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Do you think that not spending any money on Jan. 20 will send a message to the Bush administration?

Asked at Checkers, 2300 Louisiana St. on January 13, 2005

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“No. I think it is a good effort, but I don’t think the Bush administration is very responsive to the public. It sounds like a good cause though. I think I’ll participate.”

Photo of Ronnell Jackson

“No. You already know that the Bush administration is going to do whatever they want. One day isn’t going to prove anything.”

Photo of Judy Cook

“No. It’s just for one day. I think it would just hurt the little people who are doing their jobs that day.”

Photo of Dorcella Rowland

“I don’t think so. It’s too small. There are so many things they have to deal with right now. I don’t think they will pay any attention to this.”

Comments

Richard Heckler 9 years, 11 months ago

I would say do it to the large corporations like Dillons/Krogers, Wal-mart, Target, Gap, Chipotle and other chain cafe's. Shop Cottins, The Merc, Yarn Barn, Raven, Round Corner, Slimmers, Zen Zero, Drakes, Z's, Rick's etc.

remember_username 9 years, 11 months ago

Hey, consumer1, why do you hate Walmart? Not that I disagree, I'm just looking for the common ground. Walmart is hardly run by left leaning people, so what's the beef?

samlord 9 years, 11 months ago

People will hardly notice if they notice at all. The Bushies don't notice much, even when they're paying attention. Dimes don't mean diddly to people with millions.

mrcairo 9 years, 11 months ago

I like the idea of putting those little magnetic yellow ribbons on my SUV that says Support the Troops.

Meanwhile I'm driving around getting 2 miles to the gallon after all the troops are over there because of all the Weapons of Mass Destruction.

And we should HONOR the lives of the TROOPS by driving these gas guzzling terrorst supporting SUV's.

So I think on innaguration day I'm going to go trade in my hybrid gas-saving car for a new great big SUV that gets like 2 miles to the gallon to HONOR Haliburton.

Mission Accomplished !!!

Liberty 9 years, 11 months ago

Instead of not spending money for a day, or putting "support our troops" yellow ribbons on the back of cars while doing nothing to bring them back; put a yellow ribbon on that says: "Bring Em Home"

There is no better message or way to support our troops than to say that we want them protected and safely back home instead of fighting the Elite Globalist war in Iraq.

There should be an uproar from the people the next time Congress wants to give away it's responsibility to the President for an undeclared war. Congress must be forced to debate publicly to gain the approval and backing of the public for any war and vote to declare war and not "authorize" a war with a simple majority vote and hand over undeclared war declaration powers to the President (This makes the President a King and not a President with checks and balances). Congress needs to return to obeying the Constitution. The Constitution is the chain that can control them if the people will wake up and enforce it.

Bad_Brad 9 years, 11 months ago

Even if these people choose not to spend any cash out of pocket on the 20th, guess what? They still effectively spent money if they live in a house (or a townhome or an apartment), run an air conditioner or heater (or electric lights), use hot water (or use any water), drive a car to/from work or school. Seriously, this is one of the stupidest ideas I've ever heard.

dubbledownbku 9 years, 11 months ago

"I say we create mass chaos on January 20" - some dumb Democrat. You demo's are all pathetic. All you can do is bitch and moan about Kerry losing the election. Protest all you want since it seems to make you all feel better about yourselves, but remember that we Republicans always have the last laugh. I'll enjoy spending money on January 20th at every big chain store I can make it to. What's best about this, is that I'm sure Prez Bush reads things like this and laughs his ass off at how pathetic you all are. He's president, so learn to deal with it and if you can't deal with it, get out of America.

craigers 9 years, 11 months ago

If I need something on the 20th, I will buy something on the 20th. This really is a silly idea and question, but I think this question merely tries to get political debate on this forum. I expected more conversation here today since the question was aimed at President Bush. In fact, I might even contribute $20 to the inagural ball for the President and then he can spend $40,000,020 on this shin-dig. Have fun at the ball Bush and don't worry about the crybabies in Lawrence. They are going to lead the way and donate all of their money to families in need and live off nothing themselves just because they are that kind of people. Yeah right. Spend away on the 20th.

tell_it_like_it_is 9 years, 11 months ago

Not only will I stay away from shopping I plan to wear all black too. Will it do any good? Hell no. The man could care less about the American people and what they think.

remember_username 9 years, 11 months ago

I think it is a good idea, in general, not necessarily in protest. People should get used to the idea of not spending money, because soon (under the Bush administration), they will have no money to spend.

