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Do you think the Kansas City Royals will improve this year?

Asked at Massachusetts Street on April 4, 2006

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“I’m going to step out on a limb and say yes. I love the Royals, so I have to hope.”

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“I think they will improve slightly, but I’ll still watch.”

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“I hope so. I think mandatory steroids for the whole team might help.”

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“I hope so. I think it would be good for the franchise, and it would give us someone local to cheer for besides the Cardinals.”

Comments

happygolucky 8 years ago

Sorry Militant, I was only 3 in 77. My uncle snuck my into the one at Arrowhead, I only remember it being loud, he had a Bow, and Somewhere, I still have the shirt. Ted in huggies with his arms turning into guitars. Really messed with the kids at school. My bad about the K.

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easy_mark 8 years ago

Happygolucky...you've given me some of the best mental images tonight. This is great, thanks.

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militant 8 years ago

Happy,

Ted played Royals Stadium June 24, 1977; sorry you missed it.

They cancelled concerts there for almost 10 years afterward.

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happygolucky 8 years ago

Ted Nugent played ArrowHead, not the K. Wango Tango tour in 1980, and it was loud as hell. Noise complaints 7 miles away.

And if you have to give tickets away on pizza boxes, then you will always suck.

I want to play xbox on the Jumbotron, that would be sweet. GTA would scare the crap out of the neighbors

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militant 8 years ago

Sell the team. Baseball is Boring.

Baseball, Hockey, Soccer. They're all fun to play, but dreadfully boring to watch. They all have to feature gimmicks at the games to keep the fans interested.

Here's a better gimmick - Free Beer! (OK maybe free for the first three innings and then have free buses too)

Who wants to pay $20.00 to park $7.00 per beer $4.50 for the cheapest hotdog or burger after buying tickets.

Maybe Hooters girls to sell food/drinks.

Keep the stadium, bring back Ted Nugent!

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Multidisciplinary 8 years ago

Oh, this was a mistake...I'm too geeky. I knew I wasn't feeling well.

MSN geek test

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11977271?pg=22&score=51#anc_nwk_060323_geekpage

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nana 8 years ago

First of all, sgtwolverine, where in Ahmad's response did he say he rather watch them get worse? And the probability of them getting worse has already shown itself over time. Sure they may improve, SLIGHTLY!! There's no reason to hold your breath on them. Sure, I said it and there isn't no need to read anything more out of that. Maybe you should devote some time figuring out what a co-coordinator is, huh?

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beatrice 8 years ago

bankboy: of course the tickets are cheaper than the Chiefs -- a semi-pro team never charges as much as the real pros. : )

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The_Original_Bob 8 years ago

THe AZ Cardinals are the KC Royals. Crappy records. High draft picks that never produce. Insipid owners. Both even have a nack at signing mid-level veterans who are on the downside of their careers.

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RonBurgandy 8 years ago

I got to give bea the nod on this one, it can't get much worse than the Arizona Cardinals. But I think the Detriot Lions could probably give them a good battle.

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BunE 8 years ago

They need to get that cancer Sweeny off the payroll. That guy gets hurt walking. Once I saw him out and asked him if he was on the DL. He chested up on me!

Looks like we got ourselves a real first baseman now and we can bring ken harvey back at scale to DL.

Go Royals! Vote no!

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bankboy119 8 years ago

I want to move to Phoenix just to go to the Cardinals games. I looked at their prices compared to the Chiefs, amazing. I'm not a huge Cardinals fan but I could always root for whoever they are playing.

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beatrice 8 years ago

The Cardinals (Arizona, St. Louis, Chicago) have made the playoffs just 6 times since the NFL began holding playoff games -- in 1932! That isn't even once a decade! True to form, they have only been in the playoffs once since moving to Arizona in 1988. If they have any talent and team chemistry this coming year, I trust they will do something to muck it up by the following season.

