Are you disappointed that the KU football game has been moved to Arrowhead Stadium? / LJWorld.com

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Asked at Jefferson's Restaurant, 743 Mass. on October 14, 2005

“No, because I’m going out of town, and it’s nice that the game will be nationally televised so that students on fall break can watch it from wherever they go.”

— Jodi Pearson, server, Wayzata, Minn.

“Absolutely. I’m a University of Oklahoma graduate, and I’m very disappointed in the athletic administration for moving it when Memorial Stadium is an absolutely gorgeous place to watch the game at this time of year.”

— Paul Kelton, history professor, Lawrence

“No. They can bring in more revenue at Arrowhead than they can at Memorial Stadium. It will mean more money for KU, just not for Lawrence.”

— Chris Nelson, Kansas University graduate student, Lawrence

“Yes, because it takes business away from the Lawrence community.”

— Katie Boogher, executive assistant, Lawrence

KU fans taking money to K.C.

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14 October 2005
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gccs14r (Anonymous) says…

A weekend when our crumbling streets will get a break from out-of-town traffic? I'm all for it.
14 October 2005
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thunderbuns (Anonymous) says…

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14 October 2005
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Jclarkson (Anonymous) says…

If KU beats Oklahoma, will Dick Vermiel stop fans from tearing down the goalposts????
14 October 2005
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merrill (Anonymous) says…

It's going to take more than a game played in a big stadium to improve KU' s win loss stats. Seems Texas, K State, OU and Nebraska take care of Big 12 football while KU takes care of basketball so let's leave it at that….after all it's only a game. Fans still have fun hanging around Lawrence whether KU has winning football team or not and local residents make a few extra bucks parking cars in yards..

Let's keep the money in town
14 October 2005
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jwmound (Anonymous) says…

somebody has to win in that stadium!! ha, might as well be the hawks.
14 October 2005
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KsjKC (Anonymous) says…

It's a little sad and a little aggravating, but just another symptom; Lawrence stopped being Lawrence YEARS ago and is unfortunately well on its way to being some homogenous and faceless clone of Overland Park. Turn off the cell-phones and extinguish all smoking materials while passing though the roundabouts…you are in Stepford, Kansas…

(Was that over the top? I can never tell…)
14 October 2005
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ive_got_my_ascot_n_my_dickie (Anonymous) says…

KU has a football team?

14 October 2005
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blue73harley (Anonymous) says…

I think it is great since the results of the game will embarass KU in front of a bigger crowd.
14 October 2005
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neopolss (Anonymous) says…

Does that mean that when everyone leaves town for a day we'll have the streets to ourselves?

That will be a great time to set up a press conference and coach the participants on what to say, since no one (except for the lone cameraman) will be around to see us.
14 October 2005
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KsjKC (Anonymous) says…

…and be sure to use officers so far from the front they bump into Pentagon coke-machines..;)

OOPS—How DARE I make this post political…Hee Hee
14 October 2005
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KsjKC (Anonymous) says…

Wait.
Stop.
Who is spreading these lies?
Abbott and Costello broke up?
14 October 2005
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The_Original_Bob (Anonymous) says…

“It's a little sad and a little aggravating, but just another symptom; Lawrence stopped being Lawrence YEARS ago and is unfortunately well on its way to being some homogenous and faceless clone of Overland Park.” KCjKS

Totally agree. You say this to the average Lawrence person and they look at you like you are satan, nevermind how true it is. All the prototypical Lawrencians that posted the effect of “thank goodness, no tourists” are the same ones that bitch about bad roads, bad libraries, etc… are clueless. KU home games, much less games against teams that travel well, are a significant boom to the local economy.

The game being moved is just another scam by East Coast Lew. He wanted a quick paycheck and so moving a home game to KC (which will become an OU home game) was it. Poor poor Lew, though. He thought OU would be a Top 5 team at this point. Now, they aren't and Independence, MO isn't that attractive of a place to travel… especially when Lawrence was the other option.
14 October 2005
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ebbenji (Eric Beightel) says…

Providing KU players the opportunity to play in an NFL stadium against a top notch (usually) opponent does nothing but help the football program.

If you make the program better, you get better recruits, the team gets better, they win more games, more people come to home games and everyone wins.

This is an investment in the future of Kansas football. This will benefit the local businesses in the long run.

People should really get over it. If you want a competitive team that draws large crowds, you have to make a few sacrifices along the way.

