Have you ever eaten bison? Do you think it will become more popular as the price of beef rises? / LJWorld.com

Asked at Massachusetts Street on August 9, 2005

“I’ve never had it, but I think it will become more popular if it’s less expensive than beef.”

— Jimmy Baker, cashier, Tonganoxie

“Actually I have had bison. It’s more juicy and has less fat than beef. I think it will if the price of beef continues to rise.”

— Brandon Bowman, Kansas University junior, Lawrence

“No. I’ve never eaten bison, and I don’t ever plan on it. I don’t think it will become more popular. I would rather just eat turkey or chicken.”

— Danielle Strauber, security guard/lifeguard, Greenwood Village, Colo.

“I haven’t. I think people will eat more if beef gets more expensive.”

— Mickey Htoo, architecture intern, Lawrence

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Fangorn 8 years, 7 months ago

I've never had bison. I doubt it will ever overtake beef, which will always be more abundant. People who want a lower fat intake will eat chicken or turkey or go vegetarian.

Weren't bison on the verge of extinction for a while? What's next? Spotted-owl patee and California condor egg souffle?

Jayhawk226 8 years, 7 months ago

Has anybody ever been eaten by a bison?

That would suck.

GreenEyedBlues 8 years, 7 months ago

Never eaten bison. A friend in junior high tricked me into eating deer! Damn him for tellling me it was roast beef.

I wish I knew of a rabid man-eating bison to which I could feed this friend.

redbird 8 years, 7 months ago

Growing up on the "rez" in Oklahoma,one of the traditional meats for our big get togther dinners was bison or buffalo.It can be very good when cooked right....Yes I would eat it again!!!

kcwarpony 8 years, 7 months ago

The best bison meat is 100% grass fed from start to harvest. Easy to find on the web but the shipping cost start to add up.
I've had Lone Star Lake Bison and they have a good quality product. Gald to hear they are expanding the business. As for anyone being eaten by a bison, no...but a rancher by the name of Dick Rock (I kid you not!) had rasied a bison bull from a calf and it was considered to be tamed, that is until one day it turned and gored him to death. The bison had to be killed before Rock's body could be recovered. Happened back in the 194?? I think.

jayhawk2000 8 years, 7 months ago

When I was a kid I was served up a rabbit leg and told it was the drumstick off a really tall chicken. We also occasionally ate venison given us by hunters, but it never really caught my fancy.

Water buffalo is delicious and I imagine is very similar to bison, which I've not eaten. Beef would no doubt taste better and be healthier if cattle allowed to roam more and not fattened on grain.

Chickens now have three times as much fat as in the 1970s. It's down to battery production and the quest for faster & faster weight gain. People say to not eat the skin but if it's been roasted with the skin on, the fat sinks in.

enochville 8 years, 7 months ago

Boy, we have a lot of early birds this morning. I don't remember ever having bison, but I have sampled several exotic meats before. While I was living out West, I heard that some environmental protection agency was authorized to kill several animals in the surrounding mountains due to overpopulation. Not wanting to waste the meat, they held a huge dinner for the community where you could sample all you wanted for $5.00. I went and tried cougar, beer, deer, grouse, rabbit, snake, and maybe a few others I can't remember. Surprizingly, the cougar was a white meat and pretty good, but a little dry. (I am probably making some vegetarian sick. Sorry :).

enochville 8 years, 7 months ago

Oops! "Beer" was supposed to be bear.

Redneckgal 8 years, 7 months ago

I would probably give it a try..my family might be a little different story though! Hamburger has been so expensive that lately we've been having a lot of salmon and tuna and pasta.

John Spencer 8 years, 7 months ago

Ban Bison Feet. Soylent Green is Bison! Soylent Green is Bison!

wichita_reader 8 years, 7 months ago

I've had buffalo burgers and meatloaf, and liked them both. Like consumer1 posted, price is largely dictated by supply and demand.

