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Are you going to vote?

Asked at Jayhawk Boulevard on November 7, 2006

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Photo of Keyonna Reed

“No, I’m not. I didn’t register in time and I’m really not that into politics.”

Photo of Loren Cressler

“Yeah, definitely. Mostly just because I can and I don’t like Phill Kline.”

Photo of Josie Lea

“No, because I would have to do an absentee ballot. That, and I’m just lazy. I haven’t paid a lot of attention to the TV and newspapers.”

Photo of James Ice

“No. I didn’t get registered early enough. I just didn’t pay attention to the deadline.”

Comments

Silence_Dogood 7 years, 5 months ago

Your party crashed and burned, Morion. Stuff it.

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krazychiklet 7 years, 5 months ago

Yes, This was the first time I could vote, since I turned 18 a year ago. I think it is sad that more students my age don't vote, or are to lazy to go out and register or vote. Its our country, we are going to have to take responsibility for what is going to happen.

Also, the way I see it, if you don't vote, don't complain about the gov't, or the country, or the people in office. If you didn't care enough to vote, then I'm don't want to have to listen to you.

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RETICENT_IRREVERENT 7 years, 5 months ago

I ain't sue's dog. I ain't sue's pet. I ain't wagging no tail for sue. I ain't sue's leg humper. I ain't fetching nothing for sue. I ain't biting sue.

sue can bite me....

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sunflower_sue 7 years, 5 months ago

gccs14r, you remember correctly. I loved SNL in those days!

RI, those were the days before ritalin, et al... Just meant that if you had that much energy (writing these long equations and such) that maybe you needed a doggie downer.

Ms_C, what kind of a crazed anti-voter bit your ankle? How on earth did they even get near your ankle? Never mind...don't answer that! You said that you had to get everybody registered and I guess you did what you had to do. ;o)

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gccs14r 7 years, 5 months ago

R_I,

Ever watch Saturday Night Live in the days of Jane Curtain and Gilda Radner? They did a skit once about Puppy Uppers and Doggy Downers as a means of pet control.

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lubyloo 7 years, 5 months ago

Phill Kline voted out of office and Britney Spears files for divorce in the same day? Is the end of the world near?

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Ceallach 7 years, 5 months ago

i_p, my condolences, Fox News just "called" your race and declared KF as out :-{

I have to avoid talking to my Mother for a few days, looks like her choice for Governor didn't make it either. She is a true blue blood (in the political sense) and she will be fighting mad for a while. It's usually best to let her mourn in solitude :)

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innocuous_posts 7 years, 5 months ago

Carp as in fish. There's a sign at the light rail station that carp over one foot long have to have tickets to ride the train.

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ms_canada 7 years, 5 months ago

Bea - the thing is, we have just as many lazy, don't care, people up here as you have down there. I am one of the lazy ones, so it suits me just dandy to have someone come to the door to register me. They are brave folk that do that nasty job. I was once bitten on the ankle while attempting to register one customer. :o) funny but true. You can be sure that I put in a claim for one pair of torn pantyhose. o) funny but true.

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sunflower_sue 7 years, 5 months ago

"I'm pretty much going straight to hell" -RI

Nope! He is incapable! He will take every detour on the way, kill about 5000 years in limbo, and by then, the devil won't even have him! :)

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sunflower_sue 7 years, 5 months ago

If it were a "Sure Thing," it would be a Cusak movie. RI, refill your meds script...you must be out of the "doggie downers." You're making my head hurt with all the computations. yeash

Yes, I voted. I spent all day in a 1904 one-room school (no shocker that I didn't win the spelling bee) and then grabbed my kiddies and my sis and we all went to the voting station to cast our electronic ballot. Culture shock...from 1904, that is. My daughters did like seeing the computer screens instead of the "fill in the blanks." This is the first time I've dragged them with me that they didn't complain. I think they no longer see voting as something that just "old people" do.

Ceal, you share the same view as my mom. She ALWAYS votes out the judges. She figures they get too big for their britches if they stay there too long.

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RETICENT_IRREVERENT 7 years, 5 months ago

Bea,

Damn Bea! 10%? it is a 40% increase in the number of respondents who would vote.

â % = (x% - y%) / y%

25% = 250/1000 35% = 350/1000

350-250 =100 100/250 = .40 = 40%

I would still wager though, that the number of those who would vote with a sample size of 1000, would approximate the national average. (where is a bookie when you need one?)

Wagering is sloppy, thats why they call it playing the odds. If it were a sure thing, it wouldn't be gambling.

Unless you are one of those bible thumpers that deems wagering a mortal sin... In that case... . . I'm pretty much going straight to hell

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Ceallach 7 years, 5 months ago

pelliott, felons and prisoners? First you want to let felons vote, then you yell at everyone . . . why shouldn't felons lose the right to vote, they choose not to live by our society's rules, why would we ever let them decide issues for the society they disrespect and disregard?

