branch.

bunnyhawk 6 years, 1 month ago

seems to me the Speaker is merely slipping into the vacuum created by the complete lack of diplomacy demonstrated by this administration. I'm proud that there is at least one American political leader who is willing to stand up and let the world know that most Americans want to be responsible citizens of the world, as opposed to tough talking bullies.

jimincountry 6 years, 1 month ago

Pelosi is on a trade mission. She's seeking minaret builders so all her followers can be called to prayer 5 times a day. The first one is to be raised in Lawrence outside the women's studies offices or near the aclu.

mick 6 years, 1 month ago

I find it really ironic that one would mention Syria and Israel in the same sentence and say that Syria is the "state-sponsor" of terrorism. Remember just a few months ago when Hezbollah captured a couple of Israeli soldiers and Israel proceeded to demolish Beirut, murder thousands of innocent civilians including children and then leave hundreds of thousands of unexploded cluster bombs? Israel is a state-sponsor of terrorism. Many Israelis themselves agree.

OldEnuf2BYurDad 6 years, 1 month ago

Right Thinker: You just called every Arab a liar and a murderer. Is that how you want others to view your ethnicity: with narrow, offensive generalizations?

Attitudes like that will ensure that this conflict never ends.

Centrist 6 years, 1 month ago

mick .... terrorism and war are two different things (not excusing Israel's methods).

Israel WAS provoked, whether you agree with their conduct or not.

That's a whole lot different to someone blowing up commuters without regard ..

mick 6 years, 1 month ago

Terrorism is terrorism. Murdering thousands of innocents, demolishing cities, leaving unexploded cluster bombs is the pluperfect example of terrorism.

acg 6 years, 1 month ago

Hehheeee

sunflower_sue 6 years, 1 month ago

das, thanks for reminding me. This weekend is open season on ROUS's.

mick 6 years, 1 month ago

Right thinker (actually neither). Here's evidence that Bush does tell the truth sometimes. "It'd be alot easier if we had a dictator- as long as I was the dictator."

jimincountry 6 years, 1 month ago

Liberals really do have a sense of humor superior to us conservatives.....Das wins.

jimincountry 6 years, 1 month ago

Afterall they did elect Pelosi, Durbin, Kennedy etc..........that's ludicris, funny in an insane sort of way.

jimincountry 6 years, 1 month ago

Lots of cut and paste in the lib talent bank too.

merrill 6 years, 1 month ago

Of course the speaker should visit where she sees fit...that's her job.

Bush and Cheney are not diplomatic enough to visit anywhere. In fact the country is far better off to have them stay home and keep their mouths shut. Bush blowing off allies is testimony enough. Neo cons are fools.

Centrist 6 years, 1 month ago

The job of the Speaker of the House is to be Speaker of the House, not Secretary of State.

Her job is in the Congress, and nowhere else.

'Nuff said

RETICENT_IRREVERENT 6 years, 1 month ago

I do not support Nancy Pelosi's decision to visit Syria. I support Madam Speaker Pelosi's idea of engaging others in dialog. Shuttle diplomacy has always been more effective and productive than either cruise missle diplomacy or isolation.

The issue is that the Madam Speaker should not be directly pushing policy, but rather legislating policy.

Her visit undermines the checks and balances the US Constitution put in place between the executive, legislative, and judicial branches.

This is faintly akin to a child trying to get what they want, by playing the mother and father of said child against each other.

mick 6 years, 1 month ago

Nancy Pelosi sees it as part of her job to represent the American people. Since the Republicans have become a party of ultra right wing, greedy, self-righteous, war loving, fascist neo-nazis it helps to have someone represent our country as it more truly is.

ms_canada 6 years, 1 month ago

As an outsider watching the world situation, I cheered inwardly when I saw that Nancy Pelosi was a woman with balls. Just what is needed in the world, not just the US. Here is someone who will stand up and be counted and one who is not afraid to stand up to the eejit in the White House.
My God, how can you Repubs still believe that this man has all his marbles and understands the situation in the world? He lives in a dream world. How the h can a situation ever be resolved without dialogue? Did sanctions work in Iraq? Have they worked in Iran? What makes anyone think they would work in Syria? sheeeeeeeesh! and good golly molly!!

ms_canada 6 years, 1 month ago

You said it MIck!!! Right on.