Too bad there's not more federal land in Kansas. BLM cookouts with $5.00 all you can eat critter. What a deal!

Topside 8 years, 7 months ago

TOB is right, Bison/Buffalo is like beef, but not quite. It is a much dryer meat that is not as good eatin as beef so this is a stupid question. Also, maybe I've not been a bargain hunter, but I don't ever remember seeing Bison much cheaper than beef. I always see it for just as much if not more.

Fangorn 8 years, 7 months ago

Just a note: Discovery landed safely about an hour ago. It was a pre-dawn landing at Edwards AFB, California. The orbiter will have to be returned to Florida piggy-backed on its specially made 747. Due to the weight, it has to make several stops along the way to refuel. Watch the news. One stop may be at Offutt AFB, Nebraska, or somewhere else close enough for Kansas residents to visit (sorry, ms_canada & OMB, you'll have a longer drive).

offtotheright: Technically, the creature here in the US is a bison. The buffalo is found in Asia and Africa. The name came about in the much the same way the aboriginal tribes of America came to be called "Indians", even though India is thousands of miles away.

mr_daniels 8 years, 7 months ago

Long before there were Pilgrams my ancestors were nourished by the Tatanka and up on the Pine Ridge, the Tatanka still feeds us. Very nourishing and quite tasty as well. Peace to all recent Pilgrams!

klthompson1 8 years, 7 months ago

To Topside and TOB...Bison is like beef...but not, you're right about that. However, it can be very juicy and is very tasty, when prepared properly. The only reason it would ever turn out dry, is if it were cooked to quickly, or on a high heat. Bison needs to be cooked "low and slow" as my dad would say, who raises over 100 head of Bison, and sells the meat at various farmers markets. I happen to think it tastes much better than beef, and after eating bison, I can't go back to eating beef. Beef is just too fatty for me. Comparing ground bison to the leanest ground beef...you will still find much less fat(usually none at all) to drain off. Sorry topside, but this is very good eating. You should really give it a chance and cook it properly...or have it cooked properly for you. I sell it for my dad to various customers in the area, who would agree that it is so much better. Not to take away from the beef farmers either...we grew up raising cattle and ate beef. This has just been a recent venture in the past 3 or 4 years for my father. We've just found it to be a much healthier alternative, as you can well see from the chart in the article.

acg 8 years, 7 months ago

wereallmonkeys-your soylent green comment cracked me up. That was a great flick.

klthompson1 8 years, 7 months ago

Fangorn---I think people realize the dif between bison and buffalo...it's just that so many people use the word buffalo they refer to both.

Lib_ee12 8 years, 7 months ago

What a dumb question. I don't even want to answer.

I'm actually surprised the topic hasn't changed yet.

Lib_ee12 8 years, 7 months ago

I take that back. Soy will be the new beef, not buffalo.

Lib_ee12 8 years, 7 months ago

It's still a dumb question :P

klthompson1 8 years, 7 months ago

Lib_ee12...

Soy (Tempeh)is still higher in calories and fat...much higher.

Calories 193 ( Total Fat 10.8 g 17% Saturated Fat 2.2 g 11% Cholesterol 0 mg 0% Sodium 9 mg 0% Total Carbohydrates 9.4 g 3% Dietary Fiber - 0% Sugars -
Protein 18.5 g
Calcium 111 mg
Potassium 412 mg

tell_it_like_it_is 8 years, 7 months ago

Cat the other white meat!

acg 8 years, 7 months ago

If God hadn't wanted us to eat the animals he wouldn't have made them out of yummy meat. This whole thread makes me want a steak real bad, or a hot dog, or ooh, no a fat chili cheese dog. Man, pregnancy cravings suck. At no other time in my life would I be interested in eating a chili dog at 9:00 a.m. :)

klthompson1 8 years, 7 months ago

consumer1...He lives and raises bison in Hutchinson, but I keep product on hand and make sales for him in Lawrence and surrounding areas. If you would like to contact me by email, I'll send you a price list. Just click on my screen name.

klthompson1 8 years, 7 months ago

To anyone who is interested...there will be a write-up in the Hutchinson newspaper (tomorrow we think) about my father and his bison farm.

