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Statehouse Live: Bill to repeal in-state tuition for undocumented students introduced in committee

January 29, 2013

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— The annual battle in the Kansas Legislature over in-state tuition for some undocumented students started Tuesday.

State Rep. Brett Hildabrand, R-Merriam, introduced a bill in the House Federal and State Affairs Committee that would repeal the state law that allows students whose parents brought them to Kansas illegally to pay the lower cost in-state college tuition.

Hildabrand said many of his constituents have told him they don't like the current law because it "rewards" those who don't abide by the rule of law.

Federal and State Affairs Committee Chairman Arlen Siegfreid, R-Olathe, said he hasn't set a date yet on a hearing for the bill.

Under the current Kansas law, students are considered Kansas residents eligible for in-state tuition if they graduated from a Kansas high school or received a GED, have lived in the state for three years and pledge to become citizens.

Approximately 600 students are benefiting from the law at state universities, community colleges and technical colleges, according to the Kansas Board of Regents.

The law has been on the books since 2004. Numerous unsuccessful attempts to repeal it have been made.

The difference between paying in-state and out-of-state tuition is significant. A first-time freshman who entered Kansas University last fall paid $8,790 per year for tuition if he or she was considered a Kansas resident. A nonresident paid $21,750.

In the past, undocumented students have said they would have been unable to attend college by paying the out-of-state tuition.

The Kansas Board of Regents has said it supports the current law and will oppose attempts to repeal.

In a recent interview, Regents Vice Chairman Fred Logan Jr. defended the law.

"It's also important for our economy because those students are going to have better training, better education, and they are going to be really great productive citizens here in Kansas," he said.

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carrwatt 1 year, 2 months ago

While at it. Must pass mandatory Everify!

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ReturnOfLogicsound 1 year, 2 months ago

I can't walk in here without stepping in a giant heaping pile of jingoism.

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bobberboy 1 year, 2 months ago

might as well fill up all available seats at the in-state price rather than turn paying students away. Just because you're a hard a$$ when it comes to giving something away is not a good reason to reject a student who wants an education ! Why is it that we seem to have so many "scrooges" in Kansas govt. right now ?

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Larry Sturm 1 year, 2 months ago

I hope all of your ancestors had all of their legal work and citizenship papers in order or you might have to go back and pay back tuition plus interest.

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irtnog2001 1 year, 2 months ago

I have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand I see the argument that if they are here long-term it is better if they are provided educational opportunities. On the other, I don't see that they cannot attend private colleges on scholarship if they are bright and any way you look at it once they graduate they are not only competing with citizens for good jobs but probably have an advantage due to affirmative action.

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tsunami9320 1 year, 2 months ago

What part of "illegal" do these apologists not understand?

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oldexbeat 1 year, 2 months ago

Sure glad we're clearly not a Christain based state. The raw hate and totally racist outlook on these kids -- children -- that bring millions and millions of dollars to our state schools -- 600 times $9,000 times four years, etc., plus food, housing, and spending at school -- guess that money just isn't needed by the state of Brownbackistan (nee, Kansas). Oh, this isn't about money ? Huh ?

Oh, and that they then are even more productive after school might help our state, too.

For those that came after 1776 to my country, I would like to see some papers ? You know, when did your relatives come over free ? If it was after the Constitution, you might have to go back. Really. Same thing.

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pigballin 1 year, 2 months ago

yeah,,American citizens from other states that want to enroll at Kansas public institutions at a high er pay scale and the illegal's get a lower pay scale... What piece a of sh#! passed during the Sebilass administration.

Unpatriotic libs..that don't give a rats tail whether true born and bread Americans get equal status The illiterate's in the Kansas congress that do no repeal this stick legislation shall be removed from office by a new vote. Criminal congressmen stabbing fellow students from other states. Shut the whole congress down 10 months out of the year.

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toe 1 year, 2 months ago

Bringing children, babies, across a border is child abuse. The parents should be arrested for this irresponsible endangerment and their children placed in foster homes. Then if consideration for in-state tuition is needed, it should be done for the foster children.

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Armstrong 1 year, 2 months ago

Well the left has perverted the "fairness factor" on this subject too it seems.

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Cant_have_it_both_ways 1 year, 2 months ago

News reports today puts illegals at 47% who recieve some type of welfare, whether it is food stamps or some other kind of assistance. They do not have to pay taxes to get this assistance. This is pure BS. Send them all back, make those Americans on welfare or unemployment take those jobs.

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Bruce Bertsch 1 year, 2 months ago

The citizens of Kansas (Brownbackistan) have already funded the k-12 education of these students. They are not eligible for any financial aid, they must pay their own way. Since they are defacto residents, why shouldn't they pay in state tuition? Who dies this hurt? The short answer is no one.

