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Do you think there is room for another ice cream shop downtown?

Asked at Massachusetts Street on August 10, 2005

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“Sure. The more the merrier. There are always people in the other ones.”

Photo of Brad Callahan

“Probably not. Seems like there is enough already. When businesses go in downtown, they don’t seem to stay around very long.”

Photo of Kondja Kamatuka

“No, because there are so many others already.”

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“I guess you can never really have too many ice cream shops. Variety is the spice of life, right?”

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Redneckgal 9 years, 4 months ago

Can there ever be such a thing as too much ice cream?

Richard Heckler 9 years, 4 months ago

Sylas and Matty's better hope for some unusual loyalty since they basically were the pioneers in downtown Lawrence for ice cream shops. I like their malts.

Ben and Jerry's is no longer owned by the two cool dude's so far as I know.

There is a new brand of organic ice cream at The Merc which is on sale. Julie's is so darn good in all of the flavors we tried.

lunacydetector 9 years, 4 months ago

could Ben & Jerry's be considered an 'outlet' store?

how many ice cream stores are downtown now, three? you got sylas and maddy's, cold stone creamery, and ben & jerry's. i don't think downtown can support another ice cream store. it will all boil down to how much money each respective store has in the bank, and if they can survive through the winter.

historically, dessert stores don't fair too well. ice cream, yogurt, custard, cookie, and smoothie stores are fads and each one respectively goes away after a few years to be replaced by another dessert.

MasterShake 9 years, 4 months ago

Sorry, Silas and Maddie's/Cold Stone. I was never really impressed with their ice creams at all, so I'm very excited that Ben and Jerry's is opening a scoop-shop in town.

neopolss 9 years, 4 months ago

Is another ban in order? I mean, with the worry of too many bars downtown, many felt it made sense to keep any more from opening. The ice cream stores are starting to take over. I'm with blue73harley - ban ice cream.

Let's hope they don't have a smoking patio. Ice cream drippings and ciggerette butts - oh yeah!

Topside 9 years, 4 months ago

Mastershake-I have never been to Cold Stone, but I feel Silas and Maddy's delivers a very solid product. They have a penut butter...something that is outa-sight! However, a bowl of chubby hubby is hard to beat. In a few years downtown lawrence will just be an open air Oak Park Mall. Just look at that new shopping center S of KCI, "Zona Rosa"(sp?). All they did was try and copy an old downtown lawrence feel but it has the same crap every other mall does like Pac Sun, Aeropostale, Gap, etc... Lawrence is turning into the same thing just doing it sorta backwards.

jillh 9 years, 4 months ago

Don't forget Penny Annies has ice cream too. So that would make four downtown ice cream venues. I love Sylas & Maddy's, I used to work there and the owners are wonderful people. Ben & Jerry's....BOO HISS!!

gontek 9 years, 4 months ago

Not everyone can win in the restaurant business, or in business in general. If Ben and Jerrys comes in with a solid plan and experience, I suspect the Cold Stone Creamery would be the first ot feel the squeeze. Ever tried their Ginger Wasabi flavored ice cream? That's the free market and competition at it best. I think its great. Also, the cyber nova cafe has really good gelato. When are we going to get a really good italian cafe downtown, like Cupini's or something?

Fangorn 9 years, 4 months ago

Let's see....big, out-of-town corporate entity coming to Lawrence to beat up the local mom-and-pop establishments...but...but...it's Ben and Jerry's! What's a good liberal to do?! For consistency's sake, it would be nice to see the same venom and zeal directed at B&J's that's been reserved for Wal-Mart recently. At least Wal-Mart sells low-priced products. I've never heard anyone apply the term "low-priced" to the new-comer's ice cream. And I wonder if Ben & Jerry's will pay a "living wage" and provide excellent benefits for their employees?

In the end, all this talk about ice cream is kind of a moot point for me as long as we've got businesses in town that sell....frozen custard!

MasterShake 9 years, 4 months ago

Topside, I'm afraid B&J has a natural advantage for me. I grew up in NH/VT and I worked at a B&J scoop shop, so I'm a bit biased. :)

I was really unimpressed with coldstone and my half-dozen trips to Silas are not memorable either. I still love custard from "The Cup", but since it's on the opposite side of town, I can't endulge as much as I'd like.