Carmenilla 8 years, 7 months ago

What a funny question. YDP are cracking me up by being hilariously on-topic today. Whats gotten into you?

I was a vegetarian for 11 years but nursing my child brought out the carnivore in me, acg. I happily eat meat in moderation. Not too much of any one thing. I like a variety including (and especially) seafood.

I have bought bison from a vendor at the Farmer's Market. It made some mean sloppy joes. And it went well with my homemade mac and cheese and blueberry cobbler! Man, I better go to the gym and stop talking about all this yummy food.....

tell_it_like_it_is 8 years, 7 months ago

I've never had bison but would give it a try for sure. Any meat is good as long as it has mashed potatoes and gravy with it far as I'm concerned.

Lib_ee12 8 years, 7 months ago

consumer1: I don't mean that meat is a taboo subject. I just mean that the whole topic is BOOOORRRING!!! I'm sure there are much more thought provoking topics out there. Now, I'm not much of a sports fan, but what about the NCAA's new rule about mascots and political correctness? I can see lots of opinions forming there. However, this is a par question for the LJWorld lately.

P.S. My name is for my cat!! Libee! There should be no more talking of eating cats!!!!!!

Lib_ee12 8 years, 7 months ago

The next time she misbehaves, I'll give that a try.

Topside 8 years, 7 months ago

klthompson1-I am not going to have a big debate about raising livestock with you. I'm sure you are more in tune with the subject of raising Bison. However, I bet I know food more than you (or, at least, outweigh you). Admittedly, I have only had Buffalo in one form, Burgers. Burger meat is supposed to be juicy and stuff and the ones I had were NOT! It had a nice flavor but I had to douse it fixin's to choke it down.

I also have a question. I have heard that one reason that Bison raising has been slow to catch on is that they are a lot wilder than regular cows. They really don' t like to be fenced and can get out of normal fences easily. I have also been told that a Bison can jump like 6 ft in the air (according Yellowstone Park Rangers AND a Nat. Geographic article). However, I am sceptical as I have never seen an animal that size jump like that have you? It would be awesome to see though.

Gootsie 8 years, 7 months ago

C1, did you mean something naughty with that cat comment? If so, immediately go wash your hands with soap.

klthompson1 8 years, 7 months ago

Topside...I certainly didn't want to argue with you. I value all opinions. I just didn't want you to snub bison if it had just been cooked improperly. I promise, it can be juicy as well, but of course, not as juicy. The reason beef is juicy is because it contains so much fat. You should try a bison roast----they are delicious...and extremely juicy the way I prepare them! On low in a crockpot all day (while at work) with au juis. TASTY!

It is true, Bison are pretty wild animals, and can't be coralled (sp?) by the same means as cattle. You have to have heavy-duty, and tall panels or fencing. My father has 8 foot high panels in the coral, and uses heavy-duty electric fencing. They are huge, strong animals, and it is true, they can jump!!! It's actually rather humerous to behold. Send me an email, and I'll show you a picture I have of my dad's farm...with the bison. We have actually fed them through the fence (the only time they get food other than grass is in the winter when they need more nutrients), but I would never just stand in the middle of a field with them. They may be wild...but they don't have a wilde taste! : )

ladysilk 8 years, 7 months ago

I talked a guy at work into making bison curry and bringing it to a potluck here at work. It was really good and no one knew it was bison until we said something. I will eat it if it is cooked in something but I am can't eat it plain like a burger or roast or something. Same with deer. I used to eat all of this stuff then I got pregnant and the smell of cooking meat made me ill and to this day I can not stand the smell of raw meat or the taste of game meats. I count bison in with game meat because it has the same smell and similar texture. As for cat...I grew up in Latin America and I ate at road side food stands all the time. I am sure I have had my share of cat, dog, and roadkill.

