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White nationalist posters found on Kansas State campus

September 14, 2017

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— Kansas State is speaking out after posters promoting white nationalism were plastered around on campus.

The Manhattan Mercury reports that university spokesman Steve Logback says the posters that appeared Wednesday don't reflect Kansas State values and are unwelcome.

Student body president Jack Ayres said in a tweet the student government was working on putting together a demonstration. He wrote, "Absolutely NO place for this on our campus."

Student Seth Peery called the posters "heartbreaking" but "not entirely surprising." He says not enough has been done to promote "understanding and empathy regarding racial diversity."

The university also found several racist messages on campus during the spring semester, including a noose hanging in a tree. Kansas State denounced the posters and created two new diversity and inclusion administrative positions over the summer.

Comments

Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 3 months ago

The cockroaches are coming out of the woodwork in droves, aren't they?

Bob Summers 3 months ago

Let me know when their terrorism starts like the Liberals in ANTIFA have been and will continue to do.

Bob Reinsch 2 months, 4 weeks ago

Well, Bob, between 1882 and 1968, there were 4,743 lynchings in the US by white supremacists. Let me know when the Anti-fascists catch up.

Bob Summers 2 months, 4 weeks ago

You need to evolve.

Sadly, the congenital Liberal emotionally cannot.

The congenital Liberals in the Democrat party of yore did evil things.

Do you know if all of the statues been removed and building names, streets, etc. of exalted leader Robert Byrd been changed yet? If not, are you leading the fight to make it so?

Richard Neuschafer 2 months, 3 weeks ago

Bob, there is nothing rational about your post. Absolutely nothing.

Jillian Andrews 2 months, 4 weeks ago

Bob Summers is a troll with no job and no life, so asking him to do anything productive is a waste of time. He's also too stupid to know that "ANTIFA" simply means anti-fascists. There is no "ANTIFA" other than people who do not support fascism. Bob "Little Stubby One" Summers is evidently anti-ANTIFA, meaning he supports fascism. Maybe he and his little friend can find a time machine and go back and hang with his mentors, Mussolini and Hitler.

Bob Smith 2 months, 4 weeks ago

No antifa? Your denial of reality is rather amusing. They exist and they are fascists.

Bob Reinsch 2 months, 4 weeks ago

I find it interesting that I brought up a verifiable fact, and he responds with a personal attack and claims the moral high ground. My fact remains unrefuted. I'll take that as a win.

Paul Youk 2 months, 4 weeks ago

I understand that people who are fed Hannity/Fox/Info Wars lies and propaganda all day might have missed it, but even if you ignore history and only want a contemporary example, here you go Bob!

Brock Masters 3 months ago

Thanks for sharing the poster.

Why is the poster and its message condemned as being a white supremacist poster? I don't agree with the contention that we are told Asia for Asians....but why is it wrong for a person to speak out in defense of their race when other races do it without being labeled supremacist?

The poster asks a question and doesn't call for hate or violence so why is it wrong to pose a question - would it have been condemned if it were any other race than white?

Greg Cooper 3 months ago

I'd be interested in knowing, Brock, just where we are told these things. Personally, I've never once heard these things except from those who I would call white nationalists. My opinion is that this poster expresses just what the writer said, white nationalism. What other explanation can be gained from the wording of this poster other than that the writer believes whites aren't given an equal standing with other races? And, more importantly, do you believe that sentiment?

As to your final question: yes, I believe it would, at least by people who believe that skin color doesn't make a damned bit of difference. Do you truly believe that this poster was put up by one of that belief or by one who has a bone to pick with brown and yellow people?

