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Do you think teen fashion trends have become too revealing?

Asked at Borders, 700 N.H. on August 26, 2005

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“Most definitely. I believe it dishonors the girl’s integrity and self-esteem. It also provides an unnecessary distraction for young men in a school environment.”

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“Probably so. There doesn’t seem to be any dress codes or regulations on what they wear in school. I’d say it’s quite a bit too revealing.”

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“If it was my daughter, I wouldn’t want her dressing that way, but I guess every girl goes through a phase where they want to dress like that.”

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“Yes and no. I think you can be attractive without being so revealing, but I think girls feel that they get more attention if they are more revealing. I do think the skirts are getting a little too short.”

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daddax98 9 years, 4 months ago

con bread...ain't nothing wrong wit dat

OK bed time.

lunacydetector 9 years, 4 months ago

it all goes back to madonna dressing like a woman of ill repute. that hoochie look. girls shouldn't be dressing like that, and boys shouldn't be dressing in underwear revealing baggy jeans/or that columbine black trench coat (that goes for girls too).

what's the story about this 646 pound catfish? it isn't the story from thailand is it? that's old news.

Richard Heckler 9 years, 4 months ago

It's between the parents and the children. I am assuming parents are footing the bill for the clothing and young women sometimes shop with Mom so what's the big deal. Short skirts/dresses have been around at least 40 years.

The young males must be taught at home by both parents that women like to be comfortable which does not mean that sex is on their mind.

Now I'll read the article. Trends are sometimes set by famous people.

GreenEyedBlues 9 years, 4 months ago

I don't think they're any more revealing than when I was a lad. Which isn't saying a lot, but still.

Girls think that they have to show skin to get attention are conditioned to believe that they have to dress that way. Surprise! I am offering television, movies, and magazines as the sacrificial scapegoat for the day.

I can't think of where else young girls might find those types of role models. Once they hit college, a select few decide to carry out their habit of wearing skimpy this or thats in public, sans the nuisance of their parents yelling "You're not wearing THAT" as they head out the door to class.

I'd like to think that it's a self-police system. Too often in my high school there would be instances where other girls would scoff at the revealing garb of their peers. Be it jealousy or the all-too-tempting eagerness to label that girl as a wh0re, you know it's bad news bikini tops when peers think the outfit is too skimpy.

italianprincess 9 years, 4 months ago

I guess you would say this is a girlie question today. I don't see any boys who wear revealing clothing.

I'm truely glad I don't have girls, because I would be a mom that wouldn't want her dressing to attract attention. Some girls dress a bit to revealing maybe because of low self esteem possibly. Its to bad that they don't think of themselves as beautiful inside also.

I was into the surfer look in junior high school back in the late 70's, so it was 501 blue jeans, and vans tennis shoes for me. Yes, I was a bit tom boyish back then. Dresses more like a girlie girl when I turned 15, but my mom never let me dress the way some girls dress today.

trueninetiesgirl 9 years, 4 months ago

i think that the majority of the clothes that are out there for are kids are to short and come on shorts up there cracks these are even for little little kids know wonder we have so many sex affenders. look at what they see are little kids wearing.and the problem is that they make almost every item the same to small or way to short.....

whosaid 9 years, 4 months ago

I sure wish people would learn basic punctuation and spelling before they decide to post comments. Some of these posts (trueninetiesgirl) are barely legible.

whosaid 9 years, 4 months ago

Matthew McGrory from Big Fish died a few weeks ago. I am still sad about that. Yahoo! news didn't even list him in the obituaries.

whosaid 9 years, 4 months ago

I don't lurk. I contribute comments to topics that I have an opinion about. I just don't see a reason to post a comment that can't be read.

craigers 9 years, 4 months ago

Yes, the clothes are too revealing. The skirts that even older people wear are bordering on showing the buttcheeks of girls. They don't have to show off so much skin to look great.

craigers 9 years, 4 months ago

Maybe we should have a citizen review board on teen fashion.

trueninetiesgirl 9 years, 4 months ago

hay whosaid i don't really care what you think. i still think, that the childrens clothes are way to short, and that is what we are talking about not the way i spell or punctuate a sentence.