I'm happy to support local business, but when somebody else offers a much better product....well....

tell_it_like_it_is 9 years, 4 months ago

I understand and share the concern about mom and pops getting run out of business. But if you folks don't want them up there send 'em on down south on 59 to the Ottawa/Princeton area. All we have down here are 2 DQ's and there ice cream is gross and expensive.

rhd99 9 years, 4 months ago

If we have enough room for ANOTHER Wal-Mart, then I think the city can afford to find someone OTHER THAN a national chain to open a new ice cream shop downtown. In unrelated sorts of news, that two-timing Connie Morris of the Board of Education of Kansas, if she can stay at a $339/night stay at a hotel, then by God she can pay it HERSELF, or take a trip to the UNEMPLOYMENT line. End of line, MORRIS!!!!!

Fangorn 9 years, 4 months ago

Looking back to yesterday's board (which I just went back and finished reading): First, I can't believe how on-topic everyone stayed. Was that really us? Or were we replaced by alien pod creatures? We've never stayed on-topic like that before. Second, I think over-all that was the funniest conversation I've ever read! I don't think there was any contention or nastiness. Finally, I can't believe a few of those posts didn't get deleted. ;)

rhd99 9 years, 4 months ago

Oh, but Kline, don't you see, if the owners of this paper are in (say East Hills) they have no way of controlling how YOU & I get our news. As for Allen Press, whatever.

mlemiller 9 years, 4 months ago

I have only lived here for a year, but I am very impressed with the downtown area and I believe it has a lot of local flavor. My father owns a downtown business in another state, but his downtown is nowhere near as busy as Lawrence's downtown and I believe that is because there aren't any well-known, big-name stores down there anymore. In my hometown JCPenney and other department stores used to be downtown and that brought a lot of business to locally-owned businesses like my father's. But since those businesses left for the mall about 15 years ago, that downtown has been very quiet. Sometimes it helps to have a familiar place for people to go that will bring more business to the area overall. I am not saying that Ben and Jerry's opening will improve Lawrence economics, but I do believe it is healthy for our downtown to have a balance of the mom and pop's and the nationally-known stores. When my dad came here the first time he couldn't believe what he saw downtown... people walking up and down the streets. He took pictures to show all of his brothers (co-owners of the store) what a good downtown looks like. He even called them from Massachusetts Street to tell them how great it was.

I think Lawrence is a wonderful community to live in, and I think that is because there are a lot of people involved in making it that way. But no matter what, there is always so much negativity and complaining. You have every right to complain, but take a step back sometime and contemplate the good things.

rhd99 9 years, 4 months ago

mlemiller, the good things are always overshadowed by the bad (considering the three politicians at City Hall who FORCED smoking & fireworks bans WITHOUT public votes) because of short-sighted polticians. Yes, MLE, Lawrence is fantastic. GET RID of three politicians at City Hall, & Lawrence will be even better.

Linda Aikins 9 years, 4 months ago

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rhd99 9 years, 4 months ago

consumer1, thanks for that. I was wondering WHAT THE HECK THAT WAS from Gootsie? Was that some SICK message trying to convey a ban on Ben & Jerry's Ice cream shop from coming here?

Linda Aikins 9 years, 4 months ago

Thanks consumer1! Yes I have a wonderful job in KC where I can make enough money to barely live in Lawrence! I also know the website where you can get anagrams. That is just a partial listing, but I liked that the word "ban" was in it.

TOB - nice catch on the red Jenny thing. We SW Kansas people are soooooo smart.

chrys anthalbee 9 years, 4 months ago

"When I grow up, I'm going to bovine university!" -- ralph wiggum

rhd99 9 years, 4 months ago

EOTW, let's NOT ban Lawrence. Let's ban city commissioners' salaries. That'll save you & me money.

rhd99 9 years, 4 months ago

By the way, folks, my tirade against politicians today is because of that whench, Connie Morris, who threatened to force you & me to pay for HER travels & expenses. She has the money. She pays or gets removed from office.

HighScore 9 years, 4 months ago

I agree with mlemiller. The diversity of locally owned and large corporation business in downtown Lawrence on Massachusetts Street helps everyone downtown.

I have lived downtown on Mass St. for five years. It is a great place to live (other than the ocassional bout with the parking nazis). I used to have the mindset that I should only try to support locally owned businesses. La Prima Tazza instead of Starbucks, Miltons rather than First Watch; it didn't matter what the situation, I always tried to look local first.

