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Opinion: Witch hunt? Then you believe this

July 18, 2017


One column cannot accommodate the list of things you must believe if you trust that Donald Trump is truly the victim of a baseless witch hunt. Consider this a mere stab.

  1. Donald Trump Jr., Paul Manafort and Jared Kushner did nothing wrong by meeting with a Kremlin-connected Russian offering dirt on Hillary Clinton. The emails requesting the meeting specifically mentioned a “Russian government attorney” and added that the requested meeting concerned “very high level and sensitive information” ... that “is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.” That doesn’t prove a willingness to collude.

  2. Concern about Paul Manafort’s extensive links with Vladimir Putin’s former puppet in Ukraine, Viktor Yanukovych, including at least $12.7 million in payments, is, to quote Manafort’s words, “silly and nonsensical.”

  3. That Jared Kushner’s attempt, during the transition, to secure a back channel with the Russian government using their secure communications equipment in the Russian embassy was not alarming/inexplicable.

  4. That Donald Trump’s stubborn refusal ever to breathe a critical word about Vladimir Putin, even as he has freely criticized U.S. allies, or acknowledge Russian meddling in our election, is not strange.

  5. That Michael Flynn’s firing after less than a month on the job was really just because he had misled Mike Pence.

  6. That Donald Trump’s pressure on James Comey to go soft on Michael Flynn was purely a measure of loyalty and friendship from a person who has rarely shown those traits before.

  7. That Comey’s firing, at least according to evolving White House accounts, was due to his mishandling of the Clinton file — no, wait. It was due to poor management of the FBI, which was suffering from low morale — uh, no. It was because of two factual errors Comey made in congressional testimony. Finally, that it was really over the “Russia thing” — but only because Trump was an innocent man frustrated by Comey’s unwillingness to clear him publicly.

  8. That it was irrelevant that Trump told the Russian ambassador and foreign minister in the Oval Office the day after Comey’s sacking that the FBI director was a “nut job” whose removal had relieved “great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.”

  9. It’s pure coincidence that one of the only foreign policy advisers on the Trump campaign was Carter Page, who was under FBI investigation for Russia ties. In Moscow, he gave a speech denouncing U.S. policy, saying, “Washington and other Western capitals have impeded potential progress through their often hypocritical focus on ideas such as democratization, inequality, corruption and regime change.” Anti-anti-corruption isn’t disturbing.

  10. That White House objections to sanctions against Russia, which passed the Senate 98-2, are purely procedural.

  11. That former Manafort partner and Trump surrogate Roger Stone, who boasted about links to WikiLeaks founder and America-hater Julian Assange, and accurately predicted in August 2016 that John Podesta would be next “in the barrel,” was just lucky.

  12. That statements by Eric Trump and Donald Trump Jr. about Russian financial ties are not revealing. Golf writer James Dodson quoted Eric as explaining in 2014 how the Trump organization was able to get financing for various golf courses even after the Great Recession. “Well, we don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia. We’ve got some guys that really, really love golf, and they’re really invested in our programs. We just go there all the time.” Donald Trump Jr., who also traveled to Russia frequently, spoke at a 2008 real estate conference and noted that “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.” When Donald Trump stated, “I have zero investments in Russia,” he did not say that Russia had zero investments in him, but we should believe his other claim, “I have nothing to do with Russia.”

  13. That President Trump’s failure to release his tax returns, despite repeated promises to do so, is because he is under audit.

  14. That it’s unremarkable that presidential spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders refuses to say whether Russia is an adversary, a friend or a nation about whom we should be wary.

  15. That Donald Trump is the first president since 1949 to cast doubt on America’s commitment to NATO, but this is overdue and good for the U.S.

  16. That Donald Trump’s obsessive attacks on “fake news” are not an attempt to inoculate himself against future revelations but just good old-fashioned right-wing hatred of liberals.

— Mona Charen is a columnist with Creators Syndicate.


Bob Summers 7 months, 1 week ago

People under the influence of the Liberal gene, like Mona is, have a natural propensity to, a genetic inclination to hate. They can't help hating another fellow human being. They are also good at creating fantasies about those they hate.

p> is sometimes derided by conservatives as a liberal news operation disguised as a fact-checking site. But this month, Snopes put out a report favorable to President Trump, concluding that, yes, he is the victim of lies in the news and in social media. In a way, the report bolsters Mr. Trump’s Twitter rants against “fake news.” Snopes writes about a “major strand of falsehood about the president that feeds into his persona as a bumbling fool, prone to accidents and devoid of any cultural sophistication.” The Snopes report generally shies away from criticizing the established news media — the liberal New York Times-CNN-Washington Post-led anti-Trump reporting that the president castigates the most. In fact, none of those three is mentioned by Snopes, even though former FBI director James B. Comey told the Senate Intelligence Committee that “many, many stories” on the Trump-Russia probe are “dead wrong.”

