Archive for Wednesday, July 17, 2013

Mizzou’s Pinkel pines for return of Border War

Missouri coach Gary Pinkel talks with reporters during the SEC football Media Days in Hoover, Ala., Tuesday, July 16, 2013.

Missouri coach Gary Pinkel talks with reporters during the SEC football Media Days in Hoover, Ala., Tuesday, July 16, 2013.

July 17, 2013


The Missouri Tigers may be on the verge of playing their second season in the ultra-tough Southeastern Conference, but head coach Gary Pinkel’s thoughts have not strayed too far from the Big 12.

Tuesday at SEC Media Days in Birmingham, Ala., Pinkel told Jay Binkley of Kansas City’s 610 Sports Radio that he missed Missouri’s annual match-up with Kansas University.

“I wish we were still playing Kansas,” Pinkel said. “You’d like to think that we’d get together and get that game going again.”

KU and Missouri last met on the gridiron in the fall of 2011, with the Tigers topping the Jayhawks, 24-10. One of the biggest reasons the Border War rivals are not still playing is the belief of KU athletic department officials that it was the Tigers who ended the rivalry by leaving the Big 12 for the SEC two years ago. Nearly all of the powers that be at KU — from athletic director Sheahon Zenger to men’s basketball coach Bill Self and football coach Charlie Weis — have shown no interest in resuming the rivalry that once was the longest uninterrupted series west of the Mississippi River.

According to Pinkel, now in his 13th season in charge of Missouri football, that’s too bad.

“I guess the way I’ve always looked at it was, if we could play it the first or second week of every season and play it in Kansas City, that would be great to do and I think both teams could make a lot of money doing it,” Pinkel said. “Hopefully some cool heads will prevail through this and look at it (and) we’ll have an opportunity to play it again and make it work.”

Big 12 Media Days

Pinkel may have had his chance to talk about the rivalry formerly known as the Border War at SEC Media Days on Tuesday, but don’t expect the Tigers or the topic to come up at Big 12 Media Days next week in Dallas.

KU coach Charlie Weis will join the conference’s nine other coaches and several player reps from each school Monday and Tuesday to preview the upcoming season. In addition to Weis, KU will be represented by junior quarterback Jake Heaps, junior linebacker Ben Heeney, senior running back James Sims and junior safety Cassius Sendish.

After that, the next key date for KU football is Aug. 6, when players are scheduled to report to campus for fall camp, which is slated to begin Aug. 7.

Heaping on the praise

Three Jayhawks landed in the top 26 of a recent article at that predicted the top 25 impact transfers for the 2013 college football season.

Quarterback Jake Heaps, who came to KU from BYU and sat out the 2012 season, was ranked third among all transfers nationally. Of Heaps, Athlon writer Steve Lassan wrote: “There’s no question Heaps should be an upgrade over Kansas’ quarterbacks from last season, but it’s unrealistic to expect him to contend for all-Big 12 honors. The Jayhawks also need to upgrade the weapons around Heaps for him to succeed in 2013.”

The funny thing about that? The other two Jayhawks on Lassan’s list were Heaps’ weapons.

Lassan ranked wide receiver and Oklahoma transfer Justin McCay 18th and said: “The Jayhawks are counting on McCay to emerge as a go-to threat for Heaps.”

He ranked Miami (Ohio) transfer Nick Harwell 26th, with his “Bonus” tag, and wrote: “Harwell still has some work to do in order to be eligible this fall. However, should the All-MAC receiver graduate from Miami (Ohio), he will give the Jayhawks’ offense a much-needed go-to receiver. ... Assuming he’s eligible in 2013, Harwell will be a starter for the Jayhawks from the first snap of fall camp.”

Harwell’s lawyer, Don Jackson, told the Journal-World earlier this week that he was still working toward getting his client enrolled in the classes he needs at Miami to graduate. Jackson said he remained “cautiously optimistic” that Harwell will be eligible to play at KU this fall.


newmedia 4 years, 11 months ago

We don't always get what we wish for do we..........My advice would be to spend a little more time worrying about Alabama, LSU, A&M, etc.

jhawkinsf 4 years, 11 months ago

They took their pieces of silver and now want absolution.

BigAl 4 years, 11 months ago

All time, KU breaks even with MU in football. All time, KU dominates MU in basketball. KU folks made it perfectly clear to the MU folks that if they left the Big 12, KU would be done with them. MU chose to leave, let 'em leave. I hope we never have to see that ugly black and yellow anymore, anywhere.