Redneckgal 9 years, 11 months ago

Personally I go out of my way every chance I get not to spend money at Wal-Mart. Even if it means paying a little more somewhere else.

ms_canada 9 years, 11 months ago

What a silly idea! Do you non-spenders really believe that Bush and gang are going to be affected in the least way by your act of protest? They have the backing of 51+% of you yanks. They couldn't give a rats @$$ what the rest of you think. They don't give a hoot what the rest of the world thinks either. And you Democrats have only yourselves to blame for not speaking up more before the election. Too bad you didn't have a better candidate than John Kerry. That's the way the cookie crumbles and now you just have to live (or die) with it. This whole situation puts me in mind of the Babylonian Empire, the Persian Empire, the Greek Empire and then the Roman Empire. Each fell to the next in line. Then we had the British Empire. What happened to it? Is America to be the next Empire? History should tell you something. It is always about greed and expansionism. GREED, GREED, GREED.

Jay_Z 9 years, 11 months ago

You whiny liberals....get over it, you LOST the election. The President received more votes than any other candidate in HISTORY!! How about you lefties do something "productive" like protest the war on Mass. Street or hang out with the "Honk for Hemp" dude on Mass.? This idea for the 20th shows how pathetic the liberal cause is. Have fun.

Haymaker 9 years, 11 months ago

Just out of curiosity, which supports terrorism more: An SUV that gets poor mileage, or your hippy friend's smack habit?

BunE 9 years, 11 months ago

Once again the ignorance of the right comes to a head. The president got 52% of the vote, did you know that johnson scored in the 60th percentile? Now THAT WAS A LIBERAL!!! Fight a war and fight poverty. Well one out of two ain't bad, here we have a pres who can fight a war and fight the poor...again one out of two.

Why do you even try to act like you are in the know. GW campaigned on a platform a fear and ignorance, fawning over the likes of you! You cower in your cellars holding your handgun close as you protect your possessions. You are afraid of arabs, of mexicans and of the french. Get it together man! This is America.

The right has become as arrogant and clumsy in 10 years as the left had become in 40. You will soon wither and die and reason will once again spread across this great land.

Fear not free thinkers, this darkness will subside as fast as it spread.

Pathetic. The right has just become...so...pathetic. My god, what would Ayn Rand say?

missmagoo 9 years, 11 months ago

this is the stupidest idea ever..

btw consumer1, starbucks does not support the war or the bush administration

tell_it_like_it_is 9 years, 11 months ago

I got news for you ms_canada he don't even give a ****what the 51% that voted for him think. Along as he got back in office. He took their fear and used it to his benefit to get re-elected. Most of 'em were scared they were gonna burn in hell is they didn't vote vote for him.

Adam 9 years, 11 months ago

During the entire Bush adminstration, I haven't HAD any money to spend anyway, so the 20th shouldn't be a problem

Jay_Z 9 years, 11 months ago

Hey BunE, I said the President got the most votes in history, not the highest percentage in history (interestingly, Kerry got the second most ever, but still lost).

Geez, you're right....all of us republicans are hiding in our cellars because we are scared of arabs, mexicans, and the FRENCH. It is sad that you are that clueless BunE. Are you suffering from PEST? (Post Election Selection Syndrome) You should seek some help.

tell_it_like_it_is 9 years, 11 months ago

Just look around you at all the people you know for a fact are republicans. That tells you all you need to know. Dumb Dumb and Dumber yet!! And ignorant too boot. No wonder you can feed 'em anything and they'll vote the way you want em to. I admit to being a hick myself but at least I know when I'm getting a big old bunch of BS and thats just what ol' Georgie Pourgie is feeding everyone. Futhermore I think it really sucks that Dan Rather got in so much trouble over his report. I still don't think that paper was a forgery and even if it was I think the info contained in it was true and correct.

acg 9 years, 11 months ago

Wow, I haven't seen this much venom on the board in a while. It's funny how one simple little question can make everyone start name calling all over again. Here's what I wonder, for those of you that spout this unnecessary name calling, if you were to have a family member who felt differently than you, policitally, would you stand in their faces and call them these names? Would you stand in their homes and insult them? Would you say these things to your boss, spouse or preacher, if they had a differing opinion than yours? None of us is ever going to make this world better by treating each other with such blatant disrepect and disregard.

kansas 9 years, 11 months ago

acg, a while back you had a post that stated that a poster who went by the name of "me" was a friend of yours. Whatever happened to "me"? "me" hasn't posted here in a long while.....is "me" okay?

BunE 9 years, 11 months ago

Now merkin, must you curse to make a point?

Poppy production had been severly curtailed by the Taliban. That's news to you eh? Nice Job by the liberal media in covering that!

