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Are you happy that this winter is supposed to be warmer than usual?

Asked at Borders, 700 N.H. on October 24, 2005

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Photo of Marissa Piltz

“Yes, definitely yes. I just came from Southern California, and I’m very happy that I won’t freeze walking to school this winter.”

Photo of Jim Bauer

“I might be a little disappointed. I miss the big snows we used to get when I was a kid.”

Photo of Ali Wells

“Yes and no. Yes, because the cold and I don’t get along. No, because it alarms me that the weather is continually getting warmer.”

Photo of James Bush

“The weather today is about as cold as I would prefer it to get. I think the most fortunate part would be that people are going to save a lot on their heating bills.”

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thunderbuns 12 years, 1 month ago


you should be in bed my little chum!!!!

lunacydetector 12 years, 1 month ago

i love warm winters. i hope for really warm winters forever.

ku_law 12 years, 1 month ago

I am pleased. I'm not a big fan of super cold weather.

Jayhawk226 12 years, 1 month ago

I'll believe it when I see it/feel it!

thunderbuns 12 years, 1 month ago

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Jclarkson 12 years, 1 month ago

Im highly disapointed about the winter supposedly being warmer than normal. I prefer snow, and lots of it.

staff04 12 years, 1 month ago

Winter heating prices are projected to be up by as much as 70% this winter...

italianprincess 12 years, 1 month ago

Like Marissa I to am from So. Cal and I'm not one for the cold either. I turned my heater on this morning because I woke up freezing. Not much of a winter person here.

I'm glad its not going to be to cold because walking my daycare kids to and from school is hard in the winter. We all freeze until we get into the building then freeze again until we get back to the house.

I'm also happy that the heating bills won't get as outrageous as they said they could get. I have always disliked paying such high gas prices around the holiday season too.

But like my friend Karin says...........Stick around for another 15 minutes and the weather will change. Meaning .......Even though they say its going to be warmer this winter that may change by next week.

Have a good day, stay warm and hope , and hope everyone had a fantastic weekend.

sharron5rs 12 years, 1 month ago

I to miss the snow. Living in the country, in an old farmhouse, the snow gives you some insulation aginst the winds and bitter cold. It works for houses in town too. Just shovel the snow against the foundation, stopes the wind coming in at the base of the house. Helps with the fuel bill also.

neopolss 12 years, 1 month ago

I specifically went out this weekend and bought quartz heaters and ceramic oil heaters for each room in the house. After testing, the Holmes digital oil filled heater works awesome. Simply close up the bedroom, set the temp at 75 or 80 on the heater, and that room will stay toasty all night. Well enough that I can turn the furnace way down (it probably kicks on only twice at night and not at all during the day). I refuse to pay another outrageous heating bill this year, and I encourage others to do the same.

The math makes it worth it. A medium sized home will easily run $250 - $300 in heating for just one month set at 75 degrees. One can easily buy 4-5 heaters (we're talking the good ones here) and still come up saving money in the end. I paid $44 for my oil heater, and now plan on getting another for the other bedroom.

If all of us begin to pitch in and avoid using natural gas, the sharp decrease in demand should show us that they are either gouging us and saying otherwise, or are simply poor businessmen who cannot effectively streamline their costs. Let's make Aquila earn that dollar!

Oh, and yes I am happy for a warmer winter.

Jclarkson 12 years, 1 month ago

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Aiko 12 years, 1 month ago

I am not sure that this years winter will be mild. Their weather predictions are usually wrong from day to day much less predicting an entire winter forecast. Boring one please!

italianprincess 12 years, 1 month ago


The first two posts read as follows:

  1. I'm first

  2. I'm second

thunderbuns 12 years, 1 month ago

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memoirs_of_a_sleepwalker 12 years, 1 month ago

Kansas pansies. This state doesn't have cold weather. Real Americans like it cold.

staff04 12 years, 1 month ago

Sounds like the weather here, OMB. Where you located?

nlf78 12 years, 1 month ago

I'd love to get at least one good snow this winter. I remember how we used to get them when I was a kid! But I'm hopeful for a warmer winter because anything we can do to save on our gas bills is needed. I know that space heaters are alot safer than they used to be...but thinking of people putting one in every room, that terrifies me! To me it just says fire hazard.

sunflower_sue 12 years, 1 month ago

All I want is 55 degrees and 2 feet of that too much to ask?

Ceallach 12 years, 1 month ago

"Warm" is relative. Since I am now officially cold for the winter the only variables remaining are degrees of ability to function :) Gotta rev up the mattress warming pad and get out the "Cuddle Duds."