Perkins is doing a fine job. Raising money and the profile of the university. This needs to be done.
14 October 2005
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cutny (Anonymous) says…

People…people…please, get over the roundabouts. Figure out how to navigate them and do it. Stop beating a dead horse. The comments stopped being funny and ironic a few weeks ago. Oh wait, they never were. If you reallly have that much trouble navigating them, you might give pause to the notion that you aren't an educated driver and would do us all a favor by parking that car of yours.
14 October 2005
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The_Original_Bob (Anonymous) says…

2/3 filled NFL stadium where 60%+ of the fans will be cheering for OU. Yes, do tell, big help to the football team. Not to mention giving up homefield advantage against a down OU team where one of those wins you were talking about was definately possible. Not to mention the negative effect on the local economy. Investment in the future of KU football? I don't see it.

I do agree that Lew is doing a fine job… just a mistake on this game. If he wanted an Arrowhead game… perhaps a non-con game against good competition (as opposed to what MU did) prior to the Big 12 slate.

14 October 2005
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Dazie (Aileen Dingus) says…

cutny- AMEN.
14 October 2005
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blue73harley (Anonymous) says…

Perkins is raising money for Perkins.
14 October 2005
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Genetic02 (Anonymous) says…

Financially speaking, doesn't KU benefit more by playing a game in an NFL stadium filled to 2/3 capacity than it would by playing at Memorial Stadium filled to 2/3 capacity? IF KU were to defeat OU this year, wouldn't it draw more fan support, whether at Memorial Stadium or Arrowhead, in the years to follow?

Besides getting more exposure for the Kansas University, I think playing a football game at Arrowhead allows other KU fans, that may not live within an earshot of Lawrence, the opportunity to decide whether or not they'd be interested in supporting the team in Lawrence.

I could be wrong.
14 October 2005
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italianprincess (Anonymous) says…

Good Morning Everyone and TGIF!!!!!!!!!!
Happy Friday to all of you in here.

I'm not much of a football fan so this question wouldn't matter to me. I truely don't undestand what each flag means let alone those markers either. I'm more of a baseball girl……..so Go Angels!!!!!!!!!

Heres one for all of you to ponder on for the day.

I have a daycare parent who was on her way here to pick up here son after work yesterday. She ran out of gas and got basically got stuck. She was in her car when an officer pulled up next to her and told her she couldn't park there and to move her car. She told this officer she wasn't parking that she had run our of gas. He then told her again that she couldn't stop there and to move her car. She told him she was eight months pregnant and she was tyring to get ahold of someone and he then told her that wasn't his problem and to move her car. The whole time this officer was in his car and didn't offer as assitance what so ever.

He drove off leaving her there to fend for herself. She ended up pushing her car out of the way, walking to a gas station, paid for a can of gas, walked back to her car and thats when she called me. She was in tears and she was in major pain around her stomach area. She told me a friend was on her way to pick up her son and that she was going to the hospital. She thought she may in labor because of so much pain she was having.

She called my after she left the hospital and said she was okay, she hadn't gone into labor but did pull alot of stomach muscles. Talk about a scare for her and how frantic she was.

The bad thing is she didn't get the officer's name or badge number because he never got out of his car. I told her she has a case here against this officer and the LPD, but she would have to write down everything she remembered. Where she was, time it was and if she could describe him.

If feel she has a case here, but thats just me. I would rake this officer for not ” To Protect and Server ” doing his job by helping out a citizen in distress.

We shall see what happens with this and if she does anything about it. I told her this morning when she dropped off her son that she was insane if she didn't do anything at all.

To make a long story short here…….. He then l
14 October 2005
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lunacydetector (Anonymous) says…

don't let them fool you, it's all about the money! it's k.u.'s way of giving back to the community -not!
14 October 2005
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lunacydetector (Anonymous) says…

…and not trying to sound harsh IP, but was it the officer's fault your friend ran out of gas?
14 October 2005
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lunacydetector (Anonymous) says…

…and another thing IP, was your friend running late and couldn't stop for gas because you charge a late pickup penalty per minute? i had one of my kids in daycare and the lady nailed me on a per minute basis. i think it was $2 per minute.

if you do enforce the late pickup fee, and this lady was running out of gas, perhaps it is YOUR fault the lady had to push her car. just trying to get to the root of the matter. -but i am assuming ALOT of things.

actually, i'm trying to be a smart *ss.

perhaps the cop misunderstood your friend and it's all a big misunderstanding -kinda like the dispatcher who had the police go to some old couples house because the caller i.d. had the dispatcher's extension and the caller was from oklahoma.
14 October 2005
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Gootsie (Anonymous) says…

I am not happy it is moved. I firmly believe that money should stay in Lawrence. And I'm going to the game and will spend gas $ and have yet another drive to KC. But I will go to support the team. I'd like to hear the reasons why it is there so I can understand.

