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Why do you ride the T?

Asked at The T on June 23, 2006

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“Because I like the ride around town. I have a good time riding the T.”

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“It’s my only transportation other than a bicycle. It gets me everywhere I need to go.”

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“Because my son was walking by and wanted to ride the bus. We’re just riding it for fun today.”

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“Because it only costs a quarter for kids to ride, and I get more exercise walking to and from the bus station. It’s fun for kids to ride and everyone is really nice to you. I just like to get out and go places.”

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lunacydetector 8 years, 11 months ago

Never have and never will. i propose a citizens review board to monitor the T, for the taxpayer's sake.

Linda Aikins 8 years, 11 months ago

We use the T every day to take special needs person in our house to work and back. We need da T!

sweetpeagj 8 years, 11 months ago

Change of subject..my son was struck by a bus on the 21 of June at noon near ninth and missourri. The bus took off along with the one behind it. If anyone saw anything please contact the Lawrence Police Department. We did find out that it was the Lawrence Bus Company bus that was involved. My son was taken to Lawrence Memorial Hospital. They never even stopped to see if he was alive or not. He was struck on the right side of his body and back. Please, if you have any info please contact the police. Thank you..Jen

Noemon 8 years, 11 months ago

Jen, have you contacted the police? Given that you know the company that ran the bus and the time at which your son was hit, it seems like it would be fairly easy to figure out which bus it was that struck him, and who the driver was.

Mike Blur 8 years, 11 months ago

We've heard you many times now luny. Time to stop braying and time to start action. When are you going to step up and get the review board started?

bankboy119 8 years, 11 months ago

I don't ride it, never have never will.

On another note, my family was telling me how they had some kid come by selling magazines and the cops pulled up and arrested him. He was arrested because he didn't have a permit to sell magazines and only had an expired ID.

Only in Lawrence...

jonas 8 years, 11 months ago

Ummmm. . . . usually because I'm driving, I guess.

jonas 8 years, 11 months ago

bankboy, lunacydetector:

"I don't ride it. Never have, never will"

Why? Is it a pride thing, or do you just not want to associate with people unless they have cars?

cutny 8 years, 11 months ago

Lunacyinspector, Oh yes, I'm sure anybody that gives a Sh*t is ready to jump in and join your review board. Sounds like an army of one to me. Maybe I'll start one too, idiocy detector. hey bankboy, got change for a buck? BTW, you do need a permit to sell, kid or not. When you say "arrested" I suppose you mean he was cuffed, processed and had his mug shot taken at the police station, or was he merely cited and given a ticket, because the latter does not qualify as being "arrested."

Godot 8 years, 11 months ago

The way to increase the ridership on the "T" is to have more DUI checklanes.

sgtwolverine 8 years, 11 months ago

I wish I could be somewhere with a bus system with a cool name like that. In Ann Arbor, the buses say AATA. But the bus that drives among the cities around Ann Arbor is called W.A.V.E. The Washtenaw Area Value Express. I am embarassed every time I see it (which, fortunately, isn't often, since it's not a big service).

Detroit also has the distinction of having a singularly useless elevated rail system -- the People Mover -- in downtown. It's a fine idea, but it's a pretty small loop, and it doesn't really intersect some of the big attractions; most notably, they haven't expanded it to include stops near or at the football and baseball stadiums.

sunflower_sue 8 years, 11 months ago

I would ride the T but I just cant get them to drive 7 miles out to my house to pick me up. I would like to see more people ride the T. Maybe I'll make a day of just riding the bus w/ my kiddies and see where we get. Of course, I'll have to drive the 7 mi. to the nearest bus stop.

I'll be in San Fran for 18 days next month. I will be relying on public transportation. Of course, they have many different systems. I think I'll use the "muni" the most. Other than that, probably the BART and I might just ride a cable car or two for fun. I'm going out w/ my mother. A muni monthy pass for her only costs $10! And mine will only be $45. Heck of a lot cheaper than a car or taxi and it will get us where we need to go. I'm thankful for public transportation even though I don't use it here.

sgtwolverine 8 years, 11 months ago

Sue, I understand the difficulty of using the buses when you live outside town. I live in a rural area, too, so the only possible way to get anywhere is to drive my own car.

That's what made things so difficult when my license was suspended for two months. The only way I could get anywhere was if someone drove me. If I lived in Ann Arbor (or any other larger city), it wouldn't have been a huge hardship (though it still would have been kind of a pain).

ms_canada 8 years, 11 months ago

I never ride the bus in my city because it is simply just to inconvenient, oh wait, I lie, I ride the bus to the Folk Music Festival each year, but that is only after I drive to a mall parking lot and then hop on the bus down the hill to the park. Works great and I can be there in 20 minutes car ride included. And the bus is free to seniors. Otherwise, I never ride it.

