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Brownback vetoes bill that would reverse tax cuts he championed

Gov. Sam Brownback vetoes a $1 billion income tax bill that would reverse many of the tax policies he championed in 2012.

Gov. Sam Brownback vetoes a $1 billion income tax bill that would reverse many of the tax policies he championed in 2012.

February 21, 2017, 7:30 p.m. Updated February 22, 2017, 9:45 a.m.


— Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback on Wednesday vetoed a bill that would undo his signature income tax cut, setting up a confrontation with the Republican-led Legislature, which immediately set about trying to override him.

The state House has started debating whether to override the conservative Republican-governor's veto. The bill would need two-thirds majorities in both legislative chambers, and it didn't have such support when it was passed last week.

"Now it's time for the Legislature to rise up and do its job," said Democratic Sen. Tom Holland, of Baldwin City.

The bill would have raised more than $1 billion over two years, starting in July. It would have rolled back tax policies Brownback has championed by raising income tax rates and ending an exemption for more than 330,000 farmers and business owners.

Brownback vetoed the measure the morning after pledging to do so during a speech to an annual banquet of the Kansas Chamber of Commerce. It is the state's largest business group, a powerful voice within the Republican Party and a stronger backer of income tax cuts.

"I've been against income tax increases as long as I've been in public life," Brownback said during a Statehouse news conference after signing his veto message to lawmakers.

Kansas has struggled to balance its budget since GOP lawmakers slashed income taxes in 2012 and 2013 at Brownback's urging. The state faces projected budget shortfalls totaling nearly $1.1 billion through June 2019.

The governor called the proposed tax increases "punitive." He's long touted the 2012 and 2013 tax cuts as pro-growth policies that are models for other states and the federal government.

Supporters of the bill see it as necessary for balancing the budget without deep cuts in aid to public schools and government programs. Brownback has proposed raising cigarette and liquor taxes and increasing annual filing fees paid by for-profit businesses, along with internal government borrowing and other accounting moves.


Janet Olin 1 year, 3 months ago

Hopefully there will be enough elected officials with a conscience to override Clownback.

Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 1 year, 3 months ago

He means the pocketbooks of the very upper middle class. To Brownback the middle class are millionaires.

Kendall Simmons 1 year, 3 months ago

Since Brownback's tax nonsense was passed, Kansas has LOST 800 family farms plus the value of Kansas farmland keeps dropping,. Good grief!! This man is CLUELESS!!!

Robert Brock 1 year, 3 months ago

Brownback - and his type of thinking - will destroy Kansas. Evacuate the state, NOW (or vote for fiscal sanity if you are able).

Kelly O'Connor 1 year, 3 months ago

Throw this jerk off a deteriorating bridge.

Bob Reinsch 1 year, 3 months ago

Deadbeat Dad governor doesn't want to take care of the kids. Surprise!

Bob Summers 1 year, 3 months ago

Good man. The nanny state is still taking too much of the working stiff's money.

The human inflicted with the Liberal condition is going to be upset. They need other peoples money to feel good about themselves. But, hey. Who cares? They will riot and break things. They will protest. They will call people names. They will fuss and stamp their feet.

But, hey. So what. Who cares? The working stiff's get to keep more of their blood sweat and tears.

These are the same people the hard working Pilgrims banished to the woods for not pulling their weight around the camp.

Alex Landazuri 1 year, 3 months ago

good to see the troll is still strong with you bob.

Alex Landazuri 1 year, 3 months ago

justin, if i remember correctly, you dont even live in this state. if that is correct, gtfo and bother the people in the area that you live in. if im wrong and you do live here, stfu and go back into your moms basement.

Alex Landazuri 1 year, 3 months ago

how was that a hissy fit in regards to the tax plan getting vetoed? i was just calling you out on your bs. also, nice way to side step the question of if you live here or not.

Steve Ewing 1 year, 3 months ago

Kansas has more problems than what is going to be solved by tax hikes. I came up from Texas, and in Texas you don't have state income taxes, no property taxes on your vehicles, no sales tax on groceries, the cost of living is lower and the standard of living is higher, along with wages. The taxes in this state are unbelievable, and what do you have to show for it? Nothing. In 2014, Kansas was in the top 10 states of those that people were moving out of, per a survey done by national moving companies. You raise taxes, you're just going to lose more of the professional, skilled labor force between their 20's and 50's to states that are more financially appealing.

Paul Beyer 1 year, 3 months ago

brownie was elected gov in 2010. Could it be people started leaving when it became apparent Kansas republicans would strongly, as usual, vote against their own best interests?

