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Trump’s attempts to prove widespread voter fraud appear to have stalled

President-elect Donald Trump greets Kansas Secretary of State, Kris Kobach, as he arrives at the Trump National Golf Club Bedminster clubhouse, Sunday, Nov. 20, 2016, in Bedminster, N.J. (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster)

President-elect Donald Trump greets Kansas Secretary of State, Kris Kobach, as he arrives at the Trump National Golf Club Bedminster clubhouse, Sunday, Nov. 20, 2016, in Bedminster, N.J. (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster)

January 22, 2018


— President Donald Trump hasn't backed away from his unsubstantiated claim that millions of illegally cast ballots cost him the popular vote in 2016, but his efforts to investigate it appear to have stalled.

He transferred the work of the commission investigating his claim to the Department of Homeland Security. This week, the department's top official made it clear that, when it comes to elections, her focus is on safeguarding state and local voting systems from cyberattacks and other manipulation.

While the U.S. Department of Justice has broad authority to investigate voter fraud claims, White House officials said previously that Homeland Security was the best agency to take over the work of the now-disbanded Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity. A Justice Department official declined comment this week on whether the agency was conducting any reviews related to voter fraud, but confirmed that no voter data collected by the commission, nor analysis of the data, was given to the agency before the commission was disbanded.

The end of the commission is welcome news to voting rights advocates concerned that its ultimate goal was to promote voter-suppression efforts. They and numerous state election officials were alarmed when the commission issued a broad request to states last spring for detailed information on their voters, including partial Social Security numbers, dates of birth, addresses and voting history.

"The commission was an unprecedented attempt to make it harder for ordinary Americans to vote and have their voices heard," said Kristen Clarke, head of the Lawyers' Committee on Civil Rights, which sued alleging the commission violated laws requiring transparency. "In the end, it was a monumental failure on the part of this administration and makes clear that this is an administration that does not place a premium on the right to vote."

An Associated Press tally showed that 15 states and the District of Columbia refused to turn over the voter data, many citing privacy concerns, and a handful of others had yet to decide by the time Trump ended the commission. Some of the states that pushed back against the commission's request for voter data were Republican-leaning, including North Dakota, South Carolina, Tennessee and Wyoming.

The White House announcement dissolving the commission said Trump had "asked the Department of Homeland Security to review its initial findings and determine next courses of action." But the director of White House Information Technology, Charles C. Herndon, said in recently filed court documents that the commission did not create any preliminary findings before it was disbanded. He also stated that none of the voter data collected by the commission will be transferred to or accessed by Homeland Security or any other federal agency, with the possible exception of the National Archives and Records Administration.

Herndon said the White House intended to destroy the voter data.

This past week, Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen testified that her agency views cybersecurity as its top election-related priority and is focused on working with state and local officials to secure their election systems from cyber threats and hackers. She called voter fraud a "large topic" that covers various federal agencies.

"The part that DHS plays, we are looking at the integrity of the cyber systems," Nielsen told U.S. senators at a hearing Tuesday on Capitol Hill. "We will continue to work with states and localities on that."

Last year, Homeland Security designated election systems as "critical infrastructure," on par with the electrical grid and water supply, and a 27-member council was formed with representatives from federal, state and local governments. A key priority has been establishing a process for sharing intelligence.

Nielsen did note that Homeland Security was available to assist states that have concerns about non-citizens voting in federal elections.

When asked whether the department intends to investigate claims of voter fraud, spokesman Tyler Q. Houlton said in an email that it is working with a "limited number" of states and counties that wish to verify the citizenship status of voters through a program managed by the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services. The agency also is evaluating how it might provide additional assistance to states, Houlton said.

While there have been isolated cases of voter fraud in the U.S., there is no evidence of it being a widespread problem.

The former vice chairman of the Trump commission — Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach — said previously that he planned to advise Homeland Security on the commission's work. This past week, he said he has not had any communication with the department, but remains in contact with the White House.

"When the president disbanded the commission, he did so with the expectation that DHS will take over the investigation," Kobach said in an interview.

It's not clear what, if anything, the Trump administration might do now to further investigate the president's voter fraud claims.


Fred Whitehead Jr. 3 months ago


You folks wanted this unqualified, ignorant, retarded, racist jerk. You got him.

Congratulations!!!!!!! You lose.

President Hillary Clinton should have been inaugurated, She won the popular vote.

Don't scream at me about the stupid "electoral college. It should have been abolished long before this colossal fraud of who is the legitimate winner of the election.

Sam Crow 3 months ago

In the AFC Championship game Jacksonville rushed for more yards than did New England.

Therefore Jacksonville should be going to the Super Bowl.

But, alas, the stupid rules say the team that scores the most points wins.

Shane Powers 3 months ago


So, using the word "retarded" for anything other than bread dough that is currently being refrigerated or fires that have been sprayed with an extinguisher is generally considered bad form.

I dislike the guy as much as the next person, but HRC was only a marginally better choice. And the fact remains, whether or not the electoral college "should" have been wasn't abolished. It exists and Donald Trump won it.

Everything else is spot on though.

