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Do you think people with babies should be charged for an extra ticket at KU football games?

Asked at Massachusetts Street on September 7, 2006

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“I think it’s a little ridiculous to charge full price for an infant. I don’t think they need a ticket until they need their own seat.”

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“No, because they’re babies. They don’t take up that much space.”

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“I’d probably say no. There has to be a certain age restriction, though.”

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“No. I don’t think so. Babies can sit on their parent’s lap. If they take up a seat, then there should be a charge.”

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garrenfamily 11 years, 9 months ago

There is no charge if you are 2 and under when you go to a Chiefs/K-state/Royals game. KU is greedy. It is really a shame. My child spends his whole time in my lap - why should I pay for a "seat"?

bankboy119 11 years, 9 months ago

Since KU can't get a full stadium anyways they have to come up with a way to get as much extra money as possible. Therefore, they charge babies.

jonas 11 years, 9 months ago

Meh, freeloaders. Bout time infants lost their free ride. They need to learn to take care of themselves, pull their own weight. Take that, People's Republic of Lawrence.

KS 11 years, 9 months ago

Greed! Typical of this current AD and department.

sgtwolverine 11 years, 9 months ago

I'll admit it does sound a bit greedy, though it's worth noting that Michigan also charges for a ticket for every person.

However, from my experiences in Michigan Stadium, it is my strong opinion that it would be best if people did not bring infants to games. Some kids might actually enjoy the game, but infants don't really care one way or another.

Linda Aikins 11 years, 9 months ago

I guess I sort of see their point, but to me it discourages the family outing event. What does that leave for a family to do together? Play in fountains?

bmwjhawk 11 years, 9 months ago

Agree with Wolverine. Leave the babies at home. Games can be loud and, in a pinch of excitement, parents have been known to fling their babies high into the air. This is dangerous for babies.

I think 90 year-olds should get in free, though. Nobody is flinging them.

paladin 11 years, 9 months ago

Sometimes, there's little that can be said in defense of irrational, abusive, arbitrary, authoritarian, and just plain dumb policies and procedures those in authority enforce upon us except that its a matter of National Security. As may be the case here. Everyone probably knows that most terrorists were, themselves, babies at an early age. It wasn't long before those harmless looking little guys stopped wearing a diaper on their butts and started wearing one of their heads and picked up an AK-47. In order to ensure maximum safety and security for the Public, we must begin monitoring all babies activities right now, because each one of them is a potential terrorist threat to our security. Besides, if these subject babies are planning to attend KU, they should, as soon as possible, get used to having to pay allot for something without getting anything much in return.

trinity 11 years, 9 months ago

it just absolutely puzzles me why anybody would want to bring an infant to a rowdy, loud, and potentially crazy outdoor sporting event in the first place. "family" outing"? aw, c'mon, now; do you really think that little babe in arms wants to be there?? more of a parent thing, methinks. heck even toddlers; color me a curmudgeon, but people just seem to think that their wee ones need to be everywhere; nothing could be further from the truth.

Kat Christian 11 years, 9 months ago

Space vs money, money vs space. GREED, Double GREED. There ought to be a law against gougers like this. A Gouger Law - that's what we need in this country. We should start a campaign and begin the protest NOW. Babies should not be charged at anytime. Not any child under 5.

Moderateguy 11 years, 9 months ago

Good luck with all that money grubbing Lew. Better get it while you can. When the sports programs tank, (and everybody knows it's just a matter of when) all that corporate cash is going to dry up in a New York second. By then, all the truly loyal fans will have long since gone.

paladin 11 years, 9 months ago

Its called being a family. Ask your grandparent about it; maybe they remember some stuff to tell you about what it was all about. I guess they could leave the poor little baby at home alone or in the car. Sometimes, children are so inconvenient.

jonas 11 years, 9 months ago

paladin: Or, they could not come to the game. Or, they could get a sitter. It's not about being family, it's about not wanting to pay for a babysitter. Greed, in other words. Go figure.

