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Kansas U.S. House delegation votes for bill to cut $39 billion in food stamps over 10 years

September 19, 2013


All four Kansas members in the U.S. House voted Thursday for a Republican plan to cut food stamps by $39 billion that would cause nearly 4 million people to lose benefits.

The measure passed 217-210 with only Republican support, and now goes to the Senate. Democrats have said it won't pass in the Senate and the White House has threatened to veto the bill if it ever came to President Barack Obama's desk.

U.S. Rep. Lynn Jenkins, R-Topeka, whose district includes Lawrence, defended the bill, saying it would provide for families and children who truly need the program, which is called the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP.

"Congress has a responsibility to support and empower individuals and families in their time of need, and this bill will protect the ability of programs like SNAP to provide benefits to those who need them," Jenkins said.

Critics said the cut would hurt poor families with children, seniors, veterans and people looking for work. More than 47 million, or 1 in 7 Americans, depend on the program.

According to the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office, the plan would result in 3.8 million people losing their benefits.

A Senate version of the bill would trim SNAP by about one-tenth of the House cut.

U.S. Reps. Tim Huelskamp of Fowler, Mike Pompeo of Wichita and Kevin Yoder of Overland Park also voted for the bill.


lcarol 4 years, 8 months ago

Our representatives are something else? With the ever growing income equality in this nation, more and more people are falling through the cracks and Republicans are interested only in supporting this continuous downward spiral. Save that fetus, but starve the child. What a concept! Sixty seven percent of food stamp recipients are children. If you still identify yourself as Republican, you should be ashamed. I know I am ashamed of you. Also duly note not a single Democrat voted for this travesty.

pc9323 4 years, 8 months ago

Do do you think people should have to go without food or have a decent job?

How the US Government Stole $23 Trillion from the American People... true story, ask Henry Paulson where the money went.

Carol Bowen 4 years, 8 months ago

No surprises here. I write to our delegation only to make sure their tally is not full support for their votes.

arch007bak 4 years, 8 months ago

Wonder how these 4 would vote if there was ever a bill to eliminate the $5 billion/year the oil companies get in tax breaks? How would that elimination help the deficit they all claim to care so much about?

John Graham 4 years, 8 months ago

What is so wrong with trying to scale back some waste in a bloated social program?

arch007bak 4 years, 8 months ago

There's nothing wrong with doing that. However, part of the ACA or Obamacare if you prefer includes cutting back on waste in Medicare. Republicans such as these 4 then use that type of cut to scare Medicare recipients into believing Obama is trying to take away benefits from a system they paid into. The Defense Dept. is riddled with waste. Having spent years doing work with them I can assure you of that. Anytime cuts to eliminate that waste are mentioned, politicians such as our Kansas representatives and senators howl that Democrats are soft on defense and don't support the troops.

arch007bak 4 years, 8 months ago

Let me continue by saying that when issues of waste or fraud with Medicare are raised, the elderly aren't called out as mooches or living off/taking advantage of the rest of taxpayers. When issues of waste or fraud are raised regarding the Defense Dept. are raised, I don't see politicians saying that those in the military are stealing from other Americans. Why is it though with SNAP that apparently anyone receiving such assistance is treated as lazy, incompetent, criminal, etc.?

mccabetherealtor 4 years, 8 months ago

This is a great point. It's easy to pick on the poor because they don't contribute to campaigns and don't have a collective voice in the political process. It's sort of like bullying the awkward kid at school - all your friends smile and smirk while you make fun of the kid without a voice.

All government programs have waste, could be run better, need to be more efficient, blah, blah, blah. But no taxpayer-funded programs bring out the rage and criticism quite like the programs designed to help those with low incomes.

olddognewtrix 4 years, 8 months ago

The Republican party is showing that it is addicted to Midevil thinking.

63BC 4 years, 8 months ago

When attempting to portray oneself as intellectually superior, be sure to check spelling.


Corey Williams 4 years, 8 months ago

Since we are in the "midwest", I support the neologism of "midevil". Remarkably appropriate considering Sam's policies.

Matthew Herbert 4 years, 8 months ago

similar to President Clinton, when he made similar welfare cuts?

Richard Heckler 4 years, 8 months ago

Our government representatives are tax dollar moochers and should be removed from office.

Every one dollar in foods stamps = $1.73 GDP. Which is more than can be said about the ALEC Right Wing Party members aka the Kansas delegation.

Currahee 4 years, 8 months ago

No. Think of it this way. That dollar comes from taxpayers that needs to be repaid. So really all you get back is .73. Spending by government does not generate meaningful gdp. You cannot get something from nothing.

