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Immigration bill clears major hurdle; Roberts, Moran vote ‘no’

June 24, 2013


Immigration legislation cleared a key hurdle in the U.S. Senate today without the votes of Kansas' two senators.

Pat Roberts and Jerry Moran, both Republicans, voted against the so-called border surge amendment.

The amendment, which would double the size of the U.S. Border Patrol and complete 700 miles of fencing along the U.S.-Mexico border, was supported, 67-27 with 15 Republicans voting for it.

The over-60 vote support on the procedural vote to end debate, clears the way for more votes later in the week with final Senate consideration possibly Friday.

The underlying measure sets up a pathway to citizenship for approximately 11 million immigrants living in the United States illegally.

If the White House-backed bill gains Senate approval, it faces an uncertain future in the House.

Moran voted against the amendment and said he opposed the immigration bill because it attempts to do too much.

“Our immigration system is broken, and our borders are not secure," Moran said in a statement.

"Rather than focus on solving one or two issues at a time and delivering the reforms Americans are asking for, the Senate has chosen to lump every immigration and border security problem together into one massive and flawed bill," he said.

The Kansas Business Coalition, which is composed of 25 organizations, including the Kansas Chamber of Commerce, had urged the Kansas congressional delegation to support immigration reform.

"The Kansas Economy needs people to grow. The majority of population growth in Kansas is attributable to immigrants," said Brian Hemann, a dairyman from Hugoton, and a member of the coalition.


oldexbeat 10 months ago

I'm still trying to figure out if Ray Merrick, Kansas Speaker of the House, is an illegal alien or not. Any one have a clue as to when he became an US Citizen ? I mean his mother brought him into the US no doubt illegally from Canada. Is the Canadian border so open that no one is stopped from sneaking into North Dakota ? Really want to hear from him on this issue. He demanded President Obama's papers, as I recall. I want to see his...


Richard Heckler 10 months ago

Some repubs would rather keep 11 million immigrants in the USA instead of finding ways to employ the 11 million or more taxpaying citizens that the Bush/Cheney home loan scam put out of work.

IF republicans want to keep allowing more immigrants into the country then they best create work for all of those Americans they put out of work. We're not talking about minimum wage jobs.

Between the two big time home loan scandals and tax cuts for the wealthy the nation simply cannot the afford those pretending to be republicans.

BTW republicans blew billions trying to build walls on the border plus paying BOEING to create a virtual fence. The virtual fence never worked not to mention such a feature had never been applied to a wide ope border situation. Can we say fraud? Guess what? Wealthy border landowners are not going to want any type of fence on their property so GW Bush got told.

It is good that the Border Patrol is being expanded. Absolutely. Lots of Americans need jobs and want to work.


ljreader 10 months ago

None of those enforcements will ever be realized. Watch. Soon- predictably around an election time-, it will be said that "the system is broken". These poor people are without their green cards" through no fault of their own". They are (again) victims of a broken government. It's not their fault that government failed to implement the enforcements in a timely manner. blah blah blah. We will make things right by putting them on the fast tract to citizenship, and conveniently voting privileges. watch.

Anyone who thinks these "tough" measures will actually happen is a chump. Enforcement was promised but never happened after the 1986 amnesty- but this didn't prevent 7 other amnesties from being granted afterward. A couple of years ago, Congress voted on on a border fence- that didn't happen either.

If anyone was serious about enforcement, it would already be taking place- about 12 million illegal crossings ago. We have existing laws that are ignored and not enforced- and an administration who will sue anyone who tries. We are on our way to being a third world impoverished banana republic minus the palm trees and sunshine. chumps.


1Dem 10 months ago

The Hoeven-Corker amendment would require all 6 of the following conditions must be met before Legal Permanent Resident (LPR) status, or “green card status,” could be applied for:

  1. The Department of Homeland Security has submitted a comprehensive southern border security strategy that includes minimum technologies specified by Congress for each sector along the border, and the plan has been deployed and is operational.
  2. The Border Patrol has deployed 20,000 border patrol agents on the southern border, in addition to the 18,500 agents already stationed there.
  3. A total of 700 miles of fencing is in place along the border.
  4. Specific air assets have been deployed for use in patrolling the U.S.-Mexico border, including: 17 UH-1N helicopters, eight AS-350 light enforcement helicopters, 15 Blackhawk helicopters, eight C-206H (Cessnas), and four unmanned aircraft systems.
  5. The mandatory employment verification (E-verify) system has been fully implemented for all employers.
  6. The mandated electronic entry-exit system has been implemented at all international air and sea ports of entry within the United States where U.S. Customs and Border Protection officers are currently deployed.

ljreader 10 months ago

Once they legalize this batch (including the millions more pouring in now at the mere mention of "amnesty")- employers will have to give them legal wages- meaning MORE cheap labor will flood the borders. The appetite for cheap labor will not magically disappear.

