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Brownback broadens order against refugee resettlements

January 8, 2016

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— Kansas Gov. Sam Brownback has issued a new, broader executive order telling state agencies that they can’t assist with resettling refugees who are security risks.

The order issued by the governor Friday applies to any refugees presenting a security risk to the state. Brownback’s office issued a statement saying the order recognizes the threat posed by terrorists or refugees sympathetic to them.

The Republican governor issued an executive order in November that applied specifically to Syrian refugees. Like the previous order, the new one also is aimed at preventing organizations that receive state grant money from helping relocate refugees.

The new order says the restrictions will remain in place until Kansas is assured that the federal government has an adequate process for vetting refugees.

Comments

Bob Summers 1 year, 10 months ago

Brownie should use the Danes Liberal plan to stop refugees from entering places they don't want them. Then he could not possibly be called a racist.

Several Danish nightclubs have imposed strict admission rules requiring guests to prove their ability to speak Danish, German or English, following multiple complaints of harassment from female visitors.

https://www.rt.com/news/329411-denmark-clubs-refugees-ban/

Bob Smith 1 year, 10 months ago

Ask the women of Cologne, Germany how they like the massive flood of refugees in their country.

Clara Westphal 1 year, 10 months ago

This is only an effort to protect the community. It is not racism or stupidity.

Fred Whitehead Jr. 1 year, 10 months ago

Like Hitler "protected" the country from the evil and dangerous Jews??

Lawrence Freeman 1 year, 10 months ago

" Iraqi refugee arrested in Sacramento on suspicion of lying about terrorism ties

Los Angeles Times | January 7, 2016 | 6:08 PM A man who came to the U.S. as an Iraqi refugee was arrested in Sacramento on suspicion of lying about fighting alongside terrorist organizations in Syria, federal authorities said.

Aws Mohammed Younis Al-Jayab, 23, reported on social media that he fought alongside various terrorist groups in Syria, including Ansar al Islam, but later lied to federal immigration officials about his time abroad, according to a complaint unsealed today."

Kendall Simmons 1 year, 10 months ago

Ooooo...scary. One person in Sacramento arrested on suspicion of lying means that he's guilty? That he was planning terrorist attacks in the US? And that ALL Iraqis should be banned???

Richard Aronoff 1 year, 9 months ago

Stupid comparison, Fred. Those Jews were assimilated, legal residents of Germany.

Kendall Simmons 1 year, 10 months ago

Nonsense. There will ALWAYS be bad people. But that doesn't mean you punish everyone in advance just because... Doing THAT is stupidity.

Whatever happened to the "home of the brave"?

Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 1 year, 10 months ago

The conservatives believe everyone is guilty until proven innocent.

Lynn Grant 1 year, 10 months ago

Made me sick. Let's just build a wall around Kansas. Not a bad idea, then we could keep those trying to escape the downfall of Kansas here.

Barb Gordon 1 year, 10 months ago

You'll have to. Kansas was the 6th most popular state to leave last year. I'm sure we can do better than that this year.

Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 1 year, 10 months ago

So one refugee out of how many? You would let others suffer for just one? Does this mean that since 1 preacher has been guilty of sex abuse that all preachers are guilty of sex abuse? Does this mean that all women who preach abstinence only education are easy?

Actually this story shows that the government is doing what they are suppose to be doing. They are vetting refugees, then keeping an eye on them, so if they turn out to be radicals, they can stop them before they kill someone. Good job, feds.

Lawrence Freeman 1 year, 10 months ago

Actually this makes two. How many times on these boards have people argued that if removing guns from citizens will save one life it's worth the cost?

Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 1 year, 10 months ago

And actually I'll bet they will find out these people were radicalized after they moved here. The bigotry they probably encountered might have helped. And he wasn't a Syrian refugee. Lumping him in with Syrian refugees is like saying that all people who speak Spanish eat tacos.