Kathleen Christian 8 years, 11 months ago

Too bad they don't pay these bus drivers a decent living wage. They have a great deal of responsibility transporting people safely and you'd think they'd be compensated well for this. They require rigerous training, a specialized license and yet the company who operates and manages the T (in this town) could care less for the drivers. Most can barely afford to pay for their gas to get to work. It's criminal not to pay these driver's a better income.
Think about that when you ride these nice buses, perhaps you should tip your driver just for the extra mile of courtesy they offer their passengers OR just be extra nice to them.

sunflower_sue 8 years, 11 months ago

Thanks TOB! This will be a "working" vacation but hopefully we will have time for some fun. I can definitely handle the high temps in the low 70's!!! The last week we will be in Davis, CA where the temps are more like here (YUCK!) But I hear that Davis is a great little town.

sunflower_sue 8 years, 11 months ago

Where does one get a map for the T? Is there one on-line? The newspaper article doesn't mention it.

tufoak 8 years, 11 months ago

the T is the biggest joke in the whole darn state. when it was started so long ago i don't even remember probly around 5 years ago i would like to know how much it has cost the tax payer todate to furnish a ride for each person that has got on i'm sure 25 or 50 cents don't cover it. the M-T is just another way lawrence hippys try to play sim city and look bigger than the small town we are and it makes me mad as heck to c the M-T going down the road.

i never will ride the M-T as long as lawrence will ever have it the reason is it's a waste of my money as long as i'm paying taxes for it!

emgraves 8 years, 11 months ago

Wow, tufoak, that is really going to "show" them. You just keep on paying for it and not using it so you can complain about it, as apposed to actually using what you are paying for

beatrice 8 years, 11 months ago

"Because I love him," replied Mrs. T.

tufoak: I really want to rip into your statement and your mangling of the English language, but I'll leave it at this -- it is "hippies," not "hippys."

Bankboy -- what would you suggest? That the criminal element be allowed to just roam the streets and knock on any door they choose? Sure, today it is magazine, but tomorrow it is selling crack! We need to nip it, I say. That is the problem with you conservatives, always soft on crime! : )

Linda Aikins 8 years, 11 months ago

"the T is the biggest joke in the whole darn state"

Actually, I happen to think that not turning the farmland area into the library is the biggest joke.

Just my opinion.

Anyone know if there is a roundabout going in at Peterson Road and Kasold? Is there a link to road plans in Lawrence?

Thanks.

sunflower_sue 8 years, 11 months ago

bea, you crack me up! I actually snorted coffee out of my nose.

nowandthen 8 years, 11 months ago

Beatrice--- How are conservatives soft on crime? If they're CONSERVATIVE wouldn't they be more opt to have crime delt with???

Emily Hadley 8 years, 11 months ago

I am thrilled that the bus system is doing so well. I recall all the work that went into developing plans for it about ten years ago. The plans were developed with intensive interaction between residents, the city administration, and whatever consultation and planning types were involved. We are really spoiled to have the T. The buses are so new and clean, they will stop anywhere that's safe along the route (try that in Chicago or LA!!), they will even call your transfer bus to make sure it waits for you to get there, they have wheelchair lifts, they are on time, and it is the cheapest bus I have ever ridden. Friends that move from other areas with bus systems are literally in disbelief when they see how friendly our system is.

Cities can only exist with mass transit, it is just part of what created the dense urban landscapes that we are used to seeing today. My grandmother rode a bus from Tonganoxie and then a train to Kansas City to work in a hospital everyday. The 50s car marketing did away with that entire system and left her dependent on getting rides and then owning cars. It's a shame, that doesn't seem like progress to me.

Parking lots are simply not cool; they are a huge waste of tax money and green/development space. I love the idea of seeing fewer new ones pop up where old buildings go down, and I think we have done a fine job of making this a possibility.

If you haven't ridden the bus, try it, and take your bike on it! (For a sample tour ride, you will just end up where you started.) Grab a schedule and check out the routes. It is great to take your bike up the hills and then get to ride it down them. Sometimes I ride to the Merc and then load my bike on the T and ride home when I get too much stuff to fit in my backpack. It is a great backup plan when I impulsively get heavy stuff, ice cream, etc.

conservative 8 years, 11 months ago

As far as the solicitor question. Yes you do need to have a permit to go door to door soliciting. Not real sure if there is an exemption for schoolage children, but seems reasonable there would be. The rationale behind requiring a permit is that it helps prevent scam artists from duping people. Anyone with a permit must carry it with them and is required to show it to you if requested. At least that is my understanding, and I have been shown a permit before by a solicitor.

My rules for solicitors are quite simple. If it is a child that I know I will usually buy something to help out their fundraising. If I don't know them, or if it is an adult a polite no thank you is what they receive. I have had occasions where some of the adult solicitors want to continue their sales pitch even after I have indicated that I will not be buying anything. At that point my likelyhood of remaining polite greatly diminishes.

nowandthen 8 years, 11 months ago

OK, my apologies.