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pelliott 7 years, 5 months ago

I want everyone to vote. I want same day registration, or at least 24 hour registration. I want felons and prisoners to be able to vote. The war on drugs has been a war to disenfranchise a large population, the system is hell bent to keep the vote to the normal white people. If they are American citizens, I want them to be allowed to vote and to get to vote. AND I DON'T CARE WHAT ANYONE THINKS ABOUT HOW SOMEONE OR OTHER MIGHT VOTE WRONG. I WANT ALL AMERICAN CITIZENS TO BE ABLE TO VOTE.

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beatrice 7 years, 5 months ago

RI: "Increase the sample size to 1000 people questioned, and I will wager 35% of those will actually vote." Since when does "I will wager" followed by tossing in a 10% increase come into proper statistic computations? I must say, that is some sloppy handling of numbers on your part. Just for that, I'm only going to trash 58% of my neighbors.

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lonelyguy 7 years, 5 months ago

You don't suppose that Keyonna would date a white guy, do you?

Just curious.

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RETICENT_IRREVERENT 7 years, 5 months ago

i_p,

carp?

Just asking for clarification

carp = bottom feeder? or carp = garbage? (In Europe, carp are trophy fish) or flood waters are receding and debris is all over.

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beatrice 7 years, 5 months ago

ms.c: "Someone comes to the house to register us. ... You must get everyone on the list. (You must have) proper papers..." ?!? This sounds more like Communist Russia than liberal Canada. I'm now scared for our neighbors to the north.

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RETICENT_IRREVERENT 7 years, 5 months ago

Sgt,

But is SpeedRacer irreverent?

All these damn wannabes....

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innocuous_posts 7 years, 5 months ago

I'll be sure to scorn 65% of the people I see on my way home. Of course, 35% of those will be carp.

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RETICENT_IRREVERENT 7 years, 5 months ago

Just a few ruminations on today's topic. As of the 86th comment, 22 0f 86 civic commentators expressed negative sediments towards 3 of the OtS respondents(or 25.58%). 1 in 4 (or 25%) of the Ots respondents said the were going to vote.

Traditionally of the eligible population, about 70% actually register to vote. Only 50% of registered voters actually vote.

Using this information, Asking 4 individuals are you going to vote, 2.8 of them are going to be registered voters, and 1.2 of those are going to actually vote.

Now lets figure in the margin of error on a sample size of 4 people being polled using a 95% level of confidence, The standard error would be: ..___
â ' p(1-p)/n where p is the percentage of those OTS respondents who said they would vote and n is the sample size. .......__ or â ' .25(1-.25)/4 =.2165

a 95% confidence level would be +/- 2 standard errors. Figuring the margin of errorat a 95% confidence level: ........................................................__
Margin of error (95%) = .433 x â ' .25(1-.25)/4
................_ = 1.87xâ '4 = .935 We get a margin of error of 93.5%. Obviously our sample size is too small.

Looking at the approximate voting numbers, (Traditionally of the eligible population, about 70% actually register to vote. Only 50% of registered voters actually vote.), 7 of 10 eligible citizens are registered to vote, and 3-1/2 of those actually vote. 3.5 of 10 is 35%. 35% of eligible citizens actually vote.

The OtS respondents rate of voting was 25%. Increase the sample size to 1000 people questioned, and I will wager 35% of those will actually vote. Even though these were all students, I say they represent the average population. So don't trash them alone. Trash 65% of your neighbors on your block.

DISCLAIMER: My computaion of margin of error may be flawed, It has been 20 years since I used to calculate those numbers for school and work.

NON_DISCLAIMER: I stand by the fact that you should be trashing 65% of your neighbors, rather than just these students.

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ms_canada 7 years, 5 months ago

Oh yes, to answer the question, yes, I am going to vote. The next time we have an election. Whenever one is called, that is one of the differences, elections are not automatically timed. One has to be called by the government.

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ms_canada 7 years, 5 months ago

Here in Canada, we don't have to go to register. Someone comes to the house to register us. I did that for a number of years. The pay is pretty good. Some times it is necessary to make several trips to a house to get someone home and that is a pain. You must get everyone on the list. You're in trouble if you miss anyone. And this is always done before each election, it is not a permanant registry. Now, if by chance, you get missed or move, you can swear yourself in at the polling station with your proper papers. I have also worked the polling station and boy that is a tough job, sitting there for 13 hours on your duff. No kidding. It always amazes me the difference between the US system and ours. some good differences and some not so good.