Steve Hicks 3 months ago

How long will it take the self-declared genius to figure out it's really, REALLY, hard to prove what's not true ?

It says volumes about the man that he won't withdraw his lie, even though his own handpicked team (yay, Kris Kobach !) can find no evidence to support it.

Fred Whitehead Jr. 3 months ago

'But, alas, the stupid rules say the team that scores the most points wins."

That is how it works...........except for the most important office in the United States of America.

Hence.......we have an un-elected "president" in charge of an illegitimate "government".

So what does it matter whether the illegitimate "government" is "open" or "closed" is simply "fraudulent".

Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 3 months ago

Sam's analogy just proved our point. The person with the most points did not win the presidency.

Sam Crow 3 months ago

Now Dot even you know the rules count electoral points for the win.

It's time for you to get over it.

Bob Smith 2 months, 3 weeks ago

Go ... read .... the "Constitution", Fred. Come ... back .... after ... you've "educated" "yourself".

Steve King 3 months ago

The Electoral College. Such a fair system. Varies by State. Some split, some winner take all. Trump won all the EC votes in some States that he didn't even win 50% of the votes cast. Yep. That's a fine system we got right there.

Bob Smith 2 months, 3 weeks ago

The Constitution has been working as designed for over 200 years. The fact that Hillary was too bloody stupid to visit Wisconsin is not justification for changing it.

Bob Summers 3 months ago

No surprise here.

People under the influence hate, in their effectual code words, the "living breathing document".

These types of humans, that "hate", are not "good Americans".

Steve Hicks 3 months ago

Hope Kris Kobach uses the above photo when his campaign for governor gets going. It'll guarantee him the votes of the 30% of people who love Trump.

Hmmmm...or maybe he'll want to bury that photo DEEP, if it means 70% of voters will be offended by him mugging with Trump.

Of course, in Kansas the percentages may be the opposite. And then there are those millions of illegal voters who sneak across the border from cloud cuckoo-land, and always vote Republican...

Well, I'll leave it to the clever Mr. Kobach to slice and dice the numbers. He always knows how best to advance his sleazy political ambitions.

Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 2 months, 3 weeks ago

Funny how most of the few people who Kobach has busted have been registered Republicans. It seems that might be how Brownback won 3 years ago. Also a former GOP chairman was recently convicted and sentenced for forging his wive's mail in ballot and voting for her. Do Republicans just accuse other of what they are guilty? They are doing it, so they assume everyone is doing it.

Michael Kort 2 months, 3 weeks ago

A whole 15 fraudulent Kansas voters caught double voting in another state ( plus Kansas ) and most of those were older ( probably senile ) Republicans , two years of big time SOS investigating....... ....and at what $ cost per conviction ?

Apparently Trump finally got around to fact checking Kobachs great history of prosecuting voter fraud convictions in Kansas ? ? ?....Yep, all 15 of them !

Bob Summers 2 months, 3 weeks ago

The fraud starts at open borders.

Sanctuary cities and states.

Get a DL. You can vote.

c'est la vie Liberal existence.

Michael Kort 2 months, 3 weeks ago

Yes,....better to disband the investigation than to find out the truth,........that there were not 3 million fraudulent democratic votes cast in the last election......or maybe even a much, much, much smaller number than 3 million.........and that most of what they will find, will be Republican fraudsters ( based on Kansas Convictions ) who voted for Trump more than once somehow ?

Yep,.....time to end that investigation ! ! !

Michael Kort 2 months, 3 weeks ago

Yea,......" Speaking of pigeons......we all know of at least one in the Ks. executive branch, who pretty consistently homes back in on his own Kansas Republican party faithful " !

Where were all of the thousands and thousands of illegal alien voters ?..........we know ?........they all left in their space ships ( we need to build a dome over the US to keep those space aliens out of here ! ) .........but they'll al be back by the next election and living under a Republican CON.....servative bed or two here in Kansas .

Gary Stussie 2 months, 3 weeks ago

"unqualified, ignorant, retarded, racist jerk"

Worst case of Trump Derangement Syndrome, or TDS, I have seen!

LA Times lists symptoms of Trump Derangement Syndrome. Its all there Fred ... seek help!

In the first stage of the disease, victims lose all sense of proportion. The president-elect's every tweet provokes a firestorm, as if 140 characters were all it took to change the world.

The mid-level stages of TDS have a profound effect on the victim's vocabulary: Sufferers speak a distinctive language consisting solely of hyperbole.

As TDS progresses, the afflicted lose the ability to distinguish fantasy from reality.

In the advanced stages of the disease, the afflicted lose touch with reality. Opinion is unmoored from fact. Life resembles a dark fairy tale in which the villain – Trump – is an amalgam of all the worst tyrants in history, past and present, while the heroes –Trump's critics – are akin to the resistance fighters of World War II.

Bob Summers 2 months, 3 weeks ago

TDS is another symptom of humans with the Liberal genetic condition.

There is nothing they can do about it.

Maybe weed can temper their emotional hypersensitivity, but, their hate will always be intrinsic to their elevated ideological fulfillment.

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