Genetic02 9 years, 4 months ago

I think the claim that the clothing styles being worn by teens and younger children are "too revealing" is inaccurate. Too revealing, to me, suggest that an area of the female's or male's body, typically regarded as private, is clearly visible. For instance, while some may consider their midsection to be private, it seems that the majority of people do not or at least wouldn't be offended by seeing one. Parents would probably be more comfortable with their childrens' clothing styles, if they were certain that their children were mature enough to discern, themselves, between what was appropriate for various situations. A lot of parents, I'm sure, equate increasing age with increasing maturity levels, which is definitely not always the case. The exact opposite is definitely a possiblity. Some children are mature years beyond their actual age, even to the point of understanding that what they want to wear will not be preferred by everyone, but is 'okay' to wear as long as they are comfortable wearing it. Until children can demonstrate certain levels of maturity to their parents, I believe parents will continue to shield them from the criticism of others that can come, as a result of the clothes they choose to wear. In the event that parents are unable to protect their children this way, the school systems seem to have implemented plans to cut down on the amount of attention-gathering styles that could walk through school doors.

2.5 more hours of work to go!

acg 9 years, 4 months ago

I don't know evenmoney, not to pick on trueninetiesgirl, but some people really just can't spell. My brother would write like that and he's 40. I want to grab him and shake him "how can you be 40 and not know the difference between there and their?!"

In answer to the ?, yes the clothes are way too skimpy. When I went shopping with a friend and her young daughters (12 & 8) last weekend I noticed that the clothes for kids that age are adult clothes, but shrunken. No 12 year old child needs to wear low rise pants. No 15 year old girl should be wearing a belly shirt and a band aid skirt to school, either. (I think I'm becomming an old fuddy duddy). I'm about the be the mom of a girl and when she gets older if she even tries leaving the house in that stuff she's going to get my foot so far up her a$$ she'll choke on it. When I was a teen my mom did suprise inspections at school. If we were wearing something that was on the inappropriate list when she got there, she'd knock the royal crap out of us in the hallway in front of all of our friends. It was thoroughly humiliating but I'm glad she did it. It maybe made the difference between me acting like I had some sense and acting like a little whore.

Ceallach 9 years, 4 months ago

e_m: Ahhaa, I always figured you were a riding crop kind of guy :)

nlf78 9 years, 4 months ago

There is no way my parents would've let me walk out the door wearing the clothes that kids wear today!! I'm scared to see how bad the clothes are by the time my daughter hits school. Even though she WON'T be wearing what most kids are, cool or not. I'm a mean mom ;)

mightyquin 9 years, 4 months ago

Teen fashion has always been about self expression and a little rebelion, influenced by the pop icons of the time. Remember when you were a teen and you argued with your parents about what you were wearing?. It may not have been revealing but it was probably not something they considered acceptable. Teens will always push the limits and with pop stars like Beyonce and Christina, the limits are getting way out there. My daughter just turned 13 and she tries to wear clothes that wouldnt cover an 8 year old. I do my best to pass on just a little bit of common sense to her but since she lives with her mom I have limited success.

enochville 9 years, 4 months ago

I agree with offtotheright that it has become difficult for girls to find cute outfits that are not revealing. The girls and women at my church always try to dress modestly, but I've heard them complain that a lot of stores that carry nice looking clothes, don't carry much that is modest. They do eventually find clothes that make them look good.

Genetic02 9 years, 4 months ago

Offtotheright:

I am not suggesting that anything goes, but what is offensive to one person may not be offensive to someone else. My point was that people who either choose to or are allowed to wear what is typically deemed inappropriate should also be prepared to endure the harsh criticisms that come along with it. Obviously showing pubic hair, breasts, and even genitalia is crossing the line.

Personally speaking, I never sagged my pants or wore anything that pushed the envelope on appropriate clothing when I was in highschool, college, or now. I do agree that some of the styles being worn are revealing more than I care to see, but who am I to tell someone what they can wear, especially when it can be purchased in any retail clothing store.

Ceallach 9 years, 4 months ago

trueninetiesgirl: People may not like your post, but you are soooo right! My granddaughter is 8 years old. Because she comes from tall stock on both sides, she is often mistaken for a 10 to 11 year old. Buying clothes for her is always a tedious process. Going through rack after rack trying to find clothing, that does not make her look like an adolescent prostitute, is quite challenging. Most of today's little girls clothing is just smaller sizes of the teen scene clothing, which is modeled after the Hollywood, yes even Disney scene. None of which discards the notion that women and men's worth is measured by their ability to be sexually appealing.

mightyquin 9 years, 4 months ago

Thanks OTTR, in defence of my ex(which I hate doing btw), it isnt that she has no morals it is just that hers are different from mine in this respect. We have had some serious arguements over this issue.

squishypoet 9 years, 4 months ago

When I was in high school in Lawrence (only a couple of years ago) the only dress code rule I saw enforced was a rule against bandanas. You could wear them... but they couldn't be more than two inches wide. It was always great to sit down at lunch and look around and see 3 inches of thong above the pants of about half the girls at the tables around you. It was also great to walk up the stairs and be treated simultaneously to a view of a girl's thong AND her butt hanging out from the bottom of short shorts or a tiny skirt. Gross.

