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Are you showing support for a presidential candidate with any political T-shirts, buttons, bumper stickers or yard signs?

Asked at Massachusetts Street on October 11, 2004

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Photo of Darla Buckley

“I have a yard sign for Kris Kobach, but nothing for a presidential candidate. I haven’t decided yet.”

Photo of Stephanie Staves

“Yes. I have a T-shirt that says ‘Somewhere in Texas a village is missing an idiot.’”

Photo of Myron Weiss

“No. I don’t like to broadcast it in that way. I don’t want someone taking it out on my car or house.”

Photo of Trudy Cook

“Actually I am not. I just haven’t gone out and gotten any yet.”

Comments

nicegirl 10 years, 2 months ago

"He will spread love across the world". Isn't that the approach that Bill Clinton took?? One intern at a time?? Of course Kerry doesn't lie. He is a politician after all. And considering he married a woman worth $500 million, is she really the lucky one?

jonas 10 years, 2 months ago

AHHHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

uh. . . no.

Carmenilla 10 years, 2 months ago

hoof_hearted is no longer allowed to use the word "Yo".

jonas 10 years, 2 months ago

Hi-jinks: Man! Spoil my fun with logic, will you. Very eloquent, though.

Hi_Jinks 10 years, 2 months ago

You can clearly see why the First Commandment is the First Commandment. It's basically God's way of "setting the record straight" concerning who he is, before he goes any further.

I guess a popular contemporary phrase that fits here would be God saying......"I'm your daddy!"

jonas 10 years, 2 months ago

The only one I would put on my car:

KTHULHU 2004 WHY VOTE FOR THE LESSER EVIL?

I've heard they actually make it, too.

italianprincess 10 years, 2 months ago

All I have on my front yard is........God Bless America

To much vadalizing going on in this town to have much of anything of your yard or car........

Larry 10 years, 2 months ago

Yes! On my work truck. Go BUSH!

I just can't find a reason to support John "Eddie Haskell" Kerry. "Ah gee Mrs. Cleaver, maybe Wallace, I and the Beaver should raise taxes to pay for all these billions of dollars of new programs, but I promise, I won't raise Mr. Cleavers taxes. (Smile, wink, wink.) ---- June Cleaver has a worried look on her face knowing Eddie as she does.

nicegirl 10 years, 2 months ago

I have a gigantic hot pink Lulu for President sign in my front yard.

Hi_Jinks 10 years, 2 months ago

Well, let's see..... In this city that we live in, with its "politically-charged atmosphere".........

The very idea of wearing a t-shirt around town, with any sort of political message emblazoned across the chest area , could get you a black eye. So it would seem to me, that only a masochist would do so!

Proudly displaying a bumper sticker is, without question, an open invitation for someone to run their car key down the side of your car. (BTW, do you know how much your deductible is? I know how much mine is!!)

And I wouldn't put any kind of politically-inspired "jumbo-sign" on my front lawn for a million dollars! Why is that, you ask? Because it is my belief that displaying a lawn sign, for all the world to see, might very well explain the strange disappearance of the family cat, "Louise".

---And I like cats! Cats are cool! And "Louise" is my buddy!

So, no, I choose not to publicly display my party affiliation or support for a certain candidate.

(Somehow, I just think it's safer that way!)

Louise?

Louise?

Where are you Louise?

Loooooooou..weeeeeeez?

.......Oh, there you are Weezie!

Whew!!!

Mari Aubuchon 10 years, 2 months ago

I have signs for Kerry-Edwards, Moore, and Shew on my front lawn in OWL. After the game on Saturday night, they were all vandalized. 'Nuff said.

Carmenilla 10 years, 2 months ago

Yes, jonas, I know of what you speak....I proudly bear the "Cthulhu 2004: Why vote for the lesser evil?" sticker on my car. It's the best bumper sticker for these troubled times and can be yours for a measly fiver on the 'net. Check it out......

jonas 10 years, 2 months ago

Carmenilla: Thanks for the tip! And the spelling correction. I get my Lovecraft and my Metallica confused at times. Though I guess this one was sort of a melding of the two.

Hi_Jinks 10 years, 2 months ago

Actually, nicegirl, every story that I've read about Heinz-Kerry puts her personal fortune in the three-and-a-half billion dollar range! (But your point remains intact, and is very well put!) :) !

Carmenilla 10 years, 2 months ago

Cthulhu is an ancient evil from a dark and shadowy netherworld. Kinda like politicians today. So he's the perfect pick for prez in 2004. You don't have to choose the lesser of two evils when the ultimate evil is right here, right now. If you want to know more about Cthulhu, you can read his "bio" on the 'net. Or go pick up some H.P. Lovecraft to read. Either way he's my pick for 2004!!!

