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Do you plan to participate in an NCAA basketball pool?

Asked at Massachusetts Street on March 9, 2006

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Photo of Courtney Gruber

“No. I’m just going to fill out my bracket, and my friends and I will play that way. No money involved.”

Photo of Chris Polonchek

“Yeah. It makes it more exciting, and it’s something you can do with your friends. Who knows, you might even win some money. It’s part of March Madness, I guess, but I quit paying attention when KU loses.”

Photo of Joey Ostrander

“No, I’m not going to be in a pool. We don’t have one at work or anything.”

Photo of Theresa Hauetter

“No. I usually do, but not this year. I haven’t been paying enough attention to pick good teams.”

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Ceallach 9 years, 8 months ago

Somebody (k_p), is feeling her Cheerios today :)

kansas_prairieland 9 years, 8 months ago


I, Kansas_Prairieland, made your grandparents put up that sign!

bankboy119 9 years, 8 months ago

Bob great point about GW. Hope 'Cuse is out first round.

sunflower_sue 9 years, 8 months ago

enoch, TMI! But thanks for the clinical diagnosis. :o)

Linda Aikins 9 years, 8 months ago

I can't seem to get it to work. I'll try at home too.

jonas 9 years, 8 months ago

O-Bob- Can I see you and raise you an ACC?

Beat Ubermime to the punch!

RonBurgandy 9 years, 8 months ago

I don't know if I would throw the Memphis out there Das...

RonBurgandy 9 years, 8 months ago

canyon_wren - My grandparents had that sign on their pool when I was growing up.

good_kitty 9 years, 8 months ago

isn't there more productive things to be done with one's time?

bearded_gnome 9 years, 8 months ago

I agree with Ceallach...

Gootsi is da' bomb.

okay...can I skip the Bball pool altogether now...thanks.
c u tomorrow.

sgtwolverine 9 years, 8 months ago

Perhaps it's friendly evil from the diversion devil.

sunflower_sue 9 years, 8 months ago

A local pool (I'll not name it) once had a sign on a closet that read "Dangur! Harmfull Chemicles!"

I know I type and seldom check my spelling and am as guilty as the next person...but that was just shameful!

craigers 9 years, 8 months ago

Probably not, but I do like filling the bracket out and seeing how well I do.

Ceallach 9 years, 8 months ago

Come on, Ladies, sign up!!!

When I win :) for a solid week, you guys will have to start each post with, "I agree with Ceallach!"

kansas_prairieland 9 years, 8 months ago


That sign you saw was an original.

I, Kansas_Prairieland, made them put up that sign (minus the "P")!

linux_chick 9 years, 8 months ago

UConn is a good team. Anyone think we can take the tourny... It's always the underdogs that surprise everyone, right?

Go KU :)

Ceallach 9 years, 8 months ago

l_c, how is it in CA today? We are cold and rainy -- AND the steam heat isn't working in my office!

kansas_prairieland 9 years, 8 months ago

Fellow posters.....

I can see you're in a shun Kansas_Prairieland mood today.

I pee...oops! I mean, I "see" how it is! I can take a hint!

Ceallach 9 years, 8 months ago

Oh, Lordy! Someone make a controversial comment -- we're starting to analyze urine :):)

beatrice 9 years, 8 months ago

This thread of fetish talk here today is enough to make Pleather Bob blush! (or at least I think he would be blushing from behind the mask)

tb is a tool of the evil one.

sunflower_sue 9 years, 8 months ago

Enoch, you lost me when you said you couldn't get me meds ;o)

Seriously, sounds as though you know what you're talking about and will make a great Clinical Psychologist.

beatrice 9 years, 8 months ago

oh, I meant to add the little smiley face to the end of that to let you know I was just funnin' ya, enoch. : )

Ceallach 9 years, 8 months ago

Forgive me bankboy, for I have sinned. I am obviously in need of absolution. Oh wait, I don't have to do that anymore! Whew!

sunflower_sue 9 years, 8 months ago

I say vote for the team you would least like to see win. If they lose, you'll be poor but happy. If they win, you'll at least be richer. Makes total sense.

enochville 9 years, 8 months ago

sunflower_sue: you sound just like a former classmate of mine. Just out of curiosity, are you a defensive pessimist?

linux_chick 9 years, 8 months ago

No better, ceallach. It rains here for a week or two at a time. We're on day 4 of 10 of nothing but rain.