The inability of the central government to project power outside of Kabal is the problem. Now that they don't have enough Americans to secure the countryside, wait, we aren't very good at that in Iraq, why try it in Afghanistan...(Now is where you call me a traitor and say I don't support 'merica)

Just keep asking questions, I am here to educate...

Loving everybody!

BunE 9 years, 11 months ago

You can keep score all you want. The Republicans are Minutes away from splitting apart at the seams. You can't keep jesus freaks and neocons and moderate thinkers on the same page forever! enjoy it while you can.

The more things change the more they stay the same.

jonas 9 years, 11 months ago

I don't know, con1, the people who protest the big stores are more likely the ones going to Henry's or Java Break or Miltons than Starbucks. The Starbucks crowd seems (to use gross generalization) to consist of of the, I don't know, I'd guess you could call them the limosine liberal crowd, as well as the slightly more affluent college kids.

To answer the question: bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

"Look at me, I'm sending a message to the Administration! What that message might be, I couldn't tell you, but I'm sure they'll be able to understand it!"

Political philosophical question: Which came first, the gloating, inflexible conservative, or the whining, disenfranchised liberal?

The problem that I see with politics is that there are too many people concerned with delivering, promoting or recieving messages in general, not to mention mandates, agendas etc. The end result being, apparently, the viewpoint that a small majority (such as, say, 2 more people out of every hundred) provides you with a total 100% validation or invalidation of an entire segment of the population and every viewpoint that they hold. Could someone tell me when we started thinking that anything could ever be that simple? Was it after the first election? 9/11? The gays started getting married? Bah!

Liberty 9 years, 11 months ago

The administration laughs when they see the people argue with each other over right and left issues instead of take action with the chains of the Constitution.

jonas 9 years, 11 months ago

Sorry, got a little carried away there. The horrid exaggeratory rhetoric and veiled insinuations of emminent destruction and decay just nettle me sometimes.

Jay_Z 9 years, 11 months ago

Tell_it_like_it_isn't--

You said republicans are "dumb and ignorant to boot." Wow, you can call us names....you're such a great thinker. That's just like you dems, arrogant and you think no one is smarter than you. Dan Rather should have been fired. You don't think the documents were a forgery, but even if they were you think the info in them was true? If you hadn't heard, many people have proven those documents were forgeries. CBS had an agenda to push that story (despite the fact many people questioned the truth behind the story) and that agenda was to get Bush out of office--every unethical for a "news" agency. Your argument makes absolutely no sense and shows me there is no logic to your thinking.

Redneckgal 9 years, 11 months ago

rememeber_username: I can tell you I hate Wal-Mart because of what they did to my downtown. I live in Ottawa and I can remember the day when you could spend the whole day downtown. There was Woolworths Penneys and any other number of other mom and pop places. Now we have a few nice places but not very many and they struggle to make it. Also we had at least 7 grocery stores and now we are down to 2. One of them is real good and one of them is Wal-Mart where they sell "surprise meat" you have to kind of wonder whats in that hamburger. I won't buy the stuff. They messed up our town and then after they ran almost everyone out there prices increased and there service decreased a lot.

pencer863 9 years, 11 months ago

I'm always amused to hear Bush believers tell those who aren't believers that they should get over the election loss, stop whining, etc. Based on what I've seen, so-called liberals have handled the loss with a lot more maturity and intelligence than the folks who threw a tantrum for 8 years when Clinton was President. And some of them are still figuring out ways to blame him for whatever problems the Bush administration faces or creates.

Just imagine how the Republicans would have reacted had Kerry won. Yeah, right, they just would've moved on without fussing.

Basically, those of us who oppose Bush can and will express our dissent as we see fit, not as our opponents would like. If it irritates them, so much the better. They can go "chase" themselves, to paraphrase Dick Cheney, sort of.

The consumer boycott is a good idea. A general strike would be better, but so far most Americans don't feel they have it bad enough to take that action. Maybe they'll awake one day, but I won't hold my breath.

Redneckgal 9 years, 11 months ago

Hey Merkin the trucks a 94 and you can bet your a it ain't no Ford its a Chevy!! Theres 3 kids and guess what you smart a they all got the same Dad. And we've been married a little over 20 years. As for the gene pool...well I've seen some of the folks you got up there and I don't think I'd even go there if I were you.

BunE 9 years, 11 months ago

You can't protect America cowering in cellars. Look past your driveways. You can see me on patrol...with my guns...I am the one hunting PESTs. Especially ones that think the most votes in history is a big deal when we have the most people living in this country in history!

