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What are you doing for Memorial Day?

Asked at Massachusetts Street on May 30, 2005

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Photo of Holly Cramer

“I’m grilling at my boyfriend’s house and maybe going camping.”

Photo of Jim Mahner

“Going over to my brother’s near Hoyt. We are probably just going to eat and visit, maybe play some badminton.”

Photo of Becky Setterstrom

“Staying home. My husband and I came up here to put flowers on his parents’ grave, and then we are driving home.”

Photo of Sharon Pontious

“I’m just visiting friends here in Lawrence that I haven’t seen in a while.”

Comments

GreenEyedBlues 9 years, 6 months ago

Yessiree Bob. A big pink fluffy snowman. Rooooaaarrr! =)

Richard Heckler 9 years, 6 months ago

Yes life is precious yet pay back for war may not prove to be the ultimate sacrifice. Saw this on another board and tracked down the source...food for thought.

http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2003/0503ward.html

This day like many has become much about commerce however 3 day holidays does promote the gathering of friends and sometimes family. Celebrating good friendships is healthy for ones state of mind.

Enjoy...

ms_canada 9 years, 6 months ago

merrill - read the article. It certainly paints a rather bleak picture of your country and your future.
I was talking to my son last evening about our goofy govenment and he remarked that "we only get the govenment that we deserve". If we are apathetic in our concern for the governance of our country, it is just what we can expect. We must voice our concern. We, here in Canada, are noted for our poor show of numbers at the election poles. It either means that we are quite content with the way the powers that be are running "our lives" or we think, as I have heard a number of people say, that we are helpless to make any changes. It is a worry, is it not? sunflower - did your sister make the translation. Perhaps her espanol is better than mine. Did I make any mistakes? I have not used that language for some time. I used to do translation work for Social Services and new immigrants to my city. But that was a while ago. I hope that you all have a nice Memorial Day. Don't eat too much barbeque!

ms_canada 9 years, 6 months ago

goatdog - it is good that you are going to remember the many Iraqi dead this day. But also remember the many that were slaughtered by Saddam and his cohorts. Remember the gas rained down on the Kurds. Remember the pictures of the burning oil wells in Kuwait (that were, incidently, extinguished by experts from my province of Alberta) Remember the shoeless Iragi soldiers surrendering at the end of the Gulf war. There is a lot to remember this day. You are too anal retentive. Loosen up, guy. Examine your life and find out what causes you so much anger. And don't tell me it is people like me. Some wise man once told me, "it is not so much our actions that betray us, it is our re-actions". Have a nice day.

Richard Heckler 9 years, 6 months ago

I believe comments by Goatdog are valid. I'm not sure how killing Iraqi people is keeping us free in fact it may be quite the contrary. This war is making a lot of people angry at our government. Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 as has been concluded many times according to mainstream sources.

The majority of those 9/11 culprits were representing Saudi Arabia. A very recent report has identified a large number of insurgents are also from Saudi Arabia have joined Iraq insurgents. Yet we continue to have our sights on Iran(large oil reserves),Iraq(large oil reserves) and Syria.

Now it is not so strange that native people will stand up to defend their country if they feel an invasion has taken place. Technically we were not invaded. 9/11 was a mass murder such that we have not encountered in our lifetime. It should have been treated as such however the murderers committed suicide.

We should have limited our focus to the co-conspirators...instead we have diverted our resources to a country that did not declare war much less invade our borders.

Innocent american soldiers are being killed daily. Innocent american citizens may bear the brunt of the stupid decision to invade Iraq. Putting it simply those who made the decision are surrounded by tight security and likely will be for the rest of their lives...not within reach. However you and I are within reach everyday as are americans who travel abroad.

Too many innocent people are being killed daily...meanwhile bin Laden lives on. This administration very very recently has authorized military and/or weapons to non-democratic countries with creeps as leaders. Nobody is paying for this except the american taxpayer. The radio report noted many of these receivers own certain natural resources.

Now back to the original question... I'll be doing yard work,walking the dogs and other household chores. The temperature is outstanding.

Richard Heckler 9 years, 6 months ago

It cannot be you that creates the anger of this war. You enage in civil discourse while not always agreeing. It's good you are on the planet.

The problem with our government...too many voters stay home rather than realize it's the only way to change if that's in fact what anyone is seeking. I think the zoo like campaigns turn voters off...all the more reason to vote.

