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Should Kansas schools allow corporations to sell soda and candy in vending machines?

Asked at Massachusetts Street on January 23, 2006

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“Absolutely not. I think those things are poison, and they contribute to learning disabilities and obesity problems. It’s not food.”

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“I think they should. We have about 10 vending machines in one spot at Topeka High. I think the students can make their own decisions about it.”

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“Sure. Didn’t you drink soda and eat candy when you were growing up? It would be better if they sold sports drinks and other kinds of food, but they should be able to have them there.”

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“Yeah, why not? I don’t think the responsibility lies with the schools or corporations. I think it lies mostly with the parents and then with the students.”

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Richard Heckler 9 years, 4 months ago

No way Jose...

Are you drinking enough water?

Our bodies are almost 75% water every cell, tissue and organ in the body needs water to function. Dehydration can result in heartburn, stomach ache, recurring or chronic pain (such as lower back pain and headaches), mental irritation, depression and (ironically) water retention. Dehydration is also the primary trigger of daytime fatigue. Drinking the recommended eight glasses of water a day might seem a little overwhelming, but about half of our daily intake of water comes from our food another good reason to include at least five servings of fresh fruit and vegetables in our daily diet. Cold water is absorbed more quickly into the system, making it more effective than hot drinks. Another disadvantage of coffee and tea is that they are both mild diuretics, so they stimulate the kidneys and increase urine output. Fruit juices and fizzy drinks are fine as sources of fluid, but can contribute to weight problems and tooth decay. Try diluting them and encouraging kids to alternate sweet drinks with water. It's cheaper, and better for them. If you're doing any kind of physical exercise, you'll need more water to replace the loss from sweat. But don't be fooled by the marketers of sports drinks and "smart water", who would have you believe that mere tap water isn't enough. Consumer magazine says that for exercise lasting less than 90 minutes, plain water is fine. For longer periods, a sports drink with added glucose and electrolytes may be beneficial. For the record, mainstream medical opinion remains firm on eight glasses of water a day for a normal teenager or adult, six glasses for over-fives and four glasses for under-fives. But remember, if you're an active person, if you're ill or breastfeeding, your needs will be greater. One simple indicator is your urine: if there is an odour, or a strong colour, you're probably not drinking enough.

Finally, there's one extra bonus. Water is an appetite suppressant and helps the body metabolise stored fat. So next time you feel that 4pm sugar craving coming on, don't reach for the chocolate bar head for the tap. 8 glasses a day

Here are some tips for getting into the healthy habit of drinking more water: Flavour chilled water with lemon juice or mint leaves. Serve water at the table with meals, and try attractive containers and glasses they may encourage the children to drink more. Carry a bottle of water with you wherever you go. Get a lap belt with a water carrier if you go running, walking or biking. Take a bottle of water for each person for journeys in the car. Kids love to have their own special bottle. Establish habits drink a glass of water before each meal, a glass on rising and another last thing before you go to bed. That's five glasses already!

Nikki May 9 years, 4 months ago

With the high schools having open campus, the vending machines are a non-issue. I mean, you can just go to Dillons or checkers and not travel far.

Parents, try to teach your children right. That's all there is to it.

killjoy 9 years, 4 months ago

That gum machine in the bathroom has lousy gum; it tastes like rubber!

YourItalianPrincess 9 years, 4 months ago

For some reason I believe this question has been asked before. Sell a variety of snacks in the machines. Let the kids have a choice of what they want. If they don't like whats in the machine they can bring something from home.

You can always hope that they will choose something healthy and some do, but taking them completely away is wrong.

Fox News just reported that in Kansas illegal aliens can get a price break on college while our kids have to pay full price. According to this woman ( Becky Hunchins ) is trying to change this law. Its a law here along with 8 other states to allow this. Now I think this should be the discussion for the day.

bmwjhawk 9 years, 4 months ago

Coke and Pepsi buy scoreboards for schools in exchange for putting their machines in the hallways. During 10 minute passing periods, some students buy pop, candy, candy, candy, and pop. They generally aren't allowed to eat in class. These machines are nothing but money generators for the schools and, more realistically, for the vending companies. The only things to suffer are the students' waistlines and their attention spans.

bankboy119 9 years, 4 months ago

Pop and candy should be allowed in school. There should be an alternative as well but there is no reason to take out the other food. It has been proven time and again that juice is actually worse on your teeth than pop if you do not brush your teeth after consuming it. The acidity is awful. We had to do a study for this and present it to the school board years ago when I was in school. Trying to force some one to eat healthy is ridiculous. It's their choice. If they would rather eat candy then let them, if they would rather have juice and water, let them.