Brad Avery 1 year, 3 months ago

There's an old song line by the Beatles that's appropriate here, "Get back! Get back! To where you once belonged."

Theodore Calvin 1 year, 3 months ago

In Texas you have oil income, and tourism dollars. In KS we have limited oil income and tourism is nil. Comparing us to the no-tax states is not an apples to apples comparison. They are able to create revenues using other streams that KS doesn't have and never will. It's not like those other states are just not realizing additional revenue and are spending wayyyyy less. They are spending the same, but the money spend is not revenue realized by taxing individual wage-earner income. Your argument doesn't hold water and is not an equal comparison.

Steve Ewing 1 year, 3 months ago

That's all the more reason that Kansas is going to have to either cut spending or start being more creative and start coming up with new revenues and attracting people and companies into the state rather than driving them out with tax increases.

Alex Landazuri 1 year, 3 months ago

last i checked, texas has oil income to offset all of the items that you mentioned. it helps if you compare apples to apples, not apples to oranges

Steve Ewing 1 year, 3 months ago

There a state, we're a state. It's not apples and oranges. They know how to capitalize on their assets to run their state. While it appears that Kansas really hasn't developed a game plan over the past several decades to try to develop a condition to where people and companies want to move and live here.

Theodore Calvin 1 year, 3 months ago

So basically, despite all economic indicators, you are suggesting that what they're doing is working? I can agree that states need a plan, and need to capitalize on their assets, but how is what KS is doing accomplishing that? While relying heavily on income tax, before Brownback there weren't extreme revenue shortfalls like we're currently experiencing. How can you act like these LLC cuts are accomplishing the things you suggest? Before then the state seemed to be functioning fine. Now whether you think they were spending too much here or there, that is up for debate, but on the whole we were not facing the extreme shortfalls and cut in services we are now seeing.

Renee Patrick 1 year, 3 months ago

Please help Kansas identify its comparable assets.

Alex Landazuri 1 year, 3 months ago

again, you are wrong. texas has more revenue creating streams than we do here in ks. but since you seem to think we have the same opportunity, please enlighten us all......

Steve Ewing 1 year, 3 months ago

Well that's the problem, when the state is in the top ten for people wanting to move out of, we're going to have to come up with ideas to keep them here and attract new ones. With all the govt. agencies that this state has it should have at least one focused on coming up with new ideas to keep and attract people and businesses (and I'm talking about companies that will pay 60K and up in wages and not minimum wage jobs) otherwise you're going to have a dwindling number of people paying more in taxes and in the future a bankrupt state.

Theodore Calvin 1 year, 3 months ago

So no actual ideas? Just platitudes and rhetoric. And...oh yes the blame game. It's the people moving out that are sucking the resources? Ha! That is the biggest load I have heard. I thought it was the illegal immigrants, and Kobach's illegal voters ruining our state? You mean to tell me KS' problems are because people are coming here, using KS' resources, and then exiting the state leaving KS with the bill? Again, Ha!

Steve Ewing 1 year, 3 months ago

What gibberish. But, yes, the days of the free lunches are over. People are going to have to learn that if they want to live, they're going to have to work. No one owes you a living, and we have way too many on the welfare roles because they're lazy and uneducated.

Theodore Calvin 1 year, 3 months ago

Oh, so now it's people not working that are causing the problem? Keep blaming. Again. Ideas? Just saying we need to create an environment people want to come to isn't an idea. I think that is the goal of every state. How do we accomplish that? You are suggesting that these policies will accomplish that, despite all indicators they are not. The regressive policies ARE the reason people are leaving, that's the problem...oh and people like you voting these fools in. These Repub policies have been in place for some time and still no shot of adrenaline. Still waiting...

Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 1 year, 3 months ago

Texas has oil and tourism and a whole lot of federal money and jobs flowing into it.

Richard Quinlan 1 year, 3 months ago

Texas taxes in a very robust way also , different from other states but none the less a lot. 26% of state revenue from sales taxess , see article below ,

Steve Ewing 1 year, 3 months ago

Texas sales tax is 6.25 % Kansas is 6.5 %, once again, Kansas is higher!!

Richard Heckler 1 year, 3 months ago

Because of Brownback and libertarian inspired tax dollar mismanagement.

He was directed by the Koch dynasty to veto .........

Richard Heckler 1 year, 3 months ago

What can one expect from a Libertarian Fundamentalist Fascist ....... he is not a republican.

Meanwhile .....

If you cut wages, you cut the number of your own customers. If an employer does not share prosperity with those who make him prosperous, then pretty soon there will be no prosperity to share.

