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What time of day do you most like to go downtown?

Asked at Massachusetts Street on February 13, 2006

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“Probably late afternoon. It’s nicer outside and there are more people around.”

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“In the daytime, when it’s sunny out. I usually take a walk downtown from about 11 a.m. to 1 p.m.”

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“I like shopping and eating out in the afternoon.”

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“I like being downtown in the mornings for people watching and just walking around.”

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Nikki May 12 years, 3 months ago

I like to be down town alot. It just depends on what I want to do. I'll go any time.

KsjKC 12 years, 3 months ago

I heard the Secret Service is changing Cheney's code-word to something like "DUCK" or maybe "TRIGGER"--

Back to the question--;) Downtown is great for early Spring and Summertime evening walking and people-watching...Is that a gun?

Richard Heckler 12 years, 3 months ago

Anytime is fine...thus far.

Rarely have we been downtown after 11 PM. Probaly because we've been raising children since 1983 which presents a variety of not boring activity.

neopolss 12 years, 3 months ago

I try to avoid downtown. The last time I was there, I became stuck to the sidewalk in front of one of the ice cream stores. Since no one was able to use a hose for fear of being ticketed, I ended up losing a good pair of shoes that day. If anyone managed to remove my shoes, please return them to me for a reward. I am easy to find. There is a pit bull chained to a post with balloons attached, on a street corner. From there, take a left at the first roundabout, completely circle around the second roundabout, and take a right where you see the graffitti tags. I will be in my car on the cell phone with a stack of fireworks and adult toys.

RonBurgandy 12 years, 3 months ago

Dinner time until 2am is pretty cool with me. I am more of an eating and drinking rather than a shopping kind of guy.

craigers 12 years, 3 months ago

Anytime the line at the Barber shop isn't very long.

badger 12 years, 3 months ago

In the summer, it's really nice to go down to the Farmer's Market about 7:30 or 8, get all your goodies, then go to Wheatfield's for bread and wander around Mass for a bit. In the winter, late afternoon is pretty nifty.

I also used to really like to go grab a cup of coffee at around 11pm, and walk around with friends for a couple of hours and talk.

In other news, Vice President Cheney released a statement today saying, "When I was just a baby, my mama told me 'Son/Always be a good boy, don't ever mess with guns'/But I shot a man in Reno/Just to watch him die..."

irnmadn88 12 years, 3 months ago

Midweek, On a snowy night, When barely a soul ventures out, So I can enjoy a beverage at my favorite establishment, And marvel at the absence of humanity.

If you have ever been to the Freestate Brewing Company on a busy Friday evening at 6:30pm, you know what I mean.

jonas 12 years, 3 months ago

Whenever the mood strikes me. 2AM, 12 noon. Whatever.

I think, though, that LJWorld has struck a new level of OTS question banality.

Of course, all that fades when you dig a little deeper and discover that our neo-psuedo liberal commission is proposing a ban on downtown, and Bush and company are slowly chiseling away at the ability to go out during the day, so no one ELSE will notice that Dick Cheney sleeps it through in a big box.

Hey, someone's knocking at my door. I wonder who it OH @#$@#$@#$@.

beatrice 12 years, 3 months ago

badger, the thing that bothers me about the Cheney shooting is that it happened Saturday, but the news of the accident wasn't released until Sunday. This delay of information seems like a Soviet Union move to me. Did he really think he could keep it a secret, or was he buying some time to try to figure out how Scooter could take the blame for this one too?

RonBurgandy 12 years, 3 months ago

You know what's weird, I woke up Saturday morning and it was like a blizzard outside. What the heck, is it winter or something?

The absolute best time I have ever had on mass street was when KU made the final four and the championship game in '03. Now that was crazy...

RonBurgandy 12 years, 3 months ago

That's more like it. I don't need any real winter weather happening right now.

HighScore 12 years, 3 months ago

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HighScore 12 years, 3 months ago

Are you serious? I just shared my greatest memory of Downtown Lawrence and it gets pulled.

djazz 12 years, 3 months ago

Beatrice - no, doesn't sound like a Soviet Union move. Sounds like a Ted Kennedy move!