Linda Aikins 9 years, 4 months ago

Yes e_m, Goopsie has her clothes tattooed on!

oh no - ended the sentence with a preposition. Please don't tell me to stop posting! I'm only one person!!!

enochville 9 years, 4 months ago

One thing that helps the girls at my church want to wear modest clothing is that they are taught by their parents and Sunday School teachers why we want them to dress modestly. We believe that after we are baptized and confirmed we have a promise from God that if we keep his commandments we can have his Spirit to be with us always as a constant companion. We desire and have felt the peace and guidance and protection of the Spirit in our daily lives. In order to keep that Spirit we need to be modest in dress, speech, and behavior because God is that way and wants us to be like him.

Futhermore, as Paul says, "Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy" (1 Cor. 3:16-17). Our bodies are not our own, "for we are bought with a price; therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's" (1 Cor 6:19-20). We were given stewardship of our bodies at birth and will need to give God an accounting of how we used them. We will lose them at death and only God can restore us to them through the resurrection. Our bodies were made in the image of God and yet Adam and Eve knew that they should not be naked in His presence.

littleme 9 years, 4 months ago

when you confuse a 12 year old with a streetwalker.. you know it's gotten bad.

Ceallach 9 years, 4 months ago

My mother had a very strict rule involving the length of my skirts in high school. Before leaving the house I had to bend over and touch my ankles. If the skirt revealed too much in that position I could not wear it to school (although I rarely assumed that position while in school :) Thereby she was satisfied that I was not dressing like the "loose' girls. This left me little choice but to pass the test, go to school and roll my skirt up at the waist. Once girls are HS age it's too late to instill the self-image that will empower them to go their own way. Many have to learn it the hard way.

sunflower_sue 9 years, 4 months ago

I never argued with my Mom about clothes. I was forced to wear (under school guidelines) those sexy cheerleader outfits almost daily. When I did get to wear "normal" clothes...I wanted full coverage.

Let me take 2 minutes to bag on those kids who wear their jeans around their knees and their boxers (thank goodness they're not tighty whities) hanging out: What's up with that? Isn't that sooooooooooo over? STOP IT! You look like an idiot!

OK now, as for too revealing fashion: I don't think it comes from TV necessarily. My friend (who doesn't even own a TV) has a young daughter that loves to dress like a hooker. Why? I have no idea! And it isn't the clothes. She can go into anyone's closet and come up with a set of perfectly innocent clothing and somehow make them look "suggestive". And she's only 8. But, what does LJW mean by "revealing"? I'm taking it to mean "suggestive".

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beatrice 9 years, 4 months ago

craigers: "Maybe we should have a citizen review board on teen fashion." Quite funny!

Yes, clothing for youngsters are too revealing, for the girls and the boys. The low-riding pants worn below the cheeks with the boxers completely showing look on boys just makes me laugh.

Speaking of stupid looking clothing: grown women in "jumpers." Ugh. Nothing says "I've stopped trying" like a jumper. And jumpers in the winter, with the Burks and wool socks. NOOOOOO. Stop the madness. Come on ladies, we can do better.

sunflower_sue 9 years, 4 months ago

Now then, when I was newly married, taking life drawing classes and had to look at nude people all day, my sweet hubby greeted me at the door one day wearing his finest birthday suit. I told him that if he was trying to seduce me, he'd better go put some clothes on! There is only so much skin a person can look at in a day.

I don't know about Lawrence, but Tongie has a dress code: No spaghetti straps No shirts that show any belly skin Shorts have to come halfway to the knee, etc...