We like to have plenty of customers. ----Henry Ford, explaining why he more than doubled wages in the midst of 1914's deep recession.

Gary Denning 1 year, 3 months ago

I'm sure this veto will preserve Governor Brownback's legacy-- of being a totally ineffective leader.

Fred Whitehead Jr. 1 year, 3 months ago

LIBERAL, LIBERAL, LIBERAL, LIBERAL!!!!,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,There...........we have all heard these proponents of Rush Limbaugh over and over again and are aware of the loons and jerks among us. One more time...........(screaming!!! LIBERAL!!!!!!!! whew!)

Fred Whitehead Jr. 1 year, 3 months ago

Oh, the "so called" governor................."Ignorant, careless, unconcerned, etc FOOL!

Richard Heckler 1 year, 3 months ago

The Kansas Chamber of Commerce is a special interest PAC for the American Legislative Exchange Council. The chamber another bogus front group. Obviously this group knows nothing about commerce or smart tax dollar management.

More than likely the Gov was seeking additional campaign money to stash in his bank account.

Paul Beyer 1 year, 3 months ago

The House just voted to over ride his veto. Now it's up to the Senate, assuming Wagle even allows an attempt.

Greg Cooper 1 year, 3 months ago

Didn't happen, Paul A very few who voted for the bill showed their cowardice and voted against the override. How interesting.

Carol Bowen 1 year, 3 months ago

We might want to mellow partisan thinking. Some Democrats voted against the bill because of its affect on the middle class (whatever that is). The deduction for mortgage interest is eliminated, and I think I read that the tax rate on middle incomes is increased. The new tax structure will increase taxes for middle incomes.

The Kansas budget is so deep in debt that we will have to pay the debt while we pay for the present and future. I'm betting our taxes will double - sales tax, property tax, fees.

Nancy Hamilton 1 year, 3 months ago

Ask Steve Ewing how much he paid in property tax in TX. Here is the reason why he didn't bring that up. TX makes up for not having state income tax with higher property taxes. When we moved to KS in 2004 (or rather when we bought a house in 2005), what we paid in state income tax was just about the difference between property tax in TX and then in KS. As far as we could tell, the only benefit to not having state income taxes is that you didn't have to fill out the tax forms.

Steve Ewing 1 year, 3 months ago

Well let's see, Texas wages are higher, no state income taxes, no property taxes on your vehicles, no sales tax on groceries, while Kansas is higher in all of these (except wages), if there is one negative of higher property taxes on your home, you're still a lot better off. Maybe that wasn't true for you, but it must have been true for a lot of others in making Kansas in the top ten states that people moved out of rather than in. Oh, and Texas is in the top 10 states that people are moving too. So, the proof is in the numbers, people move where conditions are better.

Kristine Matlock 1 year, 3 months ago

you should really check some facts before spewing off ignorant comments. Here are the facts:

Before Brownback and his failed policies and tax cuts, the state was gaining private sector jobs at a faster rate than they have since he took office. Yes, we got income tax cuts. He also reduced the deductions we could take and many now pay the same or higher taxes because of this (especially those making $25K per year or less). Those making over $250K/year got great tax savings. They also raised the state sales tax, so we all pay more. Local govts have raised property taxes to make up for money they are no longer receiving.

The cost of living in TX is higher than the cost of living in KS. That's why wages are higher in TX.

Maybe you should go back home.

Nancy Hamilton 1 year, 3 months ago

Oh, and TX public schools are crap, at least in Dallas. Hey, I am with you on the grocery sales tax. But, the reality is that the property tax more than makes up for the sales tax.

Jim Fisher 1 year, 3 months ago

Can we veto this guy? In all seriousness, Tom Holland, can this veto be overridden? I know all that is needed is one stalwart Republican.

Find it.

Start this guy's slow, painful spiral out of politics forever.

Greg Cooper 1 year, 3 months ago

Or how about the few Dems that voted against the override? This is not a complete Dem issue, Jim. It's a state issue, and we now know who is anti-Kansas in the legislature.

Jim Fisher 1 year, 3 months ago

Steve, go back to Texas and let us deal with our own. You just have had to have lived it.

Galyn Yeager 1 year, 3 months ago

Yep, I went on vacation last year, I was gone a week, and I went to Texas. A vacation in Kansas??? That would be a day trip some place at best. Comparing Texas to Kansas is like comparing prunes to pineapples, there is no way in any shape or form it can be done....Unless you are so far out of reality that doesn't matter.

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