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Cwriter 7 years, 5 months ago

I agree with you Geppetto! It's our right and it's a privilege. Too many people around the world wish, pray, bleed and die for an opportunity to participate in a democratic society. And then there are the people who suffered beatings and some died fighting for all US citizens to have the right to vote. I am thankful for their sacrifices and count my blessings. Yes I vote, it's my right, my duty, a blessing and my privilege to vote.

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macon47 7 years, 5 months ago

it makes me sick the only reason people vote is so they can have an excuse for being late for work, i bet this is some key employee. like the floor got mopped late again today

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geppetto 7 years, 5 months ago

it makes me sick to know that people waste their right to vote.

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prospector 7 years, 5 months ago

Before face masks.... and some pardon thingy.

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sgtwolverine 7 years, 5 months ago

Py, he is still going. I'm not sure how long he'll last. But since he is a Michigan native, he's still a newsworthy figure here.

It's kind of funny to think of him as a klutz; what I remember about him is that he played football at the University of Michigan.

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sgtwolverine 7 years, 5 months ago

Speedracer: "I am now reticent..."

Hey, R_I, did you see that?

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Pywacket 7 years, 5 months ago

Sgt~ Speaking of Gerald Ford--I just read somewhere that he's about to set a record (if he makes it to his birthday, which, I believe, is Saturday) for longest-living former president. RR is the current record holder. Be nice to see poor old Jerry Ford hold a record for something other than "Most Klutziest On or Off the Golf Course."

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BunE 7 years, 5 months ago

Fear not, the liberals are voting.

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westernksgirl 7 years, 5 months ago

Oh, and to answer the question, voted w/ the kids earlier today.

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westernksgirl 7 years, 5 months ago

Hey, OldENuf~ Did you ever get a web link? try this one: http://www.kansas.gov/ent/kssos_ent.html Nothing's been reported yet, though.

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SpeedRacer 7 years, 5 months ago

Azure-Attitude, if I had voted last week I would have voted for Sandy Praeger, then I would not have been able to change my vote after she embraced Kline over the weekend. I am now reticent to ever vote early should something occur at the last minute to alter my perceptions.

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jonas 7 years, 5 months ago

Well, I was able to cast a provisional ballot at the right place, and it does indeed count the same as everyone else's, just a little later, apparently. Thanks, everybody, for the tips. I was going to be very depressed.

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Ceallach 7 years, 5 months ago

Absolutely. It is a small slice of power I have, so like my fellow humans, I abuse it at will :) Seriously now, I do work at keeping up with our judges, as much as possible. The Judge Martin fiasco really woke me up. They stay in too long they tend to become too self important -- I am just doing my little part to save them from themselves.

Now really, RI, as a Merikun I shouldn't have to defend my votes! Don't be a bad man or I may have vote no on your retention :):)

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karolynk 7 years, 5 months ago

For the Northern Virginia displaced Lawrence person who says absentee ballots are not that user friendly. They are wrong! I too live in Northern Virginia, but always vote absentee in Kansas and they are not difficult to complete. My ballot was delivered in October to my permanent residence county.

For those college students who don't vote for several reasons, perhaps there needs to be a ratio of 1:1 for people handing out fliers for voting as to recruiters to get the students to join the military. If you aren't prepared to vote then I guess you'd like to be serving in places like Iraq.

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RETICENT_IRREVERENT 7 years, 5 months ago

Ceal,

Judges are inherently bad? Kind of a judgmental view do you not think?

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dotteboy 7 years, 5 months ago

It would appear that the "liberal" airheads are "not that into politics" and that is just fine with me!

Hey Marion, I would rather be a liberal airhead than a conservative, meth addict,homosexual prostitute buying, pedofile,viagra using, opium based pain killer abusing, raper by phone culture warrior.

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OldEnuf2BYurDad 7 years, 5 months ago

It looks like Giles got voted off the team today...

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Marion Lynn 7 years, 5 months ago

Pywacket:

Perhaps I should have descirbed the respondent is self-indulgent, uninvolved and irresponsible.

Thanks.

Marion.

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BorderRat 7 years, 5 months ago

Stood in line for about 2 hours, made some new friends, visited with a few old friends. Late to work and the Boss couldn't do anything about it. Great way to start the day.

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macon47 7 years, 5 months ago

not original, just cut and paste. but it sums it up. eveyone sitting home whining deserves what they get

It is the VETERAN , not the preacher, Who has given us freedom of religion.

It is the VETERAN , not the reporter, Who has given us freedom of the press.

It is the VETERAN, not the poet, Who has given us freedom of speech.

It is the VETERAN, not the campus organizer, Who has given us freedom to assemble.

It is the VETERAN , not the lawyer, Who has given us the right to a fair trial.

It is the VETERAN , not the politician,< B> Who has given us the right to vote.