My girls are VERY contientious about what they wear to school (they are 11 and 9). Sometimes they will spill some breakfast on their shirt and I'll go and grab them another and they'll say: "I can't wear that, Mom. It shows my belly when I raise my hand." Good that they know better than Mom (right now, anyway.)

craigers 9 years, 4 months ago

Not to be rude enochville, but the only reason why Adam and Eve knew they were naked was because they were aware of sin after going against God's will and eating the forbidden fruit. There was nothing to be ashamed of and they didn't know they were naked until sin was in their life, it wasn't that they shouldn't be naked in His presence.

sunflower_sue 9 years, 4 months ago

blue harley, chandeliers! HA! now that's funny! eewe, though, what a mental picture!

craigers 9 years, 4 months ago

I have a question for all of the fashion gurus out there. Why would anybody pay full price for some of those little jackets that girls wear that don't even come down past their chest? Those things look uncomfortable let alone retarded. It is almost like their mom's shrunk their jacket and they are refusing to let it die.

sunflower_sue 9 years, 4 months ago

Ceallach, your story reminds me of one my Mom tells: She had to wear thick hose that came well up past her knees. As soon as she got behind the barn and out of eyeshot, she (and her sisters) would all roll them down to their ankles and go on to school! Oh, the shame of it all!

enochville 9 years, 4 months ago

craigers: You are right, I didn't elaborate on the whole story. I assumed people knew. I just skipped to the end of the story. When they were innocent, they didn't know any better, but once they gained some knowledge of good and evil after eating the fruit, they realized that they needed to cover themselves. There are many people today don't have a knowledge of good and evil and so think nothing is wrong with public nudity among other things. God expects us to teach our children and others what is right and what is wrong.

Liberty 9 years, 4 months ago

Well said enochville. Isn't it nice to know that the Father is always correct even on how we dress and present ourselves and commands it so that it always benefits us. (As there is always a built in penalty on the other side of the equation, if we do not follow His ways... A good lesson for the children of today to learn and respect.

mightyquin 9 years, 4 months ago

I know this is going to tick a few folks off but I would really like to know what part of the bible explains God's dress code? I know we should treat our bodies as temples but what exactly does that mean? I am not trying to be a jerk, this is a serious question. It has been a few years since I have read the bible, but I dont remember seeing anything about skirt length or showing navels and such.

italianprincess 9 years, 4 months ago

I don't know whats worse today.......

Mr Bush and the white house coming down on Lawrence over the pot issue here, or why teens dress the way they do these days?

Teens are going to dress how they want as long as the parent allows it. If the school has a problem, then they will inform the parent for a meeting to possibly solve the problem. Do boys really have a hard time with their school work when girls dress to revealing? I truely don't think Madonna had anything to do with how girls dress in today's society.

The pot matter is another thing. TOB made me laugh today with his coffee table post this morning. Not sure what to think about this issue.

Ceallach 9 years, 4 months ago

Guess what? I have three daughters, care to guess what their rule was for leaving the house in a skirt :):):) You got it! Bend over and see if it is long enough. I never doubted that they rolled them up on the way to school. They had their little rebellion thing going but a standard of acceptable clothing in public must have clicked with them. They are all grown and thankfully dress with some degree of modesty.

I am older than you TOB, no doubt. Here at KU the female skin fashion show never ends. I work at a desk, staff or students often come in and need to talk with me. I can't tell you how often I come this close to saying, "stand back, sit down, or stand up straight -- whatever it takes to get those things out of my face!!!! If I want to stare at breasts, hey, I'll just go to the restroom and stand in front of the mirror." While I'm sure some male staff may not share my weariness of the displays, I also think some are uncomfortable and they all should be on guard -- if they look too long they will be accused of harassment!!

enochville 9 years, 4 months ago

mightyquin: There may be some people who get ticked off at such questions, but you'll never tick me off with any question that is sincere. There are scriptures particularly in the New Testament that talk about clothes or men's hair, etc. But, they aren't very specific for modesty questions of our day and some scriptures I think were culture specific. We are not required to were Middle Eastern robes to be modest. There are at least two ways available to us to know what God considers modest for us in our day and culture. One is by listening to the still, small promptings of the Spirit. Another way is through modern prophets revealing God's word to us.

Here is the direction our prophet has given us: "Immodest clothing includes short shorts and skirts, tight clothing, shirts that do not cover the stomach, and other revealing attire. Young women should wear clothing that covers the shoulder and avoid clothing that is low-cut in the front or the back or revealing in any other manner. Young men should also maintain modesty in their appearance. All should avoid extremes in clothing, appearance, and hairstyle. Always be neat and clean and avoid being sloppy or inappropriately casual in dress, grooming, and manners. Ask yourself, "Would I feel comfortable with my appearance if I were in the Lord's presence?"

