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Are you concerned about North Korea’s claims of nuclear testing?

Asked at Massachusetts Street on October 10, 2006

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“Yes, I’m concerned. It looks like it’s real, and I think our president ought to be concerned about it.”

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“I am. Kim Jong Il seems crazy, kind of mentally unstable. He doesn’t seem like what you would expect out of a leader of a country.”

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“Yeah. It’s scary, even if they are bluffing.”

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“I’m very concerned because Kim Jong Il is a fascist.”

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christie 8 years, 4 months ago

I'm more concerned about our Republican Leadership driving this country on wild goose chases while dictators wave their arms and scream and shout about their Weapons of Mass Destruction.

They were obviously too busy chasing under age boys to see the writing on the wall.

November 2008, THE END OF AN ERROR.

Kat Christian 8 years, 4 months ago

We ALL are living on borrowed time at this point on. It's been predicted for a long time that all h#!! is going to break loose on us. I predicted Bush would be the one to get the ball rolling the first time I heard the rich spoiled hillbilly JR Texan was running for President. When he won - that was when I begin to worry - so this Kim Jong thing is almost just the cherry on top of the cake of destruction that will inevidently come to pass.

sgtwolverine 8 years, 4 months ago

As concerned as I am about the Steelers' claims of superiority.

ohjayhawk 8 years, 4 months ago

R_I, I looked it up yesterday. As of that time, it had not been updated. The way it sounded on the site is they update it on the front of the "Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists" magazine. It appears to be a bimonthly publication. I'm sure it will move up from the current "seven minutes to midnight" the next issue.

craigers 8 years, 4 months ago

As long as they test and only make it to the ocean, no.

Aiko 8 years, 4 months ago

Where are all of the "Cindy Sheehans" out there? I figured since they jumped on Hugo Chavez's ship they will now support crazy Kim Jong II.

Linda Endicott 8 years, 4 months ago

Hitler was once a little guy sitting in his corner of the world banging on his pots and screaming for attention.

I grew up in the era of the Cold War. You were always hearing about possible doomsday scenarios, and maybe we even came closer than our government ever let us know.

But it didn't stop people from living their lives.

acg 8 years, 4 months ago

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sunflower_sue 8 years, 4 months ago

I'm more concerned about all the school shootings and that (according to Marion) I have lost all sense of humor. snort, giggle, guffaw

sgtwolverine 8 years, 4 months ago

sue, if you lost all sense of humor, I would be worried about you acquiring nuclear weapons. Or, depending on who's talking, nucular weapons.

estespark 8 years, 4 months ago

Maybe Jericho will become a reality show.

sunflower_sue 8 years, 4 months ago

sgt, don't worry. Right now, your flying under my radar!

sunflower_sue 8 years, 4 months ago

RI, So not flying under the radar! >:P* BTW, how does one past the "thirty somethings" stoop to call me old? (Unless you have a permanent stoop because of your age?)

sgtwolverine 8 years, 4 months ago

Wow. My life would be so much more interesting if R_I interpreted everything I said!

Aiko 8 years, 4 months ago

couranna1, you need to enlighten yourself on the practices and leadership tactics of Kim Jong II before you compare the two (George W. Bush vs. Kim Jong II). I know you may not like the leader of our country but come on, that is crazy!

Linda Aikins 8 years, 4 months ago

TOB - that was a great movie! What was the song? I can't remember!! Must be the atmosphere full of radiation and tofu!

Yes, I'm worried. I want to live long enough to have grandchildren!

sunflower_sue 8 years, 4 months ago

RI, my sincerest apologies! How on earth could I have misconstrewed your meaning? Once again, I am humbled before your greatness cough. I can only hope that you can find it in your heart to forgive me. Clearly, my ire should be directed at the true culprit...sgt!;)

(I was serious about the stoop though, you really should have that looked at. :oP)

beatrice 8 years, 4 months ago

sgtwolverine, your Steelers comment was hitting below the belt. That is it, I put you on notice as part of my personal "axis of weasel."

By the way, how are your Lions doing this year?

Redzilla 8 years, 4 months ago

I for one am glad we decided to ignore the North Korea threat and expend our military energy invading Iraq to keep Saddam from testing HIS nuclear weapons...oh, really? He didn't have any? Err, well, that is awkward.

Kontum1972 8 years, 4 months ago

YEAH THE SADDAM INCIDENT....WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION....LETS GO FOR IT..WE HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO...LETS VAPORIZE NOW....

WHY DO U THINK THEY KEEP SHOWING THE DAY LAWRENCE GOT NUKED ON THE TELLY...LOL...GO STEVE GUTTENBERG...!

sgtwolverine 8 years, 4 months ago

sue, you're lucky I like the word "culprit."

bea, I'm just so happy to have more company down in the NFL basement. I thought I'd be hospitable to the Steelers as they visit the bottom of the NFL.