IP, it was discussed last week.

Kookamooka 9 years, 4 months ago

If it means having funds to pay for counselors (see headline) then SURE! Kids need to learn how to make choices for themselves. A LITTLE pop and candy, in moderation, never hurt anyone. If they don't learn how to make healthy choices NOW then they won't be able to later.

benm024 9 years, 4 months ago

American kids are fatter today then ever. Why throw empty calories in their face every day. Put in one vending machine, fill it with diet soda, and call it a day.

beatrice 9 years, 4 months ago

School districts in other areas of the country have already come full circle, and are now removing the machines because kids are eating way too much candy and drinking too much soda and getting way too fat! Children have problems with decision making -- that is why there is a different set of punishments for juveniles when laws are broken. Yes, some kids will still get candy into the schools, but why should the schools act as if they support junkfood. We must stop the excelleration to being an obese nation, and you can start with one candybar at a time.

Now, I want to give bankboy a reason to root for the Seahawks for Super Bowl "Extra Large" -- Go Steelers!!!!!

mefirst 9 years, 4 months ago

Part of what's wrong with this country LAURA, is that corporations are not held responsible. They enjoy unspeakable profit, but have no obligation to the public. There are other things to consider aside from profit.

badger 9 years, 4 months ago

Merrill said:

"Finally, there's one extra bonus. Water is an appetite suppressant and helps the body metabolise stored fat. So next time you feel that 4pm sugar craving coming on, don't reach for the chocolate bar head for the tap."

Most of what you said was spot on, but this is urban myth. The only way water is an appetite suppressant is if you drink enough to fill your stomach, and the reason it's been associated with fat burning is because people switch to water instead of things with calories, and so they take in fewer calories than they burn.

Gaynproud, when they say '8 glasses of water' they mean 8 8oz glasses, which is about four regular 'water glasses' or four to six bottles of water. That's where the confusion comes in. You're supposed to take in 64 oz a day, not 128. 128 is excessive. I agree.

I don't think they should have heavily sugared snacks available to kids during the school day. You say, "Teach your kids right," but I don't know a kid that won't blow his lunch money on candy bars and cookies a couple of times a week given the option - and this applies to the kids with great parents who are active and involved and participatory. If parents want their kids to have that stuff, it's a lot easier and cheaper for them to buy it and send it to school with their kids.

If you're not going to fund schools enough or empower teachers enough that they have the capabilities to handle and discipline 25 12-year-olds hopped up on refined sugar, then keep the machines out of schools. Right now, the kids go over class breaks, guzzle a soda and eat some candy, and then they're wired and inattentive in class. The teachers, who already have their hands full, then have to cope with a bunch of jazzed, hyper kids. Then, the same parents who insisted that their children are responsible enough to make healthy eating choices get all hacked off because it must be the teacher's fault their little darling is failing English and in detention twice a week.

I'm all for letting students make increasing degrees of decisions, but since schools seem to have stopped teaching things like nutrition, the merits of exercise, and healthy eating, it's irresponsible to say, "Hey, let the parents deal with kids' obesity, it's not our problem, we have the chance to score some money for new football uniforms!"

And, sports drinks? Talk about nutritionally empty food!

samsnewplace 9 years, 4 months ago

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trinity 9 years, 4 months ago

i dunno, what difference would removing the machines make when junior/juniorette goes home and plants him/her self in front of a computer or gaming system every damn day instead of being outdoors, playing, running, riding bikes, skating, etc? not to mention parents who keep a stash of junk in the house, anyway. AND the totaly sickening fact that alot of schools have done away with recess entirely, thereby denying kids the ability to get outside&run off some steam! sure, in high school recess is a moot point...i'm just plain mad at the way things are, today.

