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What type of soy products do you enjoy?

Asked at Community Mercantile, 901 Iowa on October 9, 2006

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“I like baked tofu and frozen soy products like Soy Dream. I’m not a fan of soy cheese, but I eat it occasionally.”

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“Soy milk, Central Soy Foods tofu, soy dogs, soy chicken patties and meatballs. We use soy protein powder, textured vegetable protein and edamame.”

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“Tofutti ice cream, baked tofu and firm tofu. Soy nuts are really good too. I use soy candles, soy lotion and soy margarine. That’s all I can think of right now.”

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“You’ve caught me in a soy transition, but I used to eat a lot. I’m trying to stay away from a lot of secondhand soy products. Now I only eat some organic tofu and soy milk about once a month.”

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sourpuss 7 years, 6 months ago

Soy is okay, but all things in moderation. Never could develop a liking for soy milk or "tofutti", but I like firm tofu in stir fry or miso soup, and tofu parmesan is really really good.

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Marion Lynn 7 years, 6 months ago

sunflower_sue:

Have you completely lost your sense of humour?

Evidently so!

I don't grow my own food and haven't since my college days!

I am very careful about lables, do not buy pork, fowl or red meat with any additives listedon the labels; am circumspect with the very few canned goods I buy, eat only completely natural ice cream and yogurt(Sp? I never remember!), limit my raw sugar intake to nearly zero and do not buy foods with any of the "oses"; which are merely sugar disguised, so not eat any kind of smoked food and go for the low carb/high-protein stuff.

You are correct, one cannot get exactly what one wants but one can get very close.

All it takes is careful shopping and I am a very careful shopper!

As the result of my researach I do not believe soy foods to be healthy foods so I don't eat them and encourage others to follow my advice in that regard or to at least examine the evidence.

Just a matter of personal preference, I suppose.

Thanks.

Marion.

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sunflower_sue 7 years, 6 months ago

So, Marion, you also don't eat any kind of corn products because you can make plastic out of corn, too. My, your diet is getting quite limited, indeed. You poor unfortunate soul! It must be awful to grow all of your own food...that is the only way your going to get exactly what you want, you know.

BTW, just to bring you into this century, they can and do make car/tractor/whatever panels out of soy. (Maybe you shouldn't drive either.)

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one_more_bob 7 years, 6 months ago

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Marion Lynn 7 years, 6 months ago

Well, someone asked how to avoid soy because it seems to be everywhere.

I avoid soy the same way in which I avoid added sugar and salt.

I read labels carefully.

Ya'll eat that soy but I don't want to eat anything that Henry Ford made distributor caps and spark plug insulators out of.

Not to mention the soy derived plastic body that he nearly put into production.

It is said that you are what you eat and if soy is poo-poo........

...well.......

Thanks.

Marion.

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Ceallach 7 years, 6 months ago

Much ado o'er a little bean!!! And o'er a little poster!!! I've always thought whining like a b*tch was a compliment :) now whining like a baby, or a sissy, is another matter all together, that should not be tolerated.

I do not eat a lot of soy. The evil chemical MSG occurs natually in many of the procedures used in processing soy products, and for me MSG is a big no-no. However, several members of my family use soy milk (they also prefer the vanilla) and various types of tofu, they like it and so far have not grown any untoward appendages -- at least none that compares with the noodly appendage of the Flying Spaghetti Monster).

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The_Original_Bob 7 years, 6 months ago

I think acg and Sue have got it/he/she figured out.

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sunflower_sue 7 years, 6 months ago

Maybe some soy estrogens could complete the job. (Or maybe that is the real fear???)

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acg 7 years, 6 months ago

Char, anatomically, Marion is a male. But there is a lot of speculation as to what type of chromosomes actually inhabit his body in that, he whines like a b*tch!

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The_Original_Bob 7 years, 6 months ago

he-marion and she-marion. Works for me.

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char 7 years, 6 months ago

I use soy milk, but only in my cereal or carnation instant breakfasts. I am slightly lactose intolerant, but mostly I just don't like the taste of milk. So we buy milk for the hubby and silk for me. Vanilla flavor is my favorite.

I've had some tofu and some veggie burgers (which most likely have soy in them).