RonBurgandy 12 years, 3 months ago

Wow, how long did that last?

HighScore: I think they want you to pay to post that. No free ads here!

Ceallach 12 years, 3 months ago

Seems I'm on badger's schedule except about half an hour to an hour later :)

During the winter I often go to Wheatfields on Saturday mornings with my granddaughter (at 8.5 years old she's very into getting a decaf latte) and equally into taking me shopping when the stores open :)

rhd99 12 years, 3 months ago

I hardly go to the downtown during the late night hours, I mostly go during the morning after 10am every other two weeks, at least.

beatrice 12 years, 3 months ago

djazz: "Sounds like a Ted Kennedy move!" Indeed it does!

To make sure downtown Lawrence is safe any time of day, the City Commission has declared that Dick Cheney must now stay at least 200 feet away from bars and restaurants at all times.

RonBurgandy 12 years, 3 months ago

"When you're alone and life is making you lonely You can always go - downtown When you've got worries, all the noise and the hurry Seems to help, I know - downtown Just listen to the music of the traffic in the city Linger on the sidewalk where the neon signs are pretty How can you lose?"

HighScore 12 years, 3 months ago

I will try this again. I am downtown all day every day. I love it. I live above the Phoenix Gallery, great views of Mass St. I feel like I am always in the middle of the action. It has been one of the most gratifying experiences of my life. Like RonBurgandy mentioned, the best moment was the 2003 Final Four. I was able to hang out in my apartment with all my friends and watch the melee on Mass from my living room and bedroom windows as students and Lawrence residents celebrated the routing of Marquette in the Semi-Finals. It has to be one of my greatest memories from my time here in Lawrence, but alas I need to move on and out and find a sublease for my place. Any takers? I can't imagine a better place to live while in Lawrence.

Linda Aikins 12 years, 3 months ago

Sunday mornings about 8:30 to 10:30. It's fun to watch the downtown wake up. I love walking from 6th to 11th and back.

Those were my "skinnier" days.

sunflower_sue 12 years, 3 months ago

For me, it's all about food. I love to go downtown during prime feeding hours. I do a little bit of shopping downtown, but not much.

Badger, did you know that the Farmer's Mkt. is moving the Saturday market to New Hampshire Street? It will be on the east side but very close to the parking garage so will have ample parking. Lot's of space for all the vendors, too. Tu, Th mkt. will still be at the old location.

killjoy 12 years, 3 months ago

Cheney's incident was a warm up, so that when Cindy Sheehan takes a hit, it will look like an....hold on someone's pounding on the door...No, stop, I was just kiddingggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg

RonBurgandy 12 years, 3 months ago

Favorite spots: Jefferson's, the Orient, Louise's Downtown, Red Lyon (although I am not supposed to mention them...), Buffalo Wild Wings.

trinity 12 years, 3 months ago

thanks ronburgandy, now i'm having a petula clark kind of day-which trust me is an improvement!!! :)

Ceallach 12 years, 3 months ago

Looks like this may end up being another "My favorite kind of ice cream is . . . . " day! Do you suppose this question is in itself is a form of crowd control? If so, that always backfires. You know what they say about idle minds

RonBurgandy 12 years, 3 months ago

Cookies and cream...oh you were joking...nevermind.

linux_chick 12 years, 3 months ago

All day, everyday. Downtown Lawrence rocks.

trinity 12 years, 3 months ago

bunny trax-or phish food.

i like ice cream. oh! my fave time to be downtown? mostly days, but any time i'm in the company of one of my beautiful kidlets is okie dokie with me.

and thank you ronburgandy, purveyor of sunshine! :)

Ceallach 12 years, 3 months ago

TOB: at least we haven't started picking on the poor souls who dared answer the question and pose for a photo . . . . at least not yet!

Confrontation 12 years, 3 months ago

I prefer to be downtown in the late evening, when all the crazy women with their strollers are long gone. Do this women really think I'd feel sorry for them if I don't move out of the way and they crash their little demon children into me? Really, I couldn't care less. I like dining in the late evening and enjoying the nightlife when only adults are around (and some childish college students).