oh and while we're on pet peeves (heh), wanna know what else peeoosses me off bad? in grade schools around my area, birthday kids cannot bring homemade treats to pass out to their classmates! has to be store bought, hermetically sealed, etc...i know i know there's weirdos out there who may think it amusing to taint goodies to the kids-but dayum!!!

i still want to live in mayberry.

rhd99 9 years, 4 months ago

Why should the vending machine companies be penalized for selling candy & soda to students? They are a legit business, aren't they? Oh, I know, BOOG was on a campaign for a nationwide BAN on these products in addition to that which he supported banning here in Lawrence. If the parents can't make a conscious effort to monitor kids' weight problems, well, then, it's no one's fault but the parents.

tell_it_like_it_is 9 years, 4 months ago

I resent the fact that the health food nazis are trying to run what my kids can eat.

sunflower_sue 9 years, 4 months ago

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO! I am disturbed when I go into my children's classrooms and see that MOST of the kids are overweight. They have been taught to exercize, they have been taught to make healthy food choices. In reality, they learn from example and practice. Many kids go home to empty houses with TV and X-boxes for entertainment. Open the fridge and look in. What's there? More pop and "convenient" snacks. Lots easier to open a bag of chips than to wash an apple. My 6th grader tells me of her friends that talk of starving themselves to loose weight (and they are overweight). Then I take the opportunity to discuss it with my daughter. Very disturbing stuff! The schools don't need to make it harder for the kids by tempting them with nutritionally void crap!!! And I agree with what others have said...juice is crap. Want juice? Eat an orange!

Oh yeah, OTS hit a pet peeve with s_s!

bearded_gnome 9 years, 4 months ago

holy doughnut batman... the question in today's OTS, asks "corporations," if not corporations, then who would operate the vending machines? is the use of "corporations" meant to have some evil negative conotation?

Wonderbread offers whole wheat...OMG! there's a contradiction!


pants optional on lawrence roundabouts today?


lookout for the bodysnatchers' pods, they're under each roundabout!


have a good day, though Jennyweatherbabe calls this "dreary."

rhd99 9 years, 4 months ago

Gnome, you just hit on something on the head. "Wonderbread offers whole wheat...OMG! there's a contradiction!" No wonder Interstate Bakeries Corp. in Kansas City is going bankrupt. They are NOT selling the kind of bread that would be good for kids as they advertise daily. Curiously, are Twinkies still in vending machines these days?

Aiko 9 years, 4 months ago

Yes, they should. It is nice to have options for those who can "control" their eating habits. That is why kids today are so obese is because they have no control on how much they eat. Stop plate licking!

Redneckgal 9 years, 4 months ago

When my kids don't like what is on the school menu I'm glad that they have the option of grabbing a bit to eat out of the vending machine to hold them over until supper. Why penalize everyone because some people don't have any self control?

bearded_gnome 9 years, 4 months ago

deep fry that twinky!

makes it more healthy!

bearded_gnome 9 years, 4 months ago

"builds kids' healthy bodies twelve ways," wasn't that the slogan?
[apply that to deep fried twinky!]


say its no pants day, but your job, is rodeo cowboy...hmmm...severe bruising visible... more fun if you're the rodeo clown.

bearded_gnome 9 years, 4 months ago

"hitched up my pants, ... and conquered France ... ... because its Springtime for Hitler, and Germany" insert dancing... from "the producers...sorry, just couldn't resist. "

beatrice 9 years, 4 months ago

Is it any wonder that this push to allow junk-food corporations into schools is happening under the watch of the "No Child Left Behind" group? They won't be happy until "No Child's Behind is Left Un-supersized."

bearded: The reason the question is about corporations is because it is, indeed, corporations like "Coca-Cola" and "Pepsi" that pay large sums to school districts to gain exclusive access to our little Tylers and Jennifers. The corporations know -- much like cigarette companies knew for many years -- that if you get the kids hooked on the junk while they are young, there is a strong likelyhood that they will stay loyal to the same brands of junks as adults. That is why the largest toy distributor in the world is McDonalds. So why make it so easy for the kids that we put candy in their faces all day long? If they truly need their sugar fix in the middle of the day, then plan ahead.