Tomato 4 years, 8 months ago

Every dollar spent on NASA generates 8 dollars of economic benefit.

So food stamps are the clear loser.

TongiJayhawk 4 years, 8 months ago

Wow! If that is true, all we need to do to get the economy going is to increase foods stamps another 10 fold!

question4u 4 years, 8 months ago

This is obviously only symbolic, since it won't pass in the Senate, but it's a great opportunity to advertise the Christian values of Kansans.

If Jesus were here he'd no doubt cut food stamps for at least 4 million people – probably a lot more. After all, isn't the New Testament all about tough love? When Jesus related that the prodigal son was told by his father to quit whining and go get a job he meant that as a lesson to all of us: be callous toward others and help them as little as possible.

Oh, and right Lynn, as you're making things harder on the poor make sure to claim that it's because you care. Jesus loves it when you do that.

Richard Heckler 4 years, 8 months ago

Our Kansas delegation posing as the GOP have played roles in killing jobs,medical insurance coverage and retirement programs totaling trillions of $$$$$$ in losses. The bottom line is ALEC Right Wing Party members are NOT good for business thus no good for the economy.

In essence the USA simply cannot afford the ALEC Right Wing Party that which masquerades as the fiscally responsible GOP. Essentially the GOP has been assassinated by the ALEC Right Wing Party.

Have voters forgotten why so many Americans are out work ? Believe me these millions upon millions of workers did not volunteer to become unemployed and desperate. How did it happen?

Republicans cost the USA too much money! And take out economies at the speed of light!!!

--- Why does the GOP Deliberately crash the USA economy? at will?

--- This GOP ENTITLEMENT - TABOR is Coming by Grover Norquist = Grab Your Wallets!

--- This GOP ENTITLEMENT - Bailing out The Reagan/Bush Savings and Loan Heist aka home loan scandal sent the economy out the window costing taxpayers many many billions and millions of jobs, loss of retirement plans and loss of medical insurance.

--- This GOP ENTITLEMENT Bailing out the Bush/Cheney Home Loan Wall Street Bank Fraud cost consumers $ trillions, millions of jobs, loss of retirement plans and loss of medical insurance. Exactly like the Reagan/Bush home loan scam. Déjà vu can we say. Yep seems to be a pattern.

--- This GOP ENTITLEMENT - Bush/Cheney implied many financial institutions were at risk instead of only 3? One of the biggest lies perpetrated to American citizens. Where did this money go? Why were some banks forced to take bail out money?

--- RECKLESS GOP Tax cuts = THE GOP ENTITLEMENT program for the wealthy which do nothing to make an economy strong or produce jobs. Tax cuts are a tax increase to others in order to make up the loss in revenue = duped again. Bush Tax Cuts aka

Michael LoBurgio 4 years, 8 months ago

tea party tim is a right wing ultra conservative from kansas who is pushing the government to default if social security and medicare aren't slashed. tiny tim is also a republican tea party leader in denying emergency aid to victims of super storm sandy.

yet tim the tea party puppet collected over $1.7 million in farm subsidies, his brother and father also collect millions federal farm subsidies. timmy also collected disaster aid to the tune of $30.000 dollars.

Huelskamp Farms Fowler, KS 67844 $ 1,799,867.35

Topple 4 years, 8 months ago

How about we cut some military spending instead of feeding Americans spending.

gatekeeper 4 years, 8 months ago

All these so called Christians need to read is this. Some of us have actually read the Bible (not our elected leaders that claim they're holier than thou).

James 2:14-18 - What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works.

Proverbs 13:41 - Whoever oppresses a poor man insults his Maker, but he who is generous to the needy honors him.

John 3:17-18 - But if anyone has the world's goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God's love abide in him? Little children, let us not love in word or talk but in deed and in truth.

So sick of the false Christians. This country has more "Christians in name only" than real followers of Christ. I would love to see our representatives fall on hard times and need assistance, but they are lucky and will always get it because they'll get permanent wellfare (they call it their pension from congress).

Corey Williams 4 years, 8 months ago

You missed the best one: 34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. Matthew 25:34-41

Starbrite 4 years, 8 months ago

If 4 million people lose food stamp benefits, is the public ready to step up and "fill in the gap" to help feed the hungry?

Most of us know of people--friends, relatives or neighbors, who are currently receiving food stamps and couldn't make it without them. They may be unemployed, or suffering from physical or mental disabilities such that they cannot earn a living wage, or elderly or children--our most vulnerable citizens.

Realistically, are we as individuals financially able to provide them with meals or help pay for their food on a regular basis? While we might donate occasionally to a food pantry or serve at a soup kitchen, the average person cannot afford to take on this increased financial responsibility. Yet, that is what will happen if the 4 million people are "cut off" from their life-sustaining food. They will be begging from us, their neighbors and friends.