BMWJayhawk: Maybe the reason no one throws 90 year olds around at spectator sports is because throwing 90 year olds around BECOMES a spectator sport. Let's try it some time.

trinity 11 years, 9 months ago

oh, paladin, pishtosh! "being a family" my fanny. i come from a time when family meant family at HOME, or yes on outings; BUT-there were certain things that just did NOT warrant bringing babies or young children to, and a football game was one of them. babies/young kids just are not appropriate, everywhere, period! sigh

Topside 11 years, 9 months ago

I called KU about it 3 years ago when my daughter was born and I'm not burnin' my damn tickets just because grandma is out of town. They told me it was an NCAA rule...blah, Here is what I did and what they should have done (until this year when they are shakin' and serching people. Way to wait until 5 yrs after 9-11 to start....why do it at all?)

I would just hold my daughter on the far side of me and give my wife the tickets. and she hands the ticket taker 2 tickets and I would just take my child and keep walking up the ramp. and then the person would give my wife the stubbs and BOOM, we're in. We did get looks a couple of times but we got away with it.

PS- The secret is to pick a college student or young person who really doesn't care enough to make a stink to stop you, unlike some grumpy old fart who makes it is job to hassle you if you try to get one by him.

Go KU.

OldEnuf2BYurDad 11 years, 9 months ago

I think babies should pay for a seat. The seats in Memorial Staduim are so close to each other. Jostling a baby around takes space. I cannot imagine what it would be like if my wife and I tried to maintain a baby at a game with the two little spaces we have. We'd need more elbow room than that.

Also: I see a lot of babies at games. I think they are into football, or something.

sgtwolverine 11 years, 9 months ago

Paladin, the bast majority of d-1a college football games aren't really family events anymore. D-2 and d-3 games are probably great environments for families, but many d-1 games aren't really family events. Just last Saturday I sat near a drunk Michigan fan who kept verbally sparring with a nearby mother who didn't care to have her child learning the drunk fan's vocabulary.

Here's one incident that contributed to my opinion. Last year, I went to the Michigan/Ohio State game. That is the hardest, most expensive ticket to acquire on the Michigan schedule. It is often the biggest game of the year for both teams, and for the fans. During the game, the entire crowd stood (normally just the student section stands the whole game) ... except for two people in front of me. Two couples came to the game, and each had an infant. The men stood and got into the game, while the women, holding the infants, sat the whole game holding sleeping infants. That made me genuinely angry. Here's the biggest game of the year, a ticket for which many fans would pay several times the face value, and these people came to sit and chat with each other while holding sleeping babies, paying little attention to the game -- something they could do at home for a lot cheaper while opening space for fans who truly want to be at the game.

That is why I have no problem with charging for infants.

sgtwolverine 11 years, 9 months ago

I thought the secret was to put on a fatsuit filled with whatever items/substances you want to get into the stadium. Then, throughout the game, you experience miraculous weight loss.

theDudeAbides 11 years, 9 months ago

To all the people bagging on bringing a child to a sporting event- My wife and I took our (16 month old) son to the Chiefs game last Thursday, and he had a great time. We did not stay for the entire game as it was getting late at the beginning of the 4th quarter, but I can tell you that he was having fun through out.

Yes the crowd is loud, so is the music, PA, etc. This does not mean that he can not have fun. It may be true that a 3 month old would not enjoy this, but there is no reason that a family shouldn't be able to take an infant out to enjoy the nice weather on a fall afternoon. If those plans include a football game, all the more power to them. I would like to have one person try argue the point that a 15 pound infant and a 300 pound grown man are charged the same price...

sgtwolverine 11 years, 9 months ago

You're right, Dude -- if anything, the 300-pound grown man should be charged less.

Bone777 11 years, 9 months ago

I think babies should be charged full price.....
If their name is "Huey" and they weigh over 150 lbs! Otherwise, common on. KU can still use all the fans they can get at football games. Especially, after a couple of losses, when the fan support thins out. Heck, when you get a bunch of crying babies and old whiners together, who can tell the difference?

RonBurgandy 11 years, 9 months ago

No, infants should not be charged. The Chiefs don't charge for children under 3, does this mean NFL games are more family outings than KU football games? Don't think so.

