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Is it too distracting for crossing guards to wave at passers-by while working?

Asked at Massachusetts Street on January 28, 2006

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Photo of Mike Payne

“I don’t think a blanket no-waving policy is necessary. I would hope our crossing guards would be capable of using their own discretion.”

Photo of Adrienne Njoroge

“I think it would be more of a distraction for the drivers than for the crossing guard because it draws their attention away from the children around them.”

Photo of Courtney Williams

“No, I don’t think it’s distracting. I think it’s just people being friendly.”

Photo of Mike Maude

“Yeah, it probably is. It can give a mixed signal to the traffic.”

Comments

redbird 9 years, 6 months ago

Welcome to the friendly city of Lawrence!!! Too many people just don't want to communicate in this city....I have been throught that intersection,many times,and she is doing her job very well....she pays attention to the children but she in turn does try to be polite and friendly to all others in her zone.This is something that people in this area do not like,apparently,try to converse with a stranger around here,hell simply "wave" at them and see what the response will be!!!

supermel718 9 years, 6 months ago

Does the no more waving policy include flipping the bird?

bankboy119 9 years, 6 months ago

Is Lawrence really trying to "ban" waving at traffic if you're a crossing guard? I really didn't think I could believe that the people in charge were any bigger idiots but Boog did bring us Dada....so why am I surprised.

classclown 9 years, 6 months ago

My guess would be that the driver that complained about this found herself in a quandary since with one hand on the wheel and one holding a phone next to her head she didn't know how she could wave back and decided it was best to complain that it was a "distraction".

Ever since I moved to this state I've been waved at by crossing gaurds wherever I have encountered them. Not once has it ever distracted me. People drive at much faster speeds through the streets than they do in a school zone paying more attention to their radio or Big Mac or phone conversation than they do the road.

How many people do you see honking and waving at friends while driving 45 or more on the streets?

classclown 9 years, 6 months ago

If a simple wave causes such a reaction then somebody obviously does not deserve to even have a license. Handling a vehicle is way too complicated for you.

sunflower_sue 9 years, 6 months ago

Kline, NEED MORE DECAF! Or maybe half caf half decaf. Do I need a Grande, or maybe just a Tall? Should I buy fom Starbucks, or maybe I should get it from La Prima Tazza. Maybe I should just go through a drive up. Should I get a doughnut to go with it? Maybe I should try to cut back. I JUST DON"T KNOW!!! TOO MANY POSSIBILITIES!!! AGHHHHHHHHH!

bankboy119 9 years, 6 months ago

Can we get rid of the roundabouts first?

dgarrison 9 years, 6 months ago

How many of you want to go to a Bon Jovi "Have A Nice Day" concert with me, raise your hand... NO WAIT! Don't raise your hand! That could put Kline on the curb again...

9 years, 6 months ago

This is really sad. Waving is such a friendly gesture and it's good to have positive role models around the children. Obviously this man who is complaining is in too much of hurry....and unfortunely he has forgotten what life is really about. Life is about being nice to others and finding true happiness. The crossing guard is living life and the complaining driver is lost in his own hell.

teach1reach1 9 years, 6 months ago

It was a MAN that complained, thank you very much! I've had many men tell me they can't mulit-task. So I'm guessing driving and checking out women can't be done well, either. But seriously, read the article for today. The guard that got reprimanded wasn't the one that caused the problem. I think the paper needed to report exactly what was so confusing for him that he couldn't assess the situation while driving within the 20mph limit...or so we hope!

teach1reach1 9 years, 6 months ago

AND what about the poor tax people that jump up and down and wave during every rush hour? Music, bright lights, bouncing people? Now that's distracting! How can I tell? People in front of me nearly having wrecks because they didn't realise the car in front of them had stopped. I think getting them to stop the theatrics would positively affect a greater number of people.

bearded_gnome 9 years, 6 months ago

Okay, but what's it mean E_M if have: one thum up? or, two thumbs up??

bearded_gnome 9 years, 6 months ago

imagining the trouble: Kline faced by the Barista quandry... hmmm...what to order...oh but the sounds, PEOPLE TALKING BEHIND ME!
OTHER PEOPLE DRINKING COFFEE!

AND THIS INDIVIDUAL WANTS ME TO CHOOSE FROM THE LIST?!? AHHHHHHHHRGHGHG CAN'T TAKE IT ANY MORE!

bearded_gnome 9 years, 6 months ago

answer the question: no a crossing guard isn't distracting as waving, unless that CG is topless with at least one balloon above her head!...

I say, we must equip every roundabout in the city with a friendly waver in the middle, who only waves at those individuals who go the right direction.

btw, the complaint seemed to come through the "traffic safety committee," the boys and girls who give us these roundabouts.

Grundoon Luna 9 years, 6 months ago

Don't make her use her thumb. People will think she's hitchhiking.