They are the worst team in all of professional sports, without exception. To say they will be a "surprise" by finally being over .500 (whooppeee!), that indicates how terrible they are. I suspect they still won't make the playoffs, however. The Bidwell family profits anyway. Terrible. No wonder why I have always been a Steelers fan.

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neopolss 8 years ago

The Arizona Cardinals might be a surprise team this year. The talent they have been aquiring is young, but with such good draft picks each year, they are starting to come together. Last year was a decent year for them, and many games were at least close for once. I expect to see a good over .500 season this year.

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beatrice 8 years ago

TOB: close, very close on the description of Phoenix. Except bars are now opened until 2:00. (Dave Attell made us look bad I guess, so they bumped the time back an hour.) We did get rain recently -- after 142 dry days. Also, "It's hot as well" you say. I suggest replacing the "w" with an "h" to better describe the summers here. Record high - 123 degrees, back in 1990 I believe. It was so hot that airplanes couldn't take off. Really. You might be able to cook an egg on the sidewalk, but no matter what you never have to shovel sun!

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sgtwolverine 8 years ago

Owners are a little bit of a mystery. We've had an interesting contrast up here.

Mike Illitch, owner of Little Caesar's Pizza, owns both the Tigers and the Red Wings. When he bought the Wings, they were among the worst franchises in the NHL; now, they are one of the top franchises. He really did a fine job turning it around and making it into a consistent winner.

On the other hand, the Tigers haven't even had a winning season in a while. They hit rock bottom a couple years ago with their 119-loss season. They're looking a bit better now, but they still seem to be chasing a .500 season more than anything.

It has been interesting to see how he can be praised as a great owner in one sport and criticized as a terrible owner in another.

On the other hand, for a fine contrast, we have another owner with a remarkable history. Bill Davidson owns both the Detroit Pistons and the Tampa Bay Lightning. Two years ago, the Pistons and the Lightning won championships in the same year. That is really a remarkable accomplishment. And I don't know about the Lightning this year, but the Pistons are favored for another one.

I really don't know what he's done so right. Or what Illitch has done right in hockey and (so far) not so right in baseball. It's just odd.

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spipp33 8 years ago

What once was a proud organization is now a complete joke.

Havent made the playoffs in what, 20 years?

Mr. Wal-Mart has done nothing to improve the team. They've actually , somehow, gotten even worse.

David Glass you are a cheap loser.

cheers!

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The_Original_Bob 8 years ago

It never rains in Phoenix. Except when it does which is rare. And then there is mass flooding. It's hot as well. Grass lawns are a sign of wealth. Bars close at 1:00 am. Apparenlty, there are a lot of movie theaters there.

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RonBurgandy 8 years ago

My bad Bea, I know nothing about Phoenix except for the one time Dave Attell went there for an episode of Insomniac.

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beatrice 8 years ago

RonB: Diamondbacks -- a small market? Phoenix is now the fifth or sixth largest city in the country (passing Philadelphia either recently or soon), and when you count the surrounding area we have a population of more than 3.5 million. That is why we are able to support professional baseball, basketball (Suns), hockey (Coyotes), and semi-pro football (Cardinals -- I'll never forgive St. Louis for that one!).

But the size of the market isn't why the Diamondbacks won the championship a couple years back -- they won because of the swimming pool in the stands in center field! Drinking a margarita while taking a dip, and trying to avoid home run balls -- Now that is baseball! It made all the purists go crazy. Loved it!

My question is if the Royals could possibly get worse?

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rightthinker 8 years ago

The Royals actually may end up smelling like a rose on the stadium deal. They only kick in $25 mil vs. Chiefs $75 mil. Had the Royals been a hot team, possibly even w/ a recent WS, they probably woulda gotten hit for more. So they otta see it as a "loser discount" should it apply.

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one_more_bob 8 years ago

A few years ago, a friend left her car parked on the Plaza with two Royals tickets on her dashboard. When she came back, her window was broken & there were four tickets on the dash.

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Jon_Stewart 8 years ago

Yes, I think they'll impove drastically, possibly win the series.

