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Do you think roadside memorials are a distraction or a good reminder to slow down and buckle up?

Asked at Massachusetts Street on October 27, 2005

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“Neither. They don’t distract me or encourage me to slow down. I think they just help people remember their loved ones.”

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“I think they do both. It reminds you to slow down and cherish your own life, but in doing so you take your eyes off the road.”

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“I don’t think they are either. I think they are meant to be a reminder to slow down, but people don’t. They see them and just keep right on going.”

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“I think if they are placed close to the road, it can be a distraction. Otherwise I think it is a good reminder, especially if there is more than one on a certain section of the highway.”

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trinity 12 years, 7 months ago

tiny little strings.

and a hi-5 to blueharley!

roadside memorials are just poignant reminders; they do not distract me nor do they influence me to slow down&buckle up.

Aiko 12 years, 7 months ago

Are you ready? Here it comes......The memorials would be best placed in the center of the Roundabouts.."Look kids, Parliament".

killjoy 12 years, 7 months ago

They remind me to becareful; there might be a roundabout coming up!

staff04 12 years, 7 months ago


They are for the families.

Ban roadside memorials. Ban road signs too. They are a huge distraction. Hell, just ban driving. Let's go back to the 19th century...

spym00se 12 years, 7 months ago

They are tacky and pointless. You shouldn't be putting anything on someone elses property, especially crosses. Put your flowers on the gravesite.

juscin3 12 years, 7 months ago

Does our opinions really matter?? I don't mind the question being asked, doesn't bother me at all about the roadside memorials. I noticed that its taken this long to do something about K-10 and the East Business Hills intersection. My guess would be that they fix the problem with another roundabout! Its so sad to say that after 30 yrs if not longer that they FINALLY do something about that instersection. There have been several times that people had pulled out in front of me cuz they thought their judgement was better than the speeding car coming right towards them. shakes head Shall I say more???

sharron5rs 12 years, 7 months ago

They make me think about the many accident victims I helped out while I was in the emergency phase of my life,(which I miss). I do hope they are left alone.

staff04 12 years, 7 months ago

In South Dakota, the state (or some government entity) puts them up.

Topside 12 years, 7 months ago

macon47, I'm 100% with you...they pick up garage sale signs in my city too. Why? People have been holding garage sales for as long as there have been people. They probably even had cave sales. I don't mind monday morning, but hey I have a 10gal. aquarium with a crack in it, a halogen lamp that won't stay on, some baby clothes and old Xmas ornaments I'm trying to sell. Damnit!

I have figured out that the city or paper offers garage sale sign for purchase with an add in the paper. ANyone who doesn't have a purchased sign gets theirs yanked. I'm pretty sure I have the right to post a sign in my yard or neighbors yard with thier permission as long as it meets size restrictions.
I need to study the codes and regs more and then sue a city employee for trespassing and theft if they come onto my yard and steal a sign.

"It's all about G-D Money"-Nick Nolte in "Blue Chips"

sunflower_sue 12 years, 7 months ago

I think that they are a terrible distraction. Also, what about the roadside mowers that have to deal with these memorials? Their job is dangerous enough without trying to dodge or get out and move one. I think they just look tacky, also. Do you know what the roadsides would look like if EVERYONE put up a memorial for a lost loved one that died in an auto accident? I really don't mean to sound harsh...I just think that there are better places to be remembered that wouldn't pose a potential hazard to those on the road. Good day ya'll and drive safely.

bankboy119 12 years, 7 months ago

You could shoot them in self defense if they're trespassing....could be trying to break in to your house...on a Saturday morning none the less.

GreenEyedBlues 12 years, 7 months ago

Garage sale signs might as well say something to the effect of "Come buy some cheap crap I dug out of my basement - 2 blocks east".

My mom always reviled in the summertime when the people on our street would bust out their second hand fodder on the lawns.

We'd always donate our old things to charities, rather than attempt to peddle them off to our neighbors. In this day and age, if you need the money... you should use eBay! It's a great tool and you can do it year-round.

Oh wait, the question was about roadside memorials. Yes. They're reminders of loved ones, unlike balloons, which were created by the devil himself.

bankboy119 12 years, 7 months ago

Let's get into some stimulating discussion....any ideas anyone?

Oh and as for roadside memorials...let them be. They don't cause more accidents.

staff04 12 years, 7 months ago

Off topic, because the topic is stupid:

Harriett Miers asked GWB to withdraw her nomination and he did.