JohnBrown 6 years, 1 month ago

To loudmouthrealist. Rice is spending more money on Blackwater than she is on any negotiations.

mick 6 years, 1 month ago

Why don't you look in the dictionary and you'll see I'mm exactly right. Those aren't just labels, TOB

Kontum1972 6 years, 1 month ago

lets have a really BIG WAR...stop this little stuff......we need a real big 1...lets do some real global WAR-ming! Then mb the boys in the white house will be happy...

RETICENT_IRREVERENT 6 years, 1 month ago

ms_canada, I graciously beg to differ. First, Lets drop the "Repubs" and "Dems" labeling.

We are citizens of the United States Of America. We the People have a national constitution that defines the fundamental political principles, and establishes the structure, procedures, powers and duties, of our government.

The issue is not about Madam Speaker Pelosi having "testis", or even the policies she is espousing.
Madam Speaker Pelosi, pursuing State policy issues directly with a foreign government is usurping the U.S. Constitution.

The United States of America is a constitutional republic. Our Constitution limits the government's power, and separates the executive, legislative, and judicial branches. At issue should be the United States Constitution, Article One, Section 8, and Article Two, Section 1 & 2.

In stating this I also feel that the executive branch, represented by President Bush has also acted to use powers contrary to the U.S. Constitution.

True republicanism emphasizes widespread citizen participation, civic virtue, opposition to corruption, and that people have inalienable rights that cannot be voted away by a majority of voters. The U.S. Constitution provides the guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican form of Government.

Our goverment was originally formed and guided by the U.S. Constitution. Are we going to let this document become a 220 year old non-effective artifact?

Bone777 6 years, 1 month ago

I saw some pictures of Pelosi meeting with the Syrian President.

I think she represents the "bosom" or America quite nicely.

Hubba Hubba!!!

acg 6 years, 1 month ago

OZ that doesn't even count the ones that died off of Iraqi soil. They don't count those boys in the total. If you're wounded and die in a base hospital in Germany, or back home, you aren't in the count. If you die in the sea or in the air, not in Iraqi waters or land, you aren't counted in the total they release to the public, either.

My nephew is home from Iraq on leave right now. He's on his second tour, God bless him. He has a very upbeat attitude considering what he's seen and done in Iraq. He has horror stories to tell, though, that would curl one's toes. He went into this a republican, but he's going to come out a democrat. He went into this, volunarily and full well knowing he was going off to war, thinking he was fighting a battle for truth and democracy (even though we tried to tell him) but now he realizes that he's put his life on the line for a loud mouthed idiot who lies to his nation and uses his troops as pawns in his little game. He says that the whole thing is a complete exercise in futility. They kill groups of insurgents, more just come. The people spit on them everywhere they go and scream curses and spew hate and tell them to go away, they're not wanted. The bases employ "hajis", these are citizens of Iraq that work on base doing menial labors (cleaning, laundry, cooking, etc.) and whereas a lot of them are kind, decent and hardworking, still more of them are trying to sneak weapons and explosives onto base every single day!! My nephew said you can see the determination in the eyes of these people. They will not surrender, they will not stop, they will not quit fighting this war with us, or with each other. This is a jihad and they mean to fight it to the death. We, as Americans, don't want to die. They're looking forward to it. We need to get out now. This whole thing is a waste of human lives, time and money.

If there is someone in our government, whether it be Nancy Pelosi, Condoleeza (devil woman) Rice, or hell, I don't care, anybody, the guy who works the bagel and coffee cart in the lobby of the White House, can get some dialogue going, then I'm for it. I bet those kids over there, buried in sand and wondering whether or not they're going to die today could give a crap about checks and balances and who's stepping over boundaries and doing a job that's not hers.

Kodiac 6 years, 1 month ago

Das and TOB,

You guys are killing me. You are pretty much the only game in this forum or at least the only comments worth responding to....Where do I sign-up? Not sure if I qualify for super-high intelligence but I do real well with drinking beer and calling everyone around me morons.

beatrice 6 years, 1 month ago

Did you know that 43% of all statistics are made up right on the spot?

snap_pop_no_crackle 6 years, 1 month ago

Is there a place in Syria where you can get a good plate of moo goo gai pork?