William D'Armond 2 months, 4 weeks ago

Mr. Cooper, I am not racist, nor am I against diversity. I am not a supporter of any this that promotes division amongst races. Our government has consistently pushed an agenda that provides a platform for segregation. I think the intent of the poster is simply to that reference. Only in our country can we celebrate individual ethnic backgrounds. We have months dedicated to the heritage of Latin Americans, African Americans, Native American, and Asian American. Outside of Thanksgiving, or Columbus Day, there is nothing that celebrates a White people in an America. To that point, if someone we to suggest something of that magnitude would promote such an outcry of racism and hate that it must be because they hate other races. I ask you, if we are all "Americans" why do we have months dedicated to heritages of other countries? A country divided will always be easier to manipulate by the government. Any group that is out there trying to push their agenda and uses violence as an end game is a terrorist organization in my eyes, and we can all probably name a half dozen off the top of our heads. Yet our government fails to label them, thus providing an ability to socially divide us. So I ask you, is it racist to pose the question why? Who is the racist, the guy asking to be treated equally the same as any other race in our country, or the man calling him a racist because he is offended at the request of equal thought and treatment?

Greg Cooper 2 months, 4 weeks ago

You want a day named for whites? Do it. And then see how America reacts. I really don't have the insecurity of race to contend with but, if you or others do, then, by all means, create a White Congressional caucus, or a White Anything I want Month, or whatever floats your boat. The only argument here is that the poster was not put up in support of a White Day, but as a reminder to those who already practice it, that race is a dividing line that doesn't seem to go away.

William D'Armond 2 months, 4 weeks ago

I think you missed my point. I don't see a need for any of it. If we are all Americans, lets Celebrate being Americans. The United States was listed as a Melting Pot of ethnic backgrounds. I think it is hypocritical for one race to be allowed to celebrate their heritage, but turn around a blast another for wanting to do the same. We have become a melting pot of materials that no longer mix together and are letting our race define us as a country.

I read recently that the NAACP wants to have segregated house for African Americans at a university. If I am not mistaken, segregation is something that many African Americans dedicated their live to overcoming. Rosa Parks, Martin Luther King Jr. and Malcolm X all come to mind fairly quickly. How would they respond to what this world has become?

Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 2 months, 4 weeks ago

So, William, do you really think white history has been suppressed? When I went to school, I learned nothing about Blacks, except they had been slaves, not about any of their contributions. It was all white history. To my surprise after I left school, I learned there was a lot more diversity in our country from the very beginning.

And I celebrate my heritage. I love going to the Ren Fest. I love the Irish Fest and Irish music, and I always celebrate St. Patrick's day, even though I'm not Catholic. I watch BBC America a lot and before that came along I loved that PBS has British programming. Why do you hate where your ancestors came from.

I also love celebrating other heritages of the people who make up this country. I love Cinco de Mayo, Chinese New Year, Black History Month, etc. This is America. A mixture of many different cultures. Even the native tribes are all different. Should they not celebrate their heritage? Just what is "American culture". You say we are all Americans, but what does that mean? It means we all have many different heritages, and if you are an American, you celebrate that.

William D'Armond 2 months, 4 weeks ago

Dorothy, I grew up in Lawrence myself and I agree, the predominant educational materials that involved African Americans was slavery, the civil war era, MLK Jr. and the segregation areas. I am not discrediting diversity, I agree we should embrace it all, and I mean ALL. Racism is racism, regardless of ethnic background. Racism has been around since the beginning of time and to overcome it is near impossible. My point was that we should be celebrating America as a Melting Pot, not building divides in our communities because of the color of our skin. America is more like a bottle of Italian dressing anymore. Not many people are proud to be American, the are too worried about being offended by what someone else says or does. Protesting rights of free speech of one group with the defense that it is the freedom of speech to protest.

Brock Masters 2 months, 4 weeks ago

Greg, I don't agree with their contention that Asia, etc are for Asians only and so on - stated that right up front. I think the point is that whites are not given equal standing with other races and is wanting equality just as the other races do.

Yes, I do believe there is a double standard for minority races and the white race. Examples are, there is no outcry gainst a government body that discriminates based on race - the Congressional Black Caucus. There is no outcry against police and fire organizations representing blacks and Hispanics.