Carmenilla 10 years, 2 months ago

It was Satan, Son of Sam......You should stop listening to those voices in your head.

jonas 10 years, 2 months ago

Hoof-Hearted: That was, of course, Bush. I doubt Jesus would say something like that. Of course, the context has always been difficult to determine, when we presume to know the mind of god. God, per his narration, really kind of likes being cruel on occasion. So his retributions and later gifts seem better, I suppose. So maybe the terrorists are doing God's work, after all.

Oh, and the full Kerry quote is this:

"We have to get back to the place we were, where terrorists are not the focus of our lives, but they're a nuisance: I know we're never going to end prostitution. We're never going to end illegal gambling. But we're going to reduce it, organized crime, to a level where it isn't on the rise. It isn't threatening people's lives every day, and fundamentally, it's something that you continue to fight, but it's not threatening the fabric of your life."

Bad analogies, to be sure, but the point remains the same. A war on terror is not a war we can win, only contain, or minimize the damage. Bush himself has admitted this, in a rare moment of candor, but then reversed himself the next day when the polls showed unfavorable reactions.

craigers 10 years, 2 months ago

Yes, Bush did admit that terror is a war we cannot win, only reduce. However, didn't Kerry voice his opinion as well that "We will win the war on terror."????? I was pretty sure he made that comment, didn't he? So according to your quote, is Kerry admitting that Bush was right when he originally said that the war on terrorism isn't a war that can be won?

Lulu 10 years, 2 months ago

I proudly display my Kerry Edwards stickers on the backside of my car. It is wonderful to live in a community where so many support my point of view.

John Kerry will be the best president this nation has ever seen. He is a wonderful man and wonderful husband. He is honest and does not lie like shrub does. He will not raise our taxes. He will not draft our children. He will win the peace in these screwed up wars shrub got us into. He will make the corporations pay their fair share of taxes so loopholes will be closed so Enron like companies won't get a tax break. He will reward the honest and punish the dishonest. He will keep companies from outsourcing to other countries. He is a straight shooter. To call him a flip flopper is a flip flop. He will spread love across the world.

He is a wonderful man. Teresa is a very lucky womyn to actually find a kind and decent and quite articulate man like John.

Hi_Jinks 10 years, 2 months ago

"He will spread love across the world." (LuLu speaks!)

Gee, LuLu.....judging by the wonderful, glowing, almost super human-like description you just gave.......

Are you sure you're talking about John Kerry?

.....Because to me, it sounded more like Jesus of Nazareth than John Kerry! I mean, the only things you left out were......"heal the sick"...."raise the dead"....and "make the blind see"!!

jonas 10 years, 2 months ago

Well, that's a good question, isn't it? How CAN you know god's will when the very tenets of his accepted words and writings say that doing so is not only wrong but impossible. "We see through a glass darkly." Perhaps it could be argued that all of it is simply an appeal to authority, whether tangible or intangible, couldn't it?

blackwalnut 10 years, 2 months ago

I have a Kerry sticker on my car. I don't have one in my yard because I live on a street with no traffic except my own neighbors, and I feel my car stickers is enough of a statement to them.

You'd be surprised, you Bush supporters, how many honks and thumbs-ups I get for having a Kerry sticker on my car.

jonas 10 years, 2 months ago

Because Jesus knew it was a sin to presume to know the mind of God.

Carmenilla 10 years, 2 months ago

Hoof_hearted is the Lulu for the "other" side.

jonas 10 years, 2 months ago

Man, it's one of the commandments! Put no thing before God, which would include your own plans and beliefs. Also taking his name in vain. Are you saying that Jesus wouldn't agree with the commandments?

pike 10 years, 2 months ago

uhhhh.. Who ever votes for Bush is in denial or still thinks they are on a high school football team. WAKE UP AND LOOK AT THE FACTS!!!! factcheck.org even back up the Kerry campaign most of the time. THANKS TO DICK FOR THE PUBLICITY