Kontum1972 9 years, 6 months ago

Dear Frustrated Prairie Park resident:

MB you should be more in touch as to how tough this job of being a crossing guard is, have you ever spoken to the crossing guard, personally? I have one who works a 4 way stop on Kasold, mb u should come down here every morning and keep tabs on how many people run this stop sign when there are kids in the crosswalk because they are in such a big hurry to get to work or class because they are late..to tell u the truth they run it when there is no crossing guard so be a good frustrated citizen and engage your brain b4 u put your mouth in motion...BTW....how is your sidewalk situation, and do something about K-10 too?

PS they are looking for good help in Iraq too! Be a good citizen, they are taking in the 40's now...good bonus too!

killjoy 9 years, 6 months ago

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Confrontation 9 years, 6 months ago

I'd like to see a crossing guard dressed in a gorilla suit. It'd scare the piss out of the kids, but it'd sure crack me up!

Confrontation 9 years, 6 months ago

Maybe Christian Moody could do this as his new job. He sure can't play basketball.

Ceallach 9 years, 6 months ago

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dviper 9 years, 6 months ago

This waving thing reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where the candy bar heiress is walking along the sidewalk wearing a bra top, and is then sued for being a distraction and causing a wreck. LOL

sunflower_sue 9 years, 6 months ago

Kline, C'mon, don't spoil our fun!

Prospector, I was a 6th grade crossing guard. We had boy guards, too. I also got to wear the nifty belt thingie, plus a badge! I was on a very busy street and I can remember a close call or two. I did almost get hit by a guy on motorcycle once. He didn't notice the truck stopped in front of him in time and swerved to miss it...right towards me. YIKES! He missed all us kiddies and like a true gentleman, sacrificed himself and his bike. (Just scratches for both.)

Ceallach 9 years, 6 months ago

I wonder if Mike Maude was one of the consultants that recommended roundabouts?

Ceallach 9 years, 6 months ago

Sorry, Kline -- we couldn't tell that you were smiling :)

sunflower_sue 9 years, 6 months ago

Prospector, I think liability and an unsafe world has done away with them. I don't remember the last time I saw a 6th grade crossing guard. Part of our duties was to put up and take down the flag everyday. I still see kids doing this but with not the same "respect" that we were taught to use. Kinda sad. Mrs. Kerns (my 6th grade teacher) would have eaten these kids for lunch. I affectionately refer to my elementary school as "little bootcamp."

sunflower_sue 9 years, 6 months ago

e_m, that is hillarious! I would love to see you do that...jump out of the bushes and stop traffic, that is. You would scare the he!! out of me!

bearded_gnome 9 years, 6 months ago

yeah, I too wondered if consultant buckaroo Mike is a "consultant" working on some one or two of the multitudinous city-commission-commissioned consultant studies.

bearded_gnome 9 years, 6 months ago

I would like to state publicly that I am relieved that Kline was only joking...one less driver to worry about! whew!

bearded_gnome 9 years, 6 months ago

aside from hitchhiking, standard thumb gesture meanings, established by the Caessar, couple thousand years ago: two thumbs up, you live on, and the crowd liked what you did.
one thumb up: you get to live, and you'll be glad for that. one thumb down: you're a dead gladiator.

two thumbs down, you're really dead meat for the circus animals, and the crowd hates your guts, literally!

now, apply that to crossing guards?


60-years and up, gravity--lol.

Confrontation 9 years, 6 months ago

If I had one, I'd lend it to you even_money. Of course, I'd expect you to spot clean and dry clean it before you returned it.

sunflower_sue 9 years, 6 months ago

Supergnome, your 3:42 is almost a "Bushism."

bearded_gnome 9 years, 6 months ago

thanks.
don't misunderestimate me Sue... writ that way for emfassis... now, gorillas as crossing guards, would really drive that complaining driver bananas?

hootergirls as crossing guards? work for tips?

beatrice 9 years, 6 months ago

prospector: "Me thinky Marion is playing land whale today." I think you nailed it! You are a regular Columbo (or would you prefer Monk?).

As far as today's question -- one would really have to give it their all in a wave, like one would if stranded on an island and they see a plane in the distance, to really be considered distracting. A simple wave hello is just nice.

kansasnative 9 years, 6 months ago

If people are extremely distracted by her simple but friendly parade wave (aggressive - extreme LOLOLOL) while passing a few moments waiting for more precious kids to cross our street - then that person needs to carefullly consider going on prozac or maybe not having that morning coffee afterall. I would LOVE to see your driving record.

Purell 9 years, 6 months ago

I can't believe that this is even a question. How many kids will have to die or be seriously injured before we put the clamps on unnecessary waving by crossing guards?

BTW, can they smoke or uses cell phones while on duty? We better include those in the ordinance. Wait, no dancing too.