On a side note, I thought Marion was a guy. That is, at first I thought marion was a she, then I went to a round-table and there was a he-marion that posted here. And he talked a lot, like the marion here, so I figured it was the same person.

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feeble 7 years, 6 months ago

In the future, you might be better off using google scholar or some similar search to support your claims. An overwhelming barrage of links doesn't count for much when their content is unsourced, speculative or otherwise unsubstantiated.

That said, I present a counter-claim to the safety of Soy and Soy Isoflavones:

http://www.jacn.org/cgi/content/full/20/suppl_5/354S

Here's the relvant finding from this paper:

Isoflavones have characteristics that are consistent with selective estrogen receptor modulators and not estrogens. As such, when consumed at usual dietary intakes consistent with intakes by Asians, isoflavones are unlikely to have the negative effects associated with estrogens.

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linus 7 years, 6 months ago

blessedx3: You're killing me! I am literally CRYING, I am laughing so hard at your 11:32am post!!! You caught me completely off guard...and I thank you!!!!!

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RETICENT_IRREVERENT 7 years, 6 months ago

blue,

It's not just soy products...

Hot dogs is people!

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roger_o_thornhill 7 years, 6 months ago

mmmm....time for a Mcfatburger and fries. That outta be safe, right?

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from_beautiful_downtown_topeka 7 years, 6 months ago

David Arehart uses the phrase: "secondhand soy products".

Is that like "secondhand smoke"??

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blue73harley 7 years, 6 months ago

I have not eaten soy since I discovered where it REALLY came from...

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ms_canada 7 years, 6 months ago

Well, now, Marion, dear, as a Canadian, I can attest to the fact that there are a wide varitety of soy products available in my neck of the woods and I very much enjoy them. Raw soy beans for chili and soups, textured protein for burgers etc., both hubby and I eat a lot of soy cheese. I only drink soy milk Not to mention the ubiquitous soy sauce. I am well over the age of 21 and am mighty healthy. Soy has no cholesterol, which is good for our hearts and arteries. Thank you,

from ms_canada

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oldvet 7 years, 6 months ago

Hey Bob... most of the things that end up on my grill used to be vegetarian!!!

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sister 7 years, 6 months ago

I am proud to be a GMO. I just might take this prejudice seriously.

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Gootsie 7 years, 6 months ago

thanks Sue!

I think matresses made out of tofu would be interesting. Or maybe a tofu sofa (tofa?)

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blessed3x 7 years, 6 months ago

I think I just vomitted in my mouth a little bit.

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Pywacket 7 years, 6 months ago

I put soy sauce in stir fry & stuff.

Some day I plan to test my theory that tofu would fill in for wallpaper paste in a pinch. But I haven't felt inspired to do any wallpapering in awhile.

Now & then, I succumb to that urge to stop the car along a country road and feel a few of those firm, rounded, furry soy pods.

Other than that.... I can think of tastier things than soy bread for sopping up the delicious blood from rare filet mignon.

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oldvet 7 years, 6 months ago

Unlike Dave, I enjoy "secondhand soy products"... many of the things that get cooked on my grill or smoker were previously eating soybeans!!!

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Bone777 7 years, 6 months ago

Marion, you have converted me.

If avoidance of soy makes you an uptight, know-it-all, with the irritating habit of posting in a vertical fashion, I say bring on the GMO's. I will eat no meat!

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sunflower_sue 7 years, 6 months ago

OMB, you can't chastise the willing! ("else I woulda tried!) ;)

I just have to mention that Gootsie gets bad pun of the day award for her &:29 post!

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BunE 7 years, 6 months ago

Wait! I think that we need to read between the lines. Did the Egg council get to you Marion? Is that it? Listen, we all know how rough those protein pushers play so if they have type "Franken Soy is out for your babies" and we will send help.

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Shelby 7 years, 6 months ago

Merrill...your resource also has links to "UFO-coverup" and "War-coverup" and "Mind control" cover up and....well, I rest my case.

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frankzappa 7 years, 6 months ago

Soy un perdedor, I'm a loser baby so why don't you kill me,

get crazy with the cheez-wiz

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RETICENT_IRREVERENT 7 years, 6 months ago

one_more_bob,

Btw, did sunflowersue end up chastising you in a most a most severe manner?