Grammaton 9 years, 6 months ago

Wearing my old dress uniform today in honor of those who were lost.

crohan1978 9 years, 6 months ago

One thing that a lot of you seem to forget is that the 9/11 commission, yes, did not find any connections between 9/11 and Iraq, but however did fine many connections between Al Queda and Iraq. I am not saying that this means Iraq had anything to do w/ 9/11, but Iraq was a threat to us as long as they were going to harbor terrorists that were after us. Together, no good could come from their relationship, and you are naive to think that if we left Saddam in power, that nothing would have happened in regards to him coordinating another attack on us, Israel, or any of other interests around the world.

Richard Heckler 9 years, 6 months ago

Ms. Canada It cannot be you that creates the anger of this war. You enage in civil discourse while not always agreeing. It's good you are on the planet.

The problem with our government...too many voters stay home rather than realize it's the only way to change if that's in fact what anyone is seeking. I think the zoo like campaigns turn voters off...all the more reason to vote.

sunflower_sue 9 years, 6 months ago

ms-canada, my sis' spanish is somwhat better than mine and we deciphered that you were wishing me, hubby, and kids a good night and a prosperous tommorrow, etc.... Thanks. (I meant to buy a new Spanish dictionary when I was out that night shopping for my niece's b. day, but forgot.) When I do get one (since I doubt I'll actually find my old one) I'll translate it properly.

Q of the day: Spent yesterday with my Mom, all my siblings, and their kids. Will spend today with all my hubby's family. Hubby cooked breakfast, kids are getting along, temperature outside is gorgeous. Life is good!

Although I do visit the cemetaries, I don't put too much stock into going for "Memorial Day". I choose to remember passed loved ones in my heart and head. I do visit my Dad's grave since he died just after my 2nd b.day and don't have any memories of him. He served in the Navy (non wartime). Died when he was just a baby at 33! (Back then, ASBESTOS wasn't the dirty word it is now. Too bad!)

I'm gonna go enjoy another day of life, so......Wishing you all a very wonderful day! (Even you, goatdog!) When feeling sad, put on Louis Armstrong's "What a Wonderful World" and hit [REPEAT] Works every time!

happygolucky 9 years, 6 months ago

I'm going to grill, hang out with my Grandparents and other family members who can drag themselves over, and enjoy the ones still around. Talk about those who have passed away, and be thankful for today. Maybe play yard darts, who knows.

Everybody have a great day, and buckle up, Johnny Law Dog will be out in force today. Nothing ruins a day faster than a ticket or a wreck.

ms_canada 9 years, 6 months ago

sunflower - you and your sis got it right except for feliz being prosperous, I meant happy. Hope you have a happy day, this day of remembrance.

merrill - I must say that you make many valid points. I am glad that you are on this planet.

Fangorn 9 years, 6 months ago

Extreme_makeover: I'm not sure there were any candidates who had any real concern for our borders. Too many on the left have no regard for our integrity as a sovereign nation. Too many on the right care more for the cheap labor open borders provide than for the security it compromises. Rep. Tom Tancredo of Colorado is one of the few voices in Washington who cares about this issue.

i_tching: Bush declared Saddam's intentions a "grave and gathering" threat, not an immediate one. Disagree with his decisions if you will, but please try to disagree with what his actual position was, not the straw dog you've set up. / No passage of the Bible supports your assertions that all people are part of the "Body of Christ". Muslims most certainly would disagree with your statement. And a few of the Muslim "insurgents", unlike Christians, would probably cut your head off for saying so.

Hong_Kong_Phooey 9 years, 6 months ago

Way to go, guys. It's Memorial Day and you spend it bickering. There are soldiers in Iraq reading these very posts and, while they are risking their lives, you are sitting here calling them murderers of "innocent" Iraqi civilians. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

ms_canada 9 years, 6 months ago

i_tching - you and fangorn are both right in a sense. Jesus Christ did die for the sins of all mankind. But all mankind are not in the "Body of Christ" Never mind the select republican friends. The body of Christ, meaning His church, His universal church, that is, no particular denomination invented by man, is made up of those who have accepted that Christ died to pay for their sins. Those who have then accepted Him as their Savior and made Him the Lord of their life. From there a saved person goes on to attempt to live their life in obedience to His commands. And to top it all off, we are not on our own, we have the counsel and guidance of God's Holy Spirit. We believe that there is no way on earth that we can achieve eternal life on our own. We need the saving grace of Jesus Christ. The meaning of grace is 'unmerited or undeserved favor" Christ died for me while I was yet a sinner. Not to say that I am now sinless. I call myself a sinner saved by the grace of God. i_tching, you asked for it when you made your remarks and I'll not apologize for the sermon. This is what we call the gospel, the good news, in a nut shell.