Hong_Kong_Phooey 9 years, 6 months ago

If you're so stupid that you can be confused by a waving crossing guard who utilizes a handheld stop sign, you shouldn't be driving. Next thing you know, people will be complaining that roundabouts are confusing...

sunflower_sue 9 years, 6 months ago

militant, If you wave at me, I'll assume you're choking on a hot wing and I'll run over and do the Heimlich on you...because waving is confusing.

killjoy 9 years, 6 months ago

I think that we'll probably see an end to the wave at sporting events now as well.

This will be covered in my new book titled, "Distraction in America"...subtitled ADD, the pandemic.

beatrice 9 years, 6 months ago

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YourItalianPrincess 9 years, 6 months ago

Waving goodnight to all of you in here.

Smile at everyone.........it makes others wonder what you are thinking about.

beatrice 9 years, 6 months ago

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sweetpeagj 9 years, 6 months ago

Hey, I happen to be a person who enjoys being around waving, smiling people. I also know the difference between waving and holding up that stop sign crossing guards use. Maybe you could call for national attention and figure out who I am. Reality is, nobody cares who I am, I didn't make Lawrence look small and petty yet again.

bearded_gnome 9 years, 6 months ago

somebody puncture his balloon! its about to pooopp! oh, that's his head...

save the whales instead, envirowacko too?

narrow-minded-trying to shut this down-trying to call down national attention--is Matt Drudge covering this, if he does, it'll be, the story of how silly it is to ban the wave and yet again some little person walks around with a hair-triggered offense-o-meter on his life.

I suspect that Mrs. White has made many many more kids' lives safer than you will ever, mr. pro se lawyer...and with that are you saying you actually are a lawyer. did you menace the LJW with legal action over the posts removed above? fold up your tent and go home!

bearded_gnome 9 years, 6 months ago

BTW, I just looked at the drudgereport, a site I do frequent, and Mr. Whales' ain't mentioned in any of the headlines...

once I did inform drudge RE some local politics, and next day the ljw servers were flooded 'cuz Drudge listed that lawrence story (screamin' Howard Dean came to Lawrence), but don't know if I should take credit for that, or whether Matt Drudge caught that himself.

Purell 9 years, 6 months ago

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sweetpeagj 9 years, 6 months ago

I wonder why everyone of Save the whales posts were taken off this sight. Must be the magic of LAWYER BS

bearded_gnome 9 years, 6 months ago

this morning, he wrote me a private message through the board, asking to meet me in person. I told him that after how he'd been treated, that he obviously had convictions over this. but I declined, telling him that I value my annonymity here and only two here know who I am. didn't hear from him again.

RonBurgandy 9 years, 6 months ago

Man, this message board has been whacked to peices, hasn't it?

badger 9 years, 6 months ago

The streets ran black with electrons.

It was chaos.

"Oh, the electricity!"

sweetpeagj 9 years, 6 months ago

same here..private messege wanting me to give him my info..if he had the power to call the gods of national media and get an innocent woman reprimanded for some other guards actions..he could figure out who I was.

bearded_gnome 9 years, 6 months ago

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bearded_gnome 9 years, 5 months ago

Hey, omb, I'm so glad you're obviously not one of those "stupid Bobs." they're a blight whereever they rome, or is that roam, or is that rhom...I'll seu.

bearded_gnome 9 years, 5 months ago

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sweetpeagj 9 years, 5 months ago

must be the gnome offended him or maybe it was the beard that distratced him. you weren't trying to be nice were you?? Maybe that really confused his lawyer senses. Or maybe it's your spelling lol..good to see you back though..

bearded_gnome 9 years, 5 months ago

sometimes, Sweatpea, I purposely misspell for emphasis, or is that emfassis... yeah, how did I get to the beginning of his hit list? this guy's behavior certainly confirms my desire to maintain my annonymity on here!
he should try the following: say the word "obsessed" ... all three sylabals slowly, gradually repeating it so he speaks it more slowly each time, to where it takes him five full seconds to say "obsessed."
he should do this every day, several times a day!

classclown 9 years, 6 months ago

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sweetpeagj 9 years, 6 months ago

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sweetpeagj 9 years, 5 months ago

I wasn't trying to belittle you for the spelling..I have read and posted with you long enough to know that that is how you can make people pay attention. I think that his list was way too short and very selective for all the people that should have been on it. I will feel honored instead of upset Proud member of the SHOEMAKER LIST..wonder if it's a sign of the ones that he couldn't intimidate..we beat a lawyer at his own BS game..yeah for us gnome :)

bearded_gnome 9 years, 5 months ago

I said this about the misspelling more for others who might be looking on, I knew you'd know from OTS experience with my wacky ways... yeah, beat a lawyer...the saddest part is that if he'd been reasonable polite we wouldn't have resorted to treating him like a troll, but when you act like a little stinky troll, its gonna motivate people to react.

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