Archive for Wednesday, November 9, 2016

Trump’s win brings disappointment and hope for area voters

At left: President-elect Donald Trump pumps his fist during an election night rally, early Wednesday, Nov. 9, 2016, in New York. At right: Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton walks off a stage Wednesday after speaking in New York.

At left: President-elect Donald Trump pumps his fist during an election night rally, early Wednesday, Nov. 9, 2016, in New York. At right: Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton walks off a stage Wednesday after speaking in New York.

November 9, 2016


On the other side of a presidential election that favored Donald Trump, area voters are expressing surprise and disappointment, but also some optimism, as they come to terms with the unexpected results.

“For me it was just an incredible shock,” said Lawrence resident Cynthia Haines. “I was watching the returns and I thought, ‘OK, things will start to turn at a certain point.’ And they never did. I just thought I’d go to sleep and wake up in the morning and that it was just a bad dream, but it wasn’t.”

Even if they were surprised by the results, others said they saw the outcome as an accurate reflection of a changing mood in the country.

“The people in politics wanted (Hillary Clinton), but I think that just shows that the American people were ready to move beyond traditional politicians,” said Tonganoxie resident Debra Fickler, an area health care worker who voted for Trump.

As predicted, Trump carried the state of Kansas with large margins. While the state’s historically Republican showing likely meant few voters expected Kansas’ electoral votes to go to Clinton, some said they cast a ballot for her on principle.

“A lot of what we saw during the election and media coverage was a notion of false equivalencies, like Hillary is corrupt and can’t be trusted because she used a private email server, but we have a candidate on the Republican side who is spouting xenophobic and racist remarks,” said Lawrence resident and University of Kansas student Ian Hierl.

“He’s talking about sexually assaulting women, he’s mocking people with disabilities, he’s generalizing about entire nations, he’s lying,” Hierl said.

Trump’s divisive language

Trump was heavily criticized for comments he made about women, immigrants, people with disabilities, Muslims and other marginalized populations.

Despite some of the divisive rhetoric of Trump’s campaign, some local leaders are hoping that people of all backgrounds will come together at the community level. NAACP chapter president Ursula Minor, who described herself as an optimist, said that she thought it was possible to overcome some of the polarization of the campaign.

“I’m still processing quite a bit of it; what it could mean and what it may not mean, I don’t know,” Minor said. “I just hope we can affect what’s around us and that any decisions made doesn’t come down and change things. I’d hate to see everybody still be so divided. It’s done, so hopefully we’ll be able to pick up and move on and still make this a good place to be.”

Minor said she thought that would take open-mindedness as well as ongoing dialogue between all members of the community.

Hierl, who self-identifies as queer, is also worried that a Trump presidency could mean a repeal of the Supreme Court’s gay marriage decision or abortion rights for women.

“My main fear is the long-lasting effects on the Supreme Court,” Hierl said.

Trump will appoint at least one Supreme Court Justice during his term, and potentially more, as three members of the court are in their 70s or 80s.

Clinton controversies

Clinton, though, wasn’t without her own critics.

Fickler said that controversies surrounding Clinton, including her use of a private email server while secretary of state, tipped the scales in favor of Trump. Still, Fickler said voting for Trump was “really hard” because she did want a woman president, but didn’t think Clinton was right for the job.

“I think it’s sad that it’s taken so long for a woman candidate,” Fickler said. “At the same time, I don’t think she was the right woman, in my opinion, just because of the controversy. There’s just too many questionable things that have happened in her past.”

The FBI investigated Clinton for her use of the private email server, but ultimately did not file any charges against her. Clinton was also the subject of a congressional hearing regarding four Americans who were killed in Benghazi, Libya, but was cleared of wrongdoing.

But the controversies and the elements of Clinton’s campaign that Hierl didn’t agree with still didn’t hold as much weight as Trump’s, Hierl said.

“My reservations against her are barely comparable,” Hierl said.

Fickler also said she didn’t think Trump alone could have a large effect on gender issues.

“We’re one of the most liberal countries in the sense of women’s rights, and what we can do and we can’t do,” she said. “I think people need to take a deep breath; the United States isn’t going to change overnight just because he’s president.”

Douglas County election map: President 2016
Breakdown of votes for president, Nov. 8, 2016
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Source: Douglas County Elections Office unofficial results

Health care

During his campaign, Trump also vowed to repeal the Affordable Care Act. That promise has some local health care providers that rely on federal ACA funding preparing to deal with major changes.