Hong_Kong_Phooey 9 years, 6 months ago

I_tching - you are an idiot. Your assertion that you have never blamed the soldiers is like the idiots that say "guns don't kill people, people kill people". The President may have ordered them there, but the trigger doesn't pull itself. If you don't respect the mission then you can't respect those that are performing the mission.

Fangorn 9 years, 6 months ago

GreenEyedBlues: I can't tell you how amusing I found it for someone to be able to say "Yessiree Bob" and mean it quite literally!

Jane: While Memorial Day does honor WWII vets, along with veterans of all the wars throughout our history, it actually started after the War Between the States as a way of remembering the fallen on both sides of the conflict. And yes, I remember Hitler (well not personally but in a historic way). I shutter to think how our world would look had he conquered Europe as he intended. Would we have any meaningful concept of "freedom" if those WWII soldiers, sailors, and Marines hadn't risen to the task to stopping him?

ms_canada 9 years, 6 months ago

ee ching - if you expected to get a rise out of me, you will be disappointed. I took not offense from you words directed at me. I had hoped that you would understand, but you have obviously hardened your heart and I can only trust that some day you WILL understand.
I believe that you are probably very young or if you are older, you have been hurt by someone at some time in your life. Save your pity for someone else, I don't need it. What bitter and angry words you express. There is absolutely nothing, nothing political about the kingdom of Jesus Christ.

Fangorn 9 years, 6 months ago

"You cannot claim that Jesus died for the sins of all and then relegate salvation to your own select club of true-believers"

For God so loved the world (all people) that He gave his only Son, that whoever believes in Him (true-believers) should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16

There are many other passages, i_tching, that support this doctrine. The sacrificial death of the Messiah was sufficient to pay for the sins of all mankind. But one must accept Him as Savior to be cleansed of sin.

That if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. Romans 10:9

If you're going to make assertions about Christian doctrine and views, please cite passages of Scripture that support your view. I don't think you're stupid any more than I believe I'm a "Christian pig". But when you opine about what Christians should or shouldn't believe or about what is or is not the Gospel, I would be interested to know the basis for your opinion.

GreenEyedBlues 9 years, 6 months ago

"There is absolutely nothing, nothing political about the kingdom of Jesus Christ."

Politics and religion ideally should be isolated from one another. The GOP had the very clever idea to hijack the Christian faith to appeal to everyone who believes in Jesus Christ, claiming their way is God's way. Now anyone who doesn't support Iraqi invasions is labeled as UN-Christian and UN-American.

When I hear the word "Christian", I tend to tense up. Really. I can't understand how people can raise so much hell on earth in the name of the Lord. That's why I haven't been to church in almost five years. Not to mention the fact that anyone who truly believes God's word would also agree that I'm an abomination.

XO, Godless Sodomite

ms_canada 9 years, 6 months ago

green eyes - on the political bit. I was responding to ee chings remark about the gospel being political clap trap. I f your politicians want to bring their religion into the political field, it does not mean that the kingdom of God is political. But ok, let's look at it from a political view. ee ching accused christians of being an exclusive club for themselves only. Suppose I wanted to become a citizen of your country. I would apply and I presume that I would have to be approved and I would then have to take some oath, am I correct? Now suppose you (generic you) wanted to become a citizen of God's kingdom. There is something that you would have to do also and it is a whole lot simpler than becoming a US citizen. All you have to do is accept Christ as your Savior and make Him Lord of your life. That is it. Simple. Of course you have to be sincere and acknowledge that you are a sinner and are repentant. Maybe not so simple for some. This "club" is not exclusive. It is open to ALL sinners. Don't like that word? Are you perfect? I sure as shootin' am not perfect and I was not perfect when Christ died for me.(and you and ee ching) Jesus said, "Behold, I stand at the door and knock, if anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with him and he with me" Rev. 3:20 Why does He say eat? Is eating not a very social thing to do? A very companionable activity? Gee, I am getting to sound a bit preachy. Better sign off

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