Ken Lassman 7 months, 1 week ago

Then take off your own liberal genes, Bob; but please do this in the privacy of your home. And, by the way, your comment did not address the total lack of incredulity needed to be able to ignore the long list of questionable actions taken by the Trump circle.

I suspect the very careful Mueller investigation will have some things to say about this ever-growing list, to say nothing of the Senate Judiciary Committee investigation.

Bob Summers 7 months, 1 week ago

I remember your intensity to hate Bush, but I do not recall the hate for the bowing, "I'll be more flexible", billion dollar payoff in the dead of night to build nukes for Iran, Obama?

Did I miss something in the analysis of your condition?

P Allen Macfarlane 7 months, 1 week ago

"I remember your intensity to hate Bush, but I do not recall the hate for the bowing, "I'll be more flexible", billion dollar payoff in the dead of night to build nukes for Iran, Obama?"

This sentence does not make sense. Try again. Perhaps it would be more clear your intent, which at the moment seems to be obfuscation.

Ken Lassman 7 months, 1 week ago

Peter, My translation of his muddled sentence runs something like: "You hated Bush, but I didn't see you hate Obama's nuclear deal, which included what I consider a bribe payoff of a billion dollars."

That's pure speculation about what he meant, but it's as good a guess as any since he he's had over 13 hours to clarify and not responded himself. Regarding his critique, at least as I've interpreted it, it seems pretty lame, since Obama also ruled in 2016 that Iran should pony up $2 billion in frozen Iranian assets to pay the families of the Marines who lost their lives for the 1983 Lebanon bombing financed by Iran. This was later upheld by the Supreme Court. What does Mr. Summers think about this?

Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 7 months, 1 week ago

Well, Trump over and over again has called his supporters stupid, and they cheer when he does, so it's not surprising. And I have no problem calling his supporters stupid, because this is one of the very few times I agree with Trump.

Steve Hicks 7 months, 1 week ago


OK, I read the link you posted as proof that Snopes verified Trump is the victim of liberal-media lies.

The link you posted shows The Washington Times said that. Thing is, neither you nor the Washington Times gives a link to the Snopes article saying Trump is the victim of liberal-media lies.

I searched Snopes' website every way I could think of to find their article that says Trump is the victim of liberal-media lies. I couldn't find any Snopes article that said anything like that.

But maybe I'm just not a very good researcher. After all, The Washington Times says there is such an article on Snopes...and I'm sure you verified it existed before you put your own reputation for truthfulness on the line by posting here that such an article exists on Snopes. Maybe you can give us a link here to that article...?

"The Washington Times" is the propaganda sheet of the Unification Church ("Moonies")...but that doesn't necessarily mean everything they print is a lie. They could have easily proved their story was true by publishing a link to the Snopes article, so we could all see that there really is a Snopes story saying Trump is the victim of liberal-media lies.

They didn't do that. But you can PROVE the Times' truthfulness, and your own. Just post a link to Snopes' article that says Trump is the victim of liberal-media lies. OK ?

When you do that, it'll prove I'm a rather incompetent researcher; and I'll be glad to admit so, here, publicly.

If you DON't post a link we can all go to and see for ourselves that there's a Snopes article saying Trump is the victim of liberal-media lies, people will have to suspect there isn't one. That will seem to prove that you and The Washington Times are spreading lies.

Jesus said it best. Satan is "the father of lies."

Steve Hicks 7 months, 1 week ago

Hi, BS:

Need more time to find and post that link that proves you're telling the truth ?

It shouldn't take long. Just search Snopes 'til you find their article that says Trump is the victim of liberal-media lies, then copy the link to that Snopes' web-page, sign onto the Journal-World's website, and paste the link into a comment here.

Five minutes' work, tops.

But proving you are a truthful person whose word can be trusted is an EXTREMELY important thing: so take more time if you need to.

Steve Hicks 7 months, 1 week ago

It's pretty important to show that you're a truthful person whose word can be trusted, don't you think, B.S. ?

Otherwise, there's no reason anybody should believe anything you ever say, is there ?

All you need to do is post the link to Snopes' research that says Trump is the victim of liberal-media lies. That's easy enough, isn't it, Bob ?

But take more time if you need to. Proving your honesty is too important a matter to rush.