As far as the phrase "food nazis" goes -- if we were talking about "food" then I might agree. We aren't. We are talking about candy. I would actually like to see the food nazis (are there uniforms?) do something about the school lunches, and stop the decline in nutritional value in lunches that has been happening for years. (Wasn't it in the 1980s that catsup was recognized as a vegetable?)

I use to laugh when I went to Jayhawk games at the way people now get crammed into the bleachers. If the fieldhouse is full, everyone can't actually sit comfortably side by side anymore. Those numbers on the benches might have corresponded to the sizes of people's butts back in the 1950s, but they sure don't now. It is only going to get worse.

lunacydetector 9 years, 4 months ago

internal industry studies show that if children drink more soda and eat more candy during the day while in school, they are more likely to drink soda and eat candy during the day after they graduate from school as well. creating "junk food junkies" has more than doubled the sales of soda and candy since sodas and candy started being sold in schools in a convenient-for-the-customer manner.

of course these immature children have free will to be allowed this indocrination. the school boards have allowed it to happen because of the free will of liking lots of money. after all, it's all about the children

the diabetes medical industry applauds the school boards from sea to shining sea. their sales are expected to triple within the next 20 years.

believable?

mztrendy 9 years, 4 months ago

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beatrice 9 years, 4 months ago

Lunacy -- well said.

Prospector -- yes on the Supersize Me movie. Caught part of it again just recently. Love it. Did you see the "Triplets of Belville"? Great animated film where the Statue of Liberty has been turned into an overweight figure holding up a hamburger, much like Bob's Big Boy.

For the butt study, all it would take is to slap a yard stick across people's bums as they pass through the doors. Record the widths, divide by the number of people in the stands, and compare to the space available. Trust me, there isn't enough space for the widths.

As far as Seahawk tasting like chicken, I'm hoping that the birds of Seattle gets scorched so badly they lose all flavor.

badger 9 years, 4 months ago

You know, I think they should take out the soda machines and put in coffee and cappucino machines.

You're going to have them wired, cranky, and addicted, at least prepare them for the exciting life of the barista.

beatrice 9 years, 4 months ago

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stbaker 9 years, 4 months ago

I went to a small 2A school, and our soda/pop machines were off limits during school hours. You were only able to purchase these items before the am bell and after dismissal, except for "pop breaks" which were offered once every 9 weeks for the students with perfect attendance. I think if we should encourage these beverages to be considered a "special treat," similar to the idea behind birthday cake and desserts. They're okay sometimes, but not daily. However, I know not everyone thinks like that.

badger 9 years, 4 months ago

blink

I always miss what e_m says...

Hong_Kong_Phooey 9 years, 4 months ago

I think it is sad and pathetic how we have allowed big corporations to do whatever they want in the name of the almighty dollar. When I was in high school (and it wasn't THAT long ago) we were not allowed to bring drinks or food into the classroom. It was a distraction AND it could create some big messes. Now, Coke gives the schools a couple of bucks and everything changes.

I'm glad that the Lawrence school district has made some changes to their policies. The inclusion of fruit juice is a good idea, but how much of those drinks are actually fruit juice? Usually the juices sold out of vending machines include about 10% fruit juice and the rest is sugar water. In addition, the serving size for juice is fairly small (as is soda) and there are almost 3 servings per 20 oz. bottle of juice. The same can be said of a 20 oz. bottle of soda.

Powerade and Gatorade are not much better. Yes, they can help replace electrolytes that are lost during heavy exercise. Most athletes don't come anywhere near the level of intensity, and duration, that would require the use of a drink like that.

If the school district feels that they must include vending machines in the schools, they should sell water. Lord knows that we've got enough little fatties walking

badger 9 years, 4 months ago

Dear prospector:

Is a 'conclussion' what happens when the answer hits you right upside the head?

Regards, Badger

samsnewplace 9 years, 4 months ago

For the 2nd time today..........Y E S ! Now leave my posts alone and grow up out there.

76_IH_Scout_Dad 9 years, 4 months ago

True story, I was a student at South Jr. High, around 1990-91. I was given several days of "Lunch Room Detention" because my Mom packed a Soda in my lunch. The rule I broke, and was thus given detention for, was that no student may bring a soda from home, they must purchase a soda from the machine in the cafeteria is so desired. I told my mom what happened, she made a few calls and the policy was changed.

glockenspiel 9 years, 4 months ago

As an experiment, get a hold of a baby bobcat, raccoon, whatever, keep it in a cage. Regulate its diet. Make sure it gets exercise. Wait until it is fully grown. Put a tracking collar on it and turn it loose in the wild, far away from people.