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sgtwolverine 7 years, 5 months ago

Wait, what's a pedofile? Is that like a walking folder or something?

Me, I'm voting for Gerald Ford for president today. I mean, he has to be better than the alternative, Michael Dukakis, right?

We are voting for president today, aren't we?

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Ceallach 7 years, 5 months ago

Just voted, felt great, now I have secured gripe rights for another 2 years :) -- omb, we will be waiting for news breaks on how your candidate is doing as the evening goes on:)

blue, unless I personally know of something good a judge has done, I too vote them out. I figure I'm cancelling out the vote of someone who automatically votes to retain a judge if they haven't heard of anything bad they have done.

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libraffe 7 years, 5 months ago

Do you feel like the discussions here on LJWorld helped you make more informed voting decisions?

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Irish_Prince 7 years, 5 months ago

It would be rather amusing if at the next protest somewhere in Lawrence (be it a global warming protest or what have you)...there's a picture in the LJ World....and Keyonna is seen standing in front of the crowd!

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kat 7 years, 5 months ago

thornhill: Thanks for resorting to stereotypes. It's really great when people do that.

I can't believe these people actually admitted they weren't voting. I would be too embarassed to tell the truth, if that was the case!

I, for one, sacrificed my snooze button and voted right when the polls opened, the only free time I have all day.

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Confrontation 7 years, 5 months ago

I already have my "I voted in Douglas County" sticker. I'm hoping to encourage some of the idiots who b*tch about the government and still say "I didn't register in time and I'm really not that into politics." If you don't vote, then I don't want to hear your mouth.

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Azure_Attitude 7 years, 5 months ago

I voted last week. You gotta love the advance voting ballot!!

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sourpuss 7 years, 5 months ago

If you don't vote, you're enslaving yourself. You are content to have other people tell you what to do and how you should live. If all the "liberal" KU students voted, then perhaps Kansas wouldn't be so conservative, eh? I never missed an election, ever. I voted all through college. I voted by absentee ballot if I was not in Lawrence. And if you "don't care" about politics, then what the hell are you doing living in a democracy? Move to Canada... that's a monarchy, albeit a federal constitutional one. ;) My father always contended that if everyone between 18-21 went out an voted, then alcohol would be legal for 18 year olds again.

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Harry_Manback 7 years, 5 months ago

I'm 22, and most of my college friends who don't vote do so cause they don't think it will make a difference. I sort of feel like voting democrat in Kansas is purely symbolic, as do many of those "liberal Kansas college students," but I still do it anyway. And no, KU does not need more stuff to advertise politics or make students aware. The past few weeks I've been bombarded with e-mails, flyers, etc. Most people know about it, they just chose to ignore it.

Honestly, I usually wouldn't vote in a two year election like this either if I didn't feel strongly about the people who are running. A lot of people don't vote in two year elections, but do in 4 year ones. Plus it is a pain to vote if you don't remember to re-register in Lawrence. A lot of people don't know about absentee ballots or they think if you register to vote in Douglas county that you lose residency with your parents (that's what I thought for 3 years; still voted back home though.)

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blue73harley 7 years, 5 months ago

speedracer - regarding the judges, I usually just vote to boot 'em all out. It never works though.

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RETICENT_IRREVERENT 7 years, 5 months ago

Apathy and Ignorance knows no age, race, social, occupational, or gender boundries.

In the words of my buddy Jimmy Buffett...

Is it ignorance or apathy? Hey, I don't know and I don't care.

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Pywacket 7 years, 5 months ago

Bastet~ I think we're operating with very different conceptions of what the word "like" means.

What I tried to say was that the lad's use of "like" probably was grounded in knowledge of Kline's track record. I.e., that his dislike of the man has more to do with Kline's myopic, fundie obsession with abortion (which keeps him from doing what his REAL job should entail) and his illegal and immoral witchhunts in that arena... or his unscrupulous and gratuitous dredging up of a legally DISMISSED accusation by a disgruntled ex-employee of Morrison's in a pathetic attempt to exploit that incident... or his hiring of rabid clinic protester Bryan Brown (who's been jailed and fined many times for his illegal activities).... or... but you get the general idea.

Now if you are looking at "like" as meaning something so simplistic as "duhh...I like dat guy's tie and he's nice to puppies so I'm gonna vote for him.." I would certainly agree that that would be an invalid and "emotional" reason. But I don't think that's what Loren meant--and I think you know better, too.

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beatrice 7 years, 5 months ago

one more thing -- bastet: isn't it possible to like or dislike someone based on their stand on the issues?

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beatrice 7 years, 5 months ago

rot: "They can remember to stay stocked with condoms and to take "the pill" everyday." How can you make such a statement based on the limited amount of info provided? To assume people are sexually active simply because they don't vote is way silly. It would be like my claiming that you must be the Pope since you seem to have a problem with birth control.