I happened to bump into the owner of the store that I live above and she asked me what it was like to live on Mass. I told her that I loved it, though I sometimes felt like I was living in a shopping mall, what with the Gap, A & F, and Urban Outfitters just a short walk away. I asked her what she thought of these large chain stores popping up in our downtown neighborhood, and her response really surprised me. She told me that she embraced it. She told me that since these stores have made their introduction she has found that larger numbers of shoppers are drawn to Mass St. that would normally travel to Oak Park Mall or some other larger shopping center. This response really made me rethink my logic. Sure I will always support local first, but at the same time that doesn't mean I want to drive out anything corporate. I accept Starbucks, Gap, Cold Stone and even Ben and Jerry's. I will have to eat there myself to see what all the hype is about, but after I am done I'm sure you will still find me in Syla's and Maddy's.

I have always found it funny that everyone seems to hate Starbucks. I remember the outrage when the Mass St. location opened. All I heard was that Lawrence has enough coffee shops. I have seen their windows broken, and spray painted on the side wall. Give me a break. I have never heard anyone complaining about Pizza Hut or threatening their Mass St. location and god knows this town has more pizza shops than coffee houses.

It's your buck. If you like Starbucks, Pizza Hut, Cold Stone Creamery, Ben and Jerry's and shop at the Gap, then by all means go for it.

Linda Aikins 9 years, 4 months ago

Maybe they'll serve Roundabout Raspberry? Or Ban Banana? Something that reflects our lovely town.

How about Homeless Hemp flavor? I'd honk at that.

mlemiller 9 years, 4 months ago

offtotheright....I am 24 and I rent a house in Lawrence, so I guess you could say I pay some of those taxes for my landlord. I may be young, but I have had many opportunities to see small-town politics in action and have attended probably at least 80 city meetings in various cities in the last three years. There are, no doubt, some local politicians that make bad decisions. But for the most part I think that people who are willing to get involved in that way do it with good intentions. I wouldn't suggest that any of your concerns are unfounded, but Lawrence has got it right in so many ways. All I am suggesting is that people take a look around sometime and notice the great things about Lawrence. Complaining is just whining if you're not willing to make any effort to change things for the better.

mlemiller 9 years, 4 months ago

T_O_B, you're right. I never knew Lawrence any other way and I am sure a lot of people miss what used to be. My grandparents used to have a farm but little by little they sold off the land. When I visit now, I am always a little irritated that someone would have the audacity to build a home in what used to be a field where we would play baseball and lay out to watch fireworks on the 4th of July. So I understand sentimental feelings about how things used to be. But change isn't always bad.

Ceallach 9 years, 4 months ago

Another ice cream shop? Why not! Whether it be B&J or someone else, if citizens don't patronize them they will not stay, if citizens want a given product why shouldn't they have the opportunity to purchase it?

I remember "old Lawrence" very well. Has everyone forgotten the price gouging and limited selection provided by "local" merchants. Merchants who, by the way, became very wealthy by overcharging "local" citizens year after year.

By its very nature business is competitive. If local merchants want to set up shop downtown, fine, just stop whining about competition from the big, bad corporations. However, if local merchants cannot supply quality goods at reasonable prices people are going to go elsewhere. At least this people will.

grilled_cheese 9 years, 4 months ago

"Smoking Ban Sorbet" or "Slumlord's Sundae"

italianprincess 9 years, 4 months ago

My youngest likes going to S and M's for ice cream. His fav flavor is......cotton candy. We have been to Stone Cold and they are okay, but not as good as S and M's. Stone Cold's thing is buy the base and add what you want costing you more money. I like the fact that S and M's is made right there in the store. They offer original flavors, the specialty flavors at times.

Wouldn't make a difference to me if another ice cream shop came to Larwrence. Who knows if they will last, and being the 4th place to buy ice cream downtown they will have some competition.

They sell Ben and Jerrys in the stores and people buy there They have many flavors to choose from and my new fav is the Godfather. Its expensive to buy at times, but worth it on a hot day or night. Karmel Sutra is also good if you like caramel.

Let them come and try it, its worth a try to see how it goes.

rhd99 9 years, 4 months ago

Okay, here's an idea, & the Commission has a choice to make: A. Impose Rent Control on the slumlords in this town, while opening a Ben & Jerry's ice cream shop. or B. Give up their salaries.