As far as news agencies and ethics. For shame. If you think that CBS cares who the president is you are insanely naive. They wanted ratings and when they got caught, they got 'em. The Media is controlled be a few mega corporations interested only in stock value. News!? Hah, the media outlets are afraid to show the dead of Bush's Folly and the Dead of the tsunami, "it's unseemly..." give me a break We are grown ups, if you don't like reality than go back down in the cellar and cower.

News!? how about this...The Afgani's had an election, Karzai won, but he can't leave Kabul. "Thank you Mr. Bush for invading my country, destroying the taliban, crippling Al Quaida and then leaving so that The Poppy can flourish and I can't leave my compound. Mission Accomplished!"

Oh, I feel better now.

kansas 9 years, 11 months ago

Gee, Merkin, no one can accuse you of being blatantly stereotypical, huh? And the mean-spiritedness of your post was put a wonderfully subtle sort-of-way! I applaud you!

Liberty 9 years, 11 months ago

A great quote to ponder from the President:

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."

jonas 9 years, 11 months ago

kansas: The question is whether we can take Merkin's posts at face value. Would a legitimate poster have really said "I can deal with that as long as we can bomb more brown people?"

captain_poindexter 9 years, 11 months ago

Hey Libs:

SCORE BOARD!

President: Republican Senate: Majority House: Strong Majority Supreme Court: Dang, you got it, but not for long... Teachers: Dang, you got it

Oh well, I guess 3 out of 5 isn't bad. It's good to be the king.

And by the way, the fact that the folks we are fighting has nothing to do with whether they are brown or not. They cannot be negotiated with, that's why we bomb them. (See Northern Ireland & the IRA Terrorists)

captain_poindexter 9 years, 11 months ago

And before you freak out, we are DEFENDING "brown people" as well.

acg 9 years, 11 months ago

Me's hubby was tferred to FL. Her fam moved about two months ago

kansas 9 years, 11 months ago

Okay.....I'm not really sure what insulting the people of Ottawa has to do with today's question.....But if you insist, Merkin, then continue insulting others. Does it make you feel better, somehow? Is this how you get your jollies? How old are you, anyway? 13? 14?

Whatever.

Charlie Bannister 9 years, 11 months ago

Hey Redneckgal, I love ya!! Don't pay any attention to Merkin, he knows it all - NOT!!!!

Was reading today's forum question and knew it would bring a lot of incredible political commentary from all of the regulars that write here.

I am not going to say anything political today. But I am going to say that I went out and spent about $1500 at four different local merchants, just to spread the wealth around some. When I was out, it looked to me like business was doing pretty well everywhere I went.

I could not think of a better day to spend my money. I enjoyed it so much I made some more shopping plans for tomorrow.

captain_poindexter 9 years, 11 months ago

Yeah, I like to keep score. And the score I keep continues to increase away from liberal thinking.

As for the Republican split, that's a valid argument. But one thing Republicans all have in common is that they enjoy the arena of ideas. Republicans are not stuck in 1930's or the 1960's. Just like the prior administration failed to see the threat posed by terrorism, liberals also fail to see the opportunities and possibilities of ALL Americans.

I am worried about the Republican split, like it has split in Kansas politics. But I know, nationally, Republicans will stick together.

But keep calling people names, keep calling "red-staters" hicks, keep calling us stoopid (sic), keep revealing yourselves to the American people because that is what will keep you out of leadership.

mrcairo 9 years, 11 months ago

Good question Haymaker. I bet there are more SUV's in Lawrence than Heroin addicts. SUV's get their power from gasoline, which is derived from oil, which is provided to us mostly by the Saudi Government. 17 of the 19 Hijackers were Saudi Nationals. I don't think Saudi Arabia is a producer of Heroin.

(Just out of curiosity, which supports terrorism more: An SUV that gets poor mileage, or your hippy friend's smack habit?)

Charlie Bannister 9 years, 11 months ago

Amen captain_poindexter!!! I failed to mention in my previous posting that I have talked my wife, two sisters, my parents, and three of my friends into committing to shop for big ticket items next Thursday. The economy is heating up, jobs continue to be created, and the positive thinkers among us are off to the races!! Long live capitalism!!!

BunE 9 years, 11 months ago

Oh, and spend no money on the 20th? What an empty gesture.

How about SEND a charity SOME money on the 20th?

captain_poindexter 9 years, 11 months ago

I just can't leave this post, especially after that last one. Hilarious....vigils, dances, protests, et. al.

I really mis KU. The elderly, 1960's, throw-back folks that just can't get over the fact that they are not in the majority anymore and that protesting just doesn't work.