Pywacket: ignore the turd, already.

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bastet 7 years, 5 months ago

Pywacket:

Could be that he does, but I'm surprised at you: You just spent all that energy talking about how educated "liberal" thinkers are. So an honestly educated liberal thinker would know better than to vote for anyone just because he or she liked him and vice versa.

There are lots of reasons to oust Kline; it's just a good idea to concentrate on the logically sound and rational ones rather than the emotional albeit hard to ignore ones.

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SpeedRacer 7 years, 5 months ago

Absolutely, positively voted!

What the heck were all those judges? I didn't know a thing about them.

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roger_o_thornhill 7 years, 5 months ago

Nice that folks have died for these dopes to be so flip about the democratic process. Of course when partying and "hooking up" are what your life consists of, something as pedestrian as voting just can't compare. I'd bet these dopes can set their DV-Rs weeks in advance. They can remember to stay stocked with condoms and to take "the pill" everyday.

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Pywacket 7 years, 5 months ago

Nice try, Marion. Notice you didn't try to defend or explain your off-the-cuff "liberal" assumption. Obviously, I hit a nerve.

Get over it, bastet--not liking Phill Kline is an excellent reason to vote the meddling right-winger out.

Young Loren probably has excellent reasons for not liking Kline--as do so many of us. Those reasons are all out there as public knowledge. Just because he did not enumerate them, does not mean they are insubstantial.

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yellatex1 7 years, 5 months ago

Those 'street people' are total idiots! They're college students for crying out loud! They should know the importance of voting... "I didn't register in time..." All I can say is WOW..

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roger_o_thornhill 7 years, 5 months ago

I say we should put a referendum on the next election's ballots stating that the folks like the dummies interviewed for this piece should be smacked about their head and sholders for not voting. Since they admit that they don't pay attention, they won't realize it until it is too late. That'll learn 'em. Fix their wagon.

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Das_Ubermime 7 years, 5 months ago

jonas,

You should still be registered at the old location. Try going there. I have been registered at my permanent addy for 8 years and even though I have moved 6-10 times during that span, I always am registered and always vote at the old location.

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samsnewplace 7 years, 5 months ago

Thank you to all who set me straight and I will vote!

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bastet 7 years, 5 months ago

"Yeah, definitely. Mostly just because I can and I don't like Phill Kline."

Okay, here's the thing: I believe in encouraging people to vote; however, voting is only the last step in the process of becoming informed. Voting "just because I can" without knowing anything about what you are voting for is irresponsible citizenship. And voting against someone because "I don't like him" is just illogical and as dangerous as voting for someone because "I like him."

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karma_king 7 years, 5 months ago

conservative....thanks!

i looked on the county website and typed in my name, and VOILA! they have me still as registered, so i will roll by and toss in my Boyda vote, as well as write in Elmer Fudd for AG.

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Gootsie 7 years, 5 months ago

Yes you can do a provisional ballot at the new place. Someone did that this morning in front of me. And karma, give it a try. You can always check the voters registration website that enoch gave us. I found myself on there.

I moved since last time I voted, didn't change my registration, and when I looked on the website, found that I was indeed moved, went and voted in the new place and it worked just fine.

Go figure.

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Linda Endicott 7 years, 5 months ago

samsnewplace, I'm sure if you spout that to the lawyers every time during the jury selection process ("they're all guilty or the cops wouldn't arrest them in the first place"), they will stop calling you for jury duty.

Matter of fact, if you never want to do your civic duty and serve on a jury, tell them this every time: "I think he's guilty as sin!" They will never pick you for a jury.

As to getting called so often, you aren't off the hook even if you don't vote. Number one, your voter registration will stay on the books for quite some time anyway. Number two, as long as you have a valid KS driver's license, they will still be calling you. Do you plan to stop driving, too?

I do think that the measly pay they give you for jury duty is a disgrace. People are still expected to serve on a jury for $10 a day. If a trial lasted for a week or more, how are people supposed to live off of that?? Your employer sure won't make up the difference.

I will be going out to vote in about a half hour. Goodbye, Kline!

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conservative 7 years, 5 months ago

Karma,

Call the county clerks office and see if you're still registered. Again you might have to cast a provisional ballot that will only be looked at if it is a close race, but still better than not voting.

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bobberboy 7 years, 5 months ago

No cause I can never get anything done on time plus I'm just lazy and don't give a rats arsk anyway. Only kidding - jezzzz people get involved !!

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Ceallach 7 years, 5 months ago

merrill, "college financial aid money continues to be cut" . . . and in Kansas, shared with illegal aliens.

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karma_king 7 years, 5 months ago

serious question here, hope some of the resident smartasses can help.

i was registered to vote here many years ago. moved away. never changed my residency as i was a student. moved back to lawrence.

can i vote today?