Kelly Powell 11 years, 9 months ago

you can smuggle a lot of hooch in a diaper bag....don't forget to hollow out poohbear....youcan get a fith in it.

sgtwolverine 11 years, 9 months ago

TOB, I believe ticket prices range from $49-$59. At least, that was the last price range I knew; they might have changed a bit since then. I have never actually purchased tickets through the university; I always buy on the street for less than face value (because when it's more, it's at least double face value, and I can't afford that). So my knowledge of ticket prices is incomplete.

Shhh -- don't tell UM that KU is more expensive. They'll raise prices again, even though the athletic department had a multi-million dollar budget surplus last year.

sgtwolverine 11 years, 9 months ago

Oh, and Michigan Stadium will see the addition of luxury suites over the next few years. No idea what those will cost, but you can bet it'll be steep. Plenty of rich alumni and businesses who will stand in line to snap up those suites.

Ron, in my mind the notion of taking a small child to a Chiefs game in general seating is wrongheaded. That the Chiefs allow it without charge does not make it more sensible; it just means the Chiefs like the PR advantage and the tv and newspaper shots of kids in the crowd.

I don't know if the Chiefs do this, but the Lions have instituted a family seating section in Ford Field. In that section, there is no alcohol, and crude language or other unacceptable behavior is forbidden. They do enforce those rules; those who do not follow the rules for that section are escorted out. That, I think, is the only way these events might be family friendly, and for those sections I could see a baby-friendly policy.

big_blue 11 years, 9 months ago

as ku alumni, my wife and i are (again) embarassed by our athletic department. yet another black eye for them. (i guess they have A LOT of eyes!)

countless other college and professional sport venues allow young children/infants to be with their families, but ku can't? the excuses for the policy are laughable. everyone knows it's about the $. maybe if we didn't have to pay mr. perkins so much this policy wouldn't be necessary at all.

as a PROTEST (and to offset any $ the ku ad makes off of any other 3 month olds), i am NO LONGER contributing to the athletic department and WILL NOT be attending any ku football games this season.


bjamnjm 11 years, 9 months ago

Why compare fan experiences at Michigan or Ohio State to KU? Those stadiums hold 100,000+ and are packed all the time, Nebraska's capacity is ~81,000 yet they put 85,000 in the stadium last week. Memorial stadium in Lawrence holds ~ 50,000 yet rarely tops 25 or 30,000 except when the other team has a good following. There are plenty of places to sit so whether it's baby and accessories you don't like sitting next to you or the obnxious lush, just move. Half the time at the games you can throw a rock in any direction and not hit a fan. KU should not discourage anyone from coming to the games. Once they put a decent product on the field then they can talk about policies like Nebraska or Oklahoma.

sunflower_sue 11 years, 9 months ago

I went to a KU football game where some friends of mine also attended with their infant son. We didn't sit next to them so I asked where their child sat and if he could possibly make it through the game. They said "no problem...little Johhny wasn't too fussy and he spent most of the time on Dad's shoulders." I would have hated to sit by them and I even like them! I can imagine sitting next to a fussy baby and sitting behind some tall dude with "little Johnny" on his shoulders, and it would really make the game unenjoyable for me.

Leave the babies with a sitter. Can't find one? Draw straws and the loser stays at home with the baby and the winner calls up a bud. It's kind of like taking an infant to an amusement park...what's the point?

sunflower_sue 11 years, 9 months ago

TOB, I know that the game I went to (albiet it was KU vs KSU) was actually over-sold. No extra seat for "little Johnny."

Ceallach 11 years, 9 months ago

Babies, no. I was reluctant to leave my own when they were that young. After 1 year, yes. If people do not want to leave their toddler with a sitter, then one of them should stay home with it. For every toddler that enjoys the game there are many more who do not and consequently keep those around them from enjoying it as well. A bored toddler is a terrible thing to behold or to try to hold for that matter :)

bjamnjm 11 years, 9 months ago

My bad Bob, Sue. You only had 6,000 extra seats to pick from to get away from "little Johnny" last week.