Linda Aikins 12 years, 3 months ago

RonB, now I have that silly song in my head...and I was just getting awake and ready to be angry at the world. Gee thanks! ;)

The lights are much brighter there You can forget all your troubles Forget all your cares and go...

Hong_Kong_Phooey 12 years, 3 months ago

I would like to go downtown when the city commission has passed so many ordinances that nothing is open past 10:30pm, nobody from out of town is allowed, no one can carry anything in their pockets besides car keys and money, their are no homeless to step over because they too have been banned, and their are so many police on foot patrol that I feel like I'm on a cell block.

Maybe then, and only then, will I feel safe. :-S

linux_chick 12 years, 3 months ago

agreed, prospector:

Quail/78-year old man... they kind of look the same.


badger 12 years, 3 months ago


I didn't know that the market is moving. If I'm able to make it there the next time I'm in town (I'll be up Mem. Day weekend, but may not be at the market), I'll be very glad you told me that, so I don't stand in the parking lot looking sad and lost.

I don't know that there was anything nefarious in the timing of the news release. It happened Saturday evening and they had to get treatment for the gentleman and make sure he was going to be all right. I think CNN had it before noon on Sunday, and it was on the Austin American Statesman site by early afternoon.

The Statesman points out that Whittington had just brought down two quail in as many shots, and I have to ask myself if it wasn't some form of jealousy that led VP Cheney to lash out like that in retaliation for being out-shot? You know, like when feudal lords went a-hawking, someone of lower social rank than you wasn't supposed to hit his prey if you missed yours?

linux_chick 12 years, 3 months ago

I think it's good to consider ways of making Lawrence safer. The recent shooting is truly a tragedy.

Squelching the small segment of bar-nightlife Lawrence actually has downtown seems... strange.

Maybe we can come up with something better, you know... something that may actually work.

beatrice 12 years, 3 months ago

l_c: well, if they were turkey hunting, maybe. I can kind of see the resemblance.

Free State Brewery -- I sure miss Ad Astra beer and the fish and chips. I haven't found anything in Phoenix that comes close.

Liberty Hall is also missed, although there are plenty of quality theaters here.

linux_chick 12 years, 3 months ago

beatrice: my, my, we're feisty on this board today :)

Copperhead is my favorite beer, very nice Pale Ale... but I can never get into Free State to enjoy it.

There's a lot downtown, I think: Sylas & Maddys, Jeffersons, art galleries... Mass. St. is great.

badger 12 years, 3 months ago


For several weeks after I moved, I went into Free State Withdrawal. Luckily, in the Austin area there are positively scads of local breweries, and I've even found a replacement for my favorite, the John Brown Ale (though I haven't found a really good wheat beer here - something about not being as wheat-conscious as Kansas).

What really made the move palatable, though, is the Alamo Drafthouse (; I'm never going to a multiplex again. It's like Liberty Hall, but with more food and first-run movies.

sunflower_sue 12 years, 3 months ago

A perfect evening: Eating at Aladin Cafe, crossing the street to Sylas & Maddy's for some cream, then back across the street to the Zen park. The kiddies love it!

RonBurgandy 12 years, 3 months ago

That Petula Clark song always reminds me of that Seinfeld episode, where George thinks his boss is trying to tell him something through the song.

beatrice 12 years, 3 months ago

badger: "For a Few Dollars More" on the big screen, while enjoying a brew! Sweet. I wouldn't even think about messing with Texas on this one -- they did it right!

Here in Phoenix we still have a couple of drive-in theaters, which are fun and of course you can take your own beverages and food, but they are first-run films -- not the classics. Nothing to compete with the Alamo Drafthouse, though.

l_c: not fiesty, just having a little fun. For fiesty, check out yesterday's posts. Some grad student threatened bearded_gnome and was ugly to ombob, plus Marion denying that he is using a second log-on name to support his case. Poor guy hit rock bottom, bounced, and hit it again. Good times.

sunflower_sue 12 years, 3 months ago

Ceallach, good to see you back on board. Looks like I missed out on some good 'ol nastiness yesterday...I'll have to go back and scan through. I've got my little one home sick today (I guess I gave her my crud) so I'm playing nursemaid to a bored 9 yr old (while I still have MY crud so I'm trying to conserve energy). Maybe I can con her into a post lunch nap. (Yes, I just now got up the energy to open a can of soup.)

badger 12 years, 3 months ago

Perhaps omb is wracked with guilt over his bandwidth wastage?