There is no outcry against colleges proposing to exclude whites from certain housing or to award scholarships to blacks based on the color of their skin.

So yes, I do believe that there is a growing belief that minority's groups may discriminate based on race and I believe it is wrong. I want equality for all regardless of race. Racial discrimination is always wrong.

I condemn all hate groups but respect the right to free speech which includes support for whites. Without pushback because people are afraid of being called a racist we've gone too far in the wrong direction by not eliminating all racial discrimination but legitimizing some while condemning others. All are wrong.

So, yes I do

Greg Cooper 2 months, 4 weeks ago

I, too, Brock, respect and defend the right of all Americans to free speech. What I do NOT defend is using that free speech to disseminate or uphold or favor racially divisive "ideology". I have never accused you of racism, but I will not back off my thoughts that supporting thoughts such words as this poster puts forth is akin to racially dividing the nation. Only when the various races come to the conclusion that skin color is not indicative of anything except ancestry will this argument cease to exist. Unfortunately, this poster does nothing to that end, and everything toward the exact opposite: fostering a sense of racial superiority in the white-skinned races. You're a reasonable man, Brock, and I wonder why you defend this poster.

Brock Masters 2 months, 4 weeks ago

Greg,

If you think I am defending the poster then I have not made my point clear enough. I said I don't agree with their point and I agree with you when you write, "t I will not back off my thoughts that supporting thoughts such words as this poster puts forth is akin to racially dividing the nation. '

My issue is why is this poster condemned so vehemently when so many other groups share the same sentiment about their race. It is all wrong and divisive. We have to come together as a nation and stand against racism, racial discrimination and injustice regardless of race.

Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 2 months, 4 weeks ago

When was the last time you were told you are a credit to your race, Brock? When have you ever been made to feel like you represent the whole white race? When has anyone said to you "No, we hired a white guy once, and he was lazy. All you white guys are lazy." How many times in the last year were you pulled over by a cop, because you did'n't quite make that lane change just so, or it looked like your lights weren't working right or you looked like a guy who had just robbed a bank? Can you go to work, use your key to get in and not be arrested for trespassing? Why do you feel the need to defend your race?

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/black-people-more-likely-be-stopped-cops-study-finds-n616546

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article1957716.html

Brock Masters 2 months, 4 weeks ago

Almost weekly some celebrity or group is saying all whites are racist. Two wrongs don't make a right. I condemn all racism, all racial discrimination and al, stereotyping.

I also support all races, including whites in supporting their race when it is being attacked.

Here is just on of the latest. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/loreal-transgender-model-fired-for-calling-all-white-people-racist-srw208h08

racially discriminating against whites will not eradicate racism against blacks. It will only make it worse. The solution is for all of us to join together to condemn ALL racism no to make social, justice and equity issues racial neutral.

Let's work together as the human race and not the black, brown or white race.

Daniel Kennamore 2 months, 4 weeks ago

They link to an alt right and white nationalist sites.

Nice whataboutism though.

Paul Youk 2 months, 4 weeks ago

Isn't it funny how the folks that listen to Hannity and other liars all day also constantly use the same Soviet-style propaganda techniques that their dear leaders and propagandists do? Coincidence I'm sure!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

Paul Youk 2 months, 4 weeks ago

Incorrect premises followed by a racist, incorrect conclusion. That you don't see a problem with it speak more about you than the poster itself. And vis-a-vis the types of groups posting it, "we have a right to exist" is a step or two away from "we have a right to make sure you don't exist here in our "white" countries", which comes across as implied violence to alot of people that sentiment will be directed at.

Charles L. Bloss, Jr. 2 months, 4 weeks ago

Thanks. I often wonder in cases like this, what caused it. It is nice to actually see the poster.

Ralph Reed 3 months ago

I'll disregard Bob Summers' knee-jerk hot key comment. (How many do you have now?)

@Brock. Read the fine print on the poster. The websites referenced are white-supremacist websites; you can't deny that. Hence, the obvious and logical connection is that the posters at K-State are white-supremacist posters. In fact, I would be surprised if the posters hadn't even been paid for by the websites or their owners.