See how long that sucker survives...

beatrice 9 years, 4 months ago

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Linda Endicott 9 years, 4 months ago

Gee, when I went to school there wasn't any discussion at all about what should be in the vending machines...oh, wait...we didn't have any...

Why do we need vending machines in schools at all? When I was in school, if you wanted pop or candy or Twinkies or something, you brought it with you, did without it, or got it after school. Why should things be different now?

And why do kids have breaks during school time, except for lunch? Why is this necessary?

We got a break for lunch, and five minutes between classes...can't the modern child endure that?

sunflower_sue 9 years, 4 months ago

Redneckgal, you touched on another peeve of mine. If my kids don't like the food they are served, I give them an option also. Eat it...or don't eat it. I'm not a short order chef and I'm not running out to Mickey Dee's to fetch you a hamburger. Guess what? They eat most everything I put in front of them. I don't even give them the option of "brown bagging" it to school. I know too many kids that come to my house and won't eat something because it didn't come out of a package. My daughter's friend was here and requested waffles for breakfast. Just so happens that I'm no slouch in the kitchen...but she wouldn't eat them because they weren't Eggo's. It's as if I had offered her up ALPO. Another refused to eat my macaroni and cheese because it wasn't orange. Kids these days have HORRIBLE eating habbits encouraged by their parents because it's all too easy to cave in and say, "Fine, eat the Snickers bar and wash it down with a Coke...if you'll just stop whining."

On tonights menu: Pork steak with cornbread stuffing and a side of broccoli. All made in the crockpot because I don't have time to cook in the evenings, either. And, yes, they will eat it. Oh, and they also have to drink a glass of milk...that's the law at my house.

sunflower_sue 9 years, 4 months ago

Jeramiah was a bullfrog...sorry blue, I love that song. Of course, it wasn't blasted at me daily for and entire hour during my formative years. :O)

TOB, you are right! Those ungrateful wee bastages get nothing but peanut butter from now on at my house. No sense wasting good food on them! Oh wait, I don't have white bread. Guess they starve!

wonderhorse 9 years, 4 months ago

For another "back in the day" story....

At my high school, we didn't have vending machines, either. That's because the student council ran a snack bar selling pop, candy bars, popcorn, etc., and they didn't want the competition. We couldn't take any of that stuff into class, though. This was a whole lot of years ago, however.

badger 9 years, 4 months ago

s_s, you and most of the mothers in my family are cut from the same cloth.

Mom had a little leeway, though, in that she recognized that so long as we weren't picky eaters, we were allowed to have likes and dislikes. I hated liver passionately, and so was allowed to eat two bites of my liver and then have a hot dog or leftovers from the night before, just as long as I tried everything on my plate.

Still hate liver, still hate brussels sprouts. However, I like just about every other kind of food, and every meal contains protein in some form, some kind of complex starch, and something that came from a plant. I am, though, pretty much unable to resist the lure of the vending machines at work about once a day. They're insidious.

My sister's kids have the 'two-bite' rule, and they eat pretty much whatever you make for them. Friends with kids indulge the 'yuks' with special treatment, and their kids subsist on microwaved chicken nuggets and orange mac & cheese, with fruit cups in syrup or 'juice drinks' for their fruits & veggies.

On the subject of juice, there are some juices that are worth drinking. Low sodium tomato-based V-8 has a decent amount of vitamins, some dietary fiber, and little to no added sugar (dependent upon variety). 100% juices (Ocean Spray does a pure juice cranberry line, and I think Tropicana has pure orange and pure grapefruit juice options, and I think POM does some fine pomegranate blends) with no added sugar are good, and the 'homestyle' citrus ones can add a small amount of dietary fiber to your day. There's still the acidity worry, but if you drink plenty of water as well, it is less of a problem.

