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Letter to the editor: Taxes worth it

July 12, 2017


To the editor:

I do not understand why people try to change tax into a four-letter word. I think of taxes as a thank-you gift that can never match the original gift given to me. If I had every penny back that I had ever paid in all the various taxes, I could not build a highway to Eudora. And yet, I have driven over 500,000 miles in America during my lifetime.

It’s not that I get use or enjoyment from all government expenditures. I realize that some taxes will be spent on roads I have never driven on and airports I have never flown from. But others do. I won’t get every disease the government is researching, but I may have a longer life because of some of their research. I’ll leave bicycle paths, fishing lakes, community playgrounds and a host of other things to those who enjoy them. I’ll get more than my share visiting museums in D.C. and riding through the amazing National Park system. I hope I never need some health or disaster services, but I’m glad they are in place. My taxes have never been too high, and I say that because the benefits given to me surpass any paltry return I can give.

Please, folks! Think about it. Count the blessings.


Bob Summers 8 months, 1 week ago

Thanks for the laugh Eileen

Most Americans Are Slaves And They Don't Even Know It

Most Americans spend their lives working for others, paying off debts to others and performing tasks that others tell them that they “must” do. These days, we don’t like to think of ourselves as “servants” or “slaves”, but that is what the vast majority of us are. It is just that the mechanisms of our enslavement have become much more sophisticated over time. It has been said that the borrower is the servant of the lender, and most of us start going into debt very early into our adult years. In fact, those that go to college to “get an education” are likely to enter the “real world” with a staggering amount of debt. And of course that is just the beginning of the debt accumulation.

Today, when you add up all mortgage debt, all credit card debt and all student loan debt, the average American household is carrying a grand total of 203,163 dollars of debt. Overall, American households are more than 11 trillion dollars in debt at this point. And even though most Americans don’t realize this, over the course of our lifetimes the amount of money that we will repay on our debts is far greater than the amount that we originally borrowed. In fact, when it comes to credit card debt you can easily end up repaying several times the amount of money that you originally borrowed. So we work our fingers to the bone to pay off these debts, and the vast majority of us are not even working for ourselves. Instead, our work makes the businesses that other people own more profitable. So if we spend the best years of our lives building businesses for others, servicing debts that we owe to others and making others wealthier, what does that make us?

In 2015, the words “servant” and “slave” have very negative connotations, and we typically don’t use them very much.

Instead, we use words like “employee” because they make us feel so much better.

Bob Summers 8 months, 1 week ago

When Barack Obama took the oath of office, the U.S. national debt was 10.6 trillion dollars. Today, it has surpassed the 18 trillion dollar mark. And even though we are being told that “deficits are going down”, the truth is that the U.S. national debt increased by more than a trillion dollars in fiscal 2014. But that isn’t good enough for Obama. He says that we need to come out of this period of “mindless austerity” and steal money from our children and our grandchildren even faster. In addition, Obama wants to raise taxes again. His budget calls for 2 trillion dollars in tax increases over the next decade. He always touts these tax increases as “tax hikes on the rich”, but somehow they almost always seem to end up hitting the middle class too. But whether or not Congress ever adopts Obama’s new budget is not really the issue. The reality of the matter is that the “tax and spend Democrats” and the “tax and spend Republicans” are both responsible for getting us into this mess. Future generations of Americans are already facing the largest mountain of debt in the history of the planet, and both parties want to make this mountain of debt even higher. The only disagreement is about how fast it should happen. It is a national disgrace, but most Americans have come to accept this as “normal”. If our children and our grandchildren get the opportunity, they will curse us for what we have done to them.

Kendall Simmons 8 months, 1 week ago

What are you babbling about? An article from 2015??? About stuff in 2014? Obama isn't President any more. And this is 2017. Did you miss this?

Oh...and deficits and debts aren't the same thing. So quoting an article that says "And even though we are being told that “deficits are going down”, the truth is that the U.S. national debt increased by more than a trillion dollars in fiscal 2014" diminishes any value this article might have had, even as out-of-date as it is.

Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 8 months, 1 week ago

News that Bob reads is propaganda, not facts. They take semi facts and leave out the parts that don't go along with their message.

Carol Bowen 8 months, 1 week ago

You do realize that Donald Trump is the current president, not Barrack Obama.

Carol Bowen 8 months, 1 week ago

How about "indentured servants"? Americans have history with that concept.

William Cummings 8 months, 1 week ago

Eileen: Thank you for your thoughtful and insightful comments on taxation and public services. You have provided us with a real world explanation of how pooled resources not only enrich our lives, but make our modern world possible. Many of the services that we make use of on a daily basis are so successful that we do not even know that they are there.

Each of us pays some taxes that support many things that we do not personally use, and perhaps even think should not exist. That is part of the price we each pay for having the services that we do use.

Again thanks.

Bob Smith 8 months, 1 week ago

If you want to give the government more of your money, please feel free to do so. Open your checkbook and have at it. Just don't dragoon the rest of us into your plan.

William Cummings 8 months, 1 week ago

If you want to stop paying taxes, please feel free to do so, but stop using resources that has been paid for at the taxpayers expense.