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Paul R Getto 1 year, 2 months ago

Like the great ESSENE said, "make the little children suffer."

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Nikonman 1 year, 2 months ago

So if you are an American citizen from anywhere in the US, you pay almost 2 1/2 times as much as someone from another country. That's just not right. And I don't care how they got here.

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Ray Parker 1 year, 2 months ago

Keep illegal aliens out of our schools, out of our work force, and out of our country. Build the dang fence.

Fence jumpers

Fence jumpers by parkay

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patkindle 1 year, 2 months ago

this appears to be coming from the repubicans, evidently they finially figured out the number of illegal aliens didnt vote for any of them

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Leslie Swearingen 1 year, 2 months ago

I do not think that many can understand the conditions of those living in Mexico who, driven by desperation, came to this country on a wing and a prayer.

I have only goodwill and friendship for our brothers and sisters from our southern border. Those who take higher education for granted will never know the pride that comes from having a child being the first in the family to get a college diploma.

The self discipline that comes from getting a degree tells potential employers that you can stick with something and see it though to the end. If they have lived here for three years they are indeed citizens of Kansas, regardless of their parents citizenship, and should be able to get in state tuition. I applaud these students and their families and wish them well.

Do you know why you don't have to put a lid on a pail of crawdads when you are using them for fish bait? Because if one is near the top and about to get out, one of the others will reach up and pull it back down.

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autie 1 year, 2 months ago

If our society truly wanted the illegals gone they would have been rounded up and deported a long time ago. Fact is the Corporate plutocracy that runs your life wants them around for the cheap labor. They talk from both sides and guys like rockchalk and can't have it believe them. Talk about the sheep.

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seriouscat 1 year, 2 months ago

To all the people who are saying go home and stop taking jobs and free stuff...just so you know...since the LJworld had yet to report on this and no one is reading the above link:

"Details are expected to emerge this week about a bill establishing the outline of a state-managed worker program, in cooperation with the federal government, linking sponsor companies with illegal immigrants who have been in Kansas a minimum of five years."

"A likely candidate would be a person who entered Kansas on a visa that expired years ago"

Your republican legislature is hard at work for YOU! *comment sponsored by Cargill corporation

http://cjonline.com/news/2012-01-28/agriculture-interests-stir-immigration-policy

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rockchalk1977 1 year, 2 months ago

I wonder if US residents living in Mexico illegally could qualify for in-state tuition at the Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México in Mexico City?

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Bill Thompson 1 year, 2 months ago

Leave the law alone; I would venture a guess that most of these student didn't have any say in whether they were brought to the US legally or illegally and shouldn't be punished. Looking at it from a financial viewpoint if we could potentially lose several million dollars a year in tuition dollars if they are no longer able to afford to attend college. Leave it alone, it is mean!

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Nani700 1 year, 2 months ago

Just when the federal government is beginning to tackle immigration issues in a positive way, Kansas is again considering a backwards step. Better to allow these 600 a chance to improve their chances for education and legal employment Cheaper to do that than pay to house them in jail or keep them unemployed. It is not as though it doesn't come with strings attached. Why punish the kids for their family's mistakes? The students in this program work hard and will positively influence others in their situation. It just amazes me that this administration and its bought and paid members in the legislature can only bring up old bills(strip clubs) that have been rejected. Guess it is true that nothing ever really dies in the statehouse, certainly nothing that is detrimental to the growth of Kansas.

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Clara Westphal 1 year, 2 months ago

If Kansas continues to let illegal students attend for in-state tuition then other out-of-state students who are citizens should be able to pay in-state tuition as well.

There is a federal law that states no foreigner shall be given privileges that are not also given to citizens of the country. Just like other laws, it is not enforced.

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jesse499 1 year, 2 months ago

Just keep giving them everything for breaking the law they already get more then the people that are born here now.

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seriouscat 1 year, 2 months ago

Bring em in to work for CHEAP! Just don't educate them...we want them to be SHEEP!

http://cjonline.com/news/2012-01-28/agriculture-interests-stir-immigration-policy

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Tracy Rogers 1 year, 2 months ago

Exactly. Something that affects a whopping 600 people should take top priority over something stupid like say our state budget. Here's betting they go past the 90 days again.

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JackMcKee 1 year, 2 months ago

Good thing these guys and gals are tackling all these incredibly pressing issues.

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Thinking_Out_Loud 1 year, 2 months ago

Repealing this law would be a mistake. Making post-secondary education available can help undocumented students raise themselves out of poverty. Reducing poverty is a good thing. Repealing the law does not send undocumented students home; instead, it forces them into accepting low-level, low-paying, low-potential employment that perpetuates the cycle they are in. This is one of the few far-sighted laws that makes for a lousy sound-bite, but is a very good public policy.

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