SayWhat 11 years, 9 months ago

I don't think the money-grabbing prostitutes in the Athletic Department took into account some of the money they're losing. My wife and I used to buy season tickets. Instead of two tickets with our two-year-old on our laps, we now have one ticket and take turns going to games while one of us stays home. Perhaps not paying the extra cash for my kid's seat makes me greedy. But that chunk of change is a much bigger percentage of my income than the AD's. At least I give them credit for not making any excuses about being the cash sucking jackals that they are.

dacs23 11 years, 9 months ago

How about getting rid of the jumbo screen so families can watch the game for free from the hill like the good old days. Babies could play in the grass and sleep on blankets. Then again if we went back to those days, there's the problem of babies getting ran over by kegs rolling down the hill after the game. Perhaps college football isn't the best "family outing venue". Kind of like the family outing of going to the casino and placing the kids in the on-site daycare while mom and dad gamble away the college fund. Try the zoo people.

sgtwolverine 11 years, 9 months ago

Hey, R_I, I have to save money for my other vices. Buying tickets on the street helps me do that!

Seriously, I've been buying on the street for several years, and I have not yet encountered a bad ticket. Bad OSU tickets would make sense, but beyond that, legitimate tickets on the street for other games (except for Notre Dame) -- even Michigan State -- aren't hard to find. Not at all. For instance, for last week's game I bought a ticket from a couple guys who had one more ticket than they had people going to the game. That is common.

If I get burned by a bad ticket, I will go home wiser, and with a lighter wallet. In the meantime, my experience says the U makes the problem sound bigger than it is.

OldEnuf2BYurDad 11 years, 9 months ago

"as a PROTEST (and to offset any $ the ku ad makes off of any other 3 month olds), i am NO LONGER contributing to the athletic department and WILL NOT be attending any ku football games this season."

I don't think Lew will notice your protest, and I cannot imagine that anyone who has already planned to go the games this year will join you over the price of admission for toddlers. This is a fringe issue. The "lost toddler revenue issue" will not get a bullet point on the AD's next staff meeting agenda.

dacs23 11 years, 9 months ago

As for sneaking stuff in, I knew this guy that would keep his "drugs for sale" in his kid's diaper because the cops never looked. And how about those 90 year olds, sneaking beer into places in those rubber flasks connected to their wheelchairs. Crazy old farts.

rollcar 11 years, 9 months ago

People amaze me. Don't you realize that public sporting events have for generations been largely geared toward families? Who do you think Little Jay is supposed to appeal to? Or Sluggerrrr, or KC Wolf, etc. etc. Who do you think collects trading cards and autographs of their favorite players? As a parent, I bring my kids to the games fully expecting for them to witness a little bit of playful foul language and loud noises. That intense atmosphere is what makes attending a game in person a better experience than watching it on TV. Of course everyone has a right to enjoy the game, but if you want to try to remove kids from the equation and create an adults-only environment, large-scale public sporting events will be dead within a generation. For all you know, "Little Johnny" could grow up and become your favorite quarterback.

sunflower_sue 11 years, 9 months ago

bjamnjm, I still don't get why it should be up to the people who didn't drag their cranky toddler to a football game to move. With all the testosterone that usually accompanies such events, I'm sure not going to confront "little Johnny's daddy" and tell him that his over-stimulated toddler is ruining the game for others. People should use common sense.

sunflower_sue 11 years, 9 months ago

rollcar, big dif between children and babies.

bjamnjm 11 years, 9 months ago

You got me there Sue. Common sense tells me to move if somebody's bothering me that much. With at least 6,000 empty seats I'm pretty sure I'll find somewhere else to sit. Does common sense tell you to try and force your will on "little Johnny's" parents? That makes sense.

Kodiac 11 years, 9 months ago

I personally would find an empty seat that I had a lot of KU women or maybe close to the KU cheerleaders...that kind of "common sense" always works for me....


sunflower_sue 11 years, 9 months ago

You got me there, bjamn. Common sense tells me that "little Johnny's" parents are probably idiots and I should not confront them. (I think that's what I said in so many words.) So, if my "little Johnny" is making a huge fuss, I should just expect everyone else to go find another seat if they don't like it. Obviously, my needs are more important than everyone else's. OK, now that makes sense.

