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Should independent advertisers stop airing negative ads for the presidential race?

Asked at the Java Break on August 24, 2004

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“No, people need to take in what they hear for themselves.”

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“It’s OK if it is not libelous or damaging.”

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“I think that if the candidates can advertise, then other people should be able to.”

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“No, because they can offer an unbiased opinion.”


Savage 13 years, 10 months ago

...except at the supreme court level.

mrcairo 13 years, 10 months ago

It's a free country. People are free to pretty much say what they want. But now without liability. I believe these people should spell out who they are, where they got their money, and be liable for inaccurate information.

ps: Good job on user registration. Too many people were making a mockery of this nice service. Could you limit the number of posts to 1 a day?

adrian 13 years, 10 months ago

Well, the slanderous ads clearly should stop, but otherwise I think independent ads should be encouraged.

I'd rather see a political ad -- which is arguably good for a democratic society in that it encourages political discourse -- than an ad for, say, McDonalds or Coke.

me 13 years, 10 months ago

Does it matter, really? Does anyone make their decision based on those ads? If so, that's pretty lazy and sad. I would hope that someone wouldn't decide who they're going to vote for in an important election like this based on what they see in a 30 second spot. But then again, most folks are like sheep aren't they?

Savage 13 years, 10 months ago

I wonder why it took so long to register here from hotmail or yahoo? Hours to receive the registration email. Any ideas tech-heads?

Richard Heckler 13 years, 10 months ago

The controversy regarding the debate certainly began before any democratic presidential candidate was chosen. Media has been requesting information from our president for awhile concerning his tour of military duty which is the core of this matter.

The Bush campaign seems to be using this as a tool in order to stop 527 funding of ads. The FEC refused to cave in some months ago on the question of 527 campaign funding from the Bush campaign. The FEC ruled they are legal and notified the Bush campaign in a very timely fashion along with a suggestion that if they wanted to use 527's the time is other words get started.

The Bush campaign likes to distort. On the matter of Pres. Bush's military history it's time to put up or shut up and lay out truthful ads regarding the real issues of the day. Also mountains of negative ads have a way of frustrating voters to the point where they decide not to vote...the very conservative right wing republicans understand this clearly. The ultra conservative right wing republicans will go to great lengths to unseat moderate republicans as well as democrats. Their favorite tool is avoid the issues and assassinate the character of an opponent through lies and distortions.

During high voter turnouts moderates from both sides of the aisle win elections.

In my estimation this what the Pres. Bush campaign is trying to keep from the voters by putting Kerry on the defensive otherwise known as distraction:

According to the Washington Post, "A review of Bush's military records shows that Bush enjoyed preferential treatment as the son of a then congressman, when he walked into a Texas Guard unit in Houston two weeks before his 1968 graduation from Yale and was moved to the top of a long waiting list."[2]

Then, between May 1972 and May 1973, he simply seemed to disappear. According to an in-depth study by the Boston Globe, there are no records available which indicate that he showed up for duty during that time.[3] His commanding officer doesn't recall seeing him.[4]

simon 13 years, 10 months ago

It's pretty depressing how well these things work. There are some serious questions about the legitimacy of the swift boat veterans ad for example, but the majority of voters who don't make the effort to get to the story behind the news are unlikely to ever find out about them - they'll just end up vaguely knowing that Kerry's service in Vietnam has come under fire.

If attack ads didn't work, people wouldn't use them.

Savage 13 years, 10 months ago

Thats right simon. Were not sheep either "me". If someone accused a candidate of a crime, that perhaps turned out to be true, who would vote for them? If the candidate you opposed has these attack ads, dems. would pretend not to like them, but deep down they would love it. Why not denounce or michael moore..then and only then can we level the playing field. To think that all swift vote vets for truth are lying is truly preposterous.

Savage 13 years, 10 months ago

Actually I believe your concerns about Bush, would be equal to my concerns about Kerry. However, All the swifty's against Kerry cannot be lying either just as Bob Dole stated. You see... talking to democrats about 527's gets us no where, due to the fact that the Michael Morre's and "Now (dot) org's" are full of lies also, or do you believe all their rhetoric word for word? I would suspect that most people who think bush is bad, becuase you cant find all of his Natl. guard papers, probably also think its Americas fault we were attacked on 911. Remember...How many months was Bush in office before we were attacked? The man was just getting started...Clinton left big gaping holes in everything, and was too much of a wimp to go in there and blow out those commie terrorists (bstrds). (most of the time)

adrian 13 years, 10 months ago

Savage: Hotmail and Yahoo can be very slow and unreliable in receiving e-mails. Unfortunately there's not much we can do about it on our end. Try a non-Hotmail-or-Yahoo domain, or just give Hotmail/Yahoo some time.

mdecoste 13 years, 10 months ago

All ads should state who their supporters are, where they get their money, etc. and be up front about it. In the New York times today, another link to the Bush campaign was uncovered as part of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth. I believe that ALL ads need to release their sources of information, and be honest in their portayal of the candiadates. Both sides of the aisle need to make sure what they are saying is the TRUTH, and not their perception of the TRUTH.

lunacydetector 13 years, 10 months ago

p> is a front group for the Democratic National Committee - they even have a link on their website. I wish the liberal press would expose this if they start implying Bush is involved with the Swiftboat Veterans.

The lies after lies that the Democratic Party keeps telling everyone is so hypocritical.

I am a registered Democrat who will be voting for Bush because the Democratic Party has lost touch. They need to stop pushing their immoral agenda on everyone - John Kerry's religious outreach directors have had to be silenced from within or have had to quit after being exposed as bigots. Another couple of examples of how the Democratic Party has lost touch. If the Democratic Party is going back to its bigotted roots, they are trying too hard to be inclusive. They need to find a middle ground.

On a side note: I find it highly ironic, that the liberals who promote the so-called pro-choice (pro-abortion) cause, are in fact losing voters by the attrition they so highly promote. It is only a matter of time before the Democratic Party will be forced to be inclusive. Quite possibly when the old hippies start dying off in the future.

MapMadeMind 13 years, 10 months ago

Did I just hear someone call the Democratic Party bigotted? Your entitled to your opinion, and it would be incorrect for me to state either party is without bias, but for my buck the Republican Party comes off as the more bigotted.

Savage 13 years, 10 months ago

You are so right. Unfortunately for most democrats, Im sure to accept your point of view in their minds would be to admit defeat. But would it be? A more mainstream Democratic Party would be ideal, but the homos. and extremist womens movement would have nowhere to go and be heard? Would they?...or would your middle of the road be a happy medium for all? It would really be nice to all get along. I do see compromise with the Republicans 1st and 2nd term abortions are ok, and civil unions are ok, but this doesnt seem acceptable to the groups. It seems they want an all or nothing kind of attitude, which backfired on them in Missouri and California. Perhaps it would that be a good start though. Also...this century new laws will be passed as to curtail the power of judges. They will only be able to enforce what the law says...pretty much word for word and not redefine it anymore. This seems to be a new movement in the legislative branch Im hearing.

Savage 13 years, 10 months ago

By the way...what is the proper terminology for someone who is gay? really.

Just Gay? Homosexual? Queer? which is it?

Im being serious... I really want to know.

Savage 13 years, 10 months ago

Im not trying to be facetious, even though now I wish I could take back the last question. TV shows seems to use all of the terminolgy these days. Anyways, would a democrat please speak from there heart a little bit and not just from your minds. what would you really like to see as far as reform?

Savage 13 years, 10 months ago

....meaning we could have been better prepared, but that does not make it anyones fault as Moore suggests. It just means someone could have done a better job.

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