Redneckgal 9 years, 4 months ago

sunflower_sue..I wasn't talking about them avoiding home cooking...I myself am no slouch in the kitchen either and they will eat almost anything as long as its homemade..maybe thats why they often don't like the slop that passes as food at school..they know what it is to eat good food. Mind you I don't like them passing up school food and eating out of the machine often. But I can understand it once in a great while. I've seen some of the wallpaper paste potatoes and things that pass for food there. If my kids ever refused to eat something at one of their friends homes and I found out they would be in some big trouble.

YourItalianPrincess 9 years, 4 months ago

Its to weird to see a " Y " when people reply to what I have posted. I'm the same Italian Princess as before, maybe I shouldn't have changed my name. It looks to strange to see: " YIP " but oh well...........LOL

benm024 9 years, 4 months ago

Sunflower Sue - Your spot on, that's how it should be. I'm so tired of adults that act like little babies in that they are so picky when it comes to what they eat. Learn how to appreciate more then just hamburgers and fries. Had their parents taught them these values growing up, they would not be so annoying today.

Oh and to the question "Why should the vending machine companies be penalized for selling candy & soda to students? They are a legit business, aren't they?" Well so is porn, but I don't want my kid buying the latest edition of penthouse before heading to his next class either. Being a legit business has zero to do with their place in our schools.

beatrice 9 years, 4 months ago

YIP, I totally thought someone else had latched onto your handle. I'm glad to know it is you, and not some other "princess."

YourItalianPrincess 9 years, 4 months ago

Computor freaked out and I lost all my log in names and passwords. Not of course saving them..........LOL I had to coem up with a new one but wanted to keep the Italian Princess part.

I could have used ItalianMafiaPrincess I guess, now that sounds more like my ancestors.

badger 9 years, 4 months ago

You had Arithmetic?

We didn't get Arithmetic until my senior year. Until then we had to resolve all mathematical disputes by beating one another to unconsciousness with rocks. I remember the time Stuffy McWuffles and Mitzi Kippelman were trying to invent fire, and Mitzi gave Stuffy a conclussion over whether or not he'd forgotten to carry the '1' in one of his formulae.

Of course, 'History' was only ten minutes long, and mostly composed of the Hundred Years War (which we called the 'Three Years War') and some creative writing for the teacher. Man, Mr. Rosetta was tough!

glockenspiel 9 years, 4 months ago

When I was in school, the snack machine became a big debate. Instead of letting a "corporation" come in, the school actually bought a vending machine and student council stocked it, made money, and used it as a source of funds for student council activities.

It was monitored (not turned off) during the lunch hour (it was in the school cafeteria).

Ceallach 9 years, 4 months ago

No.

All y'all are a true hoot!! Thus far 81 posts, about school vending machines :)

Ceallach 9 years, 4 months ago

From the looks of the deleted comments we need to have another Wheatfield's sit-in and get e_m back on track :)

Ceallach 9 years, 4 months ago

omb: I'll shake her tree and tell her that she can't just leave us hanging after we've come to depend on her words of wisdom!!

This is a really busy time for her but hopefully she will work us into her schedule :) As she has told us, she is retired, therefore her work is never done -- no 5:00 quitting time

Ceallach 9 years, 4 months ago

Is anyone out there going to hear the lecture on Intelligent Design? I was going to go but once I go home -- my sweats tormented until I put them on -- then I started a batch of turkey chili -- I'll have to hear about it second hand :) Once I don the sweats I am free to just be Ceal again and there's no going back!!

yourworstnightmare 9 years, 4 months ago

Ceal: I suggest reading the Wikipedia entry on Dumbski, eh, Dembski. Very enlightening.

Ceallach 9 years, 4 months ago

ywn: I will check that, thanks.

btw, I don't have nightmares -- I may have caused a few, but I don't have them :)

nefball1031 9 years, 4 months ago

i go to lhs, and we have five vending machines. One gatorade, one powerade, one pepsi, one coke, and one snack.

It's stocked and operated by the marketing classes, who have class during the lunch period, and run the lions den(our school "store."

here's the thing. if they take out the vending machines, we can still buy all the same stuff in the lions den, so it really wouldn't matter.

Also, every vending machine can be no more than 50% full of unhealthy things. I've noticed this a big difference between last year and this year. Last where there was a whole row or so of coke, and now it's down to half a row. Now there's alot of waters, lemonades, and juices offered in there. They were offered before also, but now there's just more.