Hi_Jinks 10 years, 2 months ago

Commandment numero uno states: "I am the Lord thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Commandment #2: Thy shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain. Commandment #3: Basically says not to make ANY graven images and/or bow down to them. So.....To address both hoof_hearted's post and Jonas' post, it would seem to me that the first commandment basically says there are no other gods but me (God), there never have been any other gods but me, nor will there ever be any others! I am the be all and end all....and don't you people forget it! So it's my impression that God is saying lliterally that he is the one true God, he has no competition in that department.---He is not saying don't make your work or your beliefs your god. He's saying that there are no other spiritual beings like him. A belief (such as the beliefs George Bush has) is not a god, of any sort. So technically Jonas, when you say that Bush putting his beliefs concerning terrorism before God, is breaking the First Commandment, well, no it's not. If Bush feels in his heart that he's carrying out God's word, he may very well be guilty of carrying some sort of "false witness" against God, for he will be held accountable by God for having done so, but technically, Bush saying he believes he knows how God feels about terrorism and he (Bush) is determined to carry out God's will through the use of the Oval Office is not, in fact, breaking the first commandment. Also, God never means to be "cruel" simply for the sake of being cruel. But that's what you meant, didn't you. I mean, if you interpret the Biblical flood that wiped out many, many people as being an act of cruelness, well, that's your interpretation of that event. however, others would interpret the flood simply as God's judgement against what was at that moment in time, a world full of unrepentant sinners. (Not counting Noah and his family of course!) Lastly, it is a sin to "pretend" to know God (basically to lie) and to tell others what you think God wants you to do! ----Perhaps this is what you think Bush is doing. If he is doing this, well, he should change his ways in a hurry, for his (Bush's) sake! (Spiritually speaking.) It is not a sin, however, to strive to know God! And I think this is where hoof_hearted comes in! God wants nothing else but for you and everyone else to know him! Spread his word through speech and good deeds. Give testimony! It is not a sin to strive to be like God, just don't ever, for one moment, think that/convince yourself that you are a God!!!! Being "God-like" means to forgive others, love others, turn away from sin, and spread peace and love everywhere. Just as God would do. The lone exception would be, that God says he will deal with the unrepentant sinners come Judgement Day, and for us mere mortals not to condemn others' hearts, minds, and/or souls when others' sin! Larry? Savage? Anyone?

Larry 10 years, 2 months ago

BlackwalNUT - come over here to Johnson County and see how many thumbs up and honks you get. You may get some honks, but I doubt that it will be the thumb that is up. Of course, I wouldn't participate in such a gesture.

Hi_Jinks - Sorry man! Just got home. I'm trying to make as much money as I can incase the American people listen to the media and decide to vote Eddie Haskell, I mean John Kerry in. People who don't watch the debates listen to closely to the liberal media. Bush kicked Eddie Kerry's butt last Friday. Problem is that John Haskell is such a smooth talker that people jump on his billion dollar program campaign. My taxes will increase two fold if Kerry wins.

The thing that comes to my mind is Scripture says that Jesus did NOT perform any miracles in his home town because the people did NOT believe in him. If Bush is faking it, he will get it in the end. However, I don't believe he is faking it. I truly believe that Bush depends on prayer and seeks the Lord's will in all his decisions. People are crazy to think that being a Christian means that you have to be perfect. Not being perfect or sin free is exactly why we become Christian's in the first place. As we strive to become sanctified, we should become closer to God and learn how better to behave like Jesus.

Jonas - to say that "maybe" the terrorist are doing God's work is the most ridiculous thing that I have ever heard. I'll tell you what - you find Scripture to back up your stance and I'll find Scripture to back up my stance that America has been the most blessed nation in the history of the world because we #1 - protect Israel, #2 - send more missionary's and money to poverty stricken countries than any other country on this Earth, #3 - we've never taken over another country after any of the wars and #4 - in the past, we have recognized God first on our money, prayers before Congressional meetings, etc. Hopefully that isn't going to change. We have traditional placed God first, but if the liberal left and the ACLU has its way, we are in deep trouble.

Hi_Jinks 10 years, 2 months ago

I think I need to clarify something....

A good example to me of breaking the First Commandment:

Worshipping and giving praise to another "spiritual being" or "living entity" of some kind. Satan or a fellow human being would be examples of a "spiritual being" (Satan) human beings (living entity). You know, kind of like the way millions of Germans worshipped Hitler and believed him to be their "personal saviour" If you believe that someone or something created you and/or is your "spiritual saviour/redeemer"---other than God Himself, well, then it would seem to me that you are indeed guilty of breaking the First Commandment.

I do think that this is what God had in mind when he came up with the First Commandment. I am your creator, I am your redeemer, I am life-everlasting. If you humans claim that there are other SPIRITUAL BEINGS AND/OR ENTITIES like me, and you worship that being (Satan for example) you are breaking my most sacred of all rules!!!

Am I making myself any clearer?

jonas 10 years, 2 months ago

Larry: That particular quip was just to get a rise out of HH, not to posit a valid opinion. But just for Sh-- and giggles, I WILL make a theory. If you look at the Moses story, you will note that each time Moses asks the Pharoah to release his people, it states that God himself hardens Pharoah's heart, in order to make sure that he says no. The reason for it, in God's own words (perhaps paraphrased) is so that he can can then employ his powers and miracles so that everyone, or at least the Israelis, will know and respect him as the Ultimate Being, and know what happens to people who oppose them. More on this in a bit.