Doesn't it seems like every time we have a mild winter it is followed by a bumper crops of insects coming at us from early spring through fall? But I guess we can buy a lot of repellant with the savings from our gas bills.

omb: same thing in the valley, upper 50's or lower 60's will bring out the ear muffs, parkas, and gloves.

(Read this fast, it may not last!) Obscenity or personal attack on this board have dropped off considerably, one would think a little humor would be tolerated, if not encouraged.

I think one of our more ambitious posters should start a new blog (maybe call it the TCWRBTSS Club) where those who have had comments removed by the ljw staff can display a little humor without getting zapped. Hopefully the questions will be above the second grade level.

italianprincess 12 years, 1 month ago

I truely don't mind the snow much, I just don't enjoy the cold. I for sure don't enjoy the ice either. A Cali lady and cold just don't mix all the well.

I need to have the fireplace cleaned out and quick. That will save on using the heater a bit ( at least in the living room ) and theres always the ton of blankets we have too.

Sunflower Sue,

Thanks again for all the goodies you made for the benefit. I do believe all of yours went very quickly. What was left over and not completely wet from the rain got taken over to the Salvation Army.

We are in works for another something right now. Better weather of course and more then 5 weeks of planning time this time around. I just enjoy helping out others who need help from time to time. I'm sure some of us have been there once before. Sometimes just a smile lets another person know you care.

cutny 12 years, 1 month ago

Even Money...I can't say "inventory."

Matt Woodard 12 years, 1 month ago

"Yes, definitely yes. I just came from Southern California, and I'm very happy that I won't freeze walking to school this winter."

Marissa, good luck. Hate to be the bearer of bad news and I hope you are not planning on this "warm winter" meaning 55 degrees and sunny from Dec-Feb. 25-30 degrees (warm for winter?) is still below freezing and we will see plenty of those days...not to mention the cool breezes that go with it. Oh, but I'm sure they mean the wind chills will be warmer as well. Aw, but we never see cold weather here anyway. lol

I certainly hope the "warmer" weather will keep us all from going broke due to heating costs. Start winterizing now.

Adrienne Sanders 12 years, 1 month ago

Did you guys read the accompanying article? Am I misinterpreting something, or does it say an average of 1 degree Farenheit warmer per day? That doesn't really sound nice and toasty to me.

Linda Aikins 12 years, 1 month ago

OMB, a day just isn't successful unless you hear/see the word Uranus. Thank you.

lunacydetector 12 years, 1 month ago

Lulu, 'You're just too good to be true'.....i'll give you some Four Seasons..........'Big Girls Don't Cry, Big Girls Don't Cry, Biig Girls...they don'ta Cry, Y, Y, they don't cry.'

stop your cryin' and 'Walk Like Man'...err WomEn.

oldfashiongirl 12 years, 1 month ago

Neopolss: You spend 250-300 monthly on gas?? Just looked up my natural gas bills for last year and they totalled $388.82 or $32.40 per month. This is for a 1600 sf house, one floor with a "great room" that I heat with natural gas logs. Keeps it warm as toast and I use the lowest setting. Sometimes I just leave it on "pilot" and the room is comfortable. My brother comes by and cannot believe I am only using pilot lite. My house is well insulated and I live alone, with no one around to open and rarely close doors after them. Haven't turned it on yet. I can't stand the noise of the big furnace with the noisy blower blowing cold air down my neck.

I, too, hope this will be a warm winter, though we had one day last year that was -7 degrees. We only had one light covering of snow last season and I didn't get to make my annual batch of snow cream. Mom always said to wait till the second snow when all the impurities were out of the air to make it. Reminds me in my youth up in hills of Ky and we had a big snow during the day. Mom made some snow cream and warned the other children not to tell us older ones when we came home from school. WE just got our foot in the door when my little brother, Bob, said "bet you can't guess what we had today." Well, Mom spanked him but made us some too.

Ceallach, thanks for your explanation. I tried to email you back but it was returned "undeliverable". I short of thought that was what he meant. What are Cuddle Duds?

Dixie Jones 12 years, 1 month ago

i say we build a fire in a round-about and have a block party

christie 12 years, 1 month ago

Warmer Winters? If this is Global Warming I'm all for it.

Has anyone got their Utility Bill lately? My rates doubled from last month, and I hardly had the heat on at all.