RonBurgandy 11 years, 9 months ago

I've say by people with babies and the game was no less enjoyable for me or them. Everyone's got something to complain about.

RonBurgandy 11 years, 9 months ago

And by the way, hasn't anyone seen "Baby Geniuses?" Who says babies don't understand or get anything out of the game.

bjamnjm 11 years, 9 months ago

No Sue, I just expect you to find a different seat.

bjamnjm 11 years, 9 months ago

Watch yourself Kodiac, that sounds sacrilicious. Boh. er, a, I mean, "Doh"!

sunflower_sue 11 years, 9 months ago

Ron, you are correct. I'd rather sit next to a squalling baby than a person with terrible b.o. or horribly foul language.

Grundoon Luna 11 years, 9 months ago

I wondered why do I get all Deuce Bigalow when I hear talk about the KU Athlics Dept. But now I know why since SayWhat hit the nail on the head. They got Mangina and he be pimpin' those man ho's

rollcar 11 years, 9 months ago

But if we can agree that sporting events are intended to be at least in part "family-friendly" events, what could be more "family-friendly" than a baby? Remember, there are two types of people in this world - those who are tolerant of people different from themselves, and those who are not. If I don't mind people drinking, cussing and making an a$$ of themselves at the game, why should they mind me and my kids?

bjamnjm 11 years, 9 months ago

Sue, I'm just teasing.

I love college football and go to lots of games. I've sat next to babies, drunks, crazy's and everything else. On occasion, I've been the guy everyone else wished would move. I've never had a problem with any of this stuff.

My significant other and I planned to attend a game in Lincoln in a couple of weeks with our 14 month old. When we found out he needed his own ticket we decided not to go, end of story. I would have mentioned it to the Urinal World if I'd known it would create so much drama.

big_blue 11 years, 9 months ago


i'm sorry to learn you had kids.

H_Lecter 11 years, 9 months ago

Feel free to drop the babies off at my house. I'll leave the back door unlocked and just bring them down the basement to to the I mean, "warm" room. Please drop a 10-dollar bill in the glass jar on the mean, bar.

theDudeAbides 11 years, 9 months ago

Pywacket sounds like a self-hating mother. Please don't have any more children.

Kodiac 11 years, 9 months ago


Moi? sacrilegious?

Hey I'm a single guy and I like the opposite sex. Is that sacrilegious? I thought those are exactly the qualities the religious right looks for.

As for the topic, I think I would rather go beat a dead horse myself.

On a different note, I would like to know when Azure is going to the Renfest so that I may partake in the goody basket she claims to be totin'....

beatrice 11 years, 9 months ago

Babies shouldn't be charged for a ticket, because they shouldn't be allowed in at all! I don't know if anyone mentioned this yet, but the noise level at games is simply too loud for developing ears. Is not paying for a babysitter really worth risking your newborn to permanent ear damage? It is even more distressing when I would see tots in the Field House for basketball games, which is even louder. To drag a toddler to such an event is nothing more than a selfish act of the parents. I'm with Pywacket -- ban babies.

sgtwolverine 11 years, 9 months ago

bea, you'll really be distressed at this, then: at the local fair's demolition derby, I saw quite a few very young children. And my ears were complaining for a day or so after the derby. (Next year I go prepared.) I can't imagine what it did to those young ears.

jonas 11 years, 9 months ago

Actually, Pywacket sounds like she's just dropping some sage bits of wisdom, coming from someone very clearly angry about some irresponsible parties' behavior. Clearly, DudeAbides and Big Blue, your responses are an indication of some culpability in said acts of infant "excused" selfishness.