IP - I'm so sorry about your friend. I hope things are OK. I would bet she does not name her baby after the officer.

Cutny and Dazie - geez. Lighten up. We love making fun of the roundabouts and will absolutely continue doing. You are welcome to move to another website, if you wish. And in all honesty, I think we are just so clever and hilarious. Everyone should be us.

14 October 2005
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bankboy119 (Anonymous) says…

Yeah Cutny and Dazie, if you don't like it, leave. As for all the roundabout jokes, keep em coming, maybe somebody will do something if they realize they really are absolutely horrific. BTW I can drive my car through them or around them or stop in between them I can. I'd really just like to get a bulldozer though and take care of them.

For KU football….whoever said it was a good thing, you're wrong. Who in Missouri cares about KC football? As soon as you get over the state line nobody cares about KU…I found it weird when I moved up to the city but it's just life. Now the money will be going to Missouri that could have been going to KS, wow great idea Lew.
14 October 2005
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raven (Anonymous) says…

I think some of the problems with this board is that it is really an in-crowd, out-crowd thing. I used to comment but I don't much anymore because no one takes anything seriously. And if someone points that out-everyone gets defensive.
14 October 2005
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italianprincess (Anonymous) says…

Gee Lun……… I was simply stating a story here. And yes I do charge a late fee, but my parents are on time so no one has been charged so far.

The fact is this……..this officer was an @$$hole and thats that. My sister called me and told me they don't have to do anything they don't want to and its there choice. So on that note……..I guess you could say this one officer needs to get a clue and have a heart.
14 October 2005
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bankboy119 (Anonymous) says…

raven I agree, nobody takes it serious but come on. If we did Lawrence would be at 25% unemployment, Topside would have made $5k from Mike and Azure would have sent me $5k as well. As it stands….I'm still missing my money.
14 October 2005
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memoirs_of_a_sleepwalker (Anonymous) says…

No. Who cares? Go back to work.
14 October 2005
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thunderbuns (Anonymous) says…

My friends, you should have read the totally harmless post I made (way up near the top) that got removed by the LJW ! I'm new to these parts. Someone 'splain to me what the deal is????!!! Unbelieveable!

I guess I'll have to run my comments by the LJW staff FIRST before I post! Sheesh!
14 October 2005
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Gootsie (Anonymous) says…

E_M, do we need to prepare for a Necronomicon roundabout pandemic?
14 October 2005
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raven (Anonymous) says…

I really don't care if the conversations are taken seriously. This is not a serious subject and does not leave much room for conversation or debate. But, when someone makes a comment about the jokes usually people become defensive. That is what I have noticed. Although-it is hard to tell what people really mean when you have such little space for comments.

14 October 2005
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rhd99 (Anonymous) says…

This weekend's football game being moved to Arrowhead is a catch 22, & I found out who was behind it all, the chancellor. The reason behind this was that he could attract more KU fans &/or alum from the K.C. metro area (immediately within Arrowhead proper). Now, the Catch 22 I bring up is as follows: 1. Lawrence loses & loses BIG not just this game but the money our community could have generated. 2. How can the chancellor himself guarantee US that this move will bring MORE KU backers to the game tomorrow night? I am against things like this, because Lawrence just doesn't have what it takes to attract big events like this KU-OU game. Though, I have heard OU has had a terrible season thus far. Not as bad as KU, though.
14 October 2005
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consumer1 (Anonymous) says…

You know what? I don't get a penny of the money spent on football games in Lawrence, or Kansas City. so, i don't really care, except that when there is a game in town it becomes a nightmare to try and get across town. So, once again, NO money to me, no care to me.
14 October 2005
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rhd99 (Anonymous) says…

Consumer1, fair enough. I have to work anyway tomorrow, so, it's another few bucks I save.
14 October 2005
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Gootsie (Anonymous) says…

Raven, I think you are right. But I too think that when there is a serious question, there are a lot more serious answers. But there are some really clever people here, I think.

Can't we all just get along? Yes, even you, Consumer1.
14 October 2005
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Genetic02 (Anonymous) says…

As a former KU athlete (Bob Frederick/Al Bohl era), I was never really fond of the A.D. anyway. I think this, partly, stems from Frederick's decision to discontinue men's swimming and men's tennis. Those feelings probably just carried over to Bohl's stint.

