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Would you want the city to offer weekly curbside recycling if you had to pay about $11 more each month?

Asked at Massachusetts Street on October 28, 2004

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Photo of Patrick Moodie

“I would say no. Most of my stuff gets recycled as it is. I don’t think it’s too much to ask, but is it really going to make a difference?”

Photo of Rebekah Heacock

“Yes. I am part of Delta Force at KU, and we have been working toward weekly recycling pick-up. I think that a lot more people would recycle.”

Photo of Brett Toomay

“I’ve seen it in other cities, and only about half the people pay attention to what they throw away. I would say sure. Why not pay a little more.”

Photo of Sean McGuffie

“I think that’s too high, but I live close to Wal-Mart, so it’s no big deal for me. In most places it’s about 5 bucks.”

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consumer1 9 years, 5 months ago

Posted by consumer1 on October 29 at 7:49 a.m.

Today's question is...

What do you think about the Madona condom give away taking place on campus?

My answer, I am not sure whether I think it is a good idea or not. The basic premis is probably good, that is giving away condoms to promote safe sex. However, using transvestites seems to only promote the gay agenda. I am opposed to this. Okay now all of you heterosexual phobes come out and say, "what are you affraid of man"??? Because we all know, that when someone questions your actions you only know how to call names and try to intimidate those questioning you. You don't have any quality dialog about the subject.

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Fishman 9 years, 5 months ago

You've got to be kidding! $11.00 per month!! Is this a division of Haliburton?? The money they make from what they pick up should hopefully be enough to pay for it. I somehow doubt that Wal-Mart is altruistic enough to be paying one thin dime for the recycling they do. I am very glad they do it, but Wal-Mart isn't in anything, unless there's money to be made!! I have a friend from San Francisco that went to recycle at Wal-Mart with me when he first moved here, and after I loaded a ton of stuff in the bins, he was shocked that I wasn't paid anything. Out there, you get paid to recycle. It takes 20 times less foreign oil to recycle an aluminum can than to make one from scratch!! If you don't recycle, it unfortunately makes the USA more dependent on energy needs!! So please recycle, it's not that big of deal!

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consumer1 9 years, 5 months ago

To reader.

That is what I figured . So, read my post above yours. I decided to ask the question of the day.

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Reader 9 years, 5 months ago

What Happened Today? LJW Couldn't Come Up With Any Question Today? Did Someone Call In Sick? Man! Talk About Your Recycling! We Must Be Recycling This Question From Yesterday! Today!!

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consumer1 9 years, 5 months ago

Today's question is...

What do you think about the Madona condom give away taking place on campus?

My answer, I am not sure whether I think it is a good idea or not. The basic premis is probably good, that is giving away condoms to promote safe sex. However, using transvestites seems to only promote the gay agenda. I am opposed to this. Okay now all of you heterosexual phobes come out and say, "what are you affraid of man"??? Because we all know, that when someone questions your actions you only know how to call names and try to intimidate those questioning you. You don't have any quality dialog about the subject.

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Savage 9 years, 5 months ago

I would like to thank the network guys at ljworld for now accepting wap gprs (browser) transmissions from pda type/cell phones (Blackberry's Rock!). My upoads didn't seem to work until now. Peace.

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Savage 9 years, 5 months ago

I really wonder if the planet earth is really having a hard time keeping up. That's ironic since we receive the recycleables from the earth in the first place. Another deep thought by Savage.

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hoof_hearted 9 years, 5 months ago

lunacycollector:

thanks for takin' the heat off me pal! Looks like yer the dog that gets kicked today! It's all good!!

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jonas 9 years, 5 months ago

And I don't know where you got the idea that my peace of mind hinges on your $11. I drive to wal-mart to do my recycling, and have no problems doing that.

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jonas 9 years, 5 months ago

Wow, I never realized that small numbers, multiplied by very large numbers, become very large numbers. Thanks.