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jonas 7 years, 6 months ago

I think Eloise Kelly's response from above would have been a lot better if she had started singing a soy song a la Monte Python.

"Tofutti ice cream, baked tofu and firm tofu. Soy nuts are really good too. I use soy candles, soy lotion and soy margarine. Soy soy soy soy. . . soy SOY SOY soy SOY soy SOY soy soy soy soy.

. . . . soy.

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geekin_topekan 7 years, 6 months ago

OOps,the question was about tofu huh?I got caught up in the passion of the moment.Forget the chicken bowl at Zen Zero. Try yellow curry chicken and chile soup in a cream base with opt-in tofu.Yummy!!Perfect fall time comfort food.

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RETICENT_IRREVERENT 7 years, 6 months ago

I'm behind sunflower sue....

"BTW, can someone explain to me why GMO's are BAD? Haven't we been altering plants genetically ever since we learned to cross pollinate them? Aren't all of our "pure-bred" pets just furry little GMO's? We love them. Why not love the furry little soybean, too?"

I used to "castrate" corn during the summer as a early teen, helping to create GMO corn.

A bunch of children are GMOs' also, unless it was the random, one night of drunk passion effect. (Plan "B" was not available)

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bobberboy 7 years, 6 months ago

Thanks Marion for tuning me into the possible bad effects of soy. I was not aware of this. I'll include it in my future desicions about consuming soy products.

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frankzappa 7 years, 6 months ago

So, Marion .. how do you feel about Columbus Day ??

do you celebrate the murderous, raping, genocide - inducing creep?

just curious

Soyman

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sunflower_sue 7 years, 6 months ago

TOB, the pods are furry. You crack me up.

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The_Original_Bob 7 years, 6 months ago

Sue - If your soybean is furry, then someone went overboard on the modification angle.

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Fatty_McButterpants 7 years, 6 months ago

Marion's new title: "The only living expert on everything"...

Thanks.

Fatty

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sunflower_sue 7 years, 6 months ago

There is so much soy in just about everything that, clearly, Marion does not eat.

Speaking of nuts, I eat soy nuts. I also eat soyrizo (quite good), tofutti, lots of TVP added to chili and burgers. I occassionally eat tofu but have never been crazy about the texture. I will drink soy milk if that's all that's offered because I prefer cow's milk.

I once made turkey and TVP BBQ meatballs and took them to my "fry everything in lard" family reunion. I had lots of people asking me for the recipe. They had no idea they were eating anything other than beef.

BTW, can someone explain to me why GMO's are BAD? Haven't we been altering plants genetically ever since we learned to cross pollinate them? Aren't all of our "pure-bred" pets just furry little GMO's? We love them. Why not love the furry little soybean, too?

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tony88 7 years, 6 months ago

Being anti-soy because of Monsanto's practices is like being anti-human because of the Bush Administration's practices.

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tony88 7 years, 6 months ago

Who says they are let off the hook? I eat organic dairy without Monsanto's bGH; so, why does eating non-GMO soy let Monsanto off the hook? Very faulty logic, Marion. Do you eat any food?

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blue73harley 7 years, 6 months ago

I'm strictly a carnivore. I do enjoy a loaded baked potato with my steak, however.

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Marion Lynn 7 years, 6 months ago

The soybean lobby at work:

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0CYH/is_19_5/ai_78737796

International soybean issues:

http://www.american.edu/ted/SOYBEAN.HTM

Monsanto Chemical And GMO soybeans:

http://www.commondreams.org/views01/0628-01.htm

Funny how all of the big Boys invovled in FrankenSoy are let off the hook by the promoters of sybeans but pilloried for other GMO foods!

Blinders anyone?

Thanks.

Marion.

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one_more_bob 7 years, 6 months ago

Remember after Katrina, when one source published a story about how mercs from Blackwater were ruling New Orleans with fire & sword? A lot of fringe sites repeated that story & it fizzled out. Did the mainstream media all gang up to ignore it? Or did one reporter simply go bananas? It doesn't take much for the tinfoil brigade to get up & running.