I have a theory about this, and I just want to bounce it off of everybody, conservative, liberal, moderate alike.

I don't think he ever had any intention of getting Harriett Miers on the court. I think she was a distraction nominee that he put up to draw fire while the CIA leak investigation was nearing climax. Rumor here is that the indictments are already done and will be announced later today or early tomorrow. I don't swear by it, but that's the buzz inside the beltway. Isn't it strangely coincidental that, considering the national media's rabid focus on this leak investigation, this happens today? Am I crazy for thinking this?

My prediction is this: Bush will nominate some very conservative candidate as a means to keep his base behind him through the inevitable indictment of Libby and Rove.

Discuss amongst yourselves.

ms_canada 12 years, 7 months ago

OMB - was that your street side memorial to good old Dean Martin?

avhjmlk 12 years, 7 months ago

Probably true, both the speculation and the prediction. They interviewed Sam Brownback on NPR this morning about it, and he named of Janis Rogers Brown and a few of the other more conservative female judges across the country, including the newly affirmed.

My question is, why isn't Deanell Tacha ever discussed seriously?

avhjmlk 12 years, 7 months ago

TOB--yeah, she has some serious eye makeup issues happening! Talk about raccoon!

Linda Aikins 12 years, 7 months ago

I didn't see those pictures! Not good, huh.

I think the crosses are OK, except for the mowing part. It is where their loved ones left the planet.

Does anyone know if the "stationery object" that someone hit last week at OConnell Road was a roundabout?

"A vehicle was driving north about 4 a.m. on O'Connell Road when it crossed K-10 and hit a stationary object and then rolled, said Lt. Kari Wempe, of the Douglas County Sheriff's Office."

Aiko 12 years, 7 months ago

Staff04- That may be the most ignorant and paranoid "theory" I have heard all day. You have too much of an imagination. She was chosen because some people wanted an active attorney and not someone who has been a judge for 100 years. All of the people who do not like Bush will bitch at anyone he selects.

bankboy119 12 years, 7 months ago

staff good point. I'm going to have to agree about that. Now the buzz is going to be why did Harriett Meyers withdrawal and not on who should be indicted. The conservatives weren't happy with the pick and the liberals, of course, were going to fight it no matter what...unless maybe it was Barbara Boxer.

Hopefully Bush does nominate some one more conservative though:)

staff04 12 years, 7 months ago

Aiko- Thanks for your personal attack. I work in Washington, and I just wanted to run some of the things I have been hearing around here by the good people of the board.

I imagine that, since you are the arbiter of what is ignorant, you know who is up next? Enlighten us all, please.

Oh, and it wasn't people who don't like Bush that criticized her, it was his base. They took out a bunch of TV time here to attack her credentials. Maybe you should read a newspaper instead of watching so much tabloid TV news...

canyon_wren 12 years, 7 months ago

I agree with sunflower_sue--I think they look tacky and, in some cases, are distracting (especially on already dangerous spots, which is obviously where they usually wind up). As she says, what if everyone put one up--what a mess that would be.

Most of you posters are too young to remember the signs they put up when I was a child growing up in Kansas. They were square diamonds with a big red X in the middle and the word THINK! on them. (There were additional words of warning, but I don't know that I ever read them.) If five people had been killed at a certain spot, there were 5 signs there, etc. Now THOSE did make you think and were good reminders. Once in a while you run across an old rusty example on a seldom traveled Kansas road. I would have nothing against a renewal of that practice, except that there would be such a cluster--and as pointed out, they would create a mowing problem for highway maintenance.

I think the memorials stuck everywhere are just another manifestation of our society's belief that emotions don't mean anything unless they are "broadcast." Just a variation on the various tell-all talk shows. Guess I sound a bit callous, but I think grieving should be more personal and private than that.

bankboy119 12 years, 7 months ago

Aiko, I'm about the most conservative person you'll meet but I think staff made a good observation. It's all politics on both sides whether we want to admit it or not.

Aiko 12 years, 7 months ago


That is right, I am the "arbiter" of what is ignorant and you have been selected twice now for being both ignorant and paranoid! By the way, this post is as far as I come to reading any "Tabloid" type material. You have now been enlightened and you are welcome.