Stop driving on public roads. Stop drinking water from the city water supply. Quit using the public sewer system that we paid for. Do not go to a health care provider as the employees have been mostly educated in public schools.

Above all, however, please quit breathing out clean air that was protected by the publicly funded EPA.

Bob Summers 8 months, 1 week ago

Liberals will say anything to take other peoples money.

You and Eileen's gluttony for other peoples money is greed to the highest degree.

Liberals will say anything to take other peoples money.

David Holroyd 8 months, 1 week ago

Free water on 12th street, bring a sponge and a bucket and a slipper slide.

Ray Mizumura 8 months, 1 week ago

And Bob Summers will say anything, no matter how asinine, just to see his name on these message boards.

Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 8 months, 1 week ago

Would you like to point out the law that allows liberals not to pay taxes? I think I need to tell my accountant.

Ray Mizumura 8 months, 1 week ago

Now's a good time for me to update everyone on funding for the Public Broadcasting Service, and for the National Endowments for the Humanities and Arts. Congress not only continued funding these all-American, positive programs, they increased the funding. Bob Smith objects strenuously to such public programs and portrays the public's role in providing funding for them as something akin to the reign of Pol Pot in Cambodia during the late 1970s. Bob is wrong. Congress did the right thing. And Elaine's letter is welcome indeed. Thank you, Elaine.

Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 8 months, 1 week ago

Conservatives are anti education. It's easier to control people who are not educated.

Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 8 months, 1 week ago

Bob, Please feel free to NOT to use our roads and schools, and get off the internet. too. And, really. Since you are so rich that your taxes are so horrible, please buy and island and create your wonderful libertarian tax free society.

Gary Stussie 8 months, 1 week ago

Concur that taxes spent on infrastructure benefit us all ... unfortunately, ever-increasing amounts are spent on "causes", the common benefit of which is very debatable. Food Stamp (SNAP) program is just the latest example. 48 M Americans! Put on a 20 hour per week work requirement for able-bodied people with no dependents and enrollment drops by 85%. Lawrence is a good example. Sales and property tax seem to go to support the system. Every time we hear about an infrastructure improvement, it is associated with a bond issue. Taxes use to cover public works ... now the costs are paid by ever increasing utility bills.

Tony Peterson 8 months, 1 week ago

The vast majority of people receiving food stamps are the working poor who already have a job or several jobs but still can't make ends meet.

William Cummings 8 months, 1 week ago

Yes, and virtually all are only using food stamps as a temporary way to help feed their families until they get back to self sufficiency. Oh, and by the way, please do not forget the military families that need food stamps to survive. This was 23,000 active duty military families in 2013. Folks should carefully consider who they are vilifying when stereotyping food stamp recipients.

Don Brennaman 8 months, 1 week ago

Barack Obama: Added $7.917 trillion, a 68 percent increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of George W. Bush’s last budget. George W. Bush: Added $5.849 trillion, a 101 percent increase from the $5.8 trillion debt at the end of Clinton's last budget. Bill Clinton: Added $1.396 trillion, a 32 percent increase from the $4.4 trillion debt at the end of George H.W. Bush's last budget. Ronnie Reagan: Added $1.86 trillion, a 186 percent increase from the $998 billion debt at the end of Carter's last budget. You know what Bot? I don't like paying for rich folks wars over oil. You can't pay for war with tax cuts. If you want transparency from the gop you have to register as a republican. They will ask you to pay your own postage.

David Holroyd 8 months, 1 week ago

Eileen Lawrence, I need some money to pay back taxes. I am a veteran and the VA does not fix teeth. it's teeth or taxes, my dear.

Help me out..the address is in the phone book, just make check to Douglas County Treasurer and that way it will find it's way to the right place.

Eileen, help a vet and an old man...

It's Teeth or Taxes!

Kendall Simmons 8 months, 1 week ago

Actually, the VA fixes teeth for lots of veterans. You may not be one that qualifies...but not qualifying is NOT the same thing as "the VA does not fix teeth". Plus, of course, there are free dental clinics in Lawrence.

And what about the whole "personal responsibility" argument? Doesn't it apply to YOU?

David Holroyd 8 months, 1 week ago

Mr. Cummings and not EE I imagine. Anyway that water you speak of,,,it is gong down the drain and if wander over to 12th street you too can watch the waste, water that taxpayers have paid to treat now going to the river or someplace underground.

Just think, we are doing such a service to Eudora 'cause now they get a bit cleaner water to process...Lawrence is such a CARING community...

Led by a Mayor that Dares not to Inquire, Lawrence that is/

Carol Bowen 8 months, 1 week ago

How much of our local tax increases are caused by the state's budget cuts? For example, teacher's retirement costs were pushed down to local school budgets. (That may have changed with the recent tax reforms.)

David Holroyd 8 months, 1 week ago

Kendall simmons, please tell me about the VA teeth fixing program. Enlighten me.

As for "personal responsibility" I hope you are not the Kendall Simmons that took advantage of the Big Event at KU and your house painted. If so, where was your PERSONAL RESPONSIBILTY.....

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