If we had strong interior enforcement- E verify- Hefty penalties for employers that hire undocs, No perks for undocs, , etc, a border fence becomes less necessary. Birthright citizenship needs to be revisited. A huge magnet that costs us billions year after year.. And yes, if parents get deported, their kids (even the ones with citizenship by the mere fact they were born here) are their responsibility and can go home with them . They can always return when they are adults if they care too.

I think it would be a good idea to know just how many are here before giving them anything. The 11 million number has to be bogus. 3000-5000 cross the southern border daily. That's not counting visa overstays, etc. There is no way the number remains stagnant f@ 11 million for decades with that kind of foreign invasion. Bet there's at least 20 million- Thanks to chain migration, we can import all of their impoverished and low skilled relatives once they have legal status. Sounds like more jobs will be created at hospitals, clinics, emergency rooms, jails, and welfare offices.


pti3 10 months ago "US immigration deal envisages use of military surveillance at southern border" Tuesday 25 June 2013 12.07 EDT Ed Pilkington in New York

"But civil liberties groups and experts on biometric data fear that the focus on the border could have unintended consequences by spawning centralised databases storing details not just on undocumented individuals but on almost all US citizens. "

"Laura Murphy, director of the ACLU's Washington legislative office, said: "This is so expansive. We are really talking about a militarisation of the border on a scale that we have never seen before.""

"Margaret Hu, a specialist in biometric digital surveillance at Duke university, said that the bill's ambition to create a fool-proof social security card posed dangers for the general public. "If it is used to create a universal and digitalised biometric database through the collection of digital photos, fingerprint or iris scans, this could be used as a cyber-surveillance tool that could significantly impact the lives of all Americans.""

"Margaret Hu believes that such a verification device could only work if the government were to create a digitalised biometric database. "It would need a universal photo database of all citizens and non-citizens present in the US. That would be historically unprecedented, and the cyber-surveillance consequences could be enormous."" Article links: Fact Sheet on U.S. "Constitution Free Zone"


avarom 10 months ago

"The underlying measure sets up a pathway to citizenship for approximately 11 million immigrants living in the United States illegally. " Keeps the work wage cheap, in-house, and no benefits....there goes all the good


FastEddy 10 months ago

Atta' Boys for Roberts and Moran. The only issue that they need to be discussing at this time is how we are going to secure the border. Our immigration system is broken mainly due to a pourous border, where illegals enter at will. Any other issues should be addressed after it is demonstrated that our border is secure. Anything else at this time is politics. Both sides (D and R) know this is true, yet care not a whit about doing what is best for our national interests.


Catalano 10 months ago

I guess the Koch brothers trump the Kansas Chamber of Commerce with the senators.


Dick Sengpiehl 10 months ago

Moran and Roberts continue to be poor Senators. Moran used to be mainstream but no more. Kansas a very regressive state now.


Jock Navels 10 months ago

Allow the corporate controlled right wing nuts to remain in control long enough to lower the standard of living in Kansas until there's no good reason to live here. Immigration problem solved.


Dont_Tread_On_Me 10 months ago

Secure the border first, then pass a path to citizenship. Otherwise the flood of illegal aliens will simply balloon out of control as it did when Reagan tried amnesty.


Centerville 10 months ago

Build a welfare state. Flatten the economy that funds it. Open the borders. What could possibly go wrong?


tolawdjk 10 months ago

It has to be one massive bill because each side doesn't trust the other to vote for the stuff they want. out of it.


lawrenceloser 10 months ago

So what happens if more illegals cross over? Do we give them amnesty in addition to the 11 million? Or I suppose the fence will take care of that.


Garth Atchison 10 months ago

They have to lump them into one bill, because the do-nothing congress won't hold votes or pass legislation like they are supposed to. One giant bill can be forced with help from the media, so they have to load it up while they can.


Meatwad 10 months ago

Despite our elected (not by me) officials, who pretty much unfortunately always do what I expect them to do... I am curious as to why the issues are all in one bill instead of separated.


oldexbeat 10 months ago

The weak minded Jerry Moran was clearly told what to do by his owners the Koch Brothers LLC Ltm GOP, and senile Pat Roberts will always vote for bigoted positions.

They used to have brains but now just purchased straw remains. In a state where myth replaces science and half the workers in parts of Kansas can't vote, this type of government fits well. Orwell was,only early by 30 years reminder. Roberts allowed the lies and falsehoods that got us Iraq war number two. In a rational world, he would be in jail.


kansas_cynic 10 months ago

They definitely want to cement their legacy as the worst 2 senators in Kansas history.


Brock Masters 10 months ago

Thanks Senators - you did the right thing. It is a bad bill


Steve Swaggerty 10 months ago

Does it surprise anyone that Patsy and Moron voted "NO"?


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