Don't try and talk your way around, or normalize the elephant in the room (like #45 does on a daily basis), because you can't.

Mark Jakubauskas 2 months, 4 weeks ago

Grammatically, shouldn't that be, "Diversity means FEWER white people, not, "Diversity means LESS white people" ?

Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 2 months, 4 weeks ago

I've noticed the racist aren't always very educated.

Brock Masters 2 months, 4 weeks ago

Where is the condemnation of #BLM? Why was there no outrage when they were invited to the Whitehouse?

By their own admission they are a black nationalist organization so why are they accepted?

Stop the double standard and condemn all race based politics, hate, discrimination and racism. Don't be selective with your outrage. Wrong is wrong.

http://blacklivesmatter.com About #BlackLivesMatter Black Lives Matter is a unique contribution that goes beyond extrajudicial killings of Black people by police and vigilantes. It goes beyond the narrow nationalism that can be prevalent within some Black communities, which merely call on Black people to love Black, live Black and buy Black, keeping straight cis Black men in the front of the movement while our sisters, queer and trans and disabled folk take up roles in the background or not at all. Black Lives Matter affirms the lives of Black queer and trans folks, disabled folks, Black-undocumented folks, folks with records, women and all Black lives along the gender spectrum. It centers those that have been marginalized within Black liberation movements. It is a tactic to (re)build the Black liberation movement.

Daniel Kennamore 2 months, 4 weeks ago

Brock,

How does your quoted section in any way prove your point? It says they are literally the opposite of nationalists.

Brock Masters 2 months, 4 weeks ago

It states they go beyond narrow nationalism of some black communities that don't include black queer, black undocumented etc.

So they are saying they are a black nationalist group that is more inclusive. Also, look up the black liberation movement. It was powered by the black panthers who without a doubt were a violent racist nationalist group and their offshoot the new black panthers is defined by the SPLC as a hate group.

And my point isn't to justify white nationalist groups, but to point out the selective outrage and hypocrisy of those that embrace black nationalist groups or are silent about them and the overt racism of many organizations.

I believe condemning only white hate groups while legitimizing black hate groups fuels the anger in our country. We need to come together as a nation and condemn all hate, all racial discrimination and all injustice. Do this and we are united. Embrace one and condemn the other and we are divided.

Daniel Kennamore 2 months, 4 weeks ago

No, it literally says the exact opposite.

Read what it actually says:

"It goes beyond the narrow nationalism that can be prevalent within some Black communities, which merely call on Black people to love Black, live Black and buy Black"

The 'call on black to love black...' etc section is literally a definition of nationalism. They are saying they are moving beyond that because nationalism is bad.

Their guiding principles page lists the value of community, inclusion and working to correct the wrongs within our institutions...not break away from them.

I'm honestly wondering if you know what the word 'nationalism' means at this point.

Brock Masters 2 months, 4 weeks ago

We will have to disagree, but you have to look at all the words. It doesn't go beyond nationalis,, but beyond narrow nationalism So they are saying they are a broader nationalist group that includes for example, undocumented blacks, they didn't say undocumented people, but said, blacks as they did in the other examples of who they unclude.

It is clearly stated that they want to rebuild the black liberation movement; something that was very much a violent supremacist movement.

But you can believe what you want and I what I read.

Paul Youk 2 months, 4 weeks ago

Because BLM ISN'T a black nationalism movement, its a call to stop unjustly shooting black people. The people behind that poster link directly to white nationalists.

In police departments across the nation, the culture of brotherhood must be replaced by a culture of accountability, or 1) injustice will continue to win out and 2) police departments will continue to lose legitimacy and good relationships with their communities. Even if you think BLM is full of it, you want PDs to have good relationships with their communities, right? The culture of brotherhood--which forces the 90% of good cops to side with the 10% of bad cops when those bad cops do bad things--destroys that potential.