I would say something about the rest, but I just can't see anything I could say that could crack, or top, the depths of ignorance in that last post. I really hope that was not serious.

At any rate, you never answered to my idea. Should we call the city developers, and tell them we have space to "start making oil for future generations?"

BTW, the whole problem is that the human race consumes resources, and produces garbage, MUCH faster than the earth can keep up.

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akuna 9 years, 5 months ago

Can't we reduce it to a monthly thing. I collect everything that is recyclable for a few months and then trek out to Wal-mart to recyle it. It it not that big of a deal holding onto my recycling for a month. If monthly recycling would work and the math works out, then we'd all pay around 4 buck for recylcing a month. I can handle that.

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lunacydetector 9 years, 5 months ago

Please Jonas pay my $11.00 monthly fee so you can have "peace of mind." Actually, just pay me a year in advance. That's nothing....only $132.00.

Let's see....if there are 25,000 households paying $11.00 a month for a "fee" - that equates to $275,000 a month or $3,300,000 a year.

Not sure how many household are in Lawrence, but say there are 100,000 people living here....and there are 50,000 houselholds.....that's only $6.6 MILLION a year.

I say let mother earth naturally recycle my garbage. In a million years, our childrens childrens childrens etc, will get some crude oil out of it. So in essence, we are helping our future generations by NOT recycling.

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Adam 9 years, 5 months ago

I am a former resident of Lawrence, and the city I now live in has a recycling program. It is great and everyone uses it. $11 is a little high, considering that this will greatly reduce the amount of "trash" that will be collected. The idea is good, but I think $5 is more realistic.

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Hi_Jinks 9 years, 5 months ago

mrcairo.....

Lawrence is full of "big box stores" such as Target, Wal Mart, Home Depot, Best Buy, and other large ratailers such as Sears, JCPenny, etc. And all of these giants, if I am not mistaken, have a starting full-time wage of, what?, 8 or 9 bucks an hour? Or something like that. (And that's for a retail floor job---not a management job!) Anyway, added to that is the fact that Lawrence is a college town.....So retailers in Lawrence know that it is an "employers' market", not a "would-be employee's market". In Lawrence, there is no incentive to raise hourly wages to what many of us here would consider "acceptable" or "realistic" as a means with which to survive. (Especially if you have kids!)

Given this.....I would hardly blame the Republicans for you or anyone else's inability to live AND WORK here in Lawrence. Face it, if you want to live a comfortable life here in Lawrence, well.....You better set your sights on something that's a little higher/ better paying than those places I just mentioned. And that's just a cold, hard present-day reality of life! Perhaps you should direct your anger/frustration at Wal Mart.

And believe me, even with John Kerry calling the shots, places like Wal Mart are sooo huge and sooo powerful, they will, indeed, continue to pay the wages that they see fit to pay. John Kerry isn't going to be able to twist any corporate giant's arm any more than you or I might be able to!

And if, by chance, the political landscape changes such that somehow a giant like Wal Mart feels pressured into raising its wages across the board....well, they'll just either, a.) raise their prices ever so slightly, or b.) keep many of their part-time employees part-time, and give those part-time employees little or no benefits at all! In addition, giants like Wal Mart will take back some benefits (or reduce them in some way) from their ful time staff.---And they can do this with ease, because as we all know, Wal Mart does not have a unionized workforce!

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hoof_hearted 9 years, 5 months ago

Sorry I'm late posting friends! I've been at the recycling center with another boatload of "Kerry/Edwards" signs that have been cluttering up the town! Whew! It's hard work, but I get top dollar for that junk! And speaking of recycling....

mrcairo has the perfect recycled babbling response that is so very typical of the libs.....

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nicegirl 9 years, 5 months ago

mrcairo: Quit using that stupid analogy! Everyone is way over it. Secondly, while a good paying job is sometimes difficult to find, it is possible to work for more than $8.00 in Lawrence regardless of what you may think. Both my husband and myself do just that. In fact, my husband makes a lot more than $8/hr working here. IT depends on your field and what kind of job you're willing to do. Secondly, the value of your dollar is cut in half every 10 years and that has been happening for decades. It has happend with no regard to the political party that is holding office. Somehow I doubt that putting your car in (D) next Tuesday will dramatically change that.