Do not disfigure yourself with tattoos or body piercings. If girls or women desire to have their ears pierced, they are encouraged to wear only one pair of modest earrings."

enochville 9 years, 4 months ago

even_money: I think that is excellent that your eldest daughter has that inner compass that points her in the right direction and she has the desire to follow it. I believe that is what I have also and that that should be a goal for all of us. I hope that I have never given you the impression that I disapprove of that.

We are always free to choose even in the presence of law or commandments. They point to the path of true, lasting peace and happiness in the big scheme of things and we are free to follow that path or not. Different kids respond to different motivations. And as God's children he has provided several sources of motivation for us, but we are still free to choose. Some civilizations become so corrupt that they have no concept of the peace and joy that can come to them by doing what is right. The only thing that speaks to them is the fear of something bad happening if they don't start doing what is right. Severe judgments also communicate how serious and important the commandment is. But, I believe it is the preference of God to train us up in righteousness through kind enticements and sincere love.

The idea in the first part of your question that "if I am going to sin, I might as well go all out" shows some incorrect assumptions. One, although some Christians disagree with me, there are various degrees in the seriousness of sin. Murder is at the top and adultery is second to it. The judgments for these sins are more severe than those for others and repentance is more difficult and takes longer to repent of adultery that for say cheating on a test.

So, it makes some sense to not to do the worst sin you can think of "Cause, hey, I've fallen from grace or going to hell, anyway." Even after you have accepted Christ as your Savior, you still will find occasion to have to repent of your sins. Even when we are motivated by love or because we know it is right, we still make mistakes or act against what we know is right because we are tempted or sometimes want instant gratification. No mortal perfectly lives up to what he or she knows is right.

I don't feel like my response is as clear as I'd like. If I didn't answer you, please restate your question.

Linda Aikins 9 years, 4 months ago

e_m that is so so so funny! I may get in trouble for laughing so hard!! thanks for sharing!

Carmenilla 9 years, 4 months ago

This reminds me of the cheerleader question that was asked months ago. What an interesting day that was!

My daughter is nine and thankfully a full-fledged tomboy. She has always preferred pants to skirts and funky t-shirts to halters and tanktops.

Also, we don't watch TV of any kind at our house. When my daughter is exposed (pun intended) to "pop tarts" like Britney and Jessica Simpson, I always try to use a little humor when addressing their look. I like to call the skirts "naval warmers" and things like that. My kid sees that type of clothing as a costume not an outfit she need to emulate. I tell her that people put waaaay too much focus on the perky parts of young women. Our nation seems to be obsessed with these scantily clad girls. Hopefully my daughter won't succumb to the pressure to conform in that way.

As she grows and develops, I try to teach her to have the utmost respect for her body. We try and stress that there is no need to grow up fast. Soon enough she will be a young woman and I won't have as much say in what she wears. Personally I'd rather she wears all black with a spiked bracelet than a "naval warmer" skirt and a bikini top. But I'm an old punk rocker....

blessed3x 9 years, 4 months ago

While in Home Depot this weekend, I had to redirect my children's attention away from a young woman squating to look at the lower shelf while wearing low-rise jeans and going "commando". It left nothing to the imagination. Looking nice and being attractive doesn't mean looking like a tramp. The only men that women are going to attract dressing like this are the ones they'll ultimately find they don't want.

But men are to blame also. While driving into work today, I heard a news story about the new "pubic jeans" for men. Apparantly they are cut low in front. So low, in fact, that pubic hair is visible. Is this really the culture we want? If it's progressed this far in only a few years, what will the next few years hold? I don't mean to sound too old fashioned, but this is ridiculous.

GreenEyedBlues 9 years, 4 months ago

Wow, Blessed3X, I'd better trim up and hit GAP for a new pair of pantalones! YES!

No, seriously... in high school I dressed like a 42 year old man. All Eddie Bauer, ALWAYS tucked in... most often with a sweater vest with a tie underneath. I called it 'ultraprep'. Clean cut and supa dupa fly. Unprecedented nerdiness, but it worked. If I were to be meeting God that day, I would be so ready. [Wardrobe-wise!]