Ceallach 6 years, 1 month ago

Although I can barely support my own decision to visit just about anywhere . . since Pelosi went on taxpayer dimes it appears I have supported her decision to visit Syria.

drewdun 6 years, 1 month ago

The more desperate the right gets, the more vitriolic (and removed from reality) their attacks get.

And rt, you're killing me, pal. "San Fran Nan is the most dangerous person in America right now?" For what, trying to create dialogue with a problematic country, rather than drive them further away, or start a war with them with amorphous (not to mention baseless) charges. Where do you get this s***?

Once again, the LJW.com provides a service, in that one can see exactly how filled with hatred, paranoia, and sheer insanity the base of the Republican Party truly is. Reading the comments of the wingnuts, I don't see how any rational person could not come to the conclusion that a prerequisite for being a rabid right-winger is an IQ below 85 and an utter disregard (if not contempt) for reality. Really, though, taking all of this into consideration, one might be tempted to say that wingnuts are more deserving of sympathy than scorn. However, then I remember that they support a 'man' who began a disastrous war that has killed 3000+ Americans and countless Iraqis, ruined our nation's reputation in the world, and CREATED more terrorism, which is what we were ostensibly trying to defeat. And then, all they can do is trot out their old classics: "liberals hate America, dangerous subversives, traitors, terrorists, blah, blah, blah." No defense of their political messiah (in fact, in rt's taunts about them indicting Clinton in under a year, you can hear an implicit admission that they know their political messiah is a crook), but then, that's not the point to them - the only point that matters to them is the health of the Republican Party and the 'saintly' reputation of Bush. EVERYTHING takes a back seat to those concerns, even reality and the lives of our soldiers. You wanna talk about 'most dangerous person in America?' Take a look in the f** mirror, pal.

Gootsie 6 years, 1 month ago

OH NO! TOB - Is it the *** Supremacy again???

snap_pop_no_crackle 6 years, 1 month ago

I've not read all the posts today. Has anybody been called a Nazi yet?

snap_pop_no_crackle 6 years, 1 month ago

TOB, I figured as much.

beatrice 6 years, 1 month ago

Did you know that if you only have one wing, be it a left wing or a right wing, you fly in a circle? I see plenty of circling going on here today.

Civility, folks, civility.

snap_pop_no_crackle 6 years, 1 month ago

Civility? That's something those frog-faced _ 's on the __ side of the aisle will never understand. (copy & paste to save time, fill in the blanks appropriately)

BorderRat 6 years, 1 month ago

She did look kinda hot in her scarf...

acg 6 years, 1 month ago

"I've not read all the posts today. Has anybody been called a Nazi yet?"-snap

That about made me fall over!

I think "nazi" was thrown out before lunch, wasn't it? ROFLMAO! You guys truly kill me and I enjoy each one of you, even you, right_thinker.

I have to say that we're all lucky to live in the country that we do, where we can call each other nazi, and bemoan our government and their incompetence. Many others aren't so lucky. God bless America and all that happy crappy.

I'm on my 3rd glass of wine, thank the heavens for days off, and I'm about to start telling ya'll "I love you man..." so that's my cue to go and have some food.

75x55 6 years, 1 month ago

AH the fun of middle eastern diplomacy - it's like being the gym punching bag...stick yourself in the situation and you get smacked around by all sides.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/04/AR2007040402306_pf.html

Ceallach 6 years, 1 month ago

TOB, would you say the "fascist neo-nazis" are the right or left wing of the general nazi population? :)

snap_pop_no_crackle 6 years, 1 month ago

Neo wasn't anything like a Nazi, at least in the first Matrix movie. He should have "whoa" a couple of times, anyhow.

Gootsie 6 years, 1 month ago

OH yes! SW Kansas update!

Stopped at the Big Well and have a coin tray at my desk with a picture of it. Went to funeral in Mullinville and saw cousins from the past. It was great seeing them. Came back home safely. It was cold and windy there, but a great trip.

Oh and guess what - NOTHING HAS CHANGED THERE!

faceit 6 years, 1 month ago

Oh come on, you know you'd watch the video of their hanging just like you watched Saddam's. We're not talking about murder, we're talking about punishing them for their crimes. Have a nice night and a wonderful Easter.

snap_pop_no_crackle 6 years, 1 month ago

Go, go Gootsie!