“I’m taking him at his word, that he will repeal the Affordable Care Act,” said Beth Llewellyn, CEO of Health Care Access, a medical clinic serving the low-income and uninsured residents of Douglas County.

“That’s going to create a new kind of confusion in the health care marketplace and for health care providers trying to serve people,” Llewellyn said. “And for us, it intensifies the importance of us needing more help for a longer period from our community to care for folks that don’t have insurance.”

Also counting on some level of change, state hospital representatives are putting stock in other forms of support, most notably from new and incumbent state lawmakers.

“I think on the state level, we feel that there is going to be an excellent opportunity for folks in Kansas to continue to have conversations about numerous health care issues,” said Cindy Samuelson, vice president of the Kansas Hospital Association.

“As you know we’ve really been working on expanding KanCare, and I think there’s a better opportunity to be able to have a conversation about that as well as other health care issues in 2017,” Samuelson said.

Going forward

Despite her ultimate decision to vote for Trump, Fickler admitted her decision wasn’t without its reservations, and that there were some doubts surrounding a Trump presidency.

“I think it’s kind of scary, because it’s someone who is not tested,” Fickler said.

Still, Fickler is hopeful about what Trump might accomplish, especially when surrounded with capable staff. Trump’s promises to bring back jobs also resonated with Fickler, and she said that it makes sense for someone who is in business to run a country.

“His whole emphasis of his campaign was really putting people to work,” Fickler said. “If you put people to work there should be less need for welfare, but you have to do it in a manner that doesn’t put the country in further debt.”

While Haines said she thought Trump had “lost good will” with the world, she wasn’t all negative. Haines said that after watching Clinton urge people in a concession speech Wednesday to continue working for what they thought was right, she was feeling more hopeful.

“She’s a real class act,” Haines said. “And we can whine about it all we want, but she really made the point that we’ve just got to come together as a country and say, ‘OK, half the country wanted this man, and let’s make the best of it.’”


Brett McCabe 1 year, 4 months ago

A repulsive man such as this certainly has not earned the restraint, class and dignity being shown by both Hillary and Barack. In fact, his success depends on no one else being willing to go as low as he will. That's how he wins.

Time now for us to say No. To get respect, you must give it. Mobilizing a hate-filled mob may impress some people, but it doesn't impress me.

Time now to begin a countrywide resistance to this pig of man. I've made a decision to stop standing for the anthem, beginning with the ISU game on Saturday. For 54 years, I've stood diligently for an anthem that represented both the good and the bad of this country. No longer - it's too much bad for me. Time to take a stand by taking a seat. #sititout.

Brandon Devlin 1 year, 4 months ago

Congrats. . .you don't impress me either. When I see you not standing for the anthem, I'll be sure to point you out to my sons as "just another whiner who didn't get his way." #Wah

Brett McCabe 1 year, 4 months ago

Or, maybe you could point to your new president and tell them how to treat women, or go bankrupt, or cheat on their wives, or evade military service. All really good lessons to the patriots on the right, and lessons that each of your children should learn from their father.

Brandon Devlin 1 year, 4 months ago

Until you relinquish your passport and citizenship, Brett, guess what? He's your President, too. I didn't vote for him, but I'm not whining about it, either. My children will learn about serving this country, paying their bills and being good citizens from their parents. . .nobody else. #LeadFromTheFront

Barb Gordon 1 year, 4 months ago

Plenty of people claimed Obama wasn't legitimately the president. One of those people was Donald Trump.

Barb Gordon 1 year, 4 months ago

If you're going to nitpick at people over saying "your president" instead of "my president," I'm just pointing out that they're following the example of our newly elected leader.

Who also, fun fact, encouraged rioting against Obama when he thought Romney had won the popular vote.

Armen Kurdian 1 year, 4 months ago

Shame on you Brett. There's a lot of people who just want to heal, move forward, and get past this. Enough anger, hate, vitriol, etc. it's too much. Don't disparage the symbol of what the country stands for because you don't agree w/an election.

You can help by just letting this go and being a voice for change. Aren't you tired of this already?

Please, just enough of the anger from all sides. Let's put down the pitchforks and try to heal the country.

Brett McCabe 1 year, 4 months ago

Exactly the wrong approach. Passivity and laziness on the left is the actual bigger problem and your post highlights it.

This is one way to voice change. Sitting back and taking it, is not.