Thanks George, for allowing the Gas Companies to continue to rip us off. By the way, how come GAS is down to $2.29 after Katrina. The refineries are still out of commission so what's up with that.???

Ceallach 12 years, 1 month ago

oldfashionedgirl: o_m_b gave you the "guy" definition of cuddle duds :) My definition is that they are a soft, silky, lacy equivalent of the thermal underwear known as "long johns." They are light weight, can be easily worn under slacks or suits, available in a variety of colors and designs (turtle neck, v-neck, round neck). You can find them in many department stores in the lingerie section. I could not survive winter in Kansas without them!! Don't you think they should send me several pairs for such a nice advertising spot??

I'm sorry about your reply not going through. I'm not sure what the problem was, I just sent a test email to the account and it went through all right. The address is please feel free to try again :)

bearded_gnome 12 years, 1 month ago

guess I am no.47/48 today.

wow, first two posts removed...great start to the thread!

mrs. gnome has wintersilk long underwear, all silk, pink or silver/white, very nice...but we never call them cuddle duds.

she's another southern cal woman (being from central cal, we always referred to it as inferior california).

she needs the silk long underwear many days even in "warmer winters.

really, to answer the question, I don't care that much, it won't matter so much gas prices (lng) are so high anyway. gonna get a nice small quartz heater for Mrs. gnome's musicroom...I like it cooler anyway. so, I say, bring on the snow!

now, last week the ban was ban lawrence employees of the city from taking cars home...the ground shudders as the time nears...what will the ban of the week be this week?


Ceallach 12 years, 1 month ago

TOB: Cuddling is an art form in it's own right. If it ends without a bang --- someone ain't doing somethin right! I recommend practice, practice, practice.


neopolss 12 years, 1 month ago

oldfashiongirl, did you add in the cost of the natural gas logs? I was talking about what this years bill may be. My highest last year for one month was $200, followed by several months of $100. Usually all I need gas for is cooking and showers, but I don't necessarily trust the gas company being totally honest in their measurements. At that rate I expected to see at least $300 for one month. No thanks. I wish I had a fireplace that heated my home, I do not.

That said, in response to an earlier post. I have a heater in each room so I don't need to wheel one around everywhere. I don't have it on unless I'm actually in the room. It really is no more dangerous than any other appliance provided one follows directions.

Ceallach 12 years, 1 month ago

Small world, e_m. I had to replace my water heater late last spring (I cannot believe it is a coincidence that President Bush is re-elected and both of us have to replace water heaters! It must be a governmental consipiracy:) I am my own dishwasher, I can't justify the expense to get another when I ordinarily just have dishes for one. It would take a week or more to fill the thing!

Yes, I am happy it will be one degree warmer each day, that will make a huge difference in my gas bill -- is anyone out there really buying that?

ms_canada 12 years, 1 month ago

You people in Kansas really don't know what cold is. Come spend a winter with me and you'll cold. How about 38 below. and remember that 40below F. is the same as40 below C. does it ever get that cold in Lawrence? I like the snow. and don't even mind shovelling it. Good exercise. Aout those oil filled space heaters. They are the greatest. I have one at my lake cottage. The only heat that I have in the cottage is a wood burning stove and I sure as shootin ain't gonna stay up all night to feed it so I just close the bedroom door and plug in the electric oil heater. Nothing could be safer than it. My cottage neighbour just installed one of those pellet burning stoves and he swears by it. Electric fan throws the heat out the front and keeps his rather large 3 bedrm cottage really toasty. Beats gas, he says. Ceallach, by cuddle duds, I thought you were referring to your long flannel granny nightgown. One long enough that you can curl your feet up inside it. Or flannel pj's. But I personally think that a rather large long cuddle dude is preferable, don't you?

Ceallach 12 years, 1 month ago

o_m_b: That was exactly what I expected, a manly man answer. But far too practical an assessment for the girly girls. We don't want to wear "long johns" to keep warm, that sounds like something for a lumberjack -- we want something with a name that sounds like we want to feel, soft and pampered.

Before someone makes it clear that I am not speaking for all women, just let me say, I know that.

Ceallach 12 years, 1 month ago

Oh my! ms_c, I'll never accuse you of beating around the bush!! Irish women blush easily you know :) Hopefully, I'll think of a reply by the time I get home ;)

oldfashiongirl 12 years, 1 month ago


You are wondering what they will ban next? I read a portion of LWJ in Sunday's paper (on line) and they said the commission is going to ban weddings of persons under 16 years old. I'm all for that, though my parents were 15 Dad, and Mom 16, way back in 1918. They were married 70 years and had 16 children. You ought to be at least 18 before you marry, later is better, as I was 28. I married in Europe and had to have my parents notarized permission to marry and they post the engagement in the city's government office to insure that there are no local objections to the marriage. That would be a good question to ask for OTS.