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roger_o_thornhill 7 years, 6 months ago

I'm not necessarily disputing the claims of a certain vocal poster on the subject, but I looked at about forty sites, all links provided here, and looked through about 150 search results and it seems that all of the links touting the "evils" of soy end up with the same six or seven sources. Why hasn't the mainstream media picked up on this? I cannot believe that there is a powerful soy industry that prevents it. How do mainstream media companies benefit from this coverup? There can't be that much money in it (especially compared to the money in other processed food products(e.g. Altria, Cadburry/Schwepps)). Surely the beef, pork, and chicken industries would have interest in promoting the negatives of soy. Is there a soy lobby on K street? These are legitimate questions, not rhetorical ones that are supposed to imply the answer.

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Marion Lynn 7 years, 6 months ago

acq:

Not a chance but thanks for asking!

Marion.

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RonBurgandy 7 years, 6 months ago

You know, for some reason, 68% is coming to mind right now but I can't quite remember why...

hrmm...

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libraffe 7 years, 6 months ago

One of my favorite ways to eat soybeans is in the form of.... edamame - I boil it at home, sprinkle it with a bit of salt and cayenne pepper, and then bring it to work as a snack. Yum!

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The_Original_Bob 7 years, 6 months ago

ACG - She's here to save you from yourself. Sit back and bask in the wonderousness that is Marion Sydney Lynn.

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tony88 7 years, 6 months ago

Well, Marion. I bet a great portion of many foods are GMO. It is assumed that the government regulates and confirms whether a product is GMO or non-GMO. How can you eat any food, Marion, if you can't trust government regulation?

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acg 7 years, 6 months ago

I know it's mixed into stuff but I don't really want to know about it. I would never drink soy milk, eat tofu (that stuff makes me gag) or any of that other hippy fruit and nut stuff (sorry guys, no offense) but I'm southern. We eat meat and real cheese and drink milk from a cow and that's just the way it goes. Sure we die early, but we die happy. I know it's in a lot of chinese food dishes, too, but since I can't find a chinese restaurant that I trust, I never eat chinese. Oh, btw, Marion, can you please, for the love of everything pure and holy, give it a rest today? Why do you try to take every innocuous topic and turn it into some big giant conspiracy? Just shut up and go away today, please?!

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The_Original_Bob 7 years, 6 months ago

Doesn't bother me a bit. As usual, you group everyone that doesn't agree with you as some lefty hippie vegetarian nut job. Sorry, ma'am. Doesn't work that way.

Hey, I saw a pit bull bit a little girl again. Shouldn't you be off to save the doggie?

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Marion Lynn 7 years, 6 months ago

Well, could you soy eaters try responding the the matter of over 68% of soybeans grwon in the USA being GMOs?(Genetically Modified Organisms).

You know; the ones that you are constantly referring to as FrankenFoods?

come on, now!

Just give it a little try!

Thanks.

Marion.

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one_more_bob 7 years, 6 months ago

I can kill a python with a Guinea chicken and a handful of soy beans.

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The_Original_Bob 7 years, 6 months ago

Oh goodie goodie. Now that Marion's Doggie Crusades failed she is on to warn the good citizens of Lawrence the dangers of soy products.

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Marion Lynn 7 years, 6 months ago

BunE:

You are simply acting on a cherished belief fostered by the hype of the soybean promoters.

If you reasonably and rationally check the facts about soy food products your belief will be shaken.

Tell me, Dear BunE, why do you suppose it is that Canada, New Zealand and several countries in the EU have banned soy food products in baby food?

Thanks.

Marion.

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BunE 7 years, 6 months ago

Marion, sweet, frail Marion, Why do you hate the simple soy bean so much? It loves you. Were you attacked by a soy fed hippy mob in the early 70s? Did an restaraunt slip you some bad tempeh in the 80's? I worry because I love...

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ljreader 7 years, 6 months ago

"Secondhand soy products."Hey, Dave is that something you get at a yard sale or on Ebay? How much can I save if I buy my soy products secondhand, anyway?

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one_more_bob 7 years, 6 months ago

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Marion Lynn 7 years, 6 months ago

"Non GMO"

How do you know?

Further, how can you folks decry GMOs and yet continue to promote the soybean as food when over 68% of all soybeans grown in the USA ARE GMOs?

Thanks.

Marion.

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frogtoad 7 years, 6 months ago

Ate non GMO soy product last night with other non GMO foods. It was of the cheese kind.