Anyway…I don't know, in detail, the official job description used to outline the duties of an athletic director, but I'm not real sure how much of it deals with boosting the economy outside the college campus. I agree that they are public figures and, yes, they should work alongside other public figures with power to better the community, using the resources they have at their disposal. However, I think Lew's main focus, as it should be, is athletics. If everyone ranted and raved about awesome the economy was in Lawrence while ku's athletic performance was pathetic, across all sports, I think Lew would be on the hotseat. Therefore, I don't think we should really expect him to think of Lawrence's economy first, when it comes to KU athletics.

Once again,…I could be wrong.
14 October 2005
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neopolss (Anonymous) says…

raven, many of us on here stopped being serious when the LJW began removing posts everytime a serious discussion came about. I'd like to say that it was because of an inappropriate comment, but as thunderbuns post (and mine yesterday) were moved out more by a personal opinion of taste than anything. It seems that post removal is random and at the discretion of what the admin likes or dislikes.

The admin's complaint was originally being off-topic for removal, but I believe that about as much as I believe that the city can buy a roundabout for $50,000.

I probably went too far with the last part. Expect this post to be removed.
14 October 2005
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avhjmlk (Anonymous) says…

Guys, I sense some “I need a weekend REALLY badly” vibes here!

Who on this list is posponing making/buying your child's halloween costume articles till the last minute? All I have to do is make a cowgirl vest out of some old jeans…I'll probably do it 10/30…
14 October 2005
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bearded_gnome (Anonymous) says…

zzz zzz zzzzzzzz!

“in a rit of fealous jage.”

just so you'all know I was here…
off topic? serious discussion?
hard, mentally trying work being a 9-1-1 dispatcher with stress it is hard to imagine. you're just on the end of some phone line with limited time and limited info—oops sorry, I got serious there.
have a good weekend.

14 October 2005
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sunflower_sue (Anonymous) says…

On topic…always glad for a few less cars in town.

Now, speaking of Memorial stadium, and therefore, of “the hill”…I went on a field trip w/ 150+ 6th graders today who were made to line up perpendicular to the hill and walk down (bare handed) and collect trash. How many, I wonder, had to pick up a condom? Just wondering 'cause I walked around Free State HS last night and had to sidestep more than once. (At least they are being safe, right?) Purell, anyone???
14 October 2005
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Ceallach (Anonymous) says…

thunderbuns: I read your earlier post, I have no idea why it was deleted. Just today there have been many other posts that seem to be more edgy than yours. But that is life on the ljw board. The staff alloweth and the staff deleteth, love live the staff :) I myself joined the “deleted ones” recently, my post was pure as the driven snow — well — nearly as pure as the driven snow. Hope you see this before it is deleted. One big “no, no” is to take the staff's name in vain :(
14 October 2005
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Ceallach (Anonymous) says…

oops — forgot to address the question :) I am not personally disappointed, that is true, but as a resident of Lawrence, I think it stinks that they are doing this to the local businesses. Revenue from such events helps take the edge off of dealing with the “other” side of doing business a college town. Lew is a hired gun, I expect nothing related to loyalty from him. I think too many people actually believe that the athletic department is still a functioning part of the university — I do not.
14 October 2005
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Ceallach (Anonymous) says…

IP: I'm a little surprised by your ire regarding the alledged incident between a police officer and one of your daycare mothers. One side of a story is seldom ever complete — I'm not taking the officer's side, just saying, if we can worry that Jason Rose may be innocent of the allegations, and this often comes up on the board — why is it so easy to assume that the officer did everything the mother alledges? I just think we shouldn't fry the guy from one person's description on an incident. Also, that person was frustrated because she was out of gas and running late. She may not have come to the same conclusions if she had been an uninvolved by-stander. Do you know if anyone else came to her assistance? Usually people are very good about stopping to help, especially if a woman is obviously expecting a child.
14 October 2005
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italianprincess (Anonymous) says…

No one stopped at all until she a friend drove by. Its cool, I'm not worried about and like you said……..its her story. I was just repeating what she had told me. One sided stories truely bite and until you hear both you are stuck.

Shes not going to do anything about it anyway, so it makes me kind of wonder you know. Who knows, its Friday and its been a long day.

Time to work the brain on benefit that is next Saturday, so have a great weekend everyone and hope to see you out there.
15 October 2005
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Ceallach (Anonymous) says…

e_m: I hope I didn't sound contentious when I posted to IP. I did not mean it to be that way at all. I think she is a great lady! Her efforts to help the victims of Katrina say a lot about her heart.