Topside 8 years, 7 months ago

OMB-I have been to custer state park, amoung others, and everywhere they have Bison all the Park Rangers and sign postings say to stay back. Lo and behold we drive around the bend and there is always at least one idiot standing within 10 foot of a Bison trying to get a good picture. At Yellowstone we even saw one genious poking one in the rump with a stick trying to get it to turn around! I hope he got what he deserved eventually! The only things certain in life are death taxes and people thinking the rules don't apply to them.

Kthompson1-I am totally cool with everyone here. I will never snub meat. If I'm at a BBQ and they got Beef...I'm eating! Lamb, Bison, Emu, Gator, Gnu...Whatever just pass the potatoe cassarole and the A1! -One Love. -

klthompson1 8 years, 7 months ago

original bob---really, you can make anything you would normally but beef in, with bison instead. Just make sure that you're not cooking the bison by itself on a really high heat. My very favorite is the roasts. I put my roast in the crockpot in the morning before I leave for work (around 7:30 am). I put the roast in raw with a little water mixed with an au juis seasoning packet. I let it cook on low all day until I return home from work around 5:30. It is absolutely perfect then, and just falls apart all tender and juicy! I love it!!!

Topside 8 years, 7 months ago

The e in potatoe stands for extra cheesy!

Topside 8 years, 7 months ago

Chocolate makes everything better.

klthompson1 8 years, 7 months ago

wow...chocolate in chili...interesting! : )

Carmenilla 8 years, 7 months ago

Chocolate and salsa in your chili!?! That sounds darn good, OMB. Its almost like a mole sauce. I can't wait for Fall so that I can try out that recipe.

Lib_ee12 8 years, 7 months ago

Consumer1, you weren't harsh. The controversy is half the fun! It's the reason I keep reading these things. That's why I get kind of disappointed when the question is such a dud.

Now after Gootsie's comment, I'm going to be ashamed of my lack of sense of humor and failure to twist logic. I wasn't even thinking in that direction! It really takes a special person..... I do see how/why innuendo is necessary. The other half of the fun is to not get your comment booted!

Carmenilla 8 years, 7 months ago

So do the Bobs believe that "veggie" chili is an oxymoron? As in, you can't have chili without some meat!!!

I have friends who have said that before.

Gootsie 8 years, 7 months ago

Lib_ee12, don't be ashamed. Experience has shown that Consumer1 is quite clever and usually has some hidden pun. You will catch on!

Topside 8 years, 7 months ago

E_M-If your a woman than I'm with it.

Shelby 8 years, 7 months ago

The chocolate thing is interesting. I saw a recipe for Hassenfeffer(sp?) once that did essentially the same thing...I remember reading the quote by the author, "The semi-sweet chocolate is a rather strange addition to this traditional recipe but it turns out to be absolutely brilliant."

Topside 8 years, 7 months ago

Topside does not swing that way! It's cool if it's your thing, but Topside loves the ladies, they rev my engine.

-Not that there's anything wrong with that!

citizenx 8 years, 7 months ago

Y'know what's tasty? Emu.

Ceallach 8 years, 7 months ago

I have enjoyed the taste of bison on many occasions. At one time Haskell sponsored an annual graduation dinner for their students, families and any of the Lawrence community that cared to attend. I hope they have continued that practice but am not sure. It has been many years since any of my family attended Haskell. I still love the Pow Wows but have not attended graduation. Annnnyyyyywwwaaaayyy - they always served delicious Buffalo Burgers. Many others have testified to the unique flavor bison adds to meatloaf, sloppy joes, pastas, etc. It's all true.

My concern is that once it becomes the "in" thing to eat producers will start shoving the corn, antibiotics and growth hormones to them and their meat will soon be just as unhealthy as beef.