Catalano 4 years, 8 months ago

If our society believes in the free market, then should they be responsible to make sure there are enough jobs for everyone?

Alceste 4 years, 8 months ago

Let them eat cake.

The wealth gap between the top 1 percent and the bottom 99 percent in the United States is as wide as it's been in nearly 100 years, a new study finds.

For starters, between 1993 and 2012, the real incomes of the 1 percent grew 86.1 percent, while those of the 99 percent grew 6.6 percent, according to the study, based on Internal Revenue Service statistics examined by economists at UC Berkeley, the Paris School of Economics and Oxford University.

The top 1 percent is defined as families with incomes above $394,000 in 2012.

The Great Recession hit the top 1 percent harder than other income groups, but the wealthy recovered quicker too. From 2009 to 2012, as the U.S. economy improved, incomes of the top 1 percent grew more than 31 percent, while the incomes of the 99 percent grew 0.4 percent -- less than half a percentage point.

"This implies that the top 1 percent incomes captured just over two-thirds of the overall economic growth of real incomes per family over the period 1993-2012," economist Emmanuel Saez of UC Berkeley writes.

The 1929 stock market crash that preceded the Great Depression, followed by World War II, reduced an earlier national income gap for decades. But it began to grow again in the 1970s, and has widened since.

Saez attributes the trend not just to technology and job outsourcing, but to the reduced power of progressive tax policies and unions, along with "changing social norms regarding pay inequality."

Alceste 4 years, 8 months ago

How much welfare did Kansas farmers get in 2012?? Well, since they've managed to keep secret the amount of crop insurance subsidies they receive, we cannot be 100% spot on. We can be darn close, though....and these numbers are just for the top ten crops:

(source: )

1 Wheat Subsidies $208,192,759
2 Corn Subsidies $136,840,701
3 Conservation Reserve Program $105,783,407
4 Soybean Subsidies $80,611,658
5 Sorghum Subsidies $57,092,826
6 Disaster Payments $18,872,521
7 Dairy Program Subsidies $3,146,123
8 Sunflower Subsidies $1,977,147
9 Livestock Subsidies $1,926,080
10 Cotton Subsidies $1,678,005

Kansas farmers on welfare cost Uncle Sam $16.4 billion in subsidies between 1995-2012. (source = )

And Kansas legislators are worried about $126 @ month food stamp recipients?? Driving the dirk in even deeper we have this remark: "Politically it's a great issue," says Kansas Rep. Tim Huelskamp, one of the conservatives who has pushed for the larger cuts. "I think most Americans don't think you should be getting something for free, especially for the able-bodied adults." ( ) Aren't these "farmers" on welfare "able bodied"? Incredible....

lcarol 4 years, 8 months ago

Thank you so much for this post. Truly puts things into perspective.

Evan Ridenour 4 years, 8 months ago

1 trillion dollars of subsidies aimed at giant corporate Ag is okay.

Feeding poor people? That is just darn unamerican!

Larry Sturm 4 years, 8 months ago

I agree with Eride if they can put out a trillion for corporate farms what is a few billion to feed the hungry.

FarleyM 4 years, 8 months ago

Americans need to take European cue. Kansas is awake. Does America have to collapse from the weight of paying for peoples needs they can get for themselves?

Dutch King: Say Goodbye to Welfare State AMSTERDAM September 17, 2013 (AP)

cowboy 4 years, 8 months ago

CNN reported last night that Agriculture Committee Chairman Frank Lucas, a Republican supporter of the bill, received a daily meal allowance of $127.41, or 91 times the average daily food-stamp benefit. Lucas is also notable as a recipient of the agriculture subsidies his committee doles out: He and his wife have collected more than $40,000 worth.

I would like to see a full accounting of our Kansas Rep's travel , per diems , speaking fees , and office expenses. These folks don't even file exact expense reports like you or I would have to , why ? If they are so concerned about spending why not..

File exact expense reports and return unused balances , which they don't Cease spousal travel Cease junkets around the world , send one rep , one dem and call it good Make it illegal for any member of congress to receive ag subsidies Did you know they get a dollar a mile for mileage , thats sweet Did you know they average 3 million in office expenses per year In the internet age do they really even need to go to Washington and live like fat cats Stay in your district and actually do some work for your constituents

Yes government reform is needed and congress is the place to start !

Sunny Parker 4 years, 8 months ago

Let them give up their cell phone plan to feed their children.