Lulu 11 years, 9 months ago

Promoting a male dominated sport filled with violence and agressions with scantily clad women cheering them on is not the place of a small child. Don't ban sports, just ban the outcome. Then we are all winners. I hope the extra expense is going to a worthy cause like paying the faculity more.

jonas 11 years, 9 months ago

O-Bob: Play a game of Madden for them on your TV, and if they pay attention to the action, as opposed to staring hungrily at your moving hand, trying to eat your controller or just sitting there happily drooling on themselves, then they are clearly a "Toddler," and can probably appreciate the games. You should also buy them a ticket.

sunflower_sue 11 years, 9 months ago

Py sounds like a good, courteous momma to me. I have no doubt that you are also teaching (taught?) your youngins to be good curteous people.

Is finding a sitter really that hard? Seriously, I'm not being flippant. I love babies/children and offer my services free of charge to my friends. They reciprocate. It's all for the good of mankind and marriage. I know I'm definitely in the minority, but I've never once had to actually pay for a sitter. Isn't that what relatives and friends are for???

YDP say WATBs like it's a bad thing!

Grundoon Luna 11 years, 9 months ago

Not sure but it will be soon, Kodiac. So, you're coveting the goodie basket, eh? You down for some eye of newt, wing of bat, powdered horn of rhinocerous, oysters, rohybnol, vodka . . .

sgtwolverine 11 years, 9 months ago

TOB, I can see it now:

"Is that a child in your oversized jacket, or are you just happy to see football?"

bjamnjm 11 years, 9 months ago

Look here Kodiac, I'm not going to help you take care of that problem in Vermont if you don't see things my way.

Sacrilicious! You call yourself a Simpson's fan? Don't you remember Homer's forbidden donut? We'll watch it tonight at my place, fella.

Scantly clad cheerleaders are the best kind of cheerleaders and everyone knows men are smarter than women. It's b/c we have bigger brains. That's scientific.

Kodiac 11 years, 9 months ago

-"What do we covet most, Azure_Attitude? We covet that with which we are familiar. We covet that which we see." - Hannibal Kodiac

Indeed Reticent, I will have to watch out, won't I....for now we cannot be faint of heart here can we Azure....

Teapot9 11 years, 9 months ago

THIS IS AWFUL (I REALIZE IM IN ALL CAPS)!! My dad would take my brother and I to the old Chicago Stadium and one of us would always sit on his lap and they wouldnt even charge us and Chicago owners are the cheapest SOB's there are. That is atrocious and Lew has gone too far.

jonas 11 years, 9 months ago

Teapot: If you were the age in question you would not remember the happy incident. Unless you came out of the womb fully cognizent, which I'm sure is a possibility.

Kodiac 11 years, 9 months ago

Hey Bj,

"Scantly clad cheerleaders are the best kind of cheerleaders and everyone knows men are smarter than women. It's b/c we have bigger brains. That's scientific."

Hey no argument here buddy. I'm with you all the way there. Can't say I remember that doughnut episode. Looking forward to an education myself. I am always willing to learn new concepts with the Mojo.....

beatrice 11 years, 9 months ago

lulu, with no outcome, how does this make everyone a winner? Couldn't they all just as easily be called losers? With no outcome, you couldn't prove otherwise.

Or, as the English philosopher Bertrand Russell once said, "If two hitherto rival football teams, under the influence of brotherly love, decided to co-operate in placing the football first beyond one goal and then beyond the other, no one's happiness would be increased."

Teapot9 11 years, 9 months ago

Jonas, you are right but I am referring to when I was like 6 or 7 and he would tell the usher I or my brother would be sitting on his lap.

Grundoon Luna 11 years, 9 months ago

Teapot, as a Chicagoan I wonder what kind of Chicagoan are you? It's Comiskey Park and just becuase it has a new name it is still at the same locale. A true Sox fan you are not. Better be glad you aren't saying that on the L. But, yes, Comiskey especially was notoriouly cheap.

What's with all these stadiums and amphitheatres being named for wireless companies? [I feel like Jerry Seinfeld]. There are now at least two Verizon Wireless Amphitheatres - one here and one in New Hampshire - but there are likely more.

beatrice 11 years, 9 months ago

bj, for a second time today you use the word "sacrilicious." What does it mean? I know my brain is smaller than your's and all, but could you please explain. I'm guessing it deals with some food dish that is so delicious, it is sacred.