But we've gotten NO snow... which is a beautiful thing :)

Ceallach 9 years, 8 months ago

bankboy, you have been granted absolution :)

enoch: Doncha know, some of us have to wait until we get home to register and fill in the brackets :(

enochville 9 years, 8 months ago

sunflower: I am in my last years of my PhD program in Clinical Psychology. Psychologists in Kansas cannot prescribe meds. A psychoanalyst is a practioner of Freud's psychoanalysis. There are not many left, and I am not one.

linux_chick 9 years, 8 months ago

kp: I would think it was rude, but overall, I think people are too worried about germs.

Blah, I agree w/ ceallach. I don't have the attn span to debate this topic anymore.

canyon_wren 9 years, 8 months ago

Back briefly to the community pool focus: our city pool used to have a sign that read "Welcome to our OOL. You'll notice there's no 'P' in it. Please keep it that way!" Was that original in my town, or have you all seen it elsewhere? It's gone now; I suppose the tourists were offended by it.

enochville 9 years, 8 months ago

OK. Das Ubermine, RonBurgandy, The_Original_Bob, and I have entries in the LJWorld OTS group in ESPN's Men's Tournament Challenge.

Several others said that they would get in after they got home from work. I am just checking to see if anyone is having trouble getting set up.

After you register and create your first entry (please use your OTS username in your entry name so that we know who you are), you will see under your entry name a link "Create or join a group". After you click on that you will need to perform a search for LJWorld OTS and then click on it. Then enter the password "LJWOTS". You have now entered that entry into the group. You can create a new entry and go through the same process to enter that one into the group.

See you on the flip side.

sunflower_sue 9 years, 8 months ago

Enoch, You hit the nail on the head! I'm normally an extreme optimist, but I've been in "Defensive Pessimist" mode lately, and so far, it's working like a charm. So, can I just tell you my woes w/out you charging me $100 an hour? Can you prescribe meds? This may work out great! Just out of curiosity, are you a psychoanalyst?

kansas_prairieland 9 years, 8 months ago

Drats! UCONN lost today to Syracuse in the Big East tournament! :(

I am soooo disappointed!


Oh, well.

May each and every member of the UCONN men's basketball team drown in a Louisiana Superdome-size container full of human urine!!

bankboy119 9 years, 8 months ago

Playing Bingo is a sin. You pay money for a raffle? That's a sin too. Lottery? Complete gambling sin.

YourItalianPrincess 9 years, 8 months ago

LOL........... Yes, Canyon it is me with all the names you have listed. Computor issues= losing passwords that were not set. This ones set so hope for the best here.

craigers 9 years, 8 months ago

I don't think Duke or UConn will make it to the Final Four. I don't really see KU making it either but if they get hot, then they have a chance to do anything in the tournament with that defense. Texas won't make it either. I don't know who my picks are but for some reason I don't think those three will make it to the final four: Duke, UConn, or Texas.

Topside 9 years, 8 months ago

Dumbest Question Ever!!! -Comic Book Guy

Hell many as possible! Can't get enough of the tourney.

thunderbuns 9 years, 8 months ago

If there is chance, there is no God.

Gambling is a tool of the evil one.

Don't gamble my friends, you'll only lose.

Take the $ you'd normally lose in a hoops pool and give it to a homeless person. You'll feel better about yourself.

That is all.

Jayhawk226 9 years, 8 months ago

Holy cripers!!! Of course I am!!!!!!!!! NCAA brackets are more fun than an advent calendar in December.

killjoy 9 years, 8 months ago

Speaking of NCAA Pools, didn't KU eliminate their swimming and/or diving team for budget reasons?

sgtwolverine 9 years, 8 months ago

I don't even know that Michigan State is really all that tournament-worthy. They underperformed pretty drastically this year.

But their performance in the conference tournament (starting today) may have an effect one way or another. Heck, if Michigan wins a game or two in the tournament, they might sneak into the big one, somehow.

But with a 65-team tournament, you're going to get a lot of teams that really don't belong in the postseason.

bankboy119 9 years, 8 months ago

l_c I doubt this year.

Ohio State Final Four???? No way. I'd give that 4th spot to NC before I gave it to Ohio State....and I would never give anything to NC.

I can see Duke actually making a run, until JJ can't shoot anymore. Okay so they're done.

My Final Four: UConn, Villanova, Texas and...Kansas? Okay let's throw in WV honestly, I think they could do it.

kansas_prairieland 9 years, 8 months ago


What? R Kelly has a urine fetish or something?

I sure as heck don't!