RETICENT_IRREVERENT 6 years, 1 month ago

snap,

"Go, go Gootsie!"

Gootsie is pole dancing again in her wellingtons?

Gootsie 6 years, 1 month ago

But of course. Wellingtons and a cane toad bikini.

Katie, what's up with the weather? Looks wet and snowy!

beatrice 6 years, 1 month ago

Hey prospector, I got my cyber dukes on the ready, but I tend to unleash them only when really necessary. I think you will agree with me when I ask, must every issue be a "I scream at you, you scream at me" issue? This one just doesn't hit the mark for me, even if it does involve someone from one party doing something that people in the other party don't like.

When an issue does warrant an attack, I will gladly wield my Walt approved cyber-sword (insert the sound of metal swishing through the air). Take heed. You have all been duly warned!

RETICENT_IRREVERENT 6 years, 1 month ago

bea, Put down the bong....

"even if it does involve someone from one party doing something that people in the other party don't like."

Kindly re-state that please...

"even if it does involve someone from one branch of government doing something that people in one of the other branches of government don't like, but that their branch shoud be doing anyway."

beatrice 6 years, 1 month ago

rt, if these two aren't already in bed, they should definitely get a room: http://martinirepublic.com/item/holding-hands

beatrice 6 years, 1 month ago

Das, what do you mean, "let's get out of here TOB"? You and TOB are suppose to be taking up arms WITH me! I can't take on the zombies by myself!

ms_canada 6 years, 1 month ago

R_I - differ away. One question, was she breaking some law by going over the head of GWB? I am not completely up on US constitutional law etc. Another question, would Speaker Pelosi be the head of the Democratic party? Here in Canada we have our Prime Minister and then we have the Leader of the Opposition. These opposition leaders can and frequently do visit other countries and their heads of State. This is perfectly acceptable. We also have a speaker in Parliament who is of neither party. He is just the speaker who controls the Members when they sit in parliament. The members in parliament may not speak to one another. Never!!! They must speak to the speaker only. They may say something like this -- "Mr. Speaker, the Honorable Member for Trois Riviere has said this or that......." I believe that speaker Pelosi seems to have more power and say so than that. True?? Sorry if I offended you, R_I. I get so angry when I see your government leading the rest of the world into such chaos and death, not just for your soldiers and ours and those of Britain, but for all the Iragi children, seniors and women.

RETICENT_IRREVERENT 6 years, 1 month ago

ms_canada, You did not offend me... I do not profess a expertise in constitutional law. But the U.S. Constitution in Article One section 8, states the powers that the Congress (House of Representatives, and Senate) may have. The Constitution also states the power the President may yield. The position can be very influential and powerful.

Though I think the President has exceed powers granted by the Constitution, The Judicial branch and Legislative branch apparently has not been able to rein the Executive branch in. Madam Speaker Pelosi from the news accounts I have read, was/is pushing foreign policy, not fact finding to use as a basis for legislating foreign policy.
Application of foreign policy is the duty of the Executive branch, and was enumerated in Article Two of the Constitution.

Two wrongs do not make a right.

snap_pop_no_crackle 6 years, 1 month ago

ms_canada, also, the Speaker of the House of Representatives is not officially the head of their party. IIRC, Howard Dean is the current leader of the Democratic party.

jimincountry 6 years, 1 month ago

Nancy Pelosi is an appeaser to any who oppose Bush or the current USA executive branch of government. Those of you who can't see her willful denigration of this government in order to achieve a political gain are fools.

beatrice 6 years, 1 month ago

The Super High Intelligence Team -- yet it is already past 5:00, so I guess I missed that bus once again.

See you in the trenches tomorrow. Bes

ms_canada 6 years, 1 month ago

R_I and snap - thank you for the info. Obviously I know very little about your system of governance. I will do my best to bone up on it. One thing I know now, it is very, very different from ours. But I have a curious mind and I will learn. Can't think why I never did before.

snap_pop_no_crackle 6 years, 1 month ago

First time I can recall the term "cod piece" being used in an OTS post. I'll press a flower in my diary tonight.

RETICENT_IRREVERENT 6 years, 1 month ago

Das, T_O_B,

Bus?