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Marion Lynn 7 years, 5 months ago

Didn't take Pywacket long to play the race card!

Jeez; the games the haters play when they are reduced to picking up floor sweepings for ammunition.

Thanks.

Marion.

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betti81 7 years, 5 months ago

jonas-after moving each year in college, i gave up on re-registering and just voted at the old place each year. you could try that as long as it is in the same district/precinct.

i voted on a handy-dandy touch screen. it rocked and i gleefully gave a big hoo-rah to Mr. Morrison and a big fat f-you to philly. man i hope enough people do the same!

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The_Original_Bob 7 years, 5 months ago

Keyonna is from Lawrence. Josie is a junior which means she has been through 1 major election cycle. I agree that it's not a surprise, but that doesn't make it an excuse.

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conservative 7 years, 5 months ago

Jonas,

I think Marion is incorrect. Call down to the county clerks office and ask what your options are. Chances are you can at least cast a provisional ballot that will be reviewed if there is a recount in a close race. Not the best option ever, but better than nothing.

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cutny 7 years, 5 months ago

Oh please, it's no surprise that a bunch of out of town college students are not voting. They are not registered in this county and for anyone that's done the absentee ballot, you only realize how easy it is after you've done it once. With less than a %50 voter turnout, it's not these re-located students that are the problem.

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Pywacket 7 years, 5 months ago

Gee, Marion--what led you to conclude that anyone was a "liberal airhead"? Could it be that the one student you quoted ("I'm just not that into politics") just HAPPENS to be black and everybody "knows" that all blacks are liberal? Because I sure as hell don't see anything besides your own stereotyping that could lead you to the conviction that she--or any of the others polled--is necessarily "liberal."

But WAIT~~ perhaps I have unfairly impugned your integrity. There IS another explanation.

As studies have shown again and again, the more highly educated a person is, the more likely she or he is to vote in a manner that you would call "liberal." Look it up.

The states with the lowest literacy rates (and any other measure you care to use that shows education level) always present as solid RED on election days. Think Mississippi...or Kansas (minus Dg Co, which is an anomaly). The states enjoying a more literate, higher educated populace are BLUE strongholds. Think NY (however that may gall you).

So, on further thought, I'm sure that what you were getting at, Marion, is that if these kids are going to college, it's very likely that their families consider education important, and are educated themselves, and thus their background is, indeed, solidly liberal.

You may be right! I am so happy to know that your comment was not rooted in racial stereotyping, as I first suspected.

And I suspect those wet-behind-the-ears kids will do a lot of growing up in the next two years, at which time they'll have another chance to get to the polls. And if they don't realize the need to vote in 2 years, they certainly will in 4, when they get out into the real world and see just how badly shrub & co have screwed over THEIR economy.

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Laura Watkins 7 years, 5 months ago

man, those responses are really embarassing.

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libraffe 7 years, 5 months ago

The deed is done. Bye bye Kline and Ryun.

It's weird to me how old school the voting technology still is. It will be better when we can use genetic mapping etc and don't have to worry about registering in advance. Our DNA records will prove our identity and we can just vote wherever we are. I'm hoping that technology is in place by 2008. It will make for a fairer process.

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MeeMa8 7 years, 5 months ago

samsnewplace, jury duty names are not pulled just from voter registration anymore. if you have a drivers license your name is already in the pot. and if i'm not mistaken, if you pay property taxes in douglas county they also pull names from that. so go out and vote!

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jonas 7 years, 5 months ago

Craps. I felt obligated to vote against Kline this year. If he wins by one vote, I'm going to be quite upset.

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Marion Lynn 7 years, 5 months ago

JOnas:

You are SOL.

Sorry about that; I did it once myslef!

Thanks.

Marion.

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ranger73 7 years, 5 months ago

oldenuf-try finding a tv station website also-for out west-ksnt in topeka has a lot of stuff from the topeka/manhattan area...

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jonas 7 years, 5 months ago

I don't believe it. I CAN'T vote. I moved in to my new place just a month or two after the last election, and I forgot that I never re-registered for my new address.

Anyone have any ideas?

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ohjayhawk 7 years, 5 months ago

samsnewplace - If you have a valid KS drivers license, you can still be called for jury duty. It is not dependent only on voter registration. From the Douglas County, Kansas website:

Q. How was I selected? A. People who are registered to vote or have a Kansas driver's license, are at least 18-years-old, and live in Douglas County are added to our computer system. The computer system is designed to randomly select prospective jurors.

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average 7 years, 5 months ago

Haven't missed an election I could vote in yet, including some real snoozers (though being registered third-party, I don't have primaries to consider).