I received no snarky e-mails. Apparently, I'm allowed out-of-town bandwidth. I did, however, get a nice note from a poster, so I'm glad that the discussion prompted me to check my e-mail.

You guys certainly were all atizzy yesterday. I can't leave you people alone for two days without Marion getting a split personality and grad students getting all up in your faces.

Linda Aikins 12 years, 3 months ago

Thanks Ron. I forgot to follow-up on Coach Sutton. That's really too bad, isn't it. I hope things work out for him as I've always considered him to be a pretty neat guy.

sunflower_sue 12 years, 3 months ago

OMB for president! Wait, sorry, can't have 2 in a row from Texas.

I went back and read yesterday's posts. Phycologically speaking, I'm having a field day coming up with all the reasons someone would feel it necessary to list their credentials? in their anon. name.
Thanks, s_s, b.s.a. (BS Artist)

linux_chick 12 years, 3 months ago

I'm disappointed in Sutton. I'm glad no one was killed. What an example to set.

linux_chick 12 years, 3 months ago

Hey, I just realized that I know Michaela through work. Woot, LC is famous. :)

Ceallach 12 years, 3 months ago

gradstudent needs more than a phd to pick on our bobs or gnomes!! Sounds like the gradstudent was over compensating ;) It is very sad when an anonymous person still feels so inadequate that they are driven to be mean. The grad students I know are very nice and too busy waste such energy.

linux_chick 12 years, 3 months ago

Some grad students are great... and some are very dumb.

Kathleen Christian 12 years, 3 months ago

I enjoy a sunny Saturday afternoon downtown - to window shop, visit and eat out. I especially enjoy a coffee sit-down & relax during the week when I'm not working. But downtown is changing - so many more people it is beginning to get too crowded. Finding a place to park is more of a problem then ever. I've notice more shops closing too. I just hope the city doesn't move in anymore chain stores (ie The Gap) and keeps downtown mom & Pop stores.

RonBurgandy 12 years, 3 months ago

Who knows if he/she is even a grad student. Maybe they made up that moniker to look more smart, he/she obviously has some self-esteem issues.

Hey, does Kansas City count as using out of town bandwidth? I think that omb could post a simple "hello everybody" and someone would get pissed off, type in all caps, and send him personal emails.

linux_chick 12 years, 3 months ago

(that was in response to ceallach, not to yesterday's forum, just to clarify)

Ceallach 12 years, 3 months ago

That also sums up just about every little subset of mankind does it not -- regardless of the group -- some are great, some are very dumb :P

RonBurgandy 12 years, 3 months ago

I think that gradstudent is John Shoemaker...

linux_chick 12 years, 3 months ago

I have no idea who gradstudent is...

Obvoiusly, the sentiment is off-base (as far as I'm concerned). This board is open to the public... and that's a good thing.

But, I do think gs handled his(her?) concern in the right way, regardless of my approval or disapproval of the content: The E-mail was private, non-threatening and polite. No one was publically embarrassed until omb decided to post it on the board for public crucifixion.

RonBurgandy 12 years, 3 months ago

Oh, and in the ever changing world of sports (I have to update) KU has now moved into the spot ahead of UNC is both polls...ah that feels good....

linux_chick 12 years, 3 months ago

No, Ceallach. Specifically graduate students. Some ... well, tragically were born without brain cells.

linux_chick 12 years, 3 months ago

Awesome. Thanks for the link ron. I checked this morning, the rankings weren't up yet. It's about time we were up there.

bankboy119 12 years, 3 months ago

Ron, Bucknell also entered the rankings. At least we didn't get beat by nobody.

RonBurgandy 12 years, 3 months ago

bankboy: I know, how many people knew of bucknell before last march, and now they are in the top 25? Beating KU has a lasting effect for one's basketball program I guess.