Alceste 4 years, 8 months ago


SOME of that data can be found via . This web site tracks salaries and trips. Basic, good data can be found at no cost. However, even the "good guys" have to pay the rent, so to get down and dirty stats, one has to join. Still: is the site that tracks are wonderful rep to Congress. will list names and salaries. Not sure if you can still track trips. (Ah....I have to be a LegistormPro member to get that stuff). Try writing Jenkins; ask for the data and see how swift a reply you get. Alceste has been Waiting for Godot for the data from her office.

Ah...yes.....PARTY TIME!!!! This web site tracks the free lunches and dinners these people's the link for Jenkins... that data seems a bit dated and I'm not sure why.....but is a force to reckoned with, although when it is all said and done, it's all for naught. The American people have proven time and again....and especially Kansans....the reality they're not only stupid, they love the misery because they keep sending the same hacks back to Washington.

Alceste 4 years, 8 months ago

Congressional staffers get their college loans paid by taxpayers

To demonstrate another perk you cannot get a straight answer about, despite direct, blunt inquiries:

I recently became aware of a "tool" used by members of Congress " recruit and retain qualified staff in the service of...." Congress. I am advised in general, the program enables participating Senate employing offices to authorize repayment of qualifying student loans on behalf of eligible employees who agree in writing to remain in their employment for a period of one year. I am advised some offices offer this as a benefit, others do not. Under the program, Senate offices are allowed to use up to 3.5 percent of the average Member's Representational Allowance for all Member offices. Individual participants can receive no more than $833 per month in benefits and no more than $60,000 over their lifetime.

Does Senator Robert's office provide such a benefit? If so, please advise as to how many staffers for the Senator are being given this benefit and what the total annual cost is. I am not asking for the names of the recipients or individual amounts, although those would most certainly be wonderful to have, please. However, I am requesting the annual expenditure within Senator Robert's office for this rather luxurious perk be provided.

You may email the data to Alceste or U.S. Mail the data to (redacted)

Alceste continues to wait: The same letter is sent every 4 months to all members of the Kansas delegation....not just Jenkins (the program is also used in the House) (or Roberts and Moran)......

"However, the Committee on House Administration did establish the Student Loan Repayment Program to provide House employing offices an additional tool with which to recruit and retain qualified staff in the service of the House. In general, the program enables participating House employing offices to authorize repayment of qualifying student loans on behalf of eligible employees who agree in writing to remain in their employment for a period of one year. Some offices offer this as a benefit, others do not. Under the program, House offices are allowed to use up to 3.5 percent of the average Member's Representational Allowance for all Member offices. Individual participants can receive no more than $833 per month in benefits and no more than $60,000 over their lifetime. The benefit is limited to the staff member only – their children are not eligible."

George Lippencott 4 years, 8 months ago

We have a seventeen trillion dollar debt and a half -trillion dollar a year deficit. We cannot continue that forever or we will end up like Greece.

The Obama administration essentially doubled our annual expenditures for SNAP (food stamps). That was argued to address hunger caused by the recession. We now argue that the recession is almost over but we continue to spend the added funds on SNAP.

We must either raise taxes or cut benefits. Almost all the benefits the government offers have strong supporters and are argued as being essential for something.

If you want to raise taxes, whose do we raise? Maybe the half who contribute nothing toward the costs of SNAP? If you want to cut something else – what? Defense is already on course for a 10 – 20 % cut. So far there have been little in the way of cuts for social services.

This is not about worthy programs being cut. It is about paying for what we want or limiting our wants to what we can afford!!

Alceste 4 years, 8 months ago

Moderate opines: "This is not about worthy programs being cut. It is about paying for what we want or limiting our wants to what we can afford!!"


It has been Alceste's experience on this message board that Moderate makes cogent points....but they're all in support of the wealthy; at the expense of the poor.

Moderate: Help Alceste understand why the SNAP program is so important to reel back in while the farm subsidies Alceste has already documented go unchecked. The farm bill was already passed.....and the 1%'ers were darn successful in separating food assistance from farm subsidies: before, the two were all wrapped into one piece of legislation. So, by making certain that phat cat Agri-business gets paid......some regular joe/jane getting a whopping $126@month in food support (only) are easy pickings for these wealthy types.

Alceste just don't get why wealthy people are always picking on the poor as "welfare recipients", but fail to recognize the stuff they get from gubment is welfare just as well.

Ah yes....but then, again.....this is Kansas.....and as we all know....In hard times, Kansans prefer to blame the poor......shrug

Over time, the United States has expected less and less of its elite, even as society has oriented itself in a way that is most likely to maximize their income. The top income-tax rate was 91 percent in 1960, 70 percent in 1980, 50 percent in 1986, and 39.6 percent in 2000, and is now 35 percent. Income from investments is taxed at a rate of 15 percent. The estate tax has been gutted.