Oh, and my Lions have only one fewer win than the defending NFL champions! :-P

beatrice 8 years, 4 months ago

tony88: from the article - "Donald Rumsfeld, the US defence secretary, sat on the board of a company which three years ago sold two light water nuclear reactors to North Korea"

What the ...? There is a clear conflict of interest here. As a result, I think it only fair that the North Koreans return their bombs immediately. Or, Rumy must forgoe his share of the profit from when he sells them nuclear de-actors.

Kontum: Yep, I too hate it when my caps-lock button gets stuck. (That can be the only reason I can think of for why anyone would ever faux-yell the words "Steve Guttenberg.")

beatrice 8 years, 4 months ago

sgt: indeed, one fewer game, but how many fewer championships?

acg 8 years, 4 months ago

Wow, they removed my comment? I wonder who it was that hit that suggest removal button? Things that make you go hmmmmm.......

sgtwolverine 8 years, 4 months ago

bea, just enough that I can leave them in the past...

Besides, those Pirates and Penguins are really holding up their end of the bargain, aren't they? I do believe the Tigers are still playing...

beatrice 8 years, 4 months ago

sgt, are you sure you didn't mean "distant" past? Besides, I don't give a gnat's fart about the Pirates and Penguins -- I'm not rooting for the city, just the football team. Unlike the AZ Cardinals (and dare I add the recent Lions), until the Steelers are mathematically out of it, they will always keep trying.

Good luck with them Tigers. I do hope they win for you (since you probably hardly even remember what it feels like to celebrate with a championship team).

sunflower_sue 8 years, 4 months ago

Hey! It's cold and raining.
A_A, a good night to go throw some chemicals in your hot tub...just don't use any of those soy-based shock treatments. Marion says they're bad.

(did that work, are we off of politics now?) sigh didn't think so.

sgtwolverine 8 years, 4 months ago

Careful, bea -- except for last year, the Steelers' championships weren't exactly yesterday. How old was Big Ben during the Steel Curtain era?

"Unlike the AZ Cardinals (and dare I add the recent Lions), until the Steelers are mathematically out of it, they will always keep trying."

I'm not sure what trying has to do with it. You win or you don't. Otherwise I'd have a lot of years where I could talk about how the Lions tried and lost a lot of games by a narrow margin. Does it really matter that the Steelers are "trying" at 1-3? Nope, just like it wouldn't matter if the Lions tried and ended up 6-10. Wait, I think they have done that.

"(since you probably hardly even remember what it feels like to celebrate with a championship team)."

Oh, let's see ... a recent NBA championship (and two more in the early 90s), three recent Stanley Cups, and you could even throw in the 1997 AP national championship in college football, if you want to travel to Ann Arbor.

ohjayhawk 8 years, 4 months ago

Re: the link to the article in tony88's post

Yes, Rumsfeld has ties to North Korea's nuclear project. However, the bid was given to that company by the government (which was under the control of Clinton at the time).

Yes, Rumsfeld did not speak up against the plan at the time. However, 1) even if he did speak out against it, the company could have still taken the bid as we cannot be sure that his voice would've been enough to stop it and 2) had that company not taken the bid, some other company would have. Either way, North Korea still would've received the reactors.

MyName 8 years, 4 months ago

logarithmic:

Right, maybe some people could see our policy on nuclear weapons as a little hypocritical, but that doesn't change the fact that Kim Jong Il is not a good leader, and the world would be better off if he didn't have the bomb.

Not only that, but a big part of the reason why all of the other countries in this region don't have the bomb is because we do have those thousands of nuclear weapons. Japan could get a nuclear weapon that is much more sophisticated than North Korea in 6 months. South Korea could probably get one too if they really wanted to, but they don't because we have agreed to protect them if they were attacked by Nuclear weapons. But now that North Korea has one, there's a better chance that S. Korea and/or Japan could want one, which is a bad thing.

The bottom line is that the fewer countries that have the bomb, the better off the world is.

sgtwolverine 8 years, 4 months ago

Incidentally, bea, one of my favorite NFL memories is the infamous Lions/Steelers coin toss debacle. Not because it went for the Lions, but because it was so beautifully inept on the ref's part. It was so appropriate that it happened in a Lions game; the ref and his ineptness seemed a good representation of Lions management.

That is one thing I will say with certainty: the Rooneys know how to run a franchise. The Fords? Nope.

Richard Heckler 8 years, 4 months ago

There is much confusion as to whether or not it was a nuclear test or a huge explosion. Seismograph readings are not anywhere near consistent according to the radio. North Korea has not yet done anything.

When the subject of nuclear power comes up think nuclear reactors =nuclear weapons. We could say nuclear power is not peaceful,clean or cheap. Rumsfeld sat on the board that sold the reactors to North Korea during the Reagan/Bush administration.

On a another note Reagan/Bush in partnership with Pakistan and India brought the Taliban together. Reagan/Bush armed Saddam.