RonBurgandy 12 years, 3 months ago

Joe Lunardi's bracketology also has us (for now) in the same region as UNC again...we all know how well that went before...

Linda Aikins 12 years, 3 months ago

TOB - good ole' SW Kansas. I'm so glad you and I are great examples of that part of the state.

I didn't know he was from Bucklin, but he's quite a bit older than I.

Is there really a bandwidth issue? And I agree that the private email was best, but was that even necessary? I just don't think Captain Kangaroo had that in mind for us as adults.

Linda Aikins 12 years, 3 months ago

WOW - where is the Big XII presence in the top 25? Only three teams (TX, OK, KS) are there, with only one other getting votes (CO).

Nice job getting votes, Wichita State! What a shocker!

beatrice 12 years, 3 months ago

l_c: gradstudent's e-mail was hardly what I would consider polite. S/He suggested that ombob wasn't appreciate on the Lawrence board, actually referring to his contributions as "a waste of resources," and then questioned ombob's intelligence by stating in an unsolicited e-mail that he was one of the "mentally depraved" taking part here. That isn't polite.

If you have something to say to an anonymous someone around here, say it here on the board, where we can all add something or ignore it if we choose. People's opinions on your grievance might indicate who is likely correct in a given situation. While bankboy (my arch enemy) and I might argue on whether the sky is blue or not, at least he has the decency not to make it personal by sending ugly, private e-mails directly to me. We say it here -- and if it is too ugly, it likely will get removed by DavidR.

linux_chick 12 years, 3 months ago

Agreed, TOB. I think my frustration comes from when I used to work in support.

Generic support call: LC: OK, please click Start for me. Ms GradStudent: Where's that? LC: The lower left part of your screen. Ms GradStudent: OK. LC: OK, now click Run. Ms GradStudent: I don't see Start. LC: It's in the very bottom left of your screen. Ms GradStudent: OK, I see it. LC: OK, now click Run. Ms GradStudent: Run, run... there's no Run. LC: Did you click Start? Ms GradStudent: No.

OR, this one I remember from a full-fledged professor: LC: You're good to go. Mr PhD: What was wrong? LC: You have to make sure you actually plug the television set into an outlet before using it.

I'm not too sure about some of the faculty working at my beloved Alma Mater...

badger 12 years, 3 months ago

omb -


That's quite a load of carp, there.

linux_chick 12 years, 3 months ago

beatrice: I don't know. I don't think his E-mail was bad. Maybe that call is personal preference, but I wouldn't have been offended to receive it. For clarity's sake I'm posting the E-mail omb shared yesterday again below:

"Hi Bob. As a new member here on the website I have noticed a few persons like yourself who do not live in the area. Ever occur to you that you might be hoggin' the bandwidth? No blogs in your town? It appears these blogs are nothing more than gossip columns for the mentally depraved. What a waste of resources..just my 2 cents"

-taken from

OK, so I disagree with gs's concern. But, while I don't think there's anything wrong with sharing this, it's tough for me too sorry for omb receiving a complaint like this from a fellow poster in a private E-mail.

badger 12 years, 3 months ago

l_c: if you read a little further down, I think bearded_gnome says that the same poster sent him an email with a more threatening tone, which I find more disturbing than omb's message.

linux_chick 12 years, 3 months ago

Excuse the typo: It's tough for me to feel too sorry... oops.

(I blame the U of K for my lack of proof-reading skills and shotty education :P )

RonBurgandy 12 years, 3 months ago

What purpose does the email serve? None, there is no reason to send that to omb, malicious intent or not. Did omb even say he was offended? I know if I got some email from someone that just join this board, I would think it was pretty weird as well, especially when is says pretty much nothing constructive.

linux_chick 12 years, 3 months ago

badger: thanks.

I missed the post from bearded_gnome. Agreed. That sux.

linux_chick 12 years, 3 months ago

Ron: no doubt. The E-mail is totally bazaar. I don't think any reasonable person actually agrees with it.

Staci Dark Simpson 12 years, 3 months ago

OMB- Carp are scary. was that for real?