Later did I find out that I was dressing from GQ and that apparel was geared towards corporate-casual boutique shoppers and not high school sophomores. [As if I could afford couture! Ha! No, I found what I could at Banana and EB... I don't think God is a fan of YSL or Versace]

Ceallach 9 years, 4 months ago

enochville: many of us are sinners saved, not by our own goodness, but by the goodness and grace of God. I have only one question, which I ask respectfully and not argumentatively. I do not find it scriptural for man to determine the degrees of sin. Where are men given the authority to determine such things? Through the centuries mankind certainly has, but scripturally the cord that winds throughout the Word does not make that distinction. This may be an occasion where our beliefs differ regarding the source of teaching, mine is the Bible. In an odd way I think we can take comfort that in the knowledge that He places gossiping in the same list with murder. Sin is missing the mark of perfection, which we all do far too often. However, too many professing Christians I have known work very hard to avoid committing the really bad sins, like injuring or killing someone, then with their words they injure or kill another's spirit or shatter their feeling of worth.

raven 9 years, 4 months ago

St. Thomas Aquinas (sp?) determined the degrees of sin, but I can't say whether or not it is in the bible.

I think though that cheating on a test is much different then murder.

Yes, I think teen fashion trends have become too revealing. I would not have worn some of that stuff as a teen. I am more into jeans and teas myself.

Ceallach 9 years, 4 months ago

raven: I agree that for our societal and interpersonal relationships there are certainly degrees of acceptability for our actions. Our judicial system is a good example of the need to set degrees to offenses and punish them accordingly. We are to treat others as we would want to be treated ourselves. We should forgive others because we understand the need to be forgiven. Etc. The tendency is to equate our relationships with people to our relationship with God, which I believe is entirely different.

raven 9 years, 4 months ago

Ceallach: I agree. It is totally different. Failing is failing on some degree. Do I always act as I should in my relationship with people, no. With God? No. But, we do the best we can and strive to do better.

Ceallach 9 years, 4 months ago

raven: That is my belief also. Some days I do better than others but try not to fool myself about the possibility of my messing up the next day :)

JohnS 9 years, 3 months ago

Kinko the clown loves teen fashions.....really, really.

Ceallach 9 years, 3 months ago

e_m, have I told you today that you are BAD??? As an adult I have developed the belief that people have to earn the right to see any more than modesty allows publicly:)

Ceallach 9 years, 3 months ago

consumer1: we could form a support group!

raven 9 years, 3 months ago

Consumer 1: Yes, I did not make that clear. St. Tom was not in the bible, I don't know if there are 'rankings' of sin in the bible. St. Tom ranked them in a completely seperate book. Sorry for any confusion. I am catholic, born and raised.

enochville 9 years, 3 months ago

Ceallach said: "I do not find it scriptural for man to determine the degrees of sin. Where are men given the authority to determine such things? Through the centuries mankind certainly has, but scripturally the cord that winds throughout the Word does not make that distinction. This may be an occasion where our beliefs differ regarding the source of teaching, mine is the Bible."

Yes, and that is why I prefaced my statement by saying some Christians would disagree with me. If such an ordering of sins exist in the Bible, I am unfamiliar with it. I will state with firmness that neither man nor men have ever been given the authority to order the seriousness of sin; however, God does have that authority. And we need not suppose that God could not have declared the gospel of Christ in other lands to other prophets who words were not included in the Bible due to the fact that they were not living in the Middle East. So, it is a difference in sources. The prophet Alma, who lived around 70 B.C., spoke to his son who had slept with a harlot, "Know ye not, my son, that these things are an abomination in the sight of the Lord; yea, most abominable above all sins save it be the shedding of innocent blood or denying the Holy Ghost? For behold, if ye deny the Holy Ghost when it once has had place in you, and ye know that ye deny it, behold, this is a sin which is unpardonable; yea, and whosoever murdereth against the light and knowledge of God, it is not easy for him to obtain forgiveness; yea, I say unto you, my son, that it is not easy for him to obtain a forgiveness."

Richard Heckler 9 years, 3 months ago

Clothes for children is between the family.

My mother and father could not stand Elvis Presley when first on the scene. I bought/was given every record the man produced. The music was great but the movies were not so hot but I saw them multiple times because of the music. Oddly enough decades later the parents decided he was a good guy a made two trips to visit the mansion. Teens don't give up easily.

Yes I remember the clothes hassles my sister endured. Yep the girls back in the 50's wore tight shorts during the days of Frankie Avalon. Yep we got through the ordeal with everyone alive and still loving each other.

Is this news article an attempt to intimidate teens into changing their lifestyles? If so give me a break. Now that an incredible amount of attention has been focused on these "unacceptable" styles no doubt some parent/child arguments have commenced and the clothes will be the hottest items on the retail scene.