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acg 7 years, 5 months ago

Yes, I can't wait to vote, right after work!

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goatdog 7 years, 5 months ago

No. I've found the bullet more effective than the ballot.

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The_Original_Bob 7 years, 5 months ago

Keyonna and Josie are the problem. Ye Gods. I'd be embarrassed to admit what they did.

Voting after work.

OldEnuf... KC Star has an extensive statewide result ticker. I don't think anyone will start providing results until after the polls close.

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trinity 7 years, 5 months ago

keyonna, josie, james...y'all worry me! get off your duffs&participate in YOUR world! sigh kids...

i done did vote. i'm an early&often kinda gal, hahahaaaaa!

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beatrice 7 years, 5 months ago

Yes. Here in Phoenix we have 19 propositions to vote on, in addition to all the regular public offices and Republicans to vote against. (Okay, just kidding on the Rep thing -- there are some here doing a fine job who I plan to support.) Among the propositions are even competing non-smoking bans, one backed by the health industries and the other backed by tobacco companies. Hum, I wonder which one I'll choose? I also hope a mean-spirited proposition to ban gay marriage (already against the law here) and strip benefits, including health insurance, from "domestic partners" of all state employees is defeated. To want to take health insurance away from anyone is just repugnant. Not surprising, it was initiated by evangelicals. (I'll let y'all provide the punchline here).

VOTE!

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OldEnuf2BYurDad 7 years, 5 months ago

Does anyone know a site that will show all the Kansas results, in an up-to-date fashion? I've got a friend running for office in another part of the state.

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OldEnuf2BYurDad 7 years, 5 months ago

I missed a lot of voting opportunities when I was young and stupid, too. I wonder how many college-age people would "forget to register" if we had a military draft?

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samsnewplace 7 years, 5 months ago

NO, they've called me for jury duty four times in the past six years and i'm sick of it! I have no desire to be on/part of a jury again, i've done it once and I quit! They are all guilty or the cops wouldn't arrest them in the first place, duh! So if that is my only way to avoid being called up for jury duty, then so be it! The republicans will win in KS anyway.

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ranger73 7 years, 5 months ago

I bet if you had some type of playstation voting system they would be voting...

Have to wait until the kids are out of school, because they have been studying about this and want to do the kids vote-

(they are still young...and we don't have a playstation...)

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innocuous_posts 7 years, 5 months ago

In other news: "For workers at Venezuela's state-owned oil company, supporting Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez isn't a choice; it's a direct order.
According to an internal memo obtained by ABC News, workers at Petroleos de Venezuela (PDVSA) were recently instructed to support Chavez's re-election campaign or else be terminated. The Oct. 18 memo to managers in the company outlines a 24-point directive designed to mobilize PDVSA's resources and workforce to support Chavez's campaign with both time and money, in advance of the country's Dec. 3 vote. "We should be loyal and consistent with the President of the Republic," the memo emphasizes. It encourages the placement of "propaganda" on buildings and the posting of pro-Chavez material on official PDVSA vehicles. The memo also calls for a donation of 250 million Venezuelan Bolivares (over $116,000) to Chavez's campaign organization, Comando Miranda, in the name of the PDVSA's workers. The penalties for failing to comply with these new directives are severe. Workers are threatened with the loss of their jobs if they do not cooperate. One point, highlighted in capital letters, makes this crystal clear, saying "He who is not with Chavez should not be in PDVSA."" http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/11/democracy_hugo_.html

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Eric Beightel 7 years, 5 months ago

I just moved to Northern Virginia and for a variety of reasons didn't yet register to vote here - I wanted to vote back home to boot Ryun and Kline. Unfortunately, the absentee process for displaced Lawrencians isn't as user friendly as one might like. Now, I wish I had registered here because George Allen needs a swift kick in the arse. His seat is one of the 7 or 8 in the Senate that could turn to the Democrats. Of course, Boyda needs to win to help take back the house. Either way, I could have helped in one state or the other and instead, because I was preoccupied with other things, I help no one and I hang my head in shame.

Here's hoping Kline & Ryun are swiftly removed from their respective offices and that KS is no longer the beacon of Christian Conservatives.

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RETICENT_IRREVERENT 7 years, 5 months ago

I will be obtaining my "I voted" get out of work for two hours sticker shortly. Due to extreme circumstances, I had to stop in to work to grab my work vehicle. I will be back in two hours, no more, no less.

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Reality_Check 7 years, 5 months ago

"No, I didn't register." Might as well have said, "No, I only care about ME and my personal life...I couldn't care less about the state or the country or anyone else."

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ohjayhawk 7 years, 5 months ago

Definitely. My wife and I will be heading to the polls after I get off work.

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Marion Lynn 7 years, 5 months ago

It would appear that the "liberal" airheads are "not that into politics" and that is just fine with me!