Barb Gordon 1 year, 4 months ago

Why do you hate freedom of speech? Not standing is a form of non-violent protest, and given the last couple of days, you'd think it would be preferable to the rioting. Letting it go is not an option. No social change has ever happened from letting it go.

Nathan Anderson 1 year, 4 months ago

I'm sure your simplistic explanation branding those that disagree with you as hateful bigots is comforting, but it's wrong. I know a handful of center-left Democrats that voted for Trump, and he received 29% of the Hispanic vote, more than Clinton in 1996 and Obama in 2012.

Btw, if it matters, and it shouldn't, I plugged my nose and voted for Hillary because I don't think Trump has the temperament to be president. I hope I'm wrong.

Barb Gordon 1 year, 4 months ago

They're not all deplorable racists, but they did all vote for one.

Brett McCabe 1 year, 4 months ago

I always turn to the feralist for cogent analysis and historical perspective.

Barack's real legacy, for those too thick to understand it, is the fact that he held this nation together for the past six years as the vile underbelly of the country attacked and while two worthless arms of government, both controlled by republicans, spent six years trying to create economic crisis for regular citizens.

It's clear that the sexist and racist hatred has been boiling up in you and your friends. The fact that America's first black president could keep you at bay for this long is a testament to the skill of the greatest U.S. President since FDR.

Now, as the poor-mannered punks celebrate electing their "lout of the month", we'll get to watch while you screw it up. Because, that's what you do. Just ask Sam Brownback.

Bob Smith 1 year, 4 months ago

Calm down, Brett. You'll rupture something.

Justin Hoffman 1 year, 4 months ago

Someone take away any sharp objects Brett might have. By the way, thanks for taking down that hideous picture you had next to your name.

Fred Whitehead Jr. 1 year, 4 months ago

Hail to the pervert!! The now-revealed conscience of the United States of America to it's own citizens and the rest of the world. This is the example we have for our children, a proven sex fiend and offender who was selected by a dangerous majority of citizens as the example to present to the rest of civilization. The elevation of the attitudes of this bigoted, racist, fascist fool will bring untold problems to the nation.

I have never seen such noxious events as have occurred the last week. I am 72 years old. Maybe I will not be here to see the end of civilized and decent process, but it is coming. We have doomed our future citizens to a black and disgusting outlook and the downfall of any sense of civility and decency in national character. Donald Trump is the example for our descendants and in no way will this be positive.

Already the Russians are praising him and lauding his victory. Can there be no more alarming and damning situation?

Gene Douglas 1 year, 4 months ago

And no 'roundabout' rants!.... In the community he's humorously known as 'roundabout Fred' And all his comments are taken very seriously...wink-wink.

Gene Douglas 1 year, 4 months ago

Fred, may I suggest you write something meaningful? Like a manual on "How to maneuver a ten easy lessons" That would be helpful...indeed!

Bob Summers 1 year, 4 months ago

Already the Russians are praising him and lauding his victory. Can there be no more alarming and damning situation?

Why do Liberals want Russia as an enemy? Why are Liberals always fighting someone? Why do Liberals riot when Trump wins the election?

Why do non Liberals not riot when Obama win?

Why are Liberals emotionally unstable?

What is the science behind their deplorable behavior?

Brett McCabe 1 year, 4 months ago

Well, because Russia sucks, comrade. Do you also have a man-crush on Putin?

Bob Summers 1 year, 4 months ago

Why do you and your kind hate so much?

Strike that. Science has already established the "why".

Cheerio mate

Brett McCabe 1 year, 4 months ago

Hate? Are you wearing your Killary shirt today, or have you gotten out of your pajamas yet?

Bob Summers 1 year, 4 months ago

Case in point. The opened minded, enlightened critical thinkers, can't help their hating.


Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 1 year, 4 months ago

Well, Bob. We put sanctions on Russia because they annexed the Crimea and threatened Ukraine. Why are you and Trump into appeasement with Russia. Do you favor Putin restoring the former Soviet Union? Want to build a wall in Berlin again?

Greg Cooper 1 year, 4 months ago

And what is the actual thinking behind yours? Got any answers other than silliness? Let's hear them, Bob, let's hear what you know that will help the nation heal and grow. Start a conversation, begin a teaching experience.

If you can.

Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 1 year, 4 months ago

None of the Obama voters didn't planned on blowing up a mosque in Kansas the day after the election either. Fortunately the FBI stopped them. Also, Obama won the electoral vote and the popular vote, so there was nothing to protest. Clinton won the popular vote. People are tired of their votes not counting. And when Obama won, people didn't go out and make threatening graffiti towards Whites. They didn't hang a white baby by the neck in an elevator. They didn't threaten people who didn't support Obama. That's been happening across the nation.

Barb Gordon 1 year, 4 months ago

"We can't let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty. Our nation is totally divided!"

“He lost the popular vote by a lot and won the election. We should have a revolution in this country!”

  • Donald Trump in 2012 when he thought Romney had won the popular vote.

So, you know, people are just doing what the newly elected president said we should do in such a case.

Richard Aronoff 1 year, 4 months ago

Yesterday, Dorothy posited that the media created Trump.

Here's something from CBS News --- not known to be part of any "vast right wing conspiracy"

Brett McCabe 1 year, 4 months ago

No need to blame others. We on the left let this happen, and Armen and his ilk think that more of the same will bring about change.


Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 1 year, 4 months ago

They are just covering their behinds. Look at the analysis below of how much coverage Trump got compared to Clinton. And they always kept the emails in the news, but not Trump's upcoming trials on fraud and possible child abuse? Sorry. The media created him from the start, and being a former tv personality he knew how to milk it and control it.

Plus our news outlets have gone from being a public service delivering news to needing ratings. Outrageous remarks from a faux reality tv show are going to get more ratings than a boring grandmother talking about the business of our country. That's why Jolie and Pitt are in the news all the time. They are much more exciting than someone like Don Rickles and his wife of about 50 years. Why report on a strong marriage of two old people when you get more rating reporting a volatile relationship of two younger, good looking people? Doesn't get you ratings. And why do they report on celebrities at all, unless the get arrested? There are special "news" programs for celebrities all ready, and fan magazines.

Nathan Anderson 1 year, 4 months ago

Your link undercuts your argument. The article says he got more media coverage but the tone of the articles, on average, was more positive for Clinton.

Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 1 year, 4 months ago

Then tell me why they didn't the media report about the law suits that Trump is facing? If they had reported more about that, than Clinton's emails, maybe I would agree with you.

Nathan Anderson 1 year, 4 months ago

Holy crap that was a good read. Spot on. Thanks for sharing.

Richard Aronoff 1 year, 4 months ago

Remember when white mobs took to the streets to protest the election of Barack Obama? Neither do I.

Cille King 1 year, 4 months ago

Obama didn't denigrate massive groups of people like Trump has done to women, blacks, Hispanics, Muslims, the handicapped.

Bob Smith 1 year, 4 months ago

There was that bitter clingers business.

Scott Burkhart 1 year, 4 months ago

I don't know, Cille, I'm still stinging from the "clinging to their guns and bibles," remark.

Barb Gordon 1 year, 4 months ago

That's just the cramp in your hand from clinging to your guns and bibles.

Barb Gordon 1 year, 4 months ago

I'm sure a Clinton victory would have produced nothing but quiet acquiescence from the right.

Bob Smith 1 year, 4 months ago

And to think that just a few days ago some people were all concerned that Trump supporters would be running amok when he lost. How things do change.....

Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 1 year, 4 months ago

Some of them have, but only local media is reporting it, and they are cowards. They are too afraid to do it in the open.

Now not all of Trump's supporters are like this. Many believe what he says will help them, and I hope it does. But these people are Trump supporters, and if you are not the deplorable kind, shouldn't you condemn them and reject them?

Bob Smith 1 year, 4 months ago

As Iowahawk said: " can either try to seriously understand why Trump won, or engage in personal catharsis through street theater. Your choice..."

Barb Gordon 1 year, 4 months ago

We'll just take comfort in watching him break every campaign promise he ever made. He's already walked back Obamacare repeal and building a wall.

It turns out, and I know this is shocking, but it turns out he's a giant liar. Who saw that coming?

Harlan Hobbs 1 year, 4 months ago

I was one of the first ones to predict that Trump would win. I'll admit I had my doubts in the final days given all of the propaganda and massive effort by all of the establishment folks to derail him. However, now that he has won, the liberals just need to follow their own advice when we were told after Obama won - - "elections have consequences" and "just get over it."

My next prediction is that Donald Trump will end up as one of the best Presidents that this country has ever had. He will lead a revolution for efficiency and honesty in government, and those who choose to stand in his way will be rolled over, as they should be.