I also drank a bit of non GMO almond milk this morning. I hope that was okay.

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geekin_topekan 7 years, 6 months ago

Thai Hot curried chicken bowl at Zen Zero.Fabulous!!

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sgtwolverine 7 years, 6 months ago

There's a field of soybeans behind my house. That's about as close as I typically get to intentionally eating soy products. Why eat imitation soy products when I can eat the real things?

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geppetto 7 years, 6 months ago

tofu is good. I eat it at least once a week. I eat pad-thai tofu, curry with tofu, spicy beef and tofu, and more

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Marion Lynn 7 years, 6 months ago

I think that you'd better take a look at the info avaiable, there BEa!

Interesting how folks have no problem looking at and even seeing the dangers of other food products, additives and ingredients but when faced with the reality of the dangers of a food which are quite thouroughly documented, not hyped, historically accurate and well recognised and proven to the point at which such foods are prohibited for certain uses in countries which are at the forefront, that those same folks prefer the hype!

Well, Dear Bea, if I am a nut then I am in good company with the governments of Canada and New Zealand, both of which have restricted the food uses of soy products.

Just because you have been told by people who have a vested financial interest in a food that the food is good for does not make it so!

Did you know, Dear Bea, that over 68% of all soybeans grown in the USA are genetically engineered?

http://pewagbiotech.org/resources/factsheets/display.php3?FactsheetID=2

Soybeans are the dreaded GMO (Genetically Modified Organism) to which Merrill is referring in his above post!

Even he is so blinded by the hype srurounding soy that he is unwilling to see the truth!

Thanks.

Marion.

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beatrice 7 years, 6 months ago

Marion: No homework is needed. You are some kind of nut.

You're Welcome, Bea

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Marion Lynn 7 years, 6 months ago

NONE!

I will not touch the stuff and for some very good reasons!

If you can get past the "Healthy Hype" surrounding soy products, take a look at the links posted below!

The soybean was brought to the United States by Henry Ford primarily for the industrial uses of its oil and only peripherally for food uses:

http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/new/soybean.htm

Contrary to the well-promoted myth, Asians NEVER ate soybeans anda soy products in the manner ior quantity n which suchh products are now popularised!

Refined soy products such as Tofu, Miso, soy Milk and others pose very real and present health hazards!

The myth of "heathy soy foods" is JUST THAT: ' A MYTH!

Historic use of the soybean in Asia:

http://www.mercola.com/2000/jan/9/truth_about_soy.htm

Deadly Isoflavines in Soy products:

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:-Zuko5d-d_UJ:www.roex.com/Articles/dangersofsoy.pdf+the+dangers+of+soy&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=8

The history of Soy HYPE:

http://www.karinya.com/soydangers.htm

Canada and New Zealand BAN soy in baby foods:

http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/infant.html

The Dangerous Effects Of Soy On The Human Thyroid:

http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/soydangers.htm

From New Zealand; The DANGERS Of Soy:

http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz/

I will not touch the stuff and before you flip out writing that I am some kind of nut on this matter, DO YOUR HOMEWORK!

In the search engine of YOUR choice, simply enter:

THE DANGERS OF SOY

and see what you get!

Thanks.

Marion.

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Jeff Goodrick 7 years, 6 months ago

Bio diesel and syn. engine oil.

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Richard Heckler 7 years, 6 months ago

We eat soybeans,tofu,tempeh,soy ice cream and soy milk. That stir fry with tempeh and/or tofu is yumo.

Who sells Central Soy organic products:

The Merc Checkers HyVee Dillons Local Burger Wheatfields Zen Zero Tellers The Orient Royal Peking La Parrilla Naismith Cafeteria Student Union Deli(Sometimes)

In Kansas City: Blue Bird Bistro(17th&Summit) Eden Alley(on Jefferson in the Plaza) Kansas City Art Institute Whole Foods Wild Oats Brookside Market Mission Hy Vee Prairie Village Hy Vee

Beware of GMO products. This administration does NOT require that GMO foods be noted on food ingredient labels for fear that consumers will not purchase them. http://www.wanttoknow.info/deception10pg...

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Raymond Munoz 7 years, 6 months ago

Those Boca Burgers are pretty good! I think they're made with soy?

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