Aiko 12 years, 7 months ago

Oh, and by the way Staff04, I could care less that you work in Washington. Why you had to throw that in is beyond me....

staff04 12 years, 7 months ago

If you read my posts, you would know that I threw it in for context, considering that the LJW hasn't had as much coverage of any of this stuff.

Hurl some flaming arrows, why don't you?

I feel so much smarter for having been enlightened...

Thank you.

Aiko 12 years, 7 months ago

I hear you bankboy119. It is all politics!

bankboy119 12 years, 7 months ago

I think we did a pretty good job on the hijacking. Staff are you currently in Washington? And did you used to live in Lawrence or is it just such a good paper you like to post lol

bearded_gnome 12 years, 7 months ago

Bankboy, no, I'm probably the more wanna arm wrestle?

as one of the dreaded right wing conservatives, I did have reservations about harriet, and wish for a more overt judicial conservative nominee.

if there's going to be a nominee, might as well have a fight with the likes of boxcar-barbara (sen. of Calif my former abode), and Chuck Schumer.

do not think this is some kind of conspiracy, but rather, us anne coulter-type right wing true believers wanted a nominee we could support.

oh, roadside memorials...should be in neon, flashing, with lasars and sound effects. ya wanna driving dristraction? there ya go.

looking forward to a good strong nominee instead of Harriet.

avhjmlk 12 years, 7 months ago

Ouch! We're being a little overly fiesty today, eh?

bankboy119 12 years, 7 months ago

I think some rules need to be established for the arguing on name calling, it's just childish. Intelligent discussion is appreciated.

Aiko 12 years, 7 months ago

You are right bankboy119, I apologize..

avhjmlk 12 years, 7 months ago

Ok, now that we've all kissed and made up, anyone want to hazard a guess at either of these two topics:

When will the next nominee be named (date, possibly time)?

When will the indictments, if any, be handed down from the special grand jury? And regarding whom?

staff04 12 years, 7 months ago

Thank you Bob. I owe you one...I must have been feeling especially salty that day. Did you actually remember that?

bankboy-- yes, I am currently in Washington. I lived in Lawrence while I was in school, but I grew up in Ottawa. And the LJW is a gem.

You can take the boy out of Kansas, but you can't take the Kansas out of the boy. I maintain my interest in and try to keep up on state politics, and this, quite honestly, is the best discussion forum I have found. There seem to be a fair mix of intelligently expressed opinions here, and that, quite frankly, is kind of hard to find in this world of anonymity.

staff04 12 years, 7 months ago

avhjmlk- I was just wondering the same thing. I'll be bold here with another paranoid and ignorant prediction: I imagine that the nominee has already been selected but will not be named until sometime roughly 12 hours after the indictments come down.

beatrice 12 years, 7 months ago

omb: s_4's comment was originally removed, as I recall. I can't believe you would bring it back -- it is pretty ugly (like most roadside memorials) and you are brighter than that.

On another topic: I can't believe people are still defending and apologizing for our category 5 President. Out of control deficits, a war with no end in sight, corruption and indictments at the highest level, and his continuing habit of placing his friends in high places for which they are not qualified. When Ann Coulter turns against President Bush, you know he is in trouble.

avhjmlk 12 years, 7 months ago


Not bad for a Kansas boy. You might just be right about that one. I am REALLY curious to find out who it will be. Brownback was talking today about how, if Ruth Bader Ginsburg can get overwhelmingly approved, why couldn't someone equally opinionated, but on the conservative side? That's a fair argument, but one must remember that, when Ginsburg was nominated, Roe had already been decided. An equally political nominee from the right would have an incredible opportunity to be a key swing voter on certain issues.

I am NOT trying to start a political argument. I am really just curious to find out who it's going to be.

And, you're right, you can never take the Kansas out of a person.

BunE 12 years, 7 months ago

Roadside Memorials are silly. So is getting T-Shirts done:

RIP Joey 1977-2005 - "And she's buying a stairway to Heavan" - We will never forget you.

The dead are dead. Let them be.

Speaking of the Dead...

Harriet Miers was a 2nd string lawyer from way back. People who are presidents of Bar Associations are lawyers who have to much free time. GW is a hack who made a mis-calculation with Rovey not being in peak form. The next candidate will show case GW pandering skills as he tries to make kissy poo with Brownbacks of the Senate. Though I would rather have a conservative judge who is smart and thoughful than one who owes GW a favor.