I thought the Super High Intelligence Team would ply the highway in a '91 brown Ford probe on even days, and a Ford Escape Hybrid on odd days.

Godot 6 years, 1 month ago

As to the original question posed:

Godot 6 years, 1 month ago

Pelosi is an enormous embarrassment to the US in any and every respect.

ms_canada 6 years, 1 month ago

TOB - I think this would really work. You dress snap in a pleather suit with a gleaming titanium cod piece and I swear you will think that OMB has come back from the dark beyond.

jonas 6 years, 1 month ago

Hmmm. . . . it looks like one of those rare cases of Dilutement Through Civilan Spamming Operations. The bleeding red and electric blue screaming was diluted to a light azure and rose affair.

How delightful!

Zhen de a! Wo zianzai lei ji le!

faceit 6 years, 1 month ago

Pelosi should be hanged along side the King of Treason, Jimmy Carter. She is such a dimwit.

Agnostick 6 years, 1 month ago

http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/images/larson_what_dogs_hear.jpg

snap_pop_no_crackle 6 years, 1 month ago

Back to the topic of Syria: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/04/AR2007040402306_pf.html

ms_canada 6 years, 1 month ago

I would just ask, what the heck, if anything did the Sec. of State accomplish on her visit. You can't get blood out of a stone.

roger_o_thornhill 6 years, 1 month ago

I sure wish you could post photos here so someone could put up the one of Rummy and Good ol' Sadaam shaking hands.

But seriously though, them Syrians talk funny and look different from me and want to be in control of their own destinies...that just makes me nervous. I don't even know this Nancy Pepsi person.

snap_pop_no_crackle 6 years, 1 month ago

An opinion from Lebanon: "We can thank the US speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, for having informed Syrian President Bashar Assad, from Beirut, that "the road to solving Lebanon's problems passes through Damascus." Now, of course, all we need to do is remind Pelosi that the spirit and letter of successive United Nations Security Council resolutions, as well as Saudi and Egyptian efforts in recent weeks, have been destined to ensure precisely the opposite: that Syria end its meddling in Lebanese affairs." http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=1&categ_id=5&article_id=81211

deec 6 years, 1 month ago

What about the gop reps travelling with her? Why are they off the hook?

Agnostick 6 years, 1 month ago

http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/images/larson_what_dogs_hear.jpg

Agnostick 6 years, 1 month ago

[chuckle]

Yeah, right_thinker.

Because, of course, you're completely powerless to change you own...

Oh, it's not even worth the effort anymore...

[chuckle]

deec 6 years, 1 month ago

As highest-ranking member of the visiting group, it is her right and obligation to speak for the group. Why are the righties , with a few exceptions today, only attacking Pelosi? "Congressman Darrell Issa of California met in the Syrian capital Thursday with President Bashar al-Assad and Foreign Minister Walid al-Moallem. Issa is of Lebanese descent, and is a member of President Bush's Republican Party.

Issa told reporters that members of Congress will continue to urge the Bush administration to hold a dialogue with Syria." http://voanews.com/english/2007-04-05-voa55.cfm " Three Republican congressmen who parted with President Bush by meeting with Syrian leaders said Wednesday it is important to maintain a dialogue with a country the White House says sponsors terrorism.

    "I don't care what the administration says on this. You've got to do what you think is in the best interest of your country," said Rep. Frank Wolf, R-Va. "I want us to be successful in Iraq. I want us to clamp down on Hezbollah."

    :"This is an area where we would disagree with the administration," (Rep. Robert) Aderholt (of Alabama) said. "None of us in the Congress work for the president. We have to cast our own votes and ultimately answer to our own constituents. : I think there's room that we can try to work with them as long as they know where we draw the line.

    Another Republican congressman, David Hobson (R-OH), who traveled with Speaker Pelosi to Syria also differed with the Bush Regime partisan game players. [..]

    Darrell Issa (R-CA) is generally even further to the right and at least as much of a rubber stamp as New Jersey's Christopher Smith. But he just drew a line. He's in Damascus today, meeting with Assad and also with Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Moallem. He said "Bush had failed to promote the dialogue that is necessary to resolve disagreements between the United States and Syria."

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/04/06/bald-faced-republican-hypocrisy-over-syria-visits/

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