Ceallach 12 years, 1 month ago

ms_c, it's the wind chill that gets you here. Kansas is right in the path of the Canadian Clippers that blow down to Mexico. Nothing but flat land and it gets a good speed by the time it reaches us. Sometimes when schools are cancelled it has to do with the wind chill being so low.

I just took another lesson in humility. Happens every time I go to Home Depot. o_m_b loves it I'm sure, the whole store is organized to target manly men:) I might as well have a neon light on my head that says "dumber than dirt, greener than grass, come sell me something I don't need and can't possibly use without professional assistance." And that was in the venitian blinds section!! Imagine if I had been in the plumbing or electrical area. Actually the young man was very nice and he did find a blind he could cut to fit, but he questioned me as he would a five year old.

Speaking of children :) I was driving my granddaughter to a friend of her mother's house and we were on Monterrey going from 15th St to 8th St. As we approached the "roundabout" the eight year old said, "I don't understand how that circle helps anything, isn't it more confusing for drivers? How do you know when to go if a lot of cars are here?" I immediately thought of all the "roundabout rowdies" on the OTS board and realized that even a child can see what apparently escapes the notice of our city leaders.

Richard Heckler 12 years, 1 month ago

Silk undies(for men and women) and wool sweaters not to mention a home grown patch work quilt or two. Mom and Dad with the little one in bed keeps all very cozy. However the little one is now requesting her own space so life will carry on but we know she'll be back from time to time.

Last winter we had to replace the furnace and hot water heater. City codes required certain venting so had to purchase the most energy efficient furnance. We also chose quite an energy efficient water heater as well. A few months use will tell the story.

Ceallach 12 years, 1 month ago

merrill: She'll be back, that's for sure. People used to ask me why I didn't insist that the little ones sleep in their own beds, in their own rooms. I firmly believe that sleeping with parents can be such a security boost when children are so young. It's also nice to have them snuggled close and safe through the night. Plus it's easier to keep covers on them :)

Hope everyone has a great night!! I'm off the MCI with my daughter to pick up my oldest grandson.

bearded_gnome 12 years, 1 month ago

Oldfashionedgirl, that ban is at the statewide level, to ban marriages for people under 16.
seems here in lawrence we get one a week. just watch, will be one pop up tomorrow with the commish ya roundabouts to doughnuts.

bearded_gnome 12 years, 1 month ago

ceallach, outa the mouths of babes. wow. right on she is.

good night all. and, no, never been a fountain. however, people say I spout off.

wt=wireless transmission

Richard Heckler 12 years, 1 month ago


We did the same with our two older children. Gave up on the bed and laid two queen size futons on the floor. That provided room for all and removed any fear of little ones rolling off the bed. Sooner or later they want their own space.

bearded_gnome 12 years, 1 month ago

Sorry nudey-dudey, you're 70, merrill was #69.

now, any of you yocals users of skype?

if so please e-mail me at: thanks and good night, #71 here...

silk is good but futons are a communist conspiracy, like brussel sprouts.

"always look on the bright side of life" [insert whistling] "always look on the right side of life." ..."jus remember that the last laugh's on you."

Ceallach 12 years, 1 month ago

Careful there nudist, counting and posting numbers is a demonstrated breach of ljw policy to the extent that you could be removed by the site staff.

We got our man-cub home safe and sound from MCI so I thought I would check the board and see if anything RADICAL was happening:)


Lulu 12 years, 1 month ago

I am mad as hell that our weather is getting warmer. Hurricane Bush is to blame because of Kyoto. Wake up and smell the coffee people!!!!!!!!!! Warmer winters , hotter summers and we are living in hell if you believe in a hell which I don't but it has to be like this and Dante's description. Give me the Four Seasons back like the good old days. Damn!!!!!

bearded_gnome 12 years, 1 month ago

before Bush was president and he could single-handedly wreck the world's weather [smirk] kyoto treaty was voted down in the senate 98 to zip. this included Kerry and kennedy voting against.
I suppose bush also blew up the New Orleans levee too... wow, what a lulu indeed! here are four sesons: salt, sugar, sage and pepper... foil hat to keep out the rays from the planet of darkness, eh? bye

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