Kodiac 11 years, 9 months ago


Did you say I was cute....sorry buddy can't help you there.

Grundoon Luna 11 years, 9 months ago

People will say we are in love, Kodiac . . . .

Teapot9 11 years, 9 months ago

Azure, you have to be the most ignoarant self-proclaimed hippie I have ever met. First of all I was referring to the old "Chicago Stadium" for that is where the Bulls and the Blackhawks used to play before the United Center was built. I am a Chicagoan thru and thru and am proud of it. I realize Comiskey is now called US Cellular Field but I still refer to it as either Sox Park or Comiskey and yes I prounounce Soldier Field "Soldiers Field" (which is a Chicago thing). Azure the only thing you are correct about is that old man Comiskey was a cheap bastard and forced the Sox to throw the World Series. HOWEVER I DO TAKE OFFENSE TO YOU CALLING ME A SOX FAN. I bleed Cub blue and always will.

In the future please quit challenging me.

RoscoeP 11 years, 9 months ago

Although I agree that some of the officials should burn in eternal hell-fire for how most of their policies suck, I can't fully disagree with this one. Anyone that has ever been around someone with an infant knows they take up a lot more than their fair share of space. If your gonna be awsome enough to grace us with your whining, pissing, smelly kid, than be prepared to reap the bennefits.

Teapot9 11 years, 9 months ago

This is what I was talking about Azure. By the way where are you from in Chicago?? I am asking this in an honest manner. I am from a nearby western burb.

Grundoon Luna 11 years, 9 months ago

First of all we have never met.

Second, not all Chicagoans call it "Soldiers" field, in fact nobody I know does, but we may not have travelled in the same circles.

Third, I did not call you Sox fan I said a Sox fan you are not, and by your own admission, I am correct.

Fourth, so I was never a basketball fan until I moved to Kansas. I am still not an NBA fan, so sue me.

Fifth, you calling me ignorant is the pot callnig the kettle black.

Sixth, I'll do what I like.

Seventh, you are welcome to continue to masicate my gluteous maximus.

Thank you.

Teapot9 11 years, 9 months ago

Well Azure maybe you should pick up the Trib sometime when they do a fun little article on the way Chicagoans prounounce their words. I am glad you could point out everywhere I went wrong and not concede to the facts of which I were correct. You said a "true sox fan you are not" I believe that implies I am a sox fan. I am also not a big NBA fan. What does "callnig" me. I am assuming you are from a lovely north shore town where daddy has supplied you with a brand new Audi to come to school here with and yet you still hate corporate America and all the other hippie rhetoric yet continue to retreat to it when times are tough. Please don't call the Teapot ignorant.



Grundoon Luna 11 years, 9 months ago

Potty, you assume a great deal. I am from a western burb as well and then moved to the inner city on the South side, but have much time up North. My mommy came to grad school here and I came with her as a teen. I have worked hard for everything I have with few handouts from my parents. I am a functioning participant in corporate America and I recognize its benefits and well its flaws.

I am, and was not suprised when the Libertarian's political test backed this up, a Centrist. I abhor extremism on both side.

Dude, check my moniker. I alwasy have attitude, and it is not alwasy to be taken so seriously. Take a chill pill

Very small of you to point our a typo. You own typing could use some help. "What does callnig me" is fragmented.

sunflower_sue 11 years, 9 months ago

Hey everyone! Tomorrow is FRIDAY!!! (That means RI will have my devil spawn from 6:30 to 11:00 since this is not an "everyother month.") :oP

Goots, the question is: "How do you feel about mechanical pencils?"