Bob Smith 2 months, 4 weeks ago

BLM seems to be okay with Black people being shot as long as other Black people are pulling the trigger. Case in point, Chicago.

Mark Pickerel 2 months, 3 weeks ago

Wow, Bob. It took a while for you to bring up Chicago, but my bingo card is almost full. Well done!

Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 2 months, 4 weeks ago

Do you HONESTLY think that Black people like anyone killing Black people? Why don't your try and go to Kansas City and join the groups who are working against gang violence? There are Black and White people trying to change that culture. But of course, to you all Black people are the same. That is the very definition of racism.

Greg Cooper 2 months, 4 weeks ago

I've read all the posts here today, and have come to a conclusion: no matter which race is denigrated or put down or ignored by any other race, the results are the same. Some defend, some deny, some form ultra-whatever groups, and some form opinions based upon nothing but prejudice. Good grief, why defend this poster by whining that there isn't Whites Only Day at the Circus or whatever. Selective outrage and hypocrisy come in many forms, and most of them are nothing but whining.

Get rid of ANY ultra-nationalistic thought and action. Get rid of ANY racially or religious or age or any other stupidly formed opinions and realize that we're all human, as Brock said, and get along with living. Very few people want to succeed at the expense of others (except in baseball where the Royals should be crowned world champions just because) and those who do should rightfully be cordoned off by the rest of us.

Greg Cooper 2 months, 4 weeks ago

Thank you, Brock. I know we both want the best for all people in this nation, but sometimes we get caught up in semantics and politics. Let's all work for what is best for all of us, in our personal and public lives. Have a good day, guy, and pass it on.

Bob Smith 2 months, 4 weeks ago

Considering the many hoax hate crimes that have been reported over the last few years, it's a pretty good chance someone on the port side of the aisle put up these posters to generate a dialog.

Bob Smith 2 months, 4 weeks ago

Wait for an investigation. These things take a while to play out. BTW, it'll be the responsibility of the police to uncover who did the posters.

Greg Cooper 2 months, 4 weeks ago

That is a BS answer, in both meanings, and you know it. So, you know of these instances and I don't? Where did you get your information, Bob? This is the epitome of fake news, kiddo, and you and I and everybody with a brain that actually works knows it. Nice try, but not.

Bob Summers 2 months, 4 weeks ago

Regardless which side of the boat these individuals claim to be rowing on, scientific fact shows a congenital Liberal is a congenital Liberal.

One "proof" is their behavior. Amniocentesis for confirmation.

Richard Aronoff 2 months, 4 weeks ago

The only difference between ANTIFA and the Brown Shirts of Nazi Germany is........there's no difference.

Bob Smith 2 months, 4 weeks ago

At least the Brown Shirts weren't afraid to show their faces.

David Holroyd 2 months, 4 weeks ago

Dorothy you must have gone to a very backwards school...Didn't you ever learn about George Washington Carver...and NO he did not start Boston Market with the carver meals.

We had science classses even in grade school and learned about George Washington Carver....it's about Skippy and Jiffy if that helps you out! :)

Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 2 months, 4 weeks ago

Carver was the only one we learned about. We didn't learn about the Buffalo Soldiers. We didn't learn about Crispus Attucks. I didn't hear about Harriet Tubman or William Sill until I was an adult, same with Sojourner Truth and Fredrick Douglas. We didn't read Langston Hughes in English. And science. What about Benjamin Banneker, Percy Julian, or Earnest Just?

And think of how many more there would have been if Blacks hadn't been oppressed for so long, and given lousy education. Personally, I'm impressed they aren't more angry. And now that we have young Blacks who are finally getting the education their ancestors didn't get, and are wanting their history to be recognized, beyond throwing them the bone of Carver, you just can't stand it, can you?