Okay, well, then, we all agree that being in a community swimming pool (Wading in the deep-end, no less!!) that's full of kids and is completely overflowing with thousands of gallons of urine---and that urine is overflowing to the point that it is making its way out onto the road and cars that are passing by are beginning to hydroplane because of it---is pretty darn gross (germs or no germs)!!!!

Fine. Okay.

Oh, and by the way.........


bankboy119 9 years, 8 months ago

lol Bob I was kidding...just going along with what cutny was saying. I play the lotto, and do office pools sometimes, just not this year. I really hope you didn't think that was a serious comment. Check out my 7:02 post, it most accurately reflects my view.

canyon_wren 9 years, 8 months ago

Is "YourItalianPrincess," "ItalianMafiaPrincess" and "Italian Princess" all the same person?. If not, where is the ItalianPrincess of some months ago? I miss her posts.

linux_chick 9 years, 8 months ago

kp: yes, I mean no germs in human pee. In fact, in some places urine has been used for medicinal purposes.

The U.S. Army has promoted ingesting small amounts of urine for troops:

In situations of war, urinating on battle wounds have saved lives.

RonBurgandy 9 years, 8 months ago

Yes, the C-USA is a very weak conference. But you know they get the KU treatment whenever they go places. Their opponents give extra effort in a chance to upset them. They did have an incredibly hard non-conf schedule. I like Calpari, I think he is a good coach, plus he has Kansas ties.

Unfortunetly, I think that UConn is the best team entering the tournament and I would be far from heartbroken if they bowed out early.

Way early, pre-seeding final four prediction: UConn, Memphis, Ohio State, Villanova. Dark horse: Marquette.

kansas_prairieland 9 years, 8 months ago


Nevertheless.......I still won't go anywhere near a community pool.

And by the way, when you say "sterile" mean like I could do a number 1 all over your hands and then moments later (without washing your hands) you could then eat something with your bare hands with no fear of disease or illness?

Now that I'd like to see!

bankboy119 9 years, 8 months ago

Gootsie if I win and you and beatrice have to say it wasn't Bush's fault I'm all for it haha.

No I don't plan on participating because I haven't been paying attention.

enochville 9 years, 8 months ago

I don't gamble. But, I will play in the ESPN and Sportsillustrated NCAA tournament games. I will also compare with friends how our brackets are doing. I think it is a lot of fun. The nice thing about ESPN's game is that one can submit 5 different brackets.

cutny 9 years, 8 months ago

I love how gambling is the only accepted illegal behavior in this paper. Especially when its the beloved jayhawks. Interestingly enough, nobody gets asked "Are you going to get high while you watch the NCAA tournament?" or "Have you ever driven home drunk from a bar after watching the NCAA tournament?"

enochville 9 years, 8 months ago

Well, so far we have The_Original_Bob and me entered into the LJWorld OTS group. Let's have some more entries! It is more fun when we have more participants. You don't have to know anything about basketball. The first year my wife and I were married she didn't know anything about the tournament, but she played by just picking schools that she had heard of before and she did better than me.

So head over to and enter.

kansas_prairieland 9 years, 8 months ago

Linux Chick,

Be that as it may..........If you were in a community pool and some guy was standing right next to you and you felt the water all around you suddenly become very warm......and then you turned to the guy standing next to you and he just sort of looked at you with a smile on his face, and then he said to you...."Sorry, miss. But it was a beer pee, and just I couldn't hold it in any longer!"...........I sincerely doubt that you would just simply smile right back at him and say in a pleasant tone, "Oh, that's no problem. The fact that you just urinated all over me is perfectly fine with me! That's cool, bro! I know how intense them beer pees can be!"

enochville 9 years, 8 months ago

Well, it seems like there is some interest in a free NCAA Men's Tournament pool for OTS contributors for bragging rights only.

I have created a group over at ESPN for anyone here to join that will keep track of our brackets for us.

You'll need to register with first and create your entries, then join the group "LJWorld OTS". You'll need the password "LJWOTS". Of course, you can't make selections until after Selection Sunday. Please label your entries with username on here (although your user name for can be something different).

Let me know if you have joined successfully, or if you are having problems.

Ceallach 9 years, 8 months ago

I usually enter two brackets, one for what should happen (the beloveds going all the way), and a second bracket, just in case some Hightoweristic referee(s) wages an unholy war against our guys (which of course is the only acceptable reason that we have not played for the championship each and every year).