George Lippencott 4 years, 8 months ago

Get the farm subsidies too!! In fact get all the pork. If the Republicans want to cut SNAP the Democrats should offer up cuts to various businesses! Then compromise.

If it were the wealthy we were taxing that would be fine. It is not. Much of the recent tax increases come as a result of regulation. As the prices of goods and service rise as a result the "rich" roll with it. the poor are subsidized and the middle sees a decrease in standard of living. This on top of the fact that the middle is seeing real reductions in earnings tat some attribute to public policies that reduce job opportunities for all.

If you want to continue the SNAP at the current levels who do you propose to tax to do that??? Are you volunteering to reveal your true income and be taxed on it?

Alceste 4 years, 8 months ago

Moderate opines: "....the poor are subsidized and the middle sees a decrease in standard of living...."

The middle needs to WISE UP and stop pointing fingers at nickels and dimes like SNAP and go after the real MONEY. Alceste has already noted the facts:

The top income-tax rate was 91 percent in 1960, 70 percent in 1980, 50 percent in 1986, and 39.6 percent in 2000, and is now 35 percent. Income from investments is taxed at a rate of 15 percent.

Those numbers at capital gains tax are a bit off....but close enough.

In answer to your question, Moderate, Alceste suggests we, as a Nation, go back to the 91% level of the 1960's......

Too many have too much and too many have too little. Period. It got nothing to do with gene pool or effort and everything to do with connections. See and read.

Outliers: The Story of Success Malcolm Gladwell and now David and Goliath: Underdogs, Misfits, and the Art of Battling Giants

The achievements that we chalk up to natural ability or individual resolve owe a great deal to factors we underappreciate: historical timing, the career paths seized by immigrant parents, family wealth, the opportunity to put in thousands of hours of practice. Society has more control over who succeeds than we imagine; our talent pool could be much bigger than it is. The hidden factors of success are distributed, if anything, even less fairly than talent and intelligence. And the income and class distinctions that govern their allocation are rapidly becoming more inequitable.

Quoting Wolverine who is quoting Magneto...."There's a war coming. Are you sure you're on the right side?"

George Lippencott 4 years, 8 months ago

Are you? Do the math. If we took all of what the "rich" have we will not end the deficit. They may make a lot but there are not many of them. I am on record for a uniformly progressive federal income tax rate that under current conditions would take everything above about 2 Million. Of course I consider that a bit punitive but if we are to have a progressive system we should not whack the middle class and let the rich off the hook. In addition I proposed eliminating all tax expenditures – if we want to give goodies to people it should be on the budget so it can compete with everything else.

The only way you can get the sums of money necessary to continue all the federal programs at the current levels is to almost double the taxes on the half of us that pay them. Admit it - that is what the progressives want. The result would basically make it stupid to go to KU because the tax system would take almost all of your gains. All the “animals would then be equal except for those with special tax benefits” – like rental property owners.

Now let us talk about rental properties. I believe you indicated you were into that business. The property owner gets to write off every expense associated with the property unlike the normal home owner who gets to write off only taxes. The landlord also gets to depreciate the property and when he sells it he pays capital gains and not what we charge the poor salaried players. He/she then puts the proceeds into municipal bonds and pays no taxes for the rest of his/her life. It behooves us to end that large rip-off and limit the deductions for rental properties and charge full taxes when the property is sold. That would be fair. I love how "progressive” Lawrence natives want to tax the “rich” when they are the rich but conceal their net worth with rental properties.

Alceste 4 years, 8 months ago

Stop with the you statements, or Alceste will match them salvo for salvo! OTHERS may have said Alceste was in the rental business. Alceste never has and never will. It would be sadly incorrect.

Safe deposit boxes of cash are not taxable. The cash does not generate income and is what is left over from already having had a larger amount taxed. Cash is King.

Tax rental property to the teeth. And a eureka moment: tax that 2nd and 3rd and 4th, etc. "personal house" with a federal tax of some sort.

It's been stupid to go to KU for a LONG time already.

Learn to live on less; forget what and you were; downsize from a fancy house to a more "modest one"; quit buying new cars (garages are houses for cars.....they should be taxed now that Alceste thinks about it....another Eureka moment.........) and accept the reality that one has to go to the CASH (non income earning) every so often when necessary. The property tax drain is one gnat that seems to have a key to the darn thing...........

cowboy 4 years, 8 months ago

Did you know that Tim Huelscamp and his family have taken 2.7 million in ag subsidies since 1995. Who's the welfare bum ?

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