Ceallach 9 years, 4 months ago

Thanks for posting nefball1031. It is good to hear from someone who actually knows about the vending machines and shares their perspective with those of us who do not.

popabob1954 9 years, 4 months ago

I cannot believe this is even an issue. The state and government have already given these young ladies legal permission to murder their babies without their parents knowledge. Now someone educated beyond their intelligence wants to stop kids from eating chocolate and drinking coke in school because it's not healthy. Our politicians and school administrators need to stop snorting the coke and try drinking a few, they have been educated beyond their commonsense, the more educated our society gets the sicker we become.

sunflower_sue 9 years, 4 months ago

Redneckgal, I didn't mean to pick on you or your kids, it's just like I said earlier...those machines and picky eaters are a big pet peeve of mine. l actually have a friend (who is a medical doctor) that feeds her toddler the same meal EVERY DAY!!!!! It's all about convenience. I also agree with you about school food. Some of that stuff is just nasty, but I still don't give my kids the option of a p,b,&j...makes them appreciate my cooking more.:O)

This is how big of a peeve food "issues" are with me: I can understand not liking a certain food. I, myself, do not like goolash (I'll eat it, I just don't care for it). Also don't care for brussel sprouts unless they are smothered in cheese and onions and cooked in wine (thus no longer tasting like a brussel sprout). But, I digress...In high school I had a huge crush on this guy. He and I went to a burger joint and he ordered his burger with NOTHING on it. I thought he must have some obvious screw loose and so I never went out with him again.

Grundoon Luna 9 years, 4 months ago

popabob, please self implode. You'd like our country's children to eat and drink crap until they pop? Puh-lease, with the anti-abortion rhetoric. Do you pull that along in to every issue you debte?

We don't need the junk food pimps pushing thier brand of dope. BUT, School food sucks!!! Make the school food better and the kids may not be so attracted to the junk. Keep offering smarter choices in the vending machines and limit the junk, not totally eliminate it.

I'm happy to say my kids have learned to make smart choices even when offered crap - My big guy will eat salad vs burger just about any time, especially if it's got sunflower seeds, and my little guy will nearly always chose water as his drink no matter what he's offered. I present them with a balanced diet and really don't deny them what they want. They have no wieght issues other than they're skinny, unlike me, They eat more than I do but are far more active. I hope when they grow up they can have jobs that won't have them chained to a desk for 10 hours a day . . .

oldfashiongirl 9 years, 4 months ago

Hello wonderhorse,

I also have a "back in the old days" story from 1932. We certainly had no vending machines and everyone was in the same boat. We carried homemade biscuits with sausage or eggs in them and sometimes mom would slip a cooky in. We did not have milk to drink either, but I remember an old oak bucket with water in it and a metal dipper attached to it, from which the children drank their water. Even in 1945 when I graduated from a large city school, they still didn't have vending machines.

I would nearly starve to death when around 11:00AM the most wonderful smells would come from the school cafetaria-Baked apples, turnip greens, rolls and God only knows what else. I had to brown bag it.

My little daughter went to school in Rotterdam, Holland in 1959 and they didn't have them either.

I think it is utterly ridiculous that schools have allowed these machines.

e.m. How in the world could you have answered such an innocent question today to get yourself zapped? I enjoy your posts, so get on the stick, will you?

nefball1031 9 years, 4 months ago

some people are getting off the point, i haven't read the article they posted today, because half the stuff the journal would says about the high schools is a one point perspective. They say things, but me being there, i know the whole story, about what the students really think. People are thinking it's a lunch time issue. We are allowed to eat whenever we want, as long as the teacher is ok with it. half the teachers are fine with kids eating and drinking in there class. Every teacher allows kids to chew gum.

so making the school food better won't exactly solve the problem. and the majority of hte school gets a school lunch.

bearded_gnome 9 years, 4 months ago

hey '1031' welcome and I must compliment you on your powers of expression you're obviously doing well in high school. keep it up!

I wonder if having half the space in your vending machines has caused a halving in the sales?


gatorade is revolting in my book...

Linda Endicott 9 years, 4 months ago

TOB...I guess you had to walk three miles to school, in the snow, uphill both ways...

Yeah, me, too...those were the days, huh?

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