I miss working in an academic department!! Our grad students were (probably still are) very creative when establishing pools and developing incentives that lure the staff in :)

If some people consider this sinful gambling, well, maybe they should recategorize it under Bingo Alternative or think of it as a raffle :)

kansas_prairieland 9 years, 8 months ago

Well, if the NCAA pool is anything at all like the city of Lawrence pool..............then my answer is absolutely no!!

Them community pools are a disgusting! Hundreds of kids "relieving themselves" in the pool simply because they are too lazy to get out of the pool and walk to the bathroom!!

Honestly, fellow posters, if you stop and think about it....the very notion of a "community pool" is just flat out gross!! Why would anyone go to a pool that hundreds of strangers visit everyday??!!

And please, don't lecture or enlighten me about chlorine!! A zillion gallons of chlorine added daily to a public pool makes no difference to me!

Just the very idea of all those kids (and quite a few adults) doing a number 1 in a community pool makes me sick to my stomach!!

And God help you if you happen to be standing in a community pool next to some guy actually who does a number 2 (with a smile on his face while he's doing it, no less)!!! OH!! MY!! GOD!!You'd need years of psycho-therapy to get over such a horrific/traumatic/nightmare episode like that one!! I know I would!!

Linda Aikins 9 years, 8 months ago

I think we should have one for all of us! No money - just the deal that the "losers" have to say "[winner's name] is the bomb" for a week in all of their posts.

Or something funnier than that - maybe "It wasn't Bush's fault" or "Race you to the nearest roundabout" - things like that.

beatrice 9 years, 8 months ago

cutny, well, I guess you nailed everyone for their hypocrisy of right living on that one (except enochville, of course). People drop tens of dollars gambling on an office pool -- oh the horror. I agree, it is the same exact thing as doing crack cocaine and driving drunk.

Or maybe it is just an annual ritual that adds a little zest to one's enjoyment of the tournament and a friendly game of one-upmanship among co-workers. I can't decide -- evil from the devil or friendly diversion. I'm so torn.

beatrice 9 years, 8 months ago

There don't seem to be that many people interested in college hoops out here in Phoenix, seeing as nearby Arizona State is rarely good, Univ. of Arizona is in Tucson (aka Baja Arizona), and we have a pro team (The Suns!) with the league's reigning MVP Steve Nash. I know a couple of people our here from KU, and maybe we will do some gambling against one another. We'll see.

Also, I'll play along if, when bankboy loses, he will refer to President Bush as our "Category 5 President" for the week after -- even in private, which includes Ann Coulter Fan Club meetings.

sunflower_sue 9 years, 8 months ago

Is this some new swimming hole that is going up next to the racetrack? If so, I'll probably not go unless someone gives me free tickets. I mean, we already have Oceans of Fun and the Great Wolf Lodge, so I don't see how just a round basketball themed pool would attract my business. I'm all for throwing a hose on the kiddies in the backyard. (Sorry, inmate. Didn't mean to stir up any bad memories for you.)

YourItalianPrincess 9 years, 8 months ago

I won't get into any gambling part of it, but will be rooting for our guys all the way. It would be nice to see them go as far as they possibly can this year. We have in the past and it would be great to see it happen again.

I remember two years ago ( don't qoute me ) going downtown with my little one when we made it to the top two teams. It was to awesome to see so many people downtown celebrating. People were everywhere yelling, cheering, and having a great time. We would have stayed longer but some college girl decided she would flash everyone from a car. My son was only seven at the time so that basically ended our fun time. I covered his eyes of course and we walked home.

GO KU!!!!!!!!!!!!! WIN BIG BOYS, YOU KNOW YOU WANT THIS!!!!!!!!!!

sgtwolverine 9 years, 8 months ago

Hey, I'm going to do more than participate -- I run one for my family and friends. It makes the tournament so much more fun.

And I hate to break it to Theresa, but that's no excuse. In my experience running my pool (not long, but four or five years), people who don't know the teams have just as much shot at winning as those who do know the teams. In fact, two years ago the winner was a woman who didn't follow basketball. Hey, I don't even follow the season very closely, and I won two years in a row.

It always reminds me of the Mitch Albom radio show. Albom is a sportswriter, and he's competed against a dog. Each round they pick their winners, Mitch by "expert" analysis and the dog by choosing one of the dog biscuits on the team name (they put out the two teams on separate sheets of paper and put a biscuit on each). I caught an update on that last year, and well into the tournament, the dog had a significant lead on the sportswriter. Go figure.

So Theresa, it doesn't matter how closely you've followed the season; fill out a bracket anyway.

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