Let'em stay home!

Thanks.

Marion.

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conservative 7 years, 5 months ago

Yep, walking out the door now to go and do just that.

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justsomewench 7 years, 5 months ago

thanks, enoch! i'd been hunting around for that and couldn't find it on the DC website. you're a jewel!

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jonas 7 years, 5 months ago

No, I prefer to whine about lack of proper representation. I'm trying to change the world through on-line reader's reaction blogs. I think that's where one finds the most receptive audience to new ideas.

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blue73harley 7 years, 5 months ago

Of course I am voting. Just as soon as I get off work.

Thanks for the links enochville.

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Nikki May 7 years, 5 months ago

I'm shocked that so many (percentage wise) of the college kids said no. When I was at KU I was doing the absentee thing for the first year. Then switched up here after that. I notice that one girl was a freshman, maybe she turned 18 and went to college and missed it because of that. But the junior, he should have been registered 2 or 3 years ago.

Of course, I have adult friends that don't vote. I don't get it at all. I will be using my lunch break to drive from the area near the hospital all the way to haskell to vote and run back. Sure that "wastes" my break, but with my schedule today, that's the only time I have. Guess what, that's what I'll do.

Vote people. I don't care who you vote for, but vote.

Oh, and maybe it's different now, but when I was at KU, there were people on campus handing out fliers and such for canidates.

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Kuku_Kansas 7 years, 5 months ago

One other thought. It's easy to point a finger and say "kids, fix yourselves."

Perhaps the honestly true comments of college students and young adults can help assist politicians, campaigners and election officials in how to generate excitement and registered voters:

  • I didn't register in time
  • I'm really not that into politics
  • I would have to do an absentee ballot
  • I'm just lazy
  • I haven't paid a lot of attention to the TV and
    newspapers
  • I didn't get registered early enough
  • I just didn't pay attention to the deadline

According to this sample, only 1 out of 4 college students at KU (unscientific obviously) would vote, while the other 75% probably have like-minded excuses to not vote.

Regardless of the true answer--lazy, didn't pay attention or no interest--the system can make amends and needs to figure out how to change itself.

I don't excuse the students at all, I'm disappointed in their voter apathy. Actually, rather disgusted. But, if one doesn't feel a reason to vote and isn't moved, they won't.

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tell_it_like_it_is 7 years, 5 months ago

Whats up with these kids? Is that what college teaches them? My un-college educated nieces and nephews all plan to vote today. If my kids where old enough bet they'd be going too. I will be there as soon as the polls open.

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Kuku_Kansas 7 years, 5 months ago

Oldgranny: You remind me of my Cook County/Chicago voting days!!!


Not to defend the students whatsoever, as I always voted absentee while attending KU.

The old adage is that all politics is local. If students, living in Lawrence/Douglas County, do not feel any need to vote or become involved politically at that local level...there is less reason to actually reregister to vote.

This past fall, I relocated and did not register to vote in my new area. I would have loved to have taken part in the Missouri senate race and Amendment 2 vote. But I didn't feel as compelled to register in MO, it just wasn't a priority. Sad to say. Instead, because of my own error, I will be communting back to Johnson County KS and make a statement in the KS Attorney General race.

I do wonder if this was a presidential election year, if more students would have registered "earlier and on-time"?

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Gootsie 7 years, 5 months ago

It is too bad campuses didn't get more attention. Do we want these kids to vote if they have no idea what's been going on, or don't care enough to get out and register?

I voted for Richard Nixon because I thought he was cute (I had just turned 18 and it was the first time 18 yr olds could vote). I gotta wonder.

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Bowhunter99 7 years, 5 months ago

What kind of answer is that?????????????? >< ????

I'm guessing it's probably because the elections don't happen very often OR on a set schedule that some people don't get to register 'on time'....

No voting = No right to complain about the government.

Yes, I'm voting.

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Richard Heckler 7 years, 5 months ago

If any of those on the street people ever need college assistantance they will wish that they had paid attention to politics as college financial aid money continues to be cut.

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Redneckgal 7 years, 5 months ago

Damn right I'm voting. And my daughter that is old enough will be going with me. And the ones that are too young are going to go watch.

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enochville 7 years, 5 months ago

For sample ballots for your precinct, to learn what districts you are in, and to learn who your current elected officials are, go here:

douglascountyelections.com

I have a little bit of recommended reading for the Americans among us as the elections draw nigh. It is very important to learn about candidates before you go vote. So, I have 4 impartial websites that offer information about candidates that you could vote for (even local ones).

p>www.vote-smart.org www.vote411.org www.lwv.org www.congress.org>
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hottruckinmama 7 years, 5 months ago

yes. and i am dragging my recently turned 18 and registered to vote son with me.

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