I also think that I'll be president.

OF THE WORLD.

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sunflower_sue 8 years ago

I will be out supporting my Kansas City T-Bones. Games are cheap, tons of fun, and the players are approachable. (The way the Royals used to be a thousand years ago when I was a kid.)

As far as moving the Chiefs...they are sold out at every home game. They are a money making machine. They will not mess that up.

Royals: I don't care and only go when I get free tickets.

MD, poetry??? Me no talk pretty! But, thanks for the invite. (But I never say never.) I do know a good joke about two poets. Maybe I'll send it to you.

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sgtwolverine 8 years ago

Gootsie, that would probably happen if he were in the minor leagues.

Oh, wait, he is on the Royals...

No, don't stone me. Remember, the Tigers are miserable, too.

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Marion Lynn 8 years ago

Beseball be berry, berry good to some people.

Thanks.

Marion.

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Gootsie 8 years ago

Does that mean we will have an official Royals "Tickle me Elmer" doll?

e_m, now I'm really confused. I have no idea what you are meaning.

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The_Original_Bob 8 years ago

"I think the real Royals' offensive future is down here in my neck of the woods with Alex Gordon, Billy Butler, Mitch Maier, and co. The Royals pitching prospects look pretty slim, though." WR

A lot of the Royal's potential offensive past went throught Wichita, made a pit-stop in KC, and then on elsewhere.

I'm just tickled we have a player named Elmer on the team.

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sgtwolverine 8 years ago

bankboy, I do that with the Lions. Talk about a futile franchise! Two playoff appearances in 50 years? Ouch.

Of course, in August, many Lions fans sound like wichita_reader. I've sounded like that myself, too. And one of these years, it might actually be true.

True: the w/l record of the winningest coach in Lions' history is actually below .500. That's sick.

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wichita_reader 8 years ago

Ever the optimist, I think the Royals will improve this year. They got better on paper in every facet of the game with their offseason acquisitions, offensively, defensively, starting pitching, and the bullpen. We'll see if that equates to more than 56 victories, but I think it will.

It was good to see Elarton and Dessens get a strong start.

I think the real Royals' offensive future is down here in my neck of the woods with Alex Gordon, Billy Butler, Mitch Maier, and co. The Royals pitching prospects look pretty slim, though.

For anyone interested in reading one author's take on how a small market team, the Oakland A's, have built a perennial winner, check out Michael Lewis' Moneyball: the Art of Winning an Unfair Game.

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bankboy119 8 years ago

wolverine, that makes sense about the Tigers. I do the same thing with the Chiefs every year. Once they get past the beginning couple of games and start losing them all, they should just lose out to get a higher draft pick.

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sgtwolverine 8 years ago

As an observer of the Tigers, let me assure you: they can definitely do worse. All of southeastern Michigan followed the Tigers' 119-loss season a couple years ago, for different reasons. You wouldn't believe the relief from some people when they won their last couple games to avoid tying or eclipsing the record (120). And they had to win the last couple games, too, or they were staring 121 in the face. You also wouldn't believe the disappointment from some people when they didn't break the record. They said hey, if you're going to lose that many, then just go all out.

In any case, it sure induced a lot of people to follow the last month or so of the season.

I fully agree that money itself is not the determining factor of success. The Yankees do not win every year. Assembling a good team is preferable to assembling a group of stars. It's also harder.

But I do still think baseball would benefit from a salary cap. It hasn't yet killed the other sports.

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Marion Lynn 8 years ago

If the voters in Missouri reject the tax, the Royals and Chiefs will move to Kansas City, Kansas with a new stadium to be located at or near 118th and State Avenue.

At that point I will become concerned about whatever the two teams may do.

Thanks.

Marion.

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easy_mark 8 years ago

gootsie..off topic, but to help your confusion some. paragraph 4, almost on the mark, but wrong on some "things". And their info isn't right about everyone. http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2006/apr/04/teen_wonders_how_help_friend_whos_cutting_herself/?living

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lunacydetector 8 years ago

(With front teeth removed) they need a new owner like ewing kauffman, not some penny pinching owner from the wal-mart's.