abbygene 11 years, 9 months ago

I am a mother of two and my husband and I both work two jobs. One of my jobs is staying home with my children during the day and then watching my husband's infant cousin. Having said this, I generally stay away from public outings with the baby and the kids but on the rare occasion I get a wild hair and decide I deserve to see a movie, or that my five year old might really enjoy it and, yes, the baby is okay to sleep through it, I do take my crew to the movies. And although this in no way represents the challenges of taking one infant to a football game, I do take my three to baseball and basketball games. Public events are for everyone to enjoy. Having children doesn't make you alienated from the rest of the world nor should it keep you from treating yourself to a good time. And if the baby gets fussy, we just get up and walk out and try not to disturb everyone else. But being in public is being in public, I mean, you deal with all kinds. I don't particularly appreciate the people with massive body odor sitting next to me and making me gag, but I do appreciate the fact that I am in a public place and I am dragging along my own little social disruptors so I figure there's some give and take there. The bottom line is, no infant should be charged extra for a seat any more than someone who is overweight and takes up two seats or someone with offensive body odor. If it were my baby and I was in that situation, I would just say "No thank you, my child doesn't need a seat as it will probably be hanging from my breast the entire time, enjoying it's dinner"

Centrist 11 years, 9 months ago

Personaly, I don't understand why everyone is so obsessed with collegiate sports anyway ... it aint all that!!

BFD .. and only in America.

Linda Aikins 11 years, 9 months ago

Sue, I love them. Click Click. And there's no better feeling than that of being able to refill it and protect the environment.

Thank you for asking!

Kodiac 11 years, 9 months ago

Hey Azure,

What is there not to love about you. You are wiccan, you are a great cook, you are smart, articulate, and funny. You enjoy the outdoors and the metaphysical and obviously love to learn about the world. You work hard and have a great occupation. And for the icing on the cake, you are totin' a goody basket. I think I am in love....

sunflower_sue 11 years, 9 months ago

Abbygene, Having nursed 2 babes myself, I never really had a mental image of one literally "hanging from my breast" until just now. LOL!

Grundoon Luna 11 years, 9 months ago

It's just the full moon, Kodiac, and it being so means it's time for me to go to church and show my respect and love for the Goddess and God.

Bella Luna!!! Caio.

abbygene 11 years, 9 months ago

Warning: Graphic description of consequences of breastfeeding are mentioned in this post. If you like perfect breasts and believe every woman has them, stop now. You will learn too much.

Sue, I did love nursing my kids and I am planning on doing it again with the third, but when I was chasing a toddler with my shirt over my head and had another slurping away at me, I did kind of feel like an old milk cow. Especially afterward when my nipples hung to my belly button. Sorry for the mental image there, folks. That's kind of the way it is sometimes. Anyway, thus the remark about the kid hanging from my breast; although it was never literally true, it did present repercussions that made it look as if it some horrible trauma had befallen me. Well that's why we have push up bras, we can just roll those babies up and stick 'em in there!

Kodiac 11 years, 9 months ago


La bella luna! The moon brings the woman to the man. Capice? - Old Man from Moonstruck

All are born, live, die and are reborn beneath the Moon and Sun; All things come to pass thereunder, and all occurs with the blessings of The One, the Goddess and God, as has been the way of existence since before time was. - Scott Cunningham

Oh in the moonlight......

Good night oh fair blue one....

riverdrifter 11 years, 9 months ago

I have a ticket available to the Chiefs/Bengals game Sunday. 50-yard line, $79 + $200 baby-sitting fee. ...Oh, forget it, I'll sell it to the usual scalper by the dumpster in Lot B. Never mind...

Gina_KU1998 11 years, 9 months ago

My husband and I were the parents of a young child during our KU days. The policy of charging for everyone, regardless of age, has been in effect since at least the Fall of 1996. What was even more ridiculous was how my husband and I were supposed to go in the student entrance with our $3 tickets but they expected my infant daughter to go through the main entrance alone with her $35 ticket. They would let her in the student entrance if we happened to find a discarded student ticket laying on the sidewalk.

bjamnjm 11 years, 9 months ago

Sorry Beatrice, I did not read your question until today. I didn't look at my computer again until this morning when I came in and this was still up.

Sacrilicious is a term I believe was coined by Homer Simpson.

Rarely does anything original or serious come out of my mouth or finger tips but rather most of it is, at a minimum, motivated by The Simpson's. Sad, I know, but true.

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