We won't get one. We will get a activist conservative judge interested only in pushing his/her agenda on the country.

Filibuster in 3,2,1...

This will be the last gasp of a weak and ineffectual leader as he tries to make a lasting mark on America. His party is falling apart, conservatism has been exposed as the farce that it is and we will soon leave this gilded age behind us.

Still, I love this stuff. Man I love it!

bankboy119 12 years, 7 months ago

Corruption at the highest level? Are we talking about Clinton again?

You can't give a timetable for the war, there are too many unknowns, they hoped it would only be a couple years but everyone has seen what has been happening.

The deficit, it is incredibly ridiculous and the spending needs to stop. That is definitely GOP problem but we can't act like it was all fine and dandy under Monica. The economic recession started in '98 but the actual deficit didn't occur until under Bush. Clinton didn't try to fund a war or pay for hurricane relief either though, he found ways to blow money without those problems.

bankboy119 12 years, 7 months ago

Actually BunE, don't be surprised when a liberal still can't win.

BunE 12 years, 7 months ago

Nothing surprises me except that that Lindsey Lohan hasn't settled down with a nice man yet.

beatrice 12 years, 7 months ago

bankboy: The recession started in '98? Now that is funny. In case you haven't heard, Bill Clinton isn't in office right now. Let us look at who is. The deficit isn't only driven by the cost of the war, which never should have happened, and hurricaine relief, which is new, but from massive tax cuts for the richest 1 percent -- the people W. has proudly called his "base." This administration is helping the wealthy, while they talk about "Christian" values to appeal to the masses. (I put Christian in italics because, based on their actions, I don't believe this administration truly represents genuine Christian beliefs.)

I've said my piece, and I know I won't change your mind, bankboy. I only ask that you fight the fight at hand, and not throw stones at the presidents of the last century.

Political Cartoon Idea: President Bush setting up a roadside memorial for Miers nomination.

beatrice 12 years, 7 months ago

that should read "Miers's nomination."

BunE 12 years, 7 months ago

Actually it should be Miers' confirmation

Aiko 12 years, 7 months ago

Beatrice says "The deficit isn't only driven by the cost of the war, which never should have happened".

9/11 should not have happened but it did. Remember 9/11!

beatrice 12 years, 7 months ago

Aiko: Yes, I do remember 9-11. Do you remember who was responsible? It would have been nice if we kept up the fight on the Taliban, rather than using 9-11 as a smoke-screen to create lies in order to attack an oil-rich country not involved. Now, we have turned a secular nation into one in which Islamic law is written into the new constitution.

Gee, I feel safer now.

Aiko 12 years, 7 months ago

I have to say this Beatrice, I understand what you are trying to say but when you say at the bottom of your post that you do not feel safe in the United States of America please attempt to go where our soldiers are fighting and then say you do not feel safe in this wonderful country to where we do not hear explosions going off every 20 minutes and fear for our lives. Out of respect to all of our soldiers fighting for our country and for people like you and I to feel safe! See, that was nice.

juscin3 12 years, 7 months ago

wow, a simple question turned into heavy politics...whew, glad I don't have to use the brain on this one, just read the posts...too funny on some of them! lol OMB, good post on the special olympics

beatrice 12 years, 7 months ago

Aiko, I hope you aren't trying to suggest that people who don't believe this to be a just war don't respect the soldiers. That isn't what you are implying, is it? I do respect the soldiers -- people who answer the call of their country to fight, without question, is truly awe inspiring. And you are correct, this is a wonderful country. Too bad we have people making decisions that are not in our best interests.

I don't think that this war is a good idea, nor do I feel it is making us safer as a nation. I think this administration has created a breeding ground for terrorism by going into a country that didn't attack us. I would have felt safer if the fight was restricted to attacking those who attacked us -- the Taliban in Afghanistan.

But please, do not suggest that I have nothing but respect for the soldiers. (And given the ways Republicans attacked John Kerry's war record while defended Bush for going AWOL from the Reserves, I might suggest you consider your own views on respecting soldiers.)

Okay, this is a lot more fun than discussing roadside memorials.

staff04 12 years, 7 months ago

Not to be totally self-aggrandizing, but I started it. Nyah!

Manson 12 years, 7 months ago

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Aiko 12 years, 7 months ago

Beatrice, my own views are that of a soldier. I fought and came back 1 year ago last month. I was in the 82nd Airborne Division so PLEASE do not go there. Lets just agree to disagree and move forward.