Why these two? Well, let's admit it. Rent is RIDICULOUS here in town. I mean business owners in Downtown have left or are leaving because whoever owns the properties SCREW people out of their hard earned money. Any of you that rent apartments, if I am wrong, please tell me. It's my impression that the amount of money people have to pay for rent here in Lawrence is out of control because of the SLUM LORDS at some complexes who have NOT been properly doing proper maintainence checks. The other thing, Baskin & Robbins 31 flavors is a great chain for ice cream. Bucky's is good as well, but if Ben & Jerrys came to Lawrence, that's fair competition.

rhd99 9 years, 4 months ago

OB, the problem is that people fail to see the ills of the direction government has taken here in Lawrence, in particular. The good that I see gets overshadowed by the ill-advised policies of SOME not all, in our city Commission. I will lighten up my criticism when the few politicians start thinking less about themselves & more about us. I support opening Ben & Jerry's. Heck, I would LOVE to see B & Js opening at Hy-Vee on 6th or on 23rd. What's that one building by Home Depot going to house? Ben & Jerry's would be perfect there.

rhd99 9 years, 4 months ago

Gootsie, Anal Avocado topped with a cherry? Ha! Just kidding. Sorry folks if I offended anyone here. This is my only avenue other than people I work with to let off some steam. Any ideas where Ben & Jerrys could locate here in Lawrence?

rhd99 9 years, 4 months ago

Thanks, OB. Leader types (HA!:) They're not leaders. At least not the ones who attended the 150th anniversary commemoration. KU would be the ideal spot. On 23rd street, it's too bad that that one mall area across from Walgreens doesn't have any open areas.

kansas 9 years, 4 months ago

Hmmm......Another day of anal jokes/references, I see.

My! My! What is this board coming to?!

Redneckgal 9 years, 4 months ago

Okay OMB had to read your post twice..I seen the BJ and kind of wonder there for a minute sorry!

tell_it_like_it_is 9 years, 4 months ago

kansas..I think this board does a little better when they ask a more interesting topic. At least it doesn't tend to go off subject so fast most of the time. Just my opinion.

italianprincess 9 years, 4 months ago

Now, now extreme.......don't be thinking dirty ice cream thoughts here.......LOL

You know very well what S and M stands for......just didn't feel like typing out the whole name.

Hehehehehe

beatrice 9 years, 4 months ago

Goodbye mom and pop stores, it was nice knowing you. It really is a shame that so many people will give up on the things that are truly important to a community for simple convenience.

Fangorn, you mentioned yesterday's posts as being funny, on topic, without "any contention or nastiness," yet you use today's post as a means of trying to take a stab at liberals. What gives? Do you want to play nice, or not? If you don't want rancor, then don't throw stones.

As far as comparing Ben & Jerry's to Walmart, all I can say is that while B&J is now indeed a corporate entity, it hasn't been in the news recently as has Walmart for locking employees in at night, not paying due overtime, being sued for sexist hiring and promotional practices, sueing Lawrence, insisting that suppliers provide foreign made products when American made goods are available, building a giant store near archeological wonders (pyramids in Mexico), destroying the local economies of small towns across America, etc., etc., etc. ... So somehow I don't see us liberals being as up in arms as we are against the evil that is Walmart.

And frozen custard!!??!! Yuck. It tastes like frozen bison.

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Linda Aikins 9 years, 4 months ago

HaHa Beatrice! I've never anagramed gootsie!!! I think it missed one -

GOOSE IT

http://www.wordsmith.org/anagram/

Thanks!

Linda Aikins 9 years, 4 months ago

I missed it! It was there! HELP!!

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J Good Good 9 years, 4 months ago

the "naturist" plays would probably be good - maybe they should serve ice cream....

Staci Dark Simpson 9 years, 4 months ago

rhd-I agree rent is ridiculous in Lawrence and so is the price of real estate. 2 years ago I lived 2 block from the Gulf of Mexico in a 2yr old duplex and my rent was cheaper than in Lawrence. I had a great view and no homeless people sleeping everywhere.

As for b&j, they are pricey but good. I still like good ol'Dairy Queen. BTW, their ice cream is not gross whoever said that earlier

My suggestions for Lawrence ice cream flavors: Transient Triple Fudge with candy softballs Formaldehyde Foot Freeze

Ben_Meover 9 years, 4 months ago

What, Ann?