Kendall Simmons 1 year, 10 months ago

I speak Spanish...and I NEVER eat tacos :-)

But I adore chile rellenos. (And if you've never had Camarones Tres Mexicanos, you're missing a REAL treat.)

Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 1 year, 10 months ago

The vast majority of people who speak Spanish don't eat tacos. Tacos is a Mexican thing. There are a lot of people in Mexico, but the Spanish, most of Central America, South America - they all have to find a Taco Bell or other Mexican restaurant.

Barb Gordon 1 year, 10 months ago

How about lots of different religions that promote child marriage. And in the United States? Oh, you don't say!

"The survey found child marriage or forced marriage, or both, in families of many faiths, including Muslim, Christian (particularly Catholic), Hindu, Buddhist and Sikh. I have seen child and forced marriage in the Orthodox Jewish community, and I know survivors from Mormon and Unification Church backgrounds."

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/14/opinion/americas-child-marriage-problem.html

But if you want child abuse outside of forced child marriages, you can also look at the children who were abused and even killed because they followed the Christian teachings of the book "To Train up a Child."

Lawrence Freeman 1 year, 10 months ago

How about naming one child forced to marry under 16. If you can, call the police or FBI the parents will be in jail quickly! I'm not naive enough to believe it doesn't happen, but it's certainly not a pandemic problem, encompassing half the population as it is in islamic nations.

Barb Gordon 1 year, 10 months ago

Did you read the article I linked? Children under 16 are married in the USA with a judge's approval. Legally. Calling the FBI would not put the parents in jail. If you consider it to be a barbaric practice and want to end it, start at home. If you consider it to be an international problem, be aware that it's not an Islamic problem. There are many countries with high child marriage rates that are not predominantly Muslim. Mexico has a 23% rate. As in 23% of marriages happen under the age of 18. Nepal (predominantly Hindu) has a 41% rate. Ukraine 10%, Bolivia 22%, Columbia 23%, Cuba 40%.

It's a human rights problem. The sort of thing the US should campaign to end. Oh, except that it's also legal here. Doh!

Lawrence Freeman 1 year, 10 months ago

I read the article. I still believe the anti-slavery laws would kick in if if the FBI was notified.

Barb Gordon 1 year, 10 months ago

You can believe in unicorns if you'd like. It doesn't make it true. Child marriage is perfectly legal in many states. That's many levels of F'd up if you ask me, but that's our country.

Lawrence Freeman 1 year, 10 months ago

Guess why that's I carry guns. If I knew of a case where a child was forced to marry against her will, I would take action. Law be damned!

Kendall Simmons 1 year, 10 months ago

No you wouldn't, Lawrence. Stop with the big man with a gun keyboard talk.

By the way, here's a link for you to read: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/14/opinion/americas-child-marriage-problem.html?_r=0

Lawrence Freeman 1 year, 10 months ago

Kendall,to put it as nicely as I can, you are an idiot. I've read your link , and I would kill anyone who promotes slavery.

Barb Gordon 1 year, 10 months ago

So... you're now threatening to shoot people who are committing a legal act with which you disagree?

Barb Gordon 1 year, 10 months ago

Not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure in some locations that could be considered issuing a terroristic threat.

Kendall Simmons 1 year, 10 months ago

So...you've never heard of the FLDS Church? (Does the name Warren Jeffs ring a bell?) Or how about the Independent Baptist Church (you know, the Duggar family)?

Or maybe you think that child marriage against the child's will is not abuse? Like when 14 year old Elissa Wall was forced to marry her 19 year old cousin by good old Warren and the other FLDS "elders". (Warren himself is now in prison forever because of, among other things, his forcing underage girls (including one who was 12) to marry him and, yes, have sex with him.)

Might I also point out that some folks argue that, once a girl has reached puberty, that's "different". Well, considering that the average age of puberty for girls in the US now is just about 12...and still dropping from an average of 17 from 50-100 years ago.