As for the ?, I am not afraid to go out anytime downtown. I might steer cleer of Last Call, but I still haven't outgrown the Bottleneck if someone good is playing. Lunch is good, shopping is good. I might be a crazy mama with a stroller but I haven't ran over anyone yet, except my husband. To me the homeless people are scary and the dude with the socks on hands. The best time ever downtown was when the Jayhawks won the championship in '88. School closed down and it was a really wild time. I was glad to escape Jr High to go to the parade. What an awesome memory!!

avhjmlk 12 years, 3 months ago

We should put linux_chick on a roundabout and throw noodles at her--she just referred to KU as the U of K, even after they spent all that money on a branding campaign!

linux_chick 12 years, 3 months ago

ugh. Don't get me started on the NINETY-THOUSAND DOLLARS we shipped off to Oregon for a new logo we'll probably get sued for.

avhjmlk 12 years, 3 months ago

Actually, in my unlicensed, uncertified legal opinion, we're probably safe. But still, put on your colander helmet and be prepared for a noodling...

linux_chick 12 years, 3 months ago

University of Kansas.

Kentucky should probably re-name their state starting with an unused letter... (and, no: I don't care that they came first.)

avhjmlk 12 years, 3 months ago

No particular obsession. Isn't that something people are threatened with in jest? Being beaten over the head with a wet noodle?

prospector, I was going to point out the shoddy spelling in chick's post, but I was too focused on rounding up my wet noodles.

linux_chick 12 years, 3 months ago

I'm a coder... and all programmers are bad at spelling.

Kind of like how it's un-american to be good at global-geography. It's a status thing ;)

linux_chick 12 years, 3 months ago

(Before someone's fingers get in a flurry: that was joke. LC apologizes... )

avhjmlk 12 years, 3 months ago

Well, then, I must be very American. Geography has always been my worst subject...

RonBurgandy 12 years, 3 months ago

Oh man, that means I am un-american? But I always liked it I have to move to France? Crap.

linux_chick 12 years, 3 months ago

yes, ron. The simple fact that you know the country exists means you can't stay here... ;)

Ceallach 12 years, 3 months ago

In Merika we don't need no stinking geography!!

Ceallach 12 years, 3 months ago

Where's gnome today? Hope he and Mrs. Gnome are okay -- they've had that crud that is going around. Sunflower_sue, hope you are improving, did you visit the gnomes??

beatrice 12 years, 3 months ago

omb, I agree. One should only be privately wierd with someone you know intimately.

. . _/

sunflower_sue 12 years, 3 months ago

Cea, nope, I caught this bug from my good 'ol sis. Now, I've given it to my youngest and my father-in-law. (He's currently at 102*) This is NASTY stuff! Everyone bathe in Purell tonight! Bring out the plastic and duct tape! Get a mask and gloves and try to pretend you're Michael Jackson...but leave the kiddies alone!!!

beatrice 12 years, 3 months ago

tob: Wow! Marion makes Howard Dean look like a Buddist monk by comparrison. The guy needs to take a very big chill pill.

I think I will miss gradstudent ... in the way one misses a scab after you pick it at it for a while before it eventually flakes off. (Great comeback, badger! I couldn't top it.)

Ceallach 12 years, 3 months ago

omb: I know what you mean about someone using your email contact to go all wierd. Funny, it seems less personal on the board, but when you open that email, they've popped into your personal space!!

There's more than enough bandwidth to go around That's a pretty lame excuse for lashing out. I agree with the fellow poster who posed the possibility that it was an old griper wrapped in a new name.

I say, let's all forget about him/her!!!!! They've taken way more space than should have been alloted to pettiness.

All y'all have a good night,


killjoy 12 years, 3 months ago

I think we have a new roast recipe for you b_gnome;

I think it's called a Marion roast. Tonight it was served up so raw that you could smell the blood.

What a masochist.

bearded_gnome 12 years, 3 months ago

it's late, going to sleep. I'm actually getting over this crud. Mrs. Gnome is still getting much worse.

no, Gradstudent//p.h.duh didn't follow through on his threat of physical violence.
'night all.

redneck 12 years, 3 months ago

The only reason I go down town is if I need to go to the Post Office or library. There isn't much downtown that intrests me.

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