I was just going to say that I love taking those two popsicle halfs and sliding them into each of my nostrils so as to make you laugh! You know, like I used to do when we were first dating! Remember how impressed you were the first time you saw me do that?---In front of your parents, no less! And unlike most women I have known, you weren't the least bit embarrassed by it! As a matter of fact, as I recall, you laughed and laughed until snots ran from your nose! And then, if my memory serves me correctly, I seem to remember you leaning over to where your mother was sitting and whispering in her ear something like...."I'm going to marry that man someday."

Anyway, that's all I was going to say, my little Annie-kins.

Honest! I swear!

Don't be mad at me, Ann!

Do you still love me?

Tell me you still love me!

Staci Dark Simpson 9 years, 4 months ago

TOB BTO OTB - You are thinking of Chunky Monkey and it is delish!!!

acg 9 years, 4 months ago

When it comes to ice cream bought in a grocery store no one beats Bryer's, hands down. Why would you spend $5.00 on a pint of B & J when you can spend $6.00 on a half gallon of Bryers and get better quality ice cream? I've become an ice cream expert, btw, since I eat a ton of it these days. Has anyone noticed that the taste of a Klondike bar has changed since we were kids? They're nowhere near as good as I remember.

raven 9 years, 4 months ago

acg: I am in complete agreement with you. I love Bryers icecream. It is by far the best! I will probably pick some up on my way home from work.

beatrice 9 years, 4 months ago

TOB, you caught me red-handed trying to slip in a blanket, heavy-handed statement. Perhaps "destroying" is a bit much, but studies published by the Hometown Advantage (a clearly biased publication in favor of locally owned businesses) for instance, have found "counties that have gained Wal-Mart stores have fared worse in terms of family poverty rates," and "that big-box retailers, particularly Wal-Mart, are depressing wages and benefits for retail employees," among other negative economic impacts.

So I might have overstated it, but I don't think I am completely out in left field on this.

Best B&J ice cream: Chubby Hubby. yum, yum

linux_chick 9 years, 4 months ago

Bryers does taste better, but B&J donates a significant amount of their profits to charities.

That's why they're so expensive.

craigers 9 years, 4 months ago

Chocolate Chip Cookie dough from "Stone Cold Creamery" is awesome. Sorry, that is the only name I can remember and I know it isn't the correct one, but oh well. I also had the Double Fudge Cookie dough blizzard from DQ last week and it was the best blizzard I have ever had. I honestly don't think downtown can support another ice cream shop, but if they want to try then why not.

Another suggestion for a flavor-"Honk for Hemp Fudge Munchie."

beatrice 9 years, 4 months ago

TOB - There are people who intentionally travel the country to visit Wal-Mart stores? Are they called "Wal-Heads"? This is just too weird to be fiction. I love it. Thanks.

And I agree, we don't really need to get things stirred up on Wal-Mart again. Blame Fangorn, he started it. : )

Also, Lawrence, while it may have many amenities other communities are lacking, it still isn't what I would call a "big city." Far from it. To know how big a city is, I think you should count the number of movie theaters (not the number of ice cream stores). If there are 10 theaters or more, it is likely a "big" city. We have 2, which equals a "small town," at least in my book. (No offense against Lawrence intended here, everyone. Just a fuzzy attempt at hard, sociological science.)

Linda Aikins 9 years, 4 months ago

Oh TOB is so right. When my family and friends would come to visit, we always had to go to wal-to-wal mart. I just don't get it either. Maybe it's just that small towners don't want to get too far out of their shopping comfort zones. And do you notice that they call it Wal Marts? Not Wal Mart? hmm

Yes also on the # of theaters - Lawrence is a big city. We had one theater but usually had to go to Buffalo OK or Dodge City to see the "new" movies. I liked moving here because I could go to the grocery store and not worry about what I was wearing. Cool!

I like the stoplight theory. We had one flashing one at the highway. It took forever to get away from it. Go-stop-go-stop-go-stop. Sheesh.

acg 9 years, 4 months ago

Bryer's and Edy's are both on sale at Dillons right now for like 1/2 off the usual price, btw, guys. I think I may slide by there on the way home for some mint choco chip. :) Mmmmm. Ya'll have a good night.

beatrice 9 years, 4 months ago

And that road to the theater had better be paved!