Bob Smith 1 year, 10 months ago

There was only one cited in that story. Several more refugee ISIS supports were arrested across the country this week.

P Allen Macfarlane 1 year, 10 months ago

Well, it is election season. His aim is probably to thwart the feared mass migration of Democrats into Kansas from surrounding states before the next election. He is probably reacting to the unspoken fear of many Republicans that the numbers of immigrant Democrats might change the state politically from red to blue.

Ken Easthouse 1 year, 10 months ago

Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!

The process to allow refugees into the United States can take anywhere between 12 and 18 months, where they are vetted by national and homeland security agencies galore. Refugees from the Middle East can take even longer. The idea that we are so easily scared into compromising the ideals of the foundation of America is disheartening.

Bob Reinsch 1 year, 10 months ago

They will know we are Christians by our love, by our love. They will know we are Christians by our love.

Greg Cooper 1 year, 10 months ago

This is not an ideological decision. This is a decision based on the FACT that his trickle-down stupidity has not worked and that the state is lagging behind nearly everyone else in economic growth, is in a financial quagmire, social programs are taking huge hits, health care is in danger of dropping those most in need, and the state has nothing to offer anyone who does not already live here.

This is an appeal to the mass of voters who do not want to face facts and who will now hang their hats on the fear of the unknown as preached by the tea party's poster child, and the Koch puppet, Sam Brownkoch and his merry band of bought and paid for faux-legislators.

Fred Whitehead Jr. 1 year, 10 months ago

Brownback.....Trump,,,,,,Hitler.......

Oh my God, Fred, there you go again!

But once you finish rolling your eyes and attacking me, give it some thought. Brownback is a clear supporter of the outrageous declarations of Donald Trump who has found a way to gain popularity by addressing the lowest possible common denominator of our society.

And Hitler? I have spoken of him before. He rose to power in Germany by taking advantage of the horrible economic conditions after World War I. He promised to fix things, but gave no specifics as to how he would do this. (sound familiar??) He definitely "knew" who was to blame for the "[problem" (the Jews) and set about "purifying" the race. Trump blames the Muslims. Anything sound an alarm here??

Brownback?? Well he has mush for brains to start with, and he is following the popular line advocated by Trump, although he does not have the courage to really say that he is opposed to the Islamic religion or the Muslim folks. His "Christian" blathering should give you some ideas.

We are in for a real bad political season with horrific accusations and misleading TV ads by the Koch Industries Regime and their cohorts, and the country will be immersed in this racism, bigotry and stupidity until November of this year.

Brace for it.

Bob Smith 1 year, 10 months ago

That's sort of a harsh thing to say about Fred. It's basically true, though.

Fred Whitehead Jr. 1 year, 10 months ago

Kevin, me or Brownback?? I only hate politicians that are liars, idiots, fools who feed on the racism and bigotry that is out there in the population. Take a look at what happened to the Muslim woman at a Trump rally last evening.....

Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 1 year, 10 months ago

Dearborn, MI? Really? They make the deep South look liberal and openminded. I had a cousin who moved there for a job a few years back. He is white, so I guess they assumed he was of like mind. He was so disgusted by the open racism and general rudeness there that he took a pay cut to get transferred.

Lawrence Freeman 1 year, 10 months ago

From Wiki: "As of the 2010 census the population of Dearborn was 98,153. The racial and ethnic composition was 89.1% Whites, 4.0% black or African-American, 0.2% Native American, 1.7% Asian, 0.2% Non-Hispanics of some other race, 4.0% reporting two or more races and 3.4% Hispanic or Latino.[14] 41.7% were of Arab ancestry (categorized as "White" in Census collection data).[15]"

Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 1 year, 10 months ago

And what percent of the whites are racist jerks? My cousin ran into quite a few of them. And just because you are of Arab ancestry does not make you a Muslim. Arabs are Christian, Jewish, atheist, etc. Are you afraid of all those scary Arab Americans? And they are Arab Americans, not refugees. I really took you as more intelligent than that. Why not join Bob Smith and Bob Summers (coincidence, and lots of BS) in their bunkers. We promise to tell you when it's safe to come out.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/06/arab-americans-become-majority-on-dearborn-mich-council/3460591/

Lawrence Freeman 1 year, 10 months ago

I take it you still have not watched the videos. If you do you will see who the real bigots are.