To find a story in the Bible about a people having their faith tested through misery or suffering is hardly a chore. The slavery of the Israelites, the sufferings of Job, the hellish torture of Christ himself, etc. If Job's suffering was caused by God himself, who's to say the rest of it isn't either, to, perhaps, provide a contrast for a life of goodness and piety. It's not a new idea: why is there bad if god is ultimately good. I would respond with the idea that god knows both are necessary in order to have understanding, so all that is bad springs from god, the same as all that which is good, which would include both the terrorists and those who fight them. I would further premise that god is above our ideas of good and bad, and so should not be limited by those views.

Back to my theory: if God was to play a game that essentially destroys a whole population just to set an example for future civilizations once, there is no reason to believe he might not do it again. Why not create 3 or 4 books of beliefs, all so vague as to enable 34 different interpretations of the same piece of text, all so passionately believed in that many would both die and kill for the strict interpretation that they hold, in order to facilitate, not a god using his powers to destroy a population, but a populations using it's own narrow-mindedness and inflexibility of dogma to destroy itself? The perfect lesson of the price of intolerence and arrogance for future civilizations of people.

Does that suffice?

jonas 10 years, 2 months ago

Luckily, though, a belief in the Christian god is not necessary to adhere to Christian ethics, which are quite laudable, springing, in the basics, simply from treat others as you would like to be treated.

jonas 10 years, 2 months ago

Oh, and I recall Christ saying that the gifts of the rich that don't strain their pocketbooks being not as valuable as the gifts of the poor when it does, or something to that effect.

And #4 includes Graven images, doesn't it?

Larry 10 years, 2 months ago

Jonas, I guess it comes down to whether or not you believe in Christianity. I can only assume that you do since you reference the suffering of Jesus. As for me, I think Jesus changed everything. I think God tried everything to get people to believe and trust in Him. I think that God believed that if people would not believe in Him after allowing His own son to be crucified, there was nothing else He could do in terms of speaking directly as He did to Moses, etc. Not that God has given up on us - but I think God has now left it up to us to believe in Him or not. To follow Him or not. He can't do anything else more spectacular than allow His own son to be crucified. If you can't believe in Him after that, you never will and God promises to bless those nations that demonstrate Faith and recognize God. America has done so in the past. Yet the ACLU and the liberal left want us to believe that our founding fathers did not intend for religion to be a part of our heritage. As we continue to allow the ACLU and the liberal left to take religion out of our society, I believe that God's blessings will slowly cease. We, as Christians need to wake up and take our country back.

You'll never hear the ACLU and the liberal left promoting the following quotes: Quote 1: "We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. We have staked the future of all of our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government; upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to The Ten Commandments." Quote 2: I therefore beg leave to move --that henceforth, prayers imploring the assistance of Heaven and its blessing on our deliberations, be held in this Assembly every morning before we proceed to business, and that one or more of the clergy of this city be requested to officiate in that service." Quote 3: "The Constitution....is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, which they may twist and shape into any form they please." Quote 4: "God who gave us life gave us liberty. Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed a conviction that these liberties are the gift of God."

Who said it? Quote 1: James Madison - Quote 2: Benjamin Franklin- 1787 Quote 3: Thomas Jefferson, September 6, 1819 Quote 4: Thomas Jefferson, 1781

POINT 1: President Grant did not sign into legislation that we take a "winter holiday" off every December. In fact, he signed into law that we take "CHRISTMAS holiday" off. Hence, you now understand why many Christians support President Bush. He gets it. He depends on God and recognizes that he needs God's help in making decisions that affect our country.

craigers 10 years, 2 months ago

Larry and Hi_Jinks, I must say right on to everything that you all said. I do however want to comment about the flood that somebody described as maybe a cruel punishment against an unrepentant people. I completely believe that God gave all of those people a chance and they didn't want to believe about the rain or that God was somebody worth fearing. Also in the Bible, we should remember that it says near the rapture of the church, that it will be as it was in the days of Noah. If you look at what those people were like in the Bible, you can see that they resemble our current state of activity in the world right now. I believe Matthew 24 gives a lot of information on what the "weather" will be like before Jesus returns. I know I got chills after reading it.
Jonas- I don't know how much book reading you do, but I do have a suggestion for you. It is called "Hell? Yes!". I read this book and it was great, and it addresses the very point that you make which is that God is responsible for all suffering. It opened my eyes for a couple of reasons. Here is one, christians always want to sugarcoat things as to not offend anybody, but God does have a plan and suffereing happens, and this was something that I caught myself doing when talking to others about tragedy. I would recommend this book to anyone, Larry, Hi_jinks, Hoofhearted, Carmenilla, but definitely Jonas since you brought that topic up. It is a great book and I believe it would even open the eyes of those who would be mature believers in Christ. Have a great day and sorry I didn't get to post this yesterday.

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