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mrcairo 9 years, 5 months ago

To Consumer1: In order to get paid for your skills, you MUST find a job in Johnson County. You will never make more than 8.00 an hour regardless of your level of education in Douglas County, Lawrence in particular.

Forget not, that your actual buying power has decreased markedly since the takeover of the Government. The price of everything has risen rapidly, while your pay and benefits have been cut.

If you want to move Forward you put your car in (D), if you want to go backwards you put your car in (R). Vote Tuesday to move FORWARD.

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jonas 9 years, 5 months ago

Let's build the next landfill in "Lunacy"detector's backyard, so he can cheer mother earth on as she efficiently goes about the process of "eating it."

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consumer1 9 years, 5 months ago

Nicegirl. I am in shock most of the time. The price of housing in this town is outrageous. I always thought when I got my degree, I would be able to live "better". It seems now a college degree is equal to a high school degree from 20 years ago. I know it depends upon the degree paths we choose, to a certain degree (ha). I think there are also ethical issues at hand here. I refuse to sell my soul for the power of gold. Finding a meaningful career where you feel you are doing something useful to human kind is difficult enough, but to just chuch it all and work 70-80 hours a week, only to find your kids are out of school and moving away from (that 1/2 million dollar ) home wasn't the choice I made, somehow, I still wonder, what the heck do they do? My girlfriend is convinced, everyone is in hock up to their necks and homelessness is just an accident away. So, sorry about this diatribe that is way off the mark. So, no I don't need anymore useles programs to pay for.

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lunacydetector 9 years, 5 months ago

Hell No! $11.00 a month is ridiculous. A fee is another name for a tax.

I say let mother earth eat it.

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nicegirl 9 years, 5 months ago

Thank you Consumer1. My husband and I always drive through those neighborhoods and wonder what the hell those people do for a living! It obviously wasn't their degree from KU that pays for those houses.

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consumer1 9 years, 5 months ago

To Reader, you raise many good points. Often, trash is spilled and NOT picked up by the city employee's. Another thought is, This $11.OO FEE is bound to be just the begining fee. As the program grows so will the cost. So, I say not just no, but, H*** NO!. We don't want another cost inefficient program burdoning our already over burdoned income in the land of "Who lives in all those 1/2 million dollar houses and where do they work"??

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Reader 9 years, 5 months ago

If The Program Is Ran By The "City Of Lawrence", ie. Who, What, And How Many Different Vehicles Would Be Used To Pick It Up? The Sanitation Crew? I've Been Told Already, Have A Weight Limit Of How Many lbs They "Will" Lift. Depending On "Weekly" Or "Bi-Weekly" Pickup. Can We Expect Different Day Pick ups? For Glass, Newspapers, Cardboard, Ect...Or All At Once? How Will They Keep It Separated? Will The Purchase Of "Special" Vehicles Be Required To Do This Kind Of Service? What About The Winter Months? We Don't Even See A Snow Plow In Our Neighborhood Until (If We're Lucky!) Three Snow Falls Later? It'll Probably Sit Out Front Until Spring. Like I Said Before, I Was Still Sweeping Sand Out Of My Drive Until Mid Summer, Remember (No Street Cleaning On My Block) So What Are The Guarantees That My $11.00 (Forced Upon Us Increase) Will Be Fullfilled On A Regular Basis? If Someone "Accidentally" (And I'm Using This Term Very Loosely) Drops And Breaks A Container Of Glass, (Colors Separated Of Course?) Who's Going To Be Responsible For Cleaning It Up? I Would Hate To Think It Would Be "My Responsibility" For A Job "Not Well Done"! I Already Make Trips To The Recycling Centers. Lonnie's, For Cash On My Cans. BTW (Is An Incentive All By Itself), A Little Cash Back For My Effort. Newspapers, Are Just Around The Corner, And Wal-Mart, When I'm Out That Way. Another Thought. Is This "Fee" Going To Coincide With The "Flat Water Fee" They're Talking About Also? Or Is Going To Be "Separate Fee" As Well? We'll See? These Are Just A Few Thoughts I Would Like To Know!