Ceallach 8 years, 7 months ago

trap door buffalos!!!! LOL

omb: you are a true comic genius -- in a funny, yet oh so scary way :):)

ms_canada 8 years, 7 months ago

I have tasted bison/buffalo. We have several farmers here in Alberta who are raising beefalo. And I think I don't need to explain that. The meat is becoming quite popular. And OMB is right, Chili con carne is just that, chili with meat. No beans. I have made Mole Poblano and the chocolate in the recipe is not noticed in the finished product but adds something to the taste, not sure what. So many spices in the recipe.
Another thing, having travelled extensively in Mexico, I have never seen chili con carne on the menu anywhere, I believe that is a strictly Texas dish. Am I right, OMB or anyone else in the know? BTW I have survived the Edmonton Folk Music Festival for another year. It was great. Allison Kraus and John Prine closed the fest on Sun. nite. Another great artist was Johnny Clegg, the white Zulu from S. Africa. He put on a terrific show. Many wonderful musicians, all in all. One thing I wanted to tell you all. When we put our tarp down on the hill in front of the main stage and leave it there with all our possessions, we can go away for the other stage sessions and come back hours later and nothing has been touched. There seems to be a code of honour among folk m. fans I believe, and I am talking about no fewer than 15,000 people. I think that is great!!

GreenEyedBlues 8 years, 7 months ago

I was at Pizza Hut once and there was a little placemat that said something to the effect of "We Use Only the Best Ingredients to Make the Best Pizza".

It then listed "Meat, Veggies, Grains, and PEOPLE" I'm sure it was referring to the Pizza Hut staff and all of the talent it takes to make such wonderful pizza . . .. . .. . .. . Or was it?

E_M That is SO super scandalous! =P

neopolss 8 years, 7 months ago

Das_Ubermime, am I the only one who sees a grail reference there? Perhaps we should talk llama meat!

GreenEyedBlues 8 years, 7 months ago

I can't believe all of these rump-pokin' spelunker comments have stayed this long! ACK! LOL

GreenEyedBlues 8 years, 7 months ago

Yes sir! LOL Have you ever had Bengal Spice by Celestial Seasonings? It's PERFECT! And 100% cruelty-free [no tigers].

Staci Dark Simpson 8 years, 7 months ago

Buffalo is good stuff! Has lots of buffalo burgers in my time and they were juicy. Chili is fantastic with buffalo.

Could you imagine eating a goat taco? Goats eat anything that is disgustin to think of what you might be consuming when eating goat.

By the way, chicks dig guys that eat kitty!!

wichita_reader 8 years, 7 months ago

Remember, davidryan is watching you!

sailorette 8 years, 7 months ago

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Ceallach 8 years, 7 months ago

extreme_makeover: We're going to need a LOT more cages :) and you may have to get used to being one of the more reserved posters ;)

wichita_reader 8 years, 7 months ago

Hey all: I was just joking with the davidryan comment. Please keep making me laugh.

Ceallach 8 years, 7 months ago

That would be it :)

Ben_Meover 8 years, 7 months ago

Indianus Jones? Hey, that's funny! You know something? That's the exact same name that my wife calls me whenever we're in the sack together and she's buns-up kneeling (About to surrender to the feeling!) and I'm kneeling down directly behind her clutching my bullwhip, and I'm about to...........

Ann_Plowme 8 years, 7 months ago

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Ben_Meover 8 years, 7 months ago

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kansas 8 years, 7 months ago

Yes, I've been reading both boards for much of the afternoon, Redneck Gal. And you know something? "Mister Joe" sounds very passionate about older men taking advantage of younger women, and frankly, I don't blame him one bit! There is something rather disturbing about a twenty-nine year old man having sex with a sixteen year old girl (past or present).

And as far as this board goes, what's with all of the "anal talk"?

lunacydetector 8 years, 7 months ago

i had bison once. it was a bison cutlet. when i bit into it, it had the thickest and toughest piece of fat. wondering what the heck it was, i ended up pulling out an artery about 8 inches long. i don't know if the vein was thrown on top when it was being made into a cutlet or what. it was sick and i will never eat it again.

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