I would rather the schools pursue in depth sex education rather than set style boundaries.

Mari Aubuchon 9 years, 3 months ago

It seems that the annual backlash against belly-and-booty-baring has officially begun.

Good grief! Yes, there are more than a few teenage girls who show off a bit to get attention. No, it isn't the healthiest expression of self-esteem in the world, but it sure is nothing new. Young women of Regency England wetted their muslin dresses in order to provide greater transparency. The Victorians may have been shy to show an ankle, but they certainly revealed plenty above the waist. And how can we forget the tube tops, skintight hiphuggers, and suggestively-sloganed tees of our own youth so very quickly? How about sizzle dresses with matching panties, black leather micro-minis, or satin track short-shorts?

There is nothing new under the sun.

Teenagers are wearing a mix of the same crap that was floating around in the 60's, 70's, and 80's. I just look and laugh to myself at the intrinsic silliness of humanity. If you think I have more respect for the fashion choices of adults, you would be wrong.

On a far more serious note: I do worry about girls. I worry that girls now, as girls have throughout history, face a world in which they have and may continue to accept less power than is their right. I do believe that female fashion does reveal underlying issues of gender and sexuality, but changing the clothes without also looking at those issues only further cloaks them in denial.

GreenEyedBlues 9 years, 3 months ago

TOB, Chill out! I was totally making light of Enochville's biblical reference to how God wants us to dress. Myyyyyy goodness, Mr. Fussypants.

I just got back from class and I saw only ONE pair of super short shorts among the 600+ folks I saw all afternoon. Most girls were wearing jeans or long [past the knees] skirts. Most sleeveless tanks covered most of the shoulder with no cleavage to be seen for miles. Then again, maybe I wasn't looking hard enough. Perhaps a warm-blooded hetero male would have a better cleavage detector than, well, me. Ha!

Find out for yourself:

1.) Use a lunch break to head up to campus between classes.

2.) If you want to blend in, press a cell phone to your ear and don't put it down for ANYTHING, not even to light up a square.

3.) Take note of how many gals you see in short shorts/revealing tops versus the modestly dressed ladies.

4.) For added fun, count the number of flip-flops! [the number is staggering, especially for the winter months.]

Hong_Kong_Phooey 9 years, 3 months ago

I'm a little late getting in on the discussion but I would say, yes, teen clothing trends are getting too revealing. I don't even know how many times I have seen girls wearing those short, hip-hugging mini's (which, Ceallach, if they did your skirt test - they would fail miserably) and there thong is sticking out the top. Honestly ladies - we don't care what kind of underwear you have on.

Now for the guys. Come on, pull your pants up! Nobody wants to see what kind of drawers you got on underneath the giant's jeans you borrowed. Not only that, but you look absolutely ridiculous having to hold on to your pants constantly b/c if you don't, they fall down. That ought to be a clue...

thisiknow 9 years, 3 months ago

I worry about what the teen girls wear only because I have a teenage son. Last spring as I sat in the seats at the basketball game, I reached down to get my purse and LO and BEHOLD a butt crack was exposed from the teenage girls sitting in front of me. Years ago girls were skipping out of the house and rolling up their skirts on the way to school. My mom caught on to this real quick and she did allow us to wear shorter skirts but we had to perform the BEND OVER TRICK. If we bent over in front of her with our backside to her and she could not see our underwear--she let us wear the skirt. Of course once a teenage girl goes walking up and down the stairs and looks up and sees other girls underwear that, is when it becomes perfectly clear that you hug the wall side of the stairway and do not let the boys peek! That was then! Now so little is left to the imagination.

Ceallach 9 years, 3 months ago

thisiknow: Your mom and mine must have come from the same egg!

To our late night posters -- have a great night!

sunflower_sue 9 years, 3 months ago

GEB, I LIVE in flip-flops. Don't know if it's 'cause I'm too lazy to tie shoes, if I'm addicted to Jimmy Buffet's refrence to them in "Margaritaville" or just because I'm naughty and like to show my "toe cleavage". (Hey, I've got really great toes so I'm gonna flaunt 'em!) Eat your heart out. Hee Hee.

jessi_bessi 9 years, 3 months ago

I think some clothes that teens AND young children are wearing are way to revealing and mini skirts are way too short and all those low cut, cleavage tops are just asking for trouble

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