The career politicians are a joke and do little more than feather their own nests. That is going to change, and the people we be the beneficiaries.

So, go ahead and continue your temper tantrums and get it out of your system. The future is much brighter today and will continue when he is successful, as he has been throughout his life. Meanwhile, the Clintons can go into hibernation and become an asterisk in American political history.

Barb Gordon 1 year, 4 months ago

Haha! A revolution for efficiency and honesty. Hahahaha! No, wait, you were serious.

Let's see if ol' honest Donald survives his pending fraud charges and other ongoing lawsuits while he gears up for transition. It's a busy time for team Trump while he appoints a cabinet of mainly career politicians and walks back all his major campaign promises.

Louis Kannen 1 year, 4 months ago

After years of overtly pandering Liberalism, we once again will return to the kind of positive, common-sense Conservatism upon which our Country was founded. I suspect that President Elect Trump is going to hit the ground running, wherein the very possibility of substantive, long overdue Governmental reform WILL finally once again take root and grow. I wish him God-speed.

Cille King 1 year, 4 months ago

Louis Kannen, What "positive, common-sense Conservatism upon which our Country was founded" would you like to see happen? I'm really wanting to understand.

Harlan Hobbs 1 year, 4 months ago

Sorry, Cille. You don't really want to know.

Not to steal Mr. Kannen's thunder, but here goes. How about starting with personal responsibility and taking care of yourself. More than 90 million eligible people are now out of the labor force, and more people are on food stamps than ever before.

I sincerely believe that the majority of them want to work but simply can't find jobs, and when it is easier to sit at home and collect the taxpayer-funded benefits, then you have a society based upon dependency. Not only is that contrary to what our founding fathers wanted, it is frankly immoral.

When people who are trying to earn a living but can't do so become of the massive increase in ObamaCare premiums and deductibles, we are taking from those trying to do the right thing to give free healthcare to those who in many cases don't want to work. As former President Clinton said, "this is crazy."

How about "religious freedom." We are constantly told that we have to accept the beliefs of the radical Muslims or else we are bigots. When the moderate Muslims stand up to these "children of unmarried parents (can't use the official term)" as that is considered profane, I will have much more empathy for the Islam faith.

When we are told that groups (women, blacks, and Hispanics for example) who vote in a monolithic fashion is proper but whites who vote for their best interests are "racist", then just who are the bigots (reference the communist leaning Van Jones, an Obama surrogate)?

How about the right to enjoy the fruits of your labor? Certainly, there must be safety net for some people. However, the past trends toward Socialism in this country are just plain wrong and have never worked well in any industrialized nation.

I could go on and on, but I'll let Mr. Kannen add whatever he would like to say.

Cille King 1 year, 4 months ago

On personal responsibility - how will Trump's policies help with more good paying jobs? He has a similar tax policy as our Kansas governor - tax cuts for the rich - which has lead to one of the slowest growing economies and lowest job growth in the nation. The lowest 40% income earners are paying more taxes, while the top 5% of earners are getting 80% of the tax cuts.

Also, the majority of food stamps recipients do work - but our low minimum wage isn't enough to support a person.

Religious freedom means that you are free to have your religion - as long as it isn't imposed on someone else. If a person doesn't believe in abortion - don't get one. If a person doesn't believe in same sex marriage - don't marry someone of the same sex. Religious freedom should not mean that you can impose your beliefs on someone else.

What group voted in a monolithic fashion? 43% of women voted for Trump, and many blacks and Hispanics voted for Trump.

Trends toward Socialism? The U.S. is one of the least Socialist of developed countries. We have more people in poverty, without healthcare, with food insecurity than many others. Desperate people, who have few or no options, do not raise our society.

Trump plans to reverse Roe v Wade, and combined with not providing sex education, and not funding birth control will only mean more poor, hungry people, and unwanted children. And if you say all children are wanted, I will believe that when there are no longer thousands waiting to be adopted.

Bob Summers 1 year, 4 months ago

CNN is forecasting, even with a couple million votes cast by criminal trespassers, Trump will win the popular vote.

Thumbs up to Hobbs post above.

Frankly, there are too many unproductive people sucking off the government teat in America.

Cille King 1 year, 4 months ago

Bob Summers - what criminal trespassers have voted? Kansas SOS was made the only SOS in the country with the ability to prosecute voter fraud, and after 16 months and three new attorney hires, he has only found 6 older, white American republicans to prosecute because they voted in 2 states. Not one illegal found.