Andrew Reeves 4 years, 11 months ago

Pheps, you didn't say "better chance" on your first post. You said "a chance of winning". Big difference.

doctordave77 4 years, 11 months ago

The main reason that MU wants to play KU is because their KC recruiting is going down the tubes.

rtwngr 4 years, 11 months ago

Not to mention Texas and Oklahoma. They have one game with A&M each season and that is played in Texas only every other year. The Texas kids that don't get recruited in state are more than happy to go play D-1 someplace where they have a chance of playing in state multiple times each season.

jhawkinsf 4 years, 11 months ago

Missouri wants the games played in Kansas City, Missouri. The restaurants that would be filled would be on the Missouri side. The T-shirts sold on the Missouri side. The jobs created on the Missouri said. Taxes collected go to the state of Missouri.

Now having taken their pieces of silver, they want a few more. Go to H E double hockey sticks, Missouri.

Robert Rauktis 4 years, 11 months ago

KU vs. the SEC where "others" come in and beat you senseless. MU needs to get a rivalry going with Arkansas aka southern Missouri. Funny thing though, the cheerleaders will all look the same.

Uhjh 4 years, 11 months ago

Pine forever and day - I never what to see MU again!

BigAl 4 years, 11 months ago

Like T. Boone Pickens said: "No one cares about Missouri"

Haiku_Cuckoo 4 years, 11 months ago

It appears that the rivalry was a much bigger thing to Mizzou than KU. I never understood what the big deal was about it anyway.

rtwngr 4 years, 11 months ago

The rivalry was first about slave v. free. The rivalry predates the Civil War and both schools.

Haiku_Cuckoo 4 years, 11 months ago

If the rivalry was still about slavery I would find it interesting. Since it has now devolved into a football game though, I don't see any big deal. Time for Mizzou to get over it and move on.

Lora Gilliland Schneider 4 years, 11 months ago

Nope. Sorry. The minute you bring sports into it... the true reason for the rivalry is jaded. It's about sports and money now.

BigAl 4 years, 11 months ago

Great point. Here it is, SEC Media Days and we have Mizzou head coach Gary Pinkel talking about KU. The obsession continues.

Maggie Morrissey 4 years, 11 months ago

Perhaps if their departure was handled with more honesty and dignity, but the way it was one day they are heading up the crusade to save The Big Twelve and the next announce their departure (somewhat similar to Roy William's departure), it just solidified the “Muck Fizzou” made your bed, now you may lay in it!

Richard Payton 4 years, 11 months ago

Do Kansas football players feel snubbed by having no football players named on the preseason first team? West Virginia also had no current players on the preseason list but was listed has having the newcomer of the year Charles Sims.

Dale Stringer 4 years, 11 months ago

I don't have a problem playing a Missouri team every year in football and backetball. As long as it is Missouri State.

patkindle 4 years, 11 months ago

as long as ku does not need the money,,,,, I doubt if the game will ever happen,,,,, when the money is right , ku will play,,,, after all, ku did not get invited to the sec dance, mu did

Lora Gilliland Schneider 4 years, 11 months ago

They seriously act like an ex-boyfriend who cheated and now wants to come back. Um... yeeahhh... not going to happen.

Brian Conrad 4 years, 11 months ago

my eyes are watering.... ole Fizzou poor babies so glad all the MU fans in KC got what they asked for.. Jack Henry and all the black and gold should have listened . Pinkel is end of his rope.. another pounding in SEC and MU fans will run him off and MU will suck even worse in both sports..

cabmando 4 years, 11 months ago

pinlel better pine over employment.. we are the least of his worries.

Joe Hyde 4 years, 11 months ago

Once the KU-MU contest started getting played in Arrowhead Stadium the rivalry went into the toilet. Flushed away with the rivalry was the economic boost long enjoyed by Columbia and Lawrence businesses when those huge crowds came to town during alternating year home games.

So the only way I'd like to see this rivalry resumed is if things go back like they were. Play the games in each school's home stadium, alternating the years. Lawrence and Columbia both have a greater need than KCMO for the direct economic gains that would result.

Richard Benson 4 years, 11 months ago

Gary Pinkel. Gary Pinkel? Rings a bell. I guess.

riverdrifter 4 years, 11 months ago

KU to mizzou: in the 'shut up and go away' thang, you're halfway there.

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