Aiko 12 years, 7 months ago

How about the crazy machete man that attacked a homeless man last night on 10th and Mass. Street. Insane!

bankboy119 12 years, 7 months ago

If you look at the economics then yes the recession started in 98' I believe, actually it could have been 96'...oh well either way it was under Clinton. I'm not throwing stones at Clinton, I'm just clearing Bush's name on starting the recession. And if you would read the legislation and tax laws then you would see that it isn't just the 1% that received the tax break, they were the first that received it but if you look back in history to Mr. FDR, a lovely liberal, he did the same thing. The highest tax bracket was at 90% and the wealthy were not putting money back into the economy. Once WWII was over and the taxes went back down, low and behold there was more money put back into the economy and the economy grew again. History repeats itself.

Manson 12 years, 7 months ago

"I don't think that this war is a good idea, nor do I feel it is making us safer as a nation. I think this administration has created a breeding ground for terrorism by going into a country that didn't attack us. I would have felt safer if the fight was restricted to attacking those who attacked us -- the Taliban in Afghanistan"- Beatrice

The war protects citizens here in the US. It is a Strategic precaution that in fact saves lives here. Those that are attacking us reside in many countries. By your own statement we would be all over the Mid-east.

avhjmlk 12 years, 7 months ago

Yeah. That is truly the sickest thing in all of this!

Manson 12 years, 7 months ago

They are making a killing. I have read that with regard to infaltion gas now is actually cheaper than it was in the 80's.

staff04 12 years, 7 months ago

Yet somehow, two weeks ago, the House leadership held a 5 minute vote open for 45 minutes while Tom Delay twisted arms and effectively forced two Republicans who had voted against the bill to change their vote and support it. Why, you ask? All this was to ensure that we give STILL MORE subsidies to oil companies.

staff04 12 years, 7 months ago

My bad. It was three weeks ago. 10/7/05 Demockracy happened...

bankboy119 12 years, 7 months ago

Really? Hm...amazingly enough the oil companies said they couldn't help but charge that because of the damage of the hurricanes, how ridiculous.

Manson 12 years, 7 months ago

Oil companies were hamstrung by the refine capacity here in the US. We havn't constructed any new refineries in 20 years. When the refineries are shut down for an extended peiod of time that creates supply problems in the near future. If the supply chain is interupted, as it was with the hurricane, the cost increases.

staff04 12 years, 7 months ago

In all liklihood, the Senate is going to dismantle it. But yes, they forced by muscle, a bill that doesn't do anything to address the high cost of gasoline and other refined fuels (heating oil is a big issue in the northeast) while still giving away billions to oil companies.

As we know, one's rights to dissent are not dictated by their personal experiences, and even if they were, we all have shared in the personal experience of seeing our gasoline prices jump by more than 50% for almost two months before coming down, despite the fact that the costs of crude did not rise that much.

In another interesting twist, we are still down on our refining capacity by almost 20% from pre-hurricane levels, yet prices come down. I don't understand...

thunderbuns 12 years, 7 months ago

As for today's OTS question:

I'll answer it by using a classic lyric line from one of the best movies of all time --- "Waiting for Guffman":

"boring, boring, boring, boring"

staff04 12 years, 7 months ago

E_M-- You said erecting. Huh. Huh-huh.

Sorry, I've been pretty serious all day, just thought I'd throw in a little humor from the early 90's...

staff04 12 years, 7 months ago

Here lies comic genius



ModerateOne 12 years, 7 months ago

How about a erecting a memorial at 10th and Mass for the dead machete? Nah, that just won't cut it.

bearded_gnome 12 years, 7 months ago

Bankboy, Clinton also did nothing about the looming electricity supply crisis which shut down much of California, and hampered business across most of the western U.S. which added to that recession you cite.

AIKO, thanks for your service! I mean that.

wow, harriet, bums' attacks, recessions, clinton's failings, nice job everybody at moving this on to intersting topics instead of the dullsville OTS question...memorials/roadside.

beatrice 12 years, 7 months ago

Aiko: Agreeing to disagree ... Sir!

Seriously, I'm happy you made it back home safely. I would buy you a beer if I actually knew you.

bearded_gnome 12 years, 7 months ago

yeah, TOB, we're almost there!