Is their a pattern yet?

beatrice 8 years, 4 months ago

sgt: I was just thinking football, but you got me on the rest, I must admit. I was soooooo cheering on the Pistons when they stomped Laker booty. Loved it. NHL - have they ended their strike? If so, I didn't notice.

Though it may appear that you have beaten me in this game of one upmanship, you haven't. You see, I now declare victory and gracefully withdraw from this line of conversation. (Since I declare victory first, that counts, doesn't it?) Oh, and since I am victorious, I can no longer keep you on my "axis of weasel." That would be bad sportsmanship.

Go Tigers!

lunacydetector 8 years, 4 months ago

the United States has satellites that can detect nuclear detonations. how come nobody has asked if one of our satellites detected anything? here is a link:

http://www.nnsa.doe.gov/na-20/monitor.shtml

could we be playing dumb so we can attack north korea based on north korea's claim? or, could we have indeed detected a nuclear detonation and we are weighing our options? or, did we just not have a satellite in place to detect the claimed detonation of a nuclear bomb by north korea, and are relying on seismic readings from the USGS?

what a sticky situation.

perhaps we should level north korea, afghanistan, and iraq, and just start over. -sarcastically speaking.

lunacydetector 8 years, 4 months ago

here is a WONDERFUL advertisement that explains the Clinton Administration's attempt to appease Kim Jong Ill by sending over Madeline Albright (a recent speaker at the Dole Institute). Directed by David Zucker, who also brought us "Airplane" and countless other funny movies. Too bad this one is more scary than funny. Enjoy.

sgtwolverine 8 years, 4 months ago

Yes, bea, it is all about who declares victory first. Dang. I knew I forgot something! Oh well.

Seeing the Lakers lose to the Pistons was a lot of fun, but I think it may have been more fun to see the Yankees lose to the Tigers. I am enjoying Steinbrenner's reactions (like declaring the season "a total failure").

Yeah, the NHL came back, but not many people noticed. I'm really just one of those playoff fans. The non-football pro seasons are way too long (82 games each for basketball and hockey, and 162 [?!] for baseball); it's too hard to keep intensity through that many games. Football really is my favorite sport, and I love the relatively small number of games.

But my football world (in which the Lions are actually third-string) has had a hard time today. Last week my local high school's varsity team lost its starting qb for the rest of the season (serious knee damage). This week, after one game, apparently the backup qb has gone down with an injury. They're talking about bringing up the JV qb. The thing is, the JV is short one qb, too (though he's down only with a minor injury). The whole high school program is losing qbs at an alarming rate. And we had such promising talent on the team, too...

jonas 8 years, 4 months ago

You know, I bet the government has known about this and kept it quiet up until now. Sure, Kim Jong Il has set off a nuke so close to elections, how convenient.

beatrice 8 years, 4 months ago

sgt, with that many qbs out, your high school team appears to have only one choice - join the rugby league. Good luck.

As far as the topic of the day - on most other days I might be all over the current administration for this or that failing, but I just don't care to muster that kind of energy today. Changing the outcome of nuclear proliferation seems further out of my control than does my influencing the outcome of a Steelers' game by cheering them on from the sofa at home. Today, I'll just stick with my belief that somehow I make a difference by supporting my team. Sigh.

beatrice 8 years, 4 months ago

"You are such self-indulgent half-wits!"

Perhaps, but together, they are a whole wit. Plus, I have their back, so that must be good for another quarter of a wit. And I am sure many others around here feel the same.

Marion, you, on the other hand, are always out there attacking the windmills all alone.

And those "girls" are likely women, and I'll bet they spit in your tea for being such a condiscending buffoon.

You're welcome, Beatrice

davisnin 8 years, 4 months ago

We should just let China deal with lil' Kim. His 'respect me world' attention craving antics and underground dynamite tests are really more of a pain to them than us.

And a question for logrithmic: What is a 'good' country that we should be just like? I mean you seem to disagree with every government action by the US since the inception.

drunkagain 8 years, 4 months ago

Just reading these comments and it seems what logrithmic said is dead wrong, even though he seems to know a bit of history with the conflict. "Why are readers so out of sorts because the dictator of North Korea has "reportedly" exploded a small nuclear device? We are not at war with this country. Why the belligerence? Why the bellicose attitude? Why the lack of diplomacy to contain North Korea and motivate them to pursue a non-nuclear agenda?" Actually we are at war with N. Korea, we are just signed to a cease fire right now with them. The reason China is in the 6 party talks is they know Japan and S. Korea can nuke up fast and have more nukes then they have within a couple of years since they only have a small arsenal. China will straighten out N. Korea or will give a wink and a handshake to an invasion of it. If an invasion occurs S. Korea will be the one who suffers with thousands of rounds pointed at Seoul right now, since all parties are still at war and it is only a cease fire. Why should the US appease a country that is holding millions of lives hostage with their military aiming at Seoul, and treats its own people to a life that is one of the worst humanity crisis in the world?

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