But I'm sticking with my theater theory. Philadelphia, Chicago, Phoenix, Houston, etc. -- those are big cities, each with dozens and dozens of theaters. The good theaters, too, with multiple art houses to multi-plexes with actual stadium seating in large, comfortable chairs that rock(!) with armrests that raise and lower and have cup holders.

Lawrence, by my theater-theory, is a mere college town. A fine one at that, don't get me wrong. As someone elsewhere has said here, if all we really have to complain about are roundabouts, and smoking and fireworks bans, we are doing okay. However, it is still a town. Any smaller, and, well, um, ... I guess I should let someone else define that.

Fangorn 9 years, 4 months ago

Beatrice: I apologize if my post seemed unpleasant. I just thought the dilemma was funny. I mean, Ben & Jerry's has been a liberal icon for a long time. But they're also a "big business" now. And since moving to Lawrence I've noticed that the left end of the spetrum here (a larger segment of the population than many places) tends to dislike and distrust "big business", especially Wal-Mart lately. I've seen quite a lot of discussion on how Wallyworld undercuts local mom-and-pops and pushes them out. I just wondered if any on the left, who would otherwise love B&J's, might have misgivings about another big business hurting local establishments. I really wasn't trying to be mean.

beatrice 9 years, 4 months ago

e_m: I enjoy your posts too -- frequently very funny stuff. I visited Phoenix recently and saw War of the Worlds (just an okay movie) at the new Cine Capri, a 600 seat theater with a screen that is 70 by 30 feet! (I just googled it for the size.) WOW!! It isn't IMAX type big, which is just too overwhelming, but big enough to make you feel like you are experiencing something much more than just a large version of what you get at home. Indeed, it helps make going to a movie an experience.

As far as Lawrence goes, I love Liberty Hall. A great art house, with a good snack bar and excellent popcorn. Southwind, however, blows (pun intended). And the popcorn there is just awful, which I don't understand. How do you screw up popcorn? It's not like they are using microwave popcorn (yuck), but it still tastes terrible. Very sad.

beatrice 9 years, 4 months ago

Fangorn, no need to apologize. I honestly didn't take it too seriously, and realized you were just poking good fun at the left. And yes, there will certainly be those on the left (and hopefully the right, too) who will try to avoid shopping at another corporate entity in town when there is a viable, locally-owned alternative. Isn't the small-town "you can't get this anywhere else but here" thing part of what people enjoy about living in Lawrence? Every corporate franchise or store that comes in, we loose another part of what makes Lawrence unique, as we become one step closer to being just like everywhere else. ugh

Personally, I purchase B&J in the grocery store on occassion, but I doubt I will ever go to a B&J ice cream parlor. I also don't think of this as a contradiction, because there is no viable, locally made, alternative ice cream. (Is there?) Likewise, I drink coffee, but have never been in Starbucks, in Lawrence or anywhere else. No matter where, I much prefer stopping into a privately owned coffee shop -- the type of place that is so often run by hippies, has rainbow stickers on the windows, plays music that isn't Yanni-like, and has kids working there that have pieces of metal stuck in assorted spots in their face who wear "The Ramones" t-shirts. Somehow, a cup of coffee just tastes better at a place like that. What can I say. I'm a liberal.

Fangorn 9 years, 4 months ago

Beatrice: I'm glad to hear you weren't taking me too seriously. I was trying for a "just-busting-your-chops" kind of tone. I though maybe I'd stepped a bit over the line. I agree very much about the local flavor of Lawrence. I had heard about Lawrence's "famous" downtown before I ever moved here. It's a very unique and lively part of our community. Parking's kind of a pain, but I enjoy all the little shops. And I always loved the fact that I could buy hummus at four different places within walking distance of each other. I've had Ben & Jerry's a few times, but I think I'll stick with Sylas & Maddie's since it's local. "Your dollar is your vote" and all that.

l_eustacy 9 years, 4 months ago

It may be a Rocky Road getting a new ice cream parlor...I kill me.

We need to import Walmart to the mideast. We can do what the Japanese did after WWII and defeat them in a different way If that doesn't work we can always nuke them.

Jayhawk226 9 years, 4 months ago

Why do you we fear choices?

There's nothing wrong with having options.

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