Barb Gordon 1 year, 10 months ago

"any refugees presenting a security risk to the state..." Well, seeing as refugees are screened before they hop on a plane, and Syrian refugees even get a bonus round of extra screening, that pretty much means his new policy applies to no refugees.

Bob Smith 1 year, 10 months ago

Tashfeen Malik got through all the screenings with no problem.

Barb Gordon 1 year, 10 months ago

Tashfeen Malik was never given refugee screenings. She came on a fiance visa. And she was Pakistani, not Syrian.

Bob Smith 1 year, 10 months ago

The point was that fed's screenings are useless pieces of security theater.

Barb Gordon 1 year, 10 months ago

The point you were inadvertently making is that terrorists would be foolish to wait 18-24 months for more intensive screenings when they can get in much faster using one of the many other, much easier to obtain visas - visas featuring security theater, as you just put it. Just like Tashfeen Malik did.

Bob Smith 1 year, 10 months ago

"...Let’s be honest: When someone advocates for large-scale Muslim immigration from the world’s worst conflict zones, they are arguing that the West should open its borders to people who are overwhelmingly anti-Semitic, disproportionately religiously intolerant, and harboring disturbing numbers of men who have no moral reservations about sexual assault. Culture matters, and cultural differences exist for a reason. The miserable cultures of much of North Africa and the Middle East exist in part because of the very people who now wish to migrate to Western shores. I would be proud to welcome those who’ve demonstrated they’re committed to American ideals — and we do have allies who’ve bled with us on the battlefield who should be given safe passage to the West — but the burden of proof is on the immigrant, and proper vetting for terrorists is but the beginning of the challenge..."

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/429480/muslim-immigration-sexual-assault-terrorism

Richard Heckler 1 year, 10 months ago

Gov Brownback and his administration are very likely graduates of:

Meet Aegis Strategic, the latest affiliates of the Koch brothers’ political empire.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/01/koch-brothers-candidate-training-recruiting-aegis-strategic

ALEC Exposed ALEC/American Legislative Exchange Council

http://www.alecexposed.org/wiki/ALEC_Exposed

Bob Smith 1 year, 10 months ago

Dragging out your favorite boogey-men, Richard? At night, do you look under your bed to see if ALEC is hiding there?

Bob Smith 1 year, 10 months ago

Nope, I maintain a secure perimeter to prevent such occurrences.

Kendall Simmons 1 year, 10 months ago

No you don't. You may "think" you do. But you don't.

Bob Summers 1 year, 10 months ago

31 states don't want the refugees. That leaves 26 states that want them. Why not put Obama's refugees in the states that want them?

Dorothy Hoyt-Reed 1 year, 10 months ago

Guess what. If they come legally to the US, then can go anywhere they want. It's called freedom.

Bob Summers 1 year, 10 months ago

Put 'em in Colorado. They have extra money from pushing weed.

Legally? Since when do Liberals worry about people being legal?

Bob Smith 1 year, 10 months ago

Heck, send them all to Rahm's little slice of heaven otherwise know as Chicago.

Bob Smith 1 year, 10 months ago

If you've been paying attention to the news from overseas, you'll know the refugee rape-gangs were busy all the way from Helsinki to Cologne on New Years Eve. Coming soon to a diverse city near you?

Richard Aronoff 1 year, 9 months ago

Bernie Sanders wants us to be more like Sweden.

Sweden has announced that it will be deporting 80,000 refugees.

Brownback wants to be more like Sweden.

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