Theodore Calvin 2 months, 4 weeks ago

Isn't white culture so prevalent that pretty much everyday is white american day? I guess I missed the part of history class where white people were systemically oppressed in this country by other races and cultures far into the 20th century. Isn't that the point of Black History month, etc? The fact that their cultures are often drowned out by white culture and we have to take a step back to celebrate all the diversity and acknowledge those cultures and make everyone feel welcome and proud of their heritage? Saying we need a white history day is as silly as saying christians are persecuted in this country.

Brock Masters 2 months, 4 weeks ago

Whites are not a monolithic group with one culture and socioeconomic status. Many whites were oppressed, the Irish, the Jews, Catholics who were white, For a long time Polish people were ridiculed.

But despite their hardships, none suffered at the hands of our government like the blacks did. No argument there which is why I supported affirmative action, quotas and black history month.

These were necessary but the time has come for us to move on and become Americans. We don't need black history month. We just need to make sure our history books tell the true and complete history of our country. We don't need affirmative action anymore. We need to make sure that businesses and schools follow the law and prosecute them when they violate them.

We cannot tolerate any racial discrimination or hate against others based on race, religion, sexual orientation or gender. The laws are there and must be enforced and embraced by all of us. But, there must be no double standards. Fair is fair and wrong is wrong. No one must be allowed to discriminate based on race, or gender or sexual orientation.

I don't want a white history month, I do want American history, the good the bad and the ugly of it to be taught.

I want all of us to work together for a colorblind America that has compassion for its citizens and recognizes that not everyone is born with the same opportunities but it is in our best interest to help everyone to have access to a quality education, healthcare, nutrition and justice.

We can achieve this if we move away from blaming others for our problems and reach out to everyone without blame for solutions.

Theodore Calvin 2 months, 4 weeks ago

Oh my gosh, it sounds like you're advocating for some sort of society where people are taken care of, and people without the proper means for vital things necessary for life are assisted with those things. Sounds kind of like some sort of socialism you advocate.

Richard Aronoff 2 months, 4 weeks ago

"I guess I missed the part of history class where white people were systemically oppressed"

I guess you did, Theodore. How about the discrimination the Irish, Italians and Jews endured after emigrating to this country to name just a few groups of "white people."

Getting back to ANTIFA, I'd like to see the Solons that run this town pass an ordinance that makes it a crime to cover your face with a mask at any demonstration --- exceptions for Muslim women.

Theodore Calvin 2 months, 4 weeks ago

"...by other races and cultures far into the 20th century." You misquoted me, but make my point exactly, that white people were oppressing other white people. It certainly wasn't any brown folks oppressing those jews, and Irish, etc. The common denominator is white oppression of other races/ethnicities in this country, even against other "white people," because they were different. And since they were once a minority, many of those cultures still celebrate their heritage very similar to black history month. Go to Boston and they sure as heck celebrate their Irish heritage. No one is calling for an end to that.

Theodore Calvin 2 months, 4 weeks ago

If my memory serves me correctly your posts are generally very "conservative". I assume you are against regulation and see the government as burdensome, yet you are asking the government to make some rules regulating how people exercise their first amendment rights? And if muslim women are allowed to wear masks, then wouldn't the real rabble-rousers just dress up as muslim women? Who would be in charge of enforcing that? Talk about a real constitutional crisis there. Appreciate the inclusive sentiment of trying to observe their religion, but think that would create way more problems than it would solve. Making any laws based in religion never seem to turn out well.

Bob Smith 2 months, 4 weeks ago

People with gnarly tree-root toes should not be permitted to wear sandals. Cover that stuff up!

Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 2 months, 3 weeks ago

Have you noticed how these KKK and Westboro lovers defend their disgusting hatred with the 1st amendment, but we don't have the 1st amendment right to oppose them and call them out for the scum they are? They make fun of the people in Tongie who gather to defend their community, or Blacks tired of being harassed by the police, but defend the rights of white supremacist to spread their unfounded hatred. I'll bet there were more people at the rally against these flyers than there were people who passed out these flyers. And they didn't hide their faces. And they didn't murder anyone with their car.

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