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Multidisciplinary 8 years ago

Maybe Amanda had read the OTS question yesterday and has a very quick OTS mind. :D She knew she had different sensors.

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badger 8 years ago

You know, I think they kind of have to improve.

I'm sure they could get worse, but the kind of effort they'd have to put forth to do worse than they have been would be heroic in its own right, and demonstrate that they can at least, if they set out to do badly, achieve a goal of some sort.

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RonBurgandy 8 years ago

I meant to say look at the Twins, A's, Marlins, and Diamondbacks to see that teams can win in small markets.

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RonBurgandy 8 years ago

While money is a problem in baseball, it is not the biggest reason why the Royals are always losing. All one has to do is look at the Twins, A's, Marlins, and Diamondbacks to see that teams can win with low payrolls. The problem is that the team is not acquiring the right mix of talent to play. Small market teams may not be able to keep all the big name players, but several good players can create a better team than trying to keep that one special player. We got a pretty good trade for Beltran, Teahan and Buck just have to step it up this year. Beltran didn't have a great year at NY either.

The Royals will improve this year, it would be hard for them not to, although it won't be to the point of a winning record or a postseason. Sweeney will have some pressure lifted from his shoulders with Reggie Sanders on the team now. I really think that I have to point the blame on Allard Baird so far, we'll see how the Royals do this year.

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Fatty_McButterpants 8 years ago

Not if they have to play baseball.

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The_Original_Bob 8 years ago

Worse would mean, what... losing more than 106 games? It's baseball. You have to try to lose that many. So, I'll say they'll be better but still really, really, really bad.

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neopolss 8 years ago

Baseball needs a bit of a tune-up. As long as the Yankees hold clout over the league though, it's not going to happen. Two major things would help. Shorten the season so that baseball doesn't take half a year to do. This brings in casual fans who can stay along the whole season, as well as football fans who drop off once the NFL season starts. Let's be honest. There's a lot of other sports now, and they don't start and stop within pace of each other for no reason. The second plan - salary cap. Again, it won't happen with the Yankees pulling strings, but this move would create far more competition, and reduce the ridiculous salaries that teams pay for players. It would also keep certain teams from looking like the all-star game playing the Detroit Tigers. There's my few cents.

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Gootsie 8 years ago

Haha Amanda! Good one!

How do you think the vote will go today on the stadium issue?

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sgtwolverine 8 years ago

Oh, and by the way, they started the season by losing (at home) to the Tigers. Really, that's probably not a good sign.

Here's an extension question: would baseball be more interesting if they didn't play 160+ games a year?

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bankboy119 8 years ago

No they won't, they have no money so the good players will not stay.

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sgtwolverine 8 years ago

This is a good crop. First, Ahmad's answer makes it sound like he would rather watch them get worse. And second, I've never heard of a co-coordinator. What's next? a co-co-coordinator?

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jonas 8 years ago

Huh. Well Blueharley, looks like minds think alike. Though I think if we're going to give Amanda's idea any credence we should go straight for baseball androids, and skip humans and their growth hormones completely.

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jonas 8 years ago

As long as the money system continues the way it does, the Royals will continue to be, unfortunately, a hopeless case. All we are is a glorified farm team for the bigger organizations like the Red Sox (Damon) and the Yankees (Carlos whatever his name is).

Sometime, look at a budget account for all of the baseball teams, and you'll see, well illustrated for you, why we are always close to last.

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blue73harley 8 years ago

I like watching them, win-or-lose, but they will not get any better until they start keeping their best players instead of trading them off. Sometimes it seems we are just providing a training ground for the likes of Johnny Damon, etc. And Amanda's idea might work, too. Kind of fits with yesterday's OTS question.

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Jclarkson 8 years ago

nope...they'll always be horrid.

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Norma Jeane Baker 8 years ago

Who? Isn't basketball season over?

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