Greg Cooper 7 months, 1 week ago

The thing about Bob Summers, as well as the fairly large number of those who actually support Chump, is that they are in the throes of a condition that makes it impossible for them to change their (ahem) minds even when confronted with facts averse to their (ahem) beliefs. That's why we keep seeing significant numbers of people make stupid, lying, diverting comments even though confronted with facts diametrically opposed to their (ahem) beliefs. The bottom line is that they haven't the intellectual honesty to actually question things that can not in any way be true because that would require that they actually think for themselves rather than become sponges who soak up stupidity.

They will not answer you in concrete terms, if at all, but will continue spouting utter nonsense until they turn blue. Oh, I'm sorry, most of them are already blue. Sorry. Carry on.

Richard Heckler 7 months, 1 week ago

Mona Charen is a damn good reporter however she is no bleeding heart liberal per se..... no way jose'.

Mona is simply reporting the facts on the table thus far.... thank you Mona Charen.

I say conservatives behind the scenes, which is where they seem to spend most of their time, are working to remove Donald Trump the Rump. NOT because they disagree with his politics but because they are concerned about losing control.

This radical libertarian/fundamentalist anti american party is soooooo off the wall in their agenda against America.

Steve Hicks 7 months, 1 week ago

BS, are you there ?

Your failing to post a link to the supposed Snopes article that shows Trump is the victim of liberal-media lies makes me seriously question if any such article exists. I know I couldn't find it, despite diligent searching on Snopes website.

So if it does exist, please post a link to it at your first opportunity, and vindicate your reputation for truthfulness.

But if it doesn't exist...if you believed what you read on the internet, without checking to see if it was actually true...just say so. We all make mistakes, so we can all forgive you a mistake.

The professional liars online are extremely good at their job. They can fool anyone, unless we're strictly focused on truth. So if they fooled you, all of us can understand and sympathize with you. We wouldn't judge you for that, if you just honestly admitted you were deceived.

That would also speak well for your integrity. If the masters of lies deceived you about what was true, and you passed on lies because you BELIEVED they were true, you're careless. But as I said, all the rest of us fallible beings would readily forgive you that mistake, if you admit it that's what it was.

If you can't prove the story you posted is true, by giving us a link to verify it...and won't admit that you posted it because you'd been deceived to think it was true...What should we think then, Bob ?

Won't we have to conclude that the story you posted is a lie, and that you KNOWINGLY (not mistakenly) posted it with the intent to deceive us ? We'll have to conclude you're not an unwary victim of deceivers, but their WilLING tool, won't we ?

You have the power to convince us you're actually a good person, Bob. Just post a link to the Snopes story that Trump is the victim of liberal-media lies, and we'll believe it exists. And we'll credit you as an honest man.

Steve Hicks 7 months, 1 week ago

Yoo-hoo, BS...

Would you please post that link to the Snopes article that says Trump is the victim of liberal-media lies ?

In the alternative, please tell us: were you fooled by "conservative" liars who SAID there was such a Snopes article, though it doesn't exist ?

I've been pretty patient, Bob. But you haven't responded all day. Please let me hear from you.

Steve Hicks 7 months, 1 week ago

I've been waiting all day to hear from you, Bob...but you don't respond.

Tell you what, Bob...simple way you can communicate what you want to say, without having to say anything, O.K. ?

Post a link to the Snopes article that says Trump is the victim of liberal-media lies, and we'll all know such an article exists.

No link, and we'll all know that no such an article exists.

If you told us the lie because the liars fooled you to believe it's TRUE, just say so; and we'll know you didn't intend to deceive anyone.

Or say nothing, if you stand by the lie you told. That will be the signal you have every intention of deceiving people. O.K., Bob ?

I'll check with you in the morning, Bob.

Steve Hicks 7 months, 1 week ago

Good morning, BS.

Hmmm, nothing from you yet, Bob.

No link to prove Snopes said Trump is the victim of liberal-media lies,...and no admission you were fooled by that lie . . .

Sure you've got it straight, Bob ? By not answering, you want to tell us that . . .

you know the Washington Times article you posted is a lie . . .

but you still stand with posting that lie here . . .

and you post that lie with the intent to deceive us.

If that's NOT what you mean to say, Bob, just post a negative word or two: "No," or "Not so," or something.

Let us know where you stand toward truth and lies, Bob.

That's important.

Steve Hicks 7 months, 1 week ago


...have they got a gun to your head, Bob, and they won't let you reply... even though you want to post proof here that you're NOT a knowing tool of professional deceivers...?

Two winks, left eye, Bob...that's the signal you're being held hostage by these terrorists, and you can't act or speak freely.

OK, Bob ? Two winks. Left eye.)

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