As far as sucking off the U.S. teat - lets stop giving fossil fuel companies tax breaks and writeoffs.

Barb Gordon 1 year, 4 months ago

Not sure which CNN you read, but the one that reports from this planet says that Clinton handily won the popular vote.

Richard Aronoff 1 year, 4 months ago

Note to protesters: What difference, at this point, does it make?

Harlan Hobbs 1 year, 4 months ago

Cille, I have only one thing to add - - Suck it up, Buttercup! Hopeless liberals are no longer worth my time. The future is very bright, whether you believe it or not. You will continue to complain, but believe me, you will reap the benefits just like you did under Reagan. Bon appetit!

Cille King 1 year, 4 months ago

I did not reap any benefits under Reagan - I lost my job due to layoffs. Reagan nearly tripled the national debt (Reagan and Bushes are responsible for 93% of the national debt), he started the police state and mass incarceration that has expanded government and the privatization of prisons, he started the greater disparity between income earners with the massive tax cuts for the rich.

Harlan Hobbs 1 year, 4 months ago

Richard, we must give credit where credit is due. I stole one of my lines from El Rushbo, and I heard your line tonight by Dennis Miller on the O'Reilly show, or perhaps he stole it from you.

Happy Veterans' Day to all who are or who have served our country. True heroes and patriots.

Harlan Hobbs 1 year, 4 months ago

Cille, you are clearly an idiot. Obama racked up more debt than all of the other Presidents combined. If you lost your job under Reagan, you must have either been an Air Traffic Controller or in a non-worthwhile endeavor. Also, that was 30 years ago, so hopefully you haven't wallowed in your pity and sorrow all this time.

Cille King 1 year, 4 months ago

Harlan - you are the one that said that I reaped benefits under Reagan. I'm saying that I didn't. what benefits did you reap under Reagan? Did you have a for- profit prison? Or were you one of the top income earners who got a huge tax cut?

Barb Gordon 1 year, 4 months ago

I got my social security retirement age raised.

Barb Gordon 1 year, 4 months ago

When you're too stupid to choose an alt-right meme with proper grammar.

Fred Whitehead Jr. 1 year, 4 months ago

Hitler ran for President in Germany....He lost.....The people could see through him.

Trump has run for president in the United States. He won......seems that the fascists have learned something today.

Bob Smith 1 year, 4 months ago

When I contemplate how many executive orders can now be reversed by the stroke of a pen, I feel giddy.

Christine Anderson 1 year, 4 months ago

We are now the laughing stock and joke of the entire world! I went Democrat in 2012, when I finally opened my eyes to the hypocrisy that is the GOP. I am terrified for myself, my children, and my granddaughter in a Trump led country. I fear for the hate towards LGBT persons, those Muslims who are NOT terrorists, persons of color, etc. I am terrified this yellow-haired butthole will repeal the ACA. That means that in less than two years, when my youngest goes off to college, I am screwed!!! Due to the fact that Brownback spit 31 mil back in Obama's face, and refused to expand Medicaid in Ks, I will go down the drain. I will be a lung cancer survivor, on 18 different meds, with no insurance. Thank you to each and every idiot who voted for this pig. NOT!

Bob Smith 1 year, 4 months ago

We can say "butthole" without getting disappeareded?

Barb Gordon 1 year, 4 months ago

Way to show empathy, Bob. She's legitimately scared for her life.

Michael Kort 1 year, 4 months ago

No matter who would have won the election the worlds interconnected economies and Americas' could be in for a major shock because most of the worlds various economies are hanging on driven by a credit thread that resembles 1929,..... and nationalism is rearing its' ugly head everywhere .

One major banking collapse and who knows what will happen .

Starting out and out trade wars in an interconnected world economy that hinges on shared debts is like putting a bull in a china factory full of diner plates to be smashed .

No plate, no eat !

On top of that most things in this world ( commodities like oil, food, etc ) are traded in dollars to the financial benefit of Americans because of the full faith in the credit of our government but there may be a currency war in our future as the world bank starts its' own currency that is independant of the politics or financial state of any one nation ( such as ours ) with our enemies likely to support such a thing and abandon the dollar and our favored buying status .

Oh well, we will just have to find someone to blame for this all and make a scape goat out of them !

Welcome to Merica ! Where bubba's got your back !

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