Well, anyway...I've never ridden the T, but I've never had to. I would if need be. I have nothing against it.

I heard about those people around town selling magazines. Most of whom I heard were women, though.

flux 8 years, 11 months ago

The T needs to run later in the evenings, especially on Friday and Saturday nights, running back in forth from the downtown strip. Seems like everytime I do the right thing and leave my car downtown on the weekend after a few beverages the next morning I have a ticket in my windsheild. Of course mybe DUI's are big buisness for the city and they dont want to cut into their profits.

bankboy119 8 years, 11 months ago

TOB, he was arrested in my parents' driveway.

I don't ride the T and won't because of the amount of time it takes. To me, my time is more important than a little amount of money saved. It is not worth my time to go on some one else's schedule when I do not have to. It has nothing to do with pride.

bugmenot 8 years, 11 months ago

First thing's first here:

The biggest joke in the state is the education system.

Second thing second: The T really is a great service. It doesn't need to turn a profit. It is helpful to the people of the city, and could save an awful lot of money for people in terms of gas prices, car maintenace, parking tickets etc. It also could cut down on pollution... and traffic congestion. If people could stop being so snobbish ... or fearful... or whatever the problem is, and use the darned thing.

third thing third: Flux is right. Busses that run later on the weekend would really be helpful.

Last thing last: I do use the T from time to time. When my car is broken, I use it. Sometimes I just take the T downtown in the afternoon rather than taking my car.

Tony Kisner 8 years, 11 months ago

Bug - maybe we can get the people who run the T to try running the schools.

sweetpeagj 8 years, 11 months ago

A police report was filed at the ER. My son only glimpsed the back of the bus as it rode away. A group of people I contacted and his girlfriend hunted down the bus and contacted the police with that information. I am still waiting to hear back from them about the drivers and the schedule they couldn't miss or else they would have stopped and made sure my son was taken care of. As far as the T is concerned, I have never used it but clients of mine rely on it to get to appointments and job interviews. Most clients I used to work with could not afford the expense of a vehicle so this worked out well for them. Maybe if more people used public transportation we could stop having the city of Lawrence look like a clip from a horror film. Back to back traffic, senseless accidents because of countless reasons, pollution, etc..etc.. My son may have been hit by a lawrence bus company but I still believe in the value that the T brings to our community.

jonas 8 years, 11 months ago

Bankboy: A valid concern. Perhaps I read a little more vehemence into your post than you put there. Of course, having the same line as Lunacydetector will tend to do that, something about the osmosis of trollishness, or something, but clarification will kill that, I guess.

Grundoon Luna 8 years, 11 months ago

In Chicago, and most urban areas, public transportant is a way of life for just about every demographic. If you told us there was a stigma attached we'd look at you lie you were nuts. but here, while there are some that just want to save gas or perhaps have another pragmatic reason, it appears to define the haves and the have nots and you critical haves should just get over yourselves.

That bus gets a lot of people to work and not just teenagers. The bus that goes to the business park is hardly empty and the stops there ususally have riders waiting. The T is an important part of our community that we had needed for a long, long time. So you nouveau riches posters just shut your mouths and count your blessings that you don't have to rely on such transportation that is so beneath you. And saved the Spencerian rhetoric. It is so tired.

And YES!!! Have a bus that cruises the square on the weekend nights to prevent drunk driving.

Grundoon Luna 8 years, 11 months ago

Ooooh, and SUNNY_SUE!!

I was in Berkeley about 3 weeks ago and took the BART in to SF that Saturday night. I'm glad I didn't rent a car. If you can find a place to park it is sure to cost you dearly. If you get over to Pier 31 there is a joint called Dante's that had some great broiled swordfish and dungenous crab in ginger sauce. It was wonderful!! They had a Grand Mariner Margarita that was pretty killer, too. I was warned about the panhandlers there, but I was still shocked at the number of them. YEOW!

You may already know this stuff, though, I get the feeling you've been there before.

downtoearth17 8 years, 11 months ago

I've been riding the T for over 5 years and yes it did begin with a rocky start and not that many people rode it, but now it has become huge. I have nothing against the citizens of lawrence, I just wish that some of you would stop being so judgmental about the T. Okay, so some of the people that ride it have a low income and DEAR GOD they're NOT WHITE! but how can that completely turn you off of saving a few bucks at the pump, and maybe riding it downtown on a saturday afternoon when you just dont feel like driving? I don't understand how you can jump to a conclusion and just proclaim that you will never ride the T. At least try it, you may like it. There's been nothing wrong with the T all the years I've ridden in it, and maybe some people on it were kind of strange, but it's not like they're going to kill you. It's on time, it's safe and dependable. Very toasty in the winter months, and very cool in the summer. So please, just TRY it, just once. You'll save a lot of money and gas, and [BY GEORGE!] you'll see normal people riding it.

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