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nicegirl 9 years, 5 months ago

I just read the article pertaining to this question. I think that recycling is good, but if I choose not to recycle I don't want to pay twice as much as I already am for trash service. I really don't think that it will help more people recycle, it's just a way to get everyone to pay out more money. And I'm with most of the other people on this board regarding why the cost is so much higher than it is for similar programs in other cities.

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Ceallach 9 years, 5 months ago

No, $11 per month is too high. Taking our recycling to Wal-Mart is easy enough and it gives us a chance to include our children and grandchildren thereby teaching them the importance of recycling.

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The_Original_Bob 9 years, 5 months ago

Mrcairio - I'll help you. 5 bucks a house 8-12 houses a block. Who knows how any blocks in Lawrence... We'll be rich I tell ya, rich!

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mrcairo 9 years, 5 months ago

If you're not Recycling, you're just throwing it all away.

I believe more people would participate if the city picked it up, however, $11.00 a month is way out there. Where do they come up with these numbers? Tell the City I'll sub-contract the entire job for $5.00 a month.

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The_Original_Bob 9 years, 5 months ago

I wasn't clear...

The $1 tag obviously cost extra (buy it at Ace hardware or a grocery store).

The recycling end of it does not cost extra. It's curbside pickup biweekly.

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The_Original_Bob 9 years, 5 months ago

$11 is a bit ridiculous. I live over in KCMO and we have a big tub we put paper, aluminum, plastic, etc... in (no glass). The city allows us 2 curbside trash bags per week. If you have more than that, you must tie on a $1 tag. Very simple. And it doesn't cost extra. I used to put out 3-4 bags everyweek and now I am almost looking for trash to fill up a second bag. Took a bit of adjustment but I'm very happy with the process.

Having the community subsidize recycling is ignorant. The city saves money when it's not taking as much trash to the dump. And how it would cost $11 per month is beyond me.

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Richard Heckler 9 years, 5 months ago

I say DO IT! Right now we pay 15.00 a month for weekly service. 11.00 per month might provide a new job for someone. Considering the cost of gasoline Wal-Mart is too far...probaly cannot drive to and fro for less than $2.00.

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consumer1 9 years, 5 months ago

No, a flat fee is not appropriate. There are those of us who produce very little refuse by already recycling. If I am required to pay the $11. fee, will those that live in sororities be required to pay $11. per head for each individual living in a house? If Rebekah were paying her own bills she would be less likely to be willing to spend it for extraneous programs like the one proposed.

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craigers 9 years, 5 months ago

No. I don't want $11 more a month for somebody to just pick up my aluminium cans. That is rediculous. If I wanted to recycle I would drive myself to either Wal-Mart or some other recycling place and dispose of my waste. $11 is a little much, especially with all the other rising costs of water and gas.

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Hi_Jinks 9 years, 5 months ago

Over the past year, I took advantage of the Pilot Program for yard waste disposal. Every few months I would call a number and receive a bundle of big paper bags to put leaves and grass clippings in. The bags were large and sturdy---and recyclable! From what I understand, starting next year, people will be required to dispose of their yard waste in recyclable bags.--Assuming you have more yard waste than what will fit in an ordinary trash can(s). No more Hefty trash bags! So next year, everyone will be require to purchase their own bags for such waste. That's the cost of recycling, I guess! (Or at least part of the over all cost, anyway!)

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Jane 9 years, 5 months ago

No. I would be willing IF people would have to pay for their trash by the pound because some people have so much trash and others, like myself, have very little trash.

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