Dems need to work on the grassroots...focusing on knuckle-head 18 year olds to vote for them will not work. You have to be persuasive or else you lose.

Or...keep doing what you are used to doing, and keep losing and losing and losing and losing....

BunE 9 years, 11 months ago

El Capitan is right. don't call the red-staters hicks. Merkin is calling Ottawa folks toothless (well he said thooth-less). Please stop it.

I am concerned: how does one "increase away from liberal thinking"

Republicans enjoy the Arena of Ideas? Hey, I enjoy the arena of ideas, Here is an idea! lets demonize the dems by telling everybody that they are in the way of our President's judicial nominations. but what ever you do, don't tell anyone that they have gone along and confirmed 89% of them so far. This might reveal us for the arrogant n'er do wells that we are. THANK YOU BILL FRIST!

Republicans ignore Ideas of others and tell us what to think. At least the bleeding heart wants us all to have a meal. Just like the current administration refuses to plan out the wars they wage, conservatives want to hold on tight to the past instead of looking forward.

The Republicans will split. I say bring back the whigs or the do nothings.

I love you captain. I love the rednecks and soft hand liberals.

I love Jesus and Krishna and Allah as well ( Might as well hedge my bets)

Finally I love 'merica.

Charlie Bannister 9 years, 11 months ago

Okay, now you did it BunE. I said I would not say anything political today, but I have to respond. Are you kidding? You say conservatives want to hold onto the past instead of looking forward. Well, it is true that principles never change and values shouldn't either. But beyond that, I submit to you that Republicans ARE the party of new ideas and change. Who has promoted a plan for energy, both looking for new resources and developing hydrogen vehicles? Who is trying to save Social Security so it will be there for us when we retire? Who is trying to enact tort reform to save us all from these ridiculous lawsuits? Who is trying to get qualified judges who interpret the law instead of trying to be an activist, appointed to our federal courts? Who is trying to simplify our gargantuan, lethargic, initiative killing tax code? I could go on and on with this. It is none other than the Republican Party.

Did you happen to hear the lion of liberalism, Senator Kennedy yesterday? Read his entire speech. He wants more of the same old tired progressive ideas that caused the Dems to take a bath in November. And I hope and pray that the Dems keep falling for that, so we will just keep kicking a** in the future and taking this country forward.

Charlie Bannister 9 years, 11 months ago

Nice one Merkin! I also hear that when Bill Clinton visits town, the dry cleaning business on dresses increases. Who said the Clinton's were bad for the economy?

mr_daniels 9 years, 11 months ago

Will be trading in the Silverado for a new '05 4x4. Was going to trade in that weekend, but what the hay, the 20th is as good a day as any! Wonder if those widdle wefties will boycott the drug pushers out there? mr_cairo, back from Canaduh already? All you GOP folks out there keep up the good work!

ms_canada 9 years, 11 months ago

Heh! Did someone put something in the water down there today. I don't remember seeing so many silly posts in one day before. Oh, well, I guess you were all having a lot of fun. If the nasty stuff could just be kept down a bit it would be nice.

Jay_Z 9 years, 11 months ago

Merkin, that was hilarious!!! I think I'll stay away from that Hillary value meal though....might contain some wacky liberal ingredients.

Kosmo, you are right on! Republicans are the ones calling for changes (social security reform, tort reform, energy development, and so on) to make this a better country. The liberal agenda makes this country worse off: a call for more government control over our lives, radical judges, more UN, and so on. Democratic ideas are so far out of the mainstream and so backward its kinda sad....but its also funny to see the democratic party try to "figure out" why they aren't connecting with the people.

BunE, you are sadly mistaken if you think CBS and the other "mainstream" news (nbc, abc, ny times, etc) didn't want Kerry to win. You either didn't watch the news/read the papers or slept through the entire campaign/election!! Hope you get over your case of PEST and happy shopping on the 20th!!!

Punkin 9 years, 11 months ago

If you want to boycott the Inaugural, take a stand and protest Bush's ascention.

At 11 AM, Thursday January 20th, at Strong Hall on the KU Campus, there will be a rally against the Bush Administration. Bring your signs, your noisemakers, your friends and your voice. Shout a loud NO--turn your back on the Bush Agenda!

At sundown on the 20th, I've heard there will be a candlelight vigil at the court house. Come on down!

I have also heard there will be a commiseration anti-inaugural dance the evening of the 20th at the Depot in north Lawrence. Posters are up about town.

Join in the anti-inaugural spirit! Protest! Let your friends and neighbors--and the Bush cronies--know you don't support their goals.

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