I answered your question under the story about the bum attack...I wonder if my first post there will be removed because I named the "victim."

oh well. its time to walk gnomedog.

I just love this weather, it is so cool and crisp, perfect for walking.

hey, there's an idea for the next OTS question: are the leaves dropping from the trees like every year?

anyway, I'll check back here in about four or five hours! I still think we need to devise our own system of submitting and voting on our own "on the street" question here, instead of just beefing about the bad ones they give!
"freaky deeky" ... power to the people!

bearded_gnome 12 years, 7 months ago

this is comment #93.

Roadside memorials are really not a good idea, because after a short time they just start to look shabby.

how's that for being on topic.
anyway, see y'all later.

Ceallach 12 years, 7 months ago

While I would not tell people they should not make roadside memorials, I have never understood the purpose they serve. If I lost a loved one to an accident, I would always remember the spot, with or without the decorations. People are just as diverse in their means of grieving as they are in everything else.

All y'all got a little rowdy today! I come home after a hard day of laboring over template designs (sooooooo boring!!!), check in to see what's going on and WOW. Although, it was nothing like yesterday's war on the Morrison article's board!! Those guys were wild!! Arminius and wendt, naming names, talking trash. I don't know where David R was, but it was intense.

Personally, I think the universe is made up of particles held together by tiny little strings. My unanswered question is which came first, the particles or the strings?

I was really alarmed by the news that conservatives are falling apart!!! I can't tell if that's true or not. I had assumed that some of the "falling" was due to the effects of gravity lo these many years. Hmmm.... I'm trying to think of a liberal I know who has it all together and make a comparison.... this may take a while.

jonas 12 years, 7 months ago

Goodness. I miss all the good days.

Aiko: Snarl growl.

Staff04: Interesting conspiracy theory. Me, I think it just comes down to Bush being incompetent, but I admit freely that you have as much chance of being right as I.

Personally, I think the cosmos is held together by what appear to be tiny little particles, but on even closer examination, are actually tiny little gremlins holding strings.

Roadside memorials are simply grim to me. Slightly morbid, as well, but I've never lost a friend to a drunk driving accident.

Oh, and bankboy, you're a weanie!

bearded_gnome 12 years, 7 months ago

96 here.

Ceallach, as one of the dreaded social conservatives, I would tell you that actually today was a demonstration of our democratic effectiveness, and we feel we are holding GWB to his campaign promises. all of us still supported GWB through all this, but when a supreme court nominee's first endorsement is from the leader of the senate's democrats, well, we started getting indigestion from that point.

Sam Brownback accurately represented this constituent.

yeah, today was quite a day on here!

now, those darned templates all done Ceallach?

beatrice 12 years, 7 months ago

Ceallach: Strings came before particles, without a doubt! Strings were floating about, and when they collided pieces broke off, forming pieces of string. These pieces got smooth over time from bumping into other pieces, kind of like a rock being smoothed by a river. Eventually, the soft and gooey part of the broken off stings touched the newly smoothed pieces, which had been smoothed down to nothing more than particles, and they got "stuck" back together with the strings. Thus we have the beginning of the universe.

Peace and love, everybody.

Ceallach 12 years, 7 months ago

What a great evening. Got home from class in time to find an answer to one of life's pressing questions, the particle or the tiny string. In fairness to the particle I must give this more thought before commiting myself to any of the afore mentioned theories. But I must admit I tend to be a stringist :)

gnome: Thanks for asking. Guess I was acting like Wendy Whiner :) [90% of the board may not be old enough to remember who that was :] They are not quite finished, but at least by 5:00 I felt like completing them was a possibility (something I wasn't sure about mid-day). A pox on the villains that developed templates AND cascading style sheets!!!!

Ban templates!!!!

bearded_gnome 12 years, 7 months ago

"cascading style sheets..." that's to do with a website display properties, right?

so, KU pays you to do this, or thrash some underpaid staffer to do it--or you're the under paid staffer?

if this were KSU, they could pay you in say crops or dairy products...but what can kU pay for barter? classified aerospace research? free lied center tickets?
good night and good day. this is #98 by the way.

bearded_gnome 12 years, 7 months ago

darn, was one off, and this post makes #100! yeah!

Ceallach 12 years, 7 months ago

Are you sure??? I think maybe I am #100 :):